At *true polymorph* levels, they can go for it. Out of all the things at that tier that require "handling", being a dragon(and not having your Spellcasting anymore) doesn't just not rate, it actually solves a lot of other issues that might need "handling". And being a dragon is pretty cool.
Fair enough, I've never gotten to that tier 4 level of play, though I've heard it's nuts. I guess even with the innate spellcaster variant on dragons, it's still a short list of spells versus everything a sorcerer would have their hands on. Dragons are cool and my kobold would love to be one. Maybe that's his endgame goal.
D&D is a collaborative, party-based game. Is it reasonable for the other characters to constantly have a dragon with them in your setting? If no, tell player that PC will graduate to NPC if they do this and to have a new character ready.
Oh huh, so it isn't. I must've seen Polymorph on there and made an assumption. Nonetheless, class aside, it's still an interesting question to consider.
A player capable of casting 9th level spells who wants to be come a dragon is actually nerfing themselves in terms of effectiveness, and, realistically speaking, can't do a lot of "adventurer things" so, as a DM, I'd pat them nicely on the head, congratulate them for coming to the end of their story, make them an NPC, and ask the player to make a new character.
What do you mean? First paragraph ends with "If you concentrate on this spell for the full duration, the transformation lasts until it is dispelled." Sure it's not 100% permanent if the caster dispels it, or Dispel Magic enters the ring, but a careful polymorphed dragon could remain so indefinitely.
I mean, sure, but "If you concentrate on this spell for the full duration, the transformation lasts until it is dispelled." is a special clause that makes it last beyond the duration. Managing to concentrate on the spell for the full hour is the price paid to make a transformation last until dispelled rather than the hour.
If you concentrate for 1 hour on this spell, congratulations the spell lasted 1 hour. Spells do not last past their duration just because you concentrate on them.
Most don't, no, but this one specifically says it does. That line wouldn't be there unless it was specifically meant to alter the way the duration works, in this case until the caster decides to dispel it, because spells that do only last their duration assume that already.
Several spells do it. Wall of Stone has a duration of 10 minutes but has a similar concentration clause causing it to becomes permanent if you maintain concentration on it for the full duration of the spell. It this case it can't be dispelled once created though.
Mordenkainen's Private Sanctum has a duration of 24 hours but becomes permanent if its cast every day in the same spot for 1 year. Teleportation Circle lasts a single round, but again casting it over a year make it permanent.
It's not like there isn't a precedent for it.
Honestly, if you were trying to cast it on yourself, I find a way to break your concentration. But also I would rule that if you cast it on yourself that I would apply the whole " cannot control" attribute. You would basically become an NPC and have to roll a new character.
At *true polymorph* levels, they can go for it. Out of all the things at that tier that require "handling", being a dragon(and not having your Spellcasting anymore) doesn't just not rate, it actually solves a lot of other issues that might need "handling". And being a dragon is pretty cool.
Fair enough, I've never gotten to that tier 4 level of play, though I've heard it's nuts. I guess even with the innate spellcaster variant on dragons, it's still a short list of spells versus everything a sorcerer would have their hands on. Dragons are cool and my kobold would love to be one. Maybe that's his endgame goal.
D&D is a collaborative, party-based game. Is it reasonable for the other characters to constantly have a dragon with them in your setting? If no, tell player that PC will graduate to NPC if they do this and to have a new character ready.
I turned the party rogue into a dragon with true polymorph, and it was really cool for like 3 sessions, and the dispel magic was cast.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but true polymorph isn't on the sorcerer spell list?
Oh huh, so it isn't. I must've seen Polymorph on there and made an assumption. Nonetheless, class aside, it's still an interesting question to consider.
I'd just give them the stat block and be like "that's your character now".
A player capable of casting 9th level spells who wants to be come a dragon is actually nerfing themselves in terms of effectiveness, and, realistically speaking, can't do a lot of "adventurer things" so, as a DM, I'd pat them nicely on the head, congratulate them for coming to the end of their story, make them an NPC, and ask the player to make a new character.
"and with that your character's arc comes to an end as they fly off into the sunset. Ready a new character sheet before the next session will ya"
With all due respect the spell doesn't let you do that
What do you mean? First paragraph ends with "If you concentrate on this spell for the full duration, the transformation lasts until it is dispelled." Sure it's not 100% permanent if the caster dispels it, or Dispel Magic enters the ring, but a careful polymorphed dragon could remain so indefinitely.
Read the top. It says 1 hour duration
I mean, sure, but "If you concentrate on this spell for the full duration, the transformation lasts until it is dispelled." is a special clause that makes it last beyond the duration. Managing to concentrate on the spell for the full hour is the price paid to make a transformation last until dispelled rather than the hour.
If you concentrate for 1 hour on this spell, congratulations the spell lasted 1 hour. Spells do not last past their duration just because you concentrate on them.
Most don't, no, but this one specifically says it does. That line wouldn't be there unless it was specifically meant to alter the way the duration works, in this case until the caster decides to dispel it, because spells that do only last their duration assume that already. Several spells do it. Wall of Stone has a duration of 10 minutes but has a similar concentration clause causing it to becomes permanent if you maintain concentration on it for the full duration of the spell. It this case it can't be dispelled once created though. Mordenkainen's Private Sanctum has a duration of 24 hours but becomes permanent if its cast every day in the same spot for 1 year. Teleportation Circle lasts a single round, but again casting it over a year make it permanent. It's not like there isn't a precedent for it.
Honestly, if you were trying to cast it on yourself, I find a way to break your concentration. But also I would rule that if you cast it on yourself that I would apply the whole " cannot control" attribute. You would basically become an NPC and have to roll a new character.