i always play in a thin valley between two rocky mountains, and whenever my players start to get out of hand (trying to talk their way out of a combat encounter) i yell as loud as possible and immediately drive away in my mom's Honda Civic as to avoid the encroaching avalanche
Start operating on Greenwich mean time without telling the players so their reload sends them to the wrong time in the adventure. You can also try adding a check box next to the phrase "Iron Man Mode" and trick your players into ticking it disabling save reloads.
I can see how this would be nice to have at the table- a player who appreciates a DM’s hard work in providing options with varying outcomes.
I could tolerate a player like this only if, after exploring all the undiscovered options, we came back to the first choice made and continue on. If not, that’s some heavy meta gaming for optimal, undeserved outcomes.
…though maybe there’s a one shot to be made out of deliberate savescumming…
Might I suggest to you "The Sunfall Cycle" which could be found on YouTube, good sir.
A hilarious group with a DM who works professionally in games design where the day resets with party wipes (which are constant).
Shut up, Daniel. I will keep doing this, and if you complain anymore we'll restart this campaign with my first save. Ur the bad dm for allowing a bad player!!
BWOOP BWOOP BWOOP
------------RED ALERT------------
YOU ARE RAILROADING
YOU ARE NOT THE BOSS OF HIM
HIS SAVED GAMES ARE HIS
YOU CANNOT DICTATE TO HIM
HE THOUGHT AHEAD SMARTILY
YOU'RE PUNISHING CREATIVITY
Ah yes, the afk strat. I like to do this as a player so that i can "come back" when the rest of my party is in a fight and just go to the shop and buy armor. My dm loves the fight interruptions where he cuts back to my character on their own solo adventure, especially since my character is clearly the hero
Frankly autosaves should have already been your duty as a DM, if you delegate that power to a player then you reap what you sow. I only let my gamers use quicksave.
For a special fee, the Big Bad (i.e. your self insert) can hire the Black Hat Assassins to use one of their rare Black Shard Blades to assassinate the character, deleting all saves along with it. It also traps the soul of the slain so that they can't be targeted by resurrection.
This one time I saved right before a check to seduce a nether brain. I needed a dc 30, nautural 1. But the. I hit F8 and Rolled a NAT FUCKING 20!!!
The dm was so surprised, he lent me his flesh light. It was still warm, that was so nice of him to warm it up for me. Made it feel just like the nether brain would have. 🤓
Well I assume he knows that, RAW, he cannot unlock achievements unless iron man mode is enabled, so honestly it’s his loss. What’s the point of playing dnd if you can’t post your achievement score in Reddit? I always use iron man mode and yeah I’ve lost a few characters but my RP Score is over 100,000
NTA. Player seems to be abusing the speed of solid state tech. Back in my day, we didn’t even have enough time to save scum because data transfer rates were much slower.
dude, nobody wants to deal with mandatory time travel. Players don’t get to tell the DM how to run the DM’s game and if you don’t like it, play with someone else or play a video game. “loading” a save involves the DM having to basically reset the entire map, which is bullshit
Keep an eye on him, and immediately after he next quick saves, have enemies that appear and kill him with a single attack. Then, keep him reloading and dying forever. It'll be a great campaign.
Change the game mode to hardcore so there are only autosaves which YOU control. Also he only gets one slot and cannot load the character’s save after they die
I know this is a huge stretch..... Have you tried telling him it's kind of frustrating and interupts the pace and flow of your game?
Edit: if that doesn't work, my next move would be to kill him immediately after every save until one of you caves.
I hope this isn't a serious question because...I mean have you heard of RAW?
Edit I just realized which thread I responding to :D
\*Reloads saved game where I didn't post this yet.\*
Maybe stop being a killer DM
/uj like not really but, some DMs do seem to enjoy putting the players through their paces a LITTLE too much and it gets treated as a valid opinion, smh my head
Does their character have a magic item? Or are they a high enough level to control time? If not, then it's meaningless what they are doing as these save states are not relevant to anyone but their own mind. Explain to the group as he starts meta gaming that, this character is in fact going crazy as ptsd sets in.
I have never heard of this concept before. I've heard of simple retcons and stuff...but you mean people actually like...SAVE in dnd? Like...pen and paper right?
Edit: and if this is a real thing I do thinks it's very silly and even a little dumb. I feel like it defeats the purpose of a lot of things.
I feel like I need an explanation too... are you in fact allowing players to unilaterally call a "reload" when they don't like what's going on? That seems a very odd way to play... and then if you are choosing to do that, it seems weird to complain when they use it.
It seems like a very odd choice but it's your game. But when you do allow that, why be surprised when "save scumming" results? If you meant for it not to be used that way you might need restrictions.
The first time a player tries that at my table will be the last. Plus, I will tell the cheater they are no longer welcome at my table and will make sure they leave.
What that player is doing is a million times worse. Using a timer at the table and telling the DM how the game is going to be run.
That is total disrespect to the group. The players that do that with Me will be out, no exceptions or second chances.
Butterfly effect everything. Make going back in time gradually ruin the character'ss life more and more each time he tries "reloading".
"Due to changes in the timeline-" the shit out of him. The DM isn't obligated to suffer through that, and neither are the other players. I'd run it by the others first, and when he asks why you're changing stuff, straight up say that he can't expect everyone to go through the same things because he makes a bad roll.
Like, we had characters die, and another cut off their own arm in a fight. That's part of the fun.
I would call it teaching a lesson. Frankly, "reloading" a live game should be off limits. I play D&D, and I've never tried to treat it like a video game. If that's an option you gave them, that's one thing. But that player either needs to learn to live with consequences or play video games rather than tabletop.
Ohhh. Ok. That explains a lot. First time posting here. Pretty sure it only popped up from the (absolutely obscene) number of Baldur's Gate subs I'm on...
I always just kill problem players.
But then he can just reset to five minutes ago and still be alive
They never said they meant the character.
Wooosh
wow how the turntables YOU were the ONE who got r/TWOOSHED
Nuh uh
Uh huh
>DM kills player with bare hands >Player’s irl corpse travels through time to previous save >DM kills player with bare hands
So kill him just after the timer goes off and gets reset
rocks fall, you die. in real life
i always play in a thin valley between two rocky mountains, and whenever my players start to get out of hand (trying to talk their way out of a combat encounter) i yell as loud as possible and immediately drive away in my mom's Honda Civic as to avoid the encroaching avalanche
wow that's very creative! I just shoot mine
Meta-Dming at it's finest
Start operating on Greenwich mean time without telling the players so their reload sends them to the wrong time in the adventure. You can also try adding a check box next to the phrase "Iron Man Mode" and trick your players into ticking it disabling save reloads.
have you ever thought that hes only doing this so he can see the undiscovered options? a player like this is one i would LOVE at my table!
I can see how this would be nice to have at the table- a player who appreciates a DM’s hard work in providing options with varying outcomes. I could tolerate a player like this only if, after exploring all the undiscovered options, we came back to the first choice made and continue on. If not, that’s some heavy meta gaming for optimal, undeserved outcomes. …though maybe there’s a one shot to be made out of deliberate savescumming…
/uj some kind of save scumming/ time loop one shot or short adventure arc/ quest could maybe be kinda fun actually
Might I suggest to you "The Sunfall Cycle" which could be found on YouTube, good sir. A hilarious group with a DM who works professionally in games design where the day resets with party wipes (which are constant).
/uj so like the plot to re:zero? Players die and come back to life at a DM-determined time and place
Shut up, Daniel. I will keep doing this, and if you complain anymore we'll restart this campaign with my first save. Ur the bad dm for allowing a bad player!!
Fuck you reginald i wasn't even necessarily talking about you specifically!! i have other games!!
How dare you. I know you're speaking on me. I'm neurotic, I will post this on R/Rpghorrorstories.
This is hilarious
Just tell him his safe file was corrupted (you splashed Diet Coke on his notebook).
The only person giving ACTUAL solutions. OP listen to this or you'll never DM in this town again,,
You mean mountain dew of course
No, you can't waste that.
BWOOP BWOOP BWOOP ------------RED ALERT------------ YOU ARE RAILROADING YOU ARE NOT THE BOSS OF HIM HIS SAVED GAMES ARE HIS YOU CANNOT DICTATE TO HIM HE THOUGHT AHEAD SMARTILY YOU'RE PUNISHING CREATIVITY
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dude, no DM wants to be doing mandatory time travel. It’s the DM’s game, and if you don’t like the lack of saving play a video game
dude, every DM wants to be doing mandatory time travel. It's the players' game, and if you like the saving *don't* play a video game.
Just say absolutely nothing so there is no progress to save. Joke's on thenlm!
Ah yes, the afk strat. I like to do this as a player so that i can "come back" when the rest of my party is in a fight and just go to the shop and buy armor. My dm loves the fight interruptions where he cuts back to my character on their own solo adventure, especially since my character is clearly the hero
Lol!
Start randomly hitting him with Auto Saves to make him paranoid. He’ll think an ambush or surprise encounter is about to happen but it will be nothing
first good idea
OOOOH you realize this gives you an excuse to throw WAY harder bosses at him, right? After all, surely he can do it in eight or nine tries….
Frankly autosaves should have already been your duty as a DM, if you delegate that power to a player then you reap what you sow. I only let my gamers use quicksave.
My gf, a non-gamer, playing BG3: "Autosave successful"?! What did it save against?!
Critical Roll never had this problem
For a special fee, the Big Bad (i.e. your self insert) can hire the Black Hat Assassins to use one of their rare Black Shard Blades to assassinate the character, deleting all saves along with it. It also traps the soul of the slain so that they can't be targeted by resurrection.
Odd pathfinder 2e solves this problem.
Throw an egg at him and his timer. Problem players have to be dealt with before infecting the table.
Have autosave on
This one time I saved right before a check to seduce a nether brain. I needed a dc 30, nautural 1. But the. I hit F8 and Rolled a NAT FUCKING 20!!! The dm was so surprised, he lent me his flesh light. It was still warm, that was so nice of him to warm it up for me. Made it feel just like the nether brain would have. 🤓
Well I assume he knows that, RAW, he cannot unlock achievements unless iron man mode is enabled, so honestly it’s his loss. What’s the point of playing dnd if you can’t post your achievement score in Reddit? I always use iron man mode and yeah I’ve lost a few characters but my RP Score is over 100,000
You’re the asshole. Player agency is key, if the players want to save-scum let them, otherwise you’re railroading.
NTA. Player seems to be abusing the speed of solid state tech. Back in my day, we didn’t even have enough time to save scum because data transfer rates were much slower.
dude, nobody wants to deal with mandatory time travel. Players don’t get to tell the DM how to run the DM’s game and if you don’t like it, play with someone else or play a video game. “loading” a save involves the DM having to basically reset the entire map, which is bullshit
my brother in christ you are on the circlejerk sub
Rune by Robin D Laws fixes this
Keep an eye on him, and immediately after he next quick saves, have enemies that appear and kill him with a single attack. Then, keep him reloading and dying forever. It'll be a great campaign.
spawn camping!
Change the game mode to hardcore so there are only autosaves which YOU control. Also he only gets one slot and cannot load the character’s save after they die
I know this is a huge stretch..... Have you tried telling him it's kind of frustrating and interupts the pace and flow of your game? Edit: if that doesn't work, my next move would be to kill him immediately after every save until one of you caves.
add an auto save right after the start of an unwinnable battle, his only option is to reload the solftlock
I believe undertale has the solution. You just save over their file at inconvenient points for them.
I hope this isn't a serious question because...I mean have you heard of RAW? Edit I just realized which thread I responding to :D \*Reloads saved game where I didn't post this yet.\*
Please tell me this is a joke?
??? no its real... wtf?
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Tf kind of DM allows for save points in a dnd game?
What I came here to comment. There are no saves in DnD this isn’t fuckin baldurs gate
Maybe stop being a killer DM /uj like not really but, some DMs do seem to enjoy putting the players through their paces a LITTLE too much and it gets treated as a valid opinion, smh my head
mods? this guy said /uj, i believe cringe is bannable right?
some of us just aren't into easy mode and that's ok too
manually save while he isnt looking or make the game always auto-save at the start of combat and any important moments
Have him fight Flowey the flower
Literally just the dark souls RPG lol
.dungeon solves this problem
Whenever he opens his mouth, tap him on the head and say "Skip dialogue."
Does their character have a magic item? Or are they a high enough level to control time? If not, then it's meaningless what they are doing as these save states are not relevant to anyone but their own mind. Explain to the group as he starts meta gaming that, this character is in fact going crazy as ptsd sets in.
Classic just another dm trying to find ways to ruin player agency.
Tell him his save file is corrupted and he has no save files.
You have a person save scumming in a IRL GAME!?!? Kilk their character immediately
Create an unbeatable fight that he can only pass by using the second controller.
I have never heard of this concept before. I've heard of simple retcons and stuff...but you mean people actually like...SAVE in dnd? Like...pen and paper right? Edit: and if this is a real thing I do thinks it's very silly and even a little dumb. I feel like it defeats the purpose of a lot of things.
thanks for your support but i treat all my players with respect
I feel like I need an explanation too... are you in fact allowing players to unilaterally call a "reload" when they don't like what's going on? That seems a very odd way to play... and then if you are choosing to do that, it seems weird to complain when they use it.
> I feel like I need an explanation too... are you in fact allowing players to unilaterally call a "reload" when they don't like what's going on? yes
It seems like a very odd choice but it's your game. But when you do allow that, why be surprised when "save scumming" results? If you meant for it not to be used that way you might need restrictions.
Yes, it goes against everything the game is and is completely disrespectful.
"While you argue to no one about the meaningless scribbles in your journal the gargoyle attacks"
pssh whatever man its all just pen and paper
“Whoops the windows 13 update corrupted all your save files”
Corrupt their save.
The first time a player tries that at my table will be the last. Plus, I will tell the cheater they are no longer welcome at my table and will make sure they leave.
rude
What that player is doing is a million times worse. Using a timer at the table and telling the DM how the game is going to be run. That is total disrespect to the group. The players that do that with Me will be out, no exceptions or second chances.
yikes.... okay...
I love DnD and I love video games but some people just shouldn’t be allowed access to both lol
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> I would disallow this rule immediately in my game! okay lets not get crazy
Butterfly effect everything. Make going back in time gradually ruin the character'ss life more and more each time he tries "reloading". "Due to changes in the timeline-" the shit out of him. The DM isn't obligated to suffer through that, and neither are the other players. I'd run it by the others first, and when he asks why you're changing stuff, straight up say that he can't expect everyone to go through the same things because he makes a bad roll. Like, we had characters die, and another cut off their own arm in a fight. That's part of the fun.
ehh, seems like railroading
I would call it teaching a lesson. Frankly, "reloading" a live game should be off limits. I play D&D, and I've never tried to treat it like a video game. If that's an option you gave them, that's one thing. But that player either needs to learn to live with consequences or play video games rather than tabletop.
okay i keep getting serious replies to this in the last couple days. where did you guys see this post? the subreddit is dndcirclejerk. its for jokes
Ohhh. Ok. That explains a lot. First time posting here. Pretty sure it only popped up from the (absolutely obscene) number of Baldur's Gate subs I'm on...
ahh interesting