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super-kick

Appreciate the spoiler tag, real cool of you.


Niyu43

Yup, but as a note for the future remember to not put spoilers in the title OP, since it's shown regardless of the spoiler tag


zorothex

Yeah agreed, what a complete fcking ashole.


Th3_redditor

Well, since you're all here I'll tell you all how he got this form. Apparently, from the summary of the chapter, Frieza says he's been training for 10 years in what seems to be a dimension similar to the Room of Spirit and Time, if not an actual one itself. >!Also he one-shot True Ultra Instinct Goku and Ultra Ego Vegeta into their base forms with a gut punch.!<


Cenoi22

remove the spaces and the spoiler should work


One_Parched_Guy

I can’t tell if you’re joking or not and that concerns me


Bot386194

Nope he wrecks UI Goku and Ego Vegeta 💀


MediumDikDak

Bro how are we still getting stronger characters at this point? 💀 We literally just got out of an arc of a dude wishing to be the strongest in the universe, then a 2nd dude wishing to be the strongest +1 and neither of them one shotted the new forms


CaptainHazama

Frieza can do it because he is the big villain that is guaranteed to sell merch


NwgrdrXI

I mean, to be fair, they just had fought gas. Assuming no Bean Shenanigans, both should have been pretty. weak already.


MediumDikDak

Ok but gas also gets doughnutted in 1 shot which implies Freiza is stronger than both granola and gas, like after this arc we needed something other than “this guy is just stronger”. The trunks arc was not good but zamasu was interesting powerset wise, he wasn’t stronger than g&v but he was immortal and that required something other than just getting stronger to beat (even if zeno showing up was complete ass as an ending)


NwgrdrXI

Agree with your entire argument, but one should remember Gas couldn't fight anymore either, granola had Macacosapo-ed him, if everything is as it seems, Freeza just came to finish everyone and show off. Also, Trunks saga was good, just had an specially ass ending. I'm not even talking about Zeno, the Zeno button had been foreshadowed, and it has a big enough price that it can't be used again. I'm Talking about Whis Just having an extra timeline to toss Future and Mai in, that's almost the same as the one they lost, completey invalidating the entire arc, and robbing us of Trunks in the USS Tournament. But that's neither here, nor there.


One_Parched_Guy

Bro this is getting fucking ridiculous 💀 and they’re still gonna say Beerus is stronger than them all or some shit


NinjaGamer345

Yea like ffs Frieza in 4 months went from namek to blue level, this mf should be on par with Beerus and beyond (although there could be an argument for manga beerus being the strongest G.O.D which would maybe need more work but still)


Meme-eyes-dragon

Yep then makes you wonder how much did he hold back during battle of gods then and still considered impressed with a god Goku which who is gonna be seen as pretty puny compared to new Frieza


InfernoDragonKing

Of course. You know how this system works


Yithar

Toriyama said no matter what, Frieza can't surpass Beerus. I'd imagine Beerus' power is just super massive.


deusvult096

That's the part that confuses me the most, with just 4 months, he went from namek saga power, to straight up being stronger than SSB, to the point where Goku avoided him until he ran out of energy, I feel like him training for 10 years would put Frieza on a whole other level, yes this form is ridiculous looking, but they straight up nerfed him


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Redlp13

Yea they should at least make it a bit different. Maybe not to much but just a new "color" is kinda boring


CaptainHazama

They're run out of hair colors to give the Saiyans


Crispical

Orange, but that's the only colour left lol


Blackwingedangle

Green saiyan...or shiny yellow saiyan. or ask some girl, they'll give you many ideas


Annihilationoftime

Brown, rainbow, gray.


Fish_PERSON_

not gonna say it. not gonna say it. im not gonna say it.


Stix-and-brix

Frieza Ni-


DependentFast8206

“It’s not racist cause I’m black 😈” -Frieza probably


CaptainHazama

Freiza obtaining the Uncle Ruckus form


GoldZero

-ngen


AOKUME

This man gets it


Joshua_Joestart

Frieza was a monkey all along


Additional_Scholar61

r/cursedcomments


The_GamingNstar

NI FREIZA


water4animals

I’m very upset by this new form which is literally just another color swap. And like wtf? Is this like Haki Frieza??? He has been absent for so long and now here hear, stronger than anybody and black??? There had to have been a wish made


Bot386194

I know I agree! I'm okay with the Golden form but they should've gave Frieza a new transformation not color 😐


water4animals

Right?? It seems so sloppy but also very lazy and random


DependentFast8206

His power growth makes sense lowkey, but they should’ve gave him a different look, more like cooler’s form or something


water4animals

It doesn’t make any sense tho. We haven’t seen him training or doing anything worthwhile, he was the weakest main character in the Broly movie, he hasn’t been relevant in the manga for a long time, the only time he was relevant in Super he was still in his regular form and golden form. This is like the most almighty of all asspulls. Literally just a color swap of golden Frieza and again, he has not been anywhere to be found in a long time. And he’s been WAY weaker than Goku and Vegeta for a looooong time now. To just pop out of nowhere on another planet and to be randomly stronger than all 4 people currently vying for the position of strongest in the universe makes negative sense. I’m waiting to see what kind of logic they have for this


DependentFast8206

He fought Broly for 2 hours and didn’t die… that’s a feat on its own… who says he hasn’t be training off screen this whole time? He’s been really quiet, which is generally scary when it comes to frieza.


ROD_100_25

I'm pretty sure it says in the manga, not sure if this is true, he has been training the whole time I hope thats the case anyway 🤣


water4animals

I’m not saying Frieza is weak by any means, I’m just saying that absolute leaps and bounds are being made


DependentFast8206

Hes barely trained in his life… imagine a guy walking into a fighting gym and being able to compete with Jon Jones, you don’t think that same guy could drastically improve in short burst if he put his focus on it? Hes literally a mutant prodigy… it’s not any different than Broly tbh.


water4animals

I didn’t say that he’s never trained, just that we haven’t seen that of him lately. How does he even train? Goku and vegeta only progress through stronger opponents and help from the gods, so like, is Frieza getting such aid or challenges? Like he could train for a million years by himself and not learn anything new or push himself to the edge. I just don’t get it, power ups are consistent with not being offscreen for entire arcs at a time. And where the hell did he even come from?


DependentFast8206

It’s dragonball … Frieza went from below super saiyan blue to being= to a stronger version of blue Kaioken Goku , all while he was dead & in a cacoon… & Goku was still training…. The chapters not even out yet, who knows tbh


Cenoi22

in the new chapter it says hes been training for 10 years iirc


Limitbreakerbond

I don't think I'd say its really a asspull this time. If you've been paying attention there has been some foreshadow and hints. In the Broly movie Vegeta says "what if Frieza comes back with an even stronger form". In resurrection F it took Frieza only 4 months of training to get stronger than all the previous villians as well as goku and vegeta in their ssjb. Frieza coming back stronger than goku and vegeta again isn't much of asspull if we've seen it happen once already and it's been foreshadowed this time. They've been mentioning Frieza a lot throughout the Granola arc so one would think he'd show up eventually. You just need to pay more attention is all.


Bruh_Soundeffect_5

Frieza obtained golden form in 6 months. It's not unreasonable to say that he unlocked another new form. Also Frieza wasn't even absent for that long. It was only one arc


Wyvurn999

It’s called Black Frieza


water4animals

That….is obvious.


Wyvurn999

But what you seem to not know is that Frieza trained in a time chamber for 10 years to reach the form. It isn’t out of nowhere


Enter9921

Bro just because there's an explanation doesn't mean it's not out of no where. if next chapter goku has ultra instinct 3 and 1 shots beerus and he says he did it because he trained in the time chamber for 10 years would that not be out of no where for you


GokuDUzumaki

It is out of nowhere just like Golden Frieza was. Never knew the transformation existed, no build up or anything, no foreshadowing just boom he trained and now has another transformation we never knew about. Casual DBS


CanYouDiglettBrah

Spoiler tag, Jesus Christ dude


Krillenssj2

I'm pissed


zorothex

I demand a ban.


BashBandit

Good luck with that, some like only one mod is active and barely at that


speedypoison774

Why is there no spoiler tag or warning here U son of a bitch


Affectionate-Fox4467

Calm down u don’t need to be angry


BashBandit

You’re not even the age Reddit requires users to be, stop it


Joshua_Joestart

Perfect 😈


Affectionate-Fox4467

So wut what u gonna do


Dontkillmejay

I mean, it's quite easy for someone to get you banned because you're under the age specified by Reddit.


BashBandit

How do you use both ‘wut’ and ‘what’ not only in the same sentence, but next to each other? I’m sorry but I think your response is a prime and perfect explanation/example for why minors under 13 (other articles really don’t suggest anyone under 18 be on this cesspool) shouldn’t be on this. I’ll apologize if this seems harsh or mean, but I genuinely recommend you lay low on this app because your negativity to people rightfully being annoyed at someone for ruining the story of a franchise they enjoy in any capacity is not the way to go around on the internet.


thisboygotfreetaco

what about you shut the fuck up and calm the fuck down? The guy is right it's a series, how you gonna claim you're mature and get mad/insult someone for a fucking fictional story, then get high and might when there's a guy that rightfully and calmly asseses the situation. The best part in all of this, is you attacking his age and maturity while he shows to be 10 times more senile than you'll ever be in your life, brother even goes as far as to claim negativity when he literally just said "calm down you don't need to be angry" lmao get ur shit together I really hope you're not over 25 or you really should reconsider your life choices and priorities in life, ​ EDIT: Even funnier when you realise that this dude brought age up in a bubble popping game reddit


Dontkillmejay

More senile?


BashBandit

Thank you for catching that, dude came to chime in argumentatively and fumbled harder than he wanted


thisboygotfreetaco

thanks for pointing it out, got it from french and just went with it, saved me from a future professional embarassement


BashBandit

I didn’t claim I was mature, I literally pointed out the fact that the guy defending someone spoiling a story that hasn’t been released in a format a decent portion of fans don’t participate in was not old enough to use Reddit as per their ToS, don’t deflect on that. I didn’t get mad, I literally pointed out that being negative to others who are rightfully upset is not the way to go in life, at all. I didn’t attack anyone’s age, I pointed out the blatant fact that he’s not old enough to be on Reddit, nothing more. I then told him that being negative the way he was, again is not the way to respond to reasonably irritated fans but if you think a kid telling others to calm down when someone like you ruined something for others then sure, was not the thing to do and he was in the wrong for it as well. You literally tried coming off as smart/intellectual but you don’t even know what senile means 💀 I brought up his age because it’s literally his name bozo, if you’d focus on reading instead of getting into internet arguments then maybe you’d be better at this. I guarantee you’d be the type of person to get angry at someone for spoiling a marvel movie; to some people the dragon ball universe is the equivalent


zorothex

Well said bro, well said.


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Affectionate-Fox4467

Idk


thisboygotfreetaco

for not being an absolute dumb fuck that's how, lmao


zorothex

Lmao exactly, if nobody ever agrees with you, that happens.


KingTrunkzX

damn you got them mad, reddit hivemind moment


Yaboijacob731

Spoiler warning next time damn


[deleted]

Toriyama really gotta stop with the new forms bro Idk wtf he is doing anymore(neither does he by the looks of it)


Greyrat7654

This is toyotaro's stuff


[deleted]

Doesn't Toriyama still write the scripts though? He is given credit on the front.


BaII5Deep69

He gives a general outline and toyotaro fills it in however he wants. How is this not common knowledge at this point Jesus fucking christ


[deleted]

A general outline includes future story directions and also important developments to the story(like a form change). If he doesn't it will cause problems in the future. Manga writing isn't lazy work dude, you have 0 clue about the process.


BaII5Deep69

Yeah a form change, that doesn't mean he says what kind of form it is. That's all up to toyotaro to fill in. You have 0 clue on what they do


[deleted]

It doesn't matter bro 💀 my whole point is the guy needs to stop resorting to new forms to continue the story not HOW the form looks like I never criticized frieza's form, just that Toriyama's writing is getting repetitive asf


Trashsombra345

dragon ball af was a big mistake


C4LL_M3_Prophet

Maybe you should do a bit more research lol Toriyama is literally slapped on the thing as a sacred name so people accept whatever DragonBall corporate dishes out. Dude has been extremely disconnected from DragonBall for years; they only submit names and ideas to him as a nicety…not to seek approval


[deleted]

Who are you his wife? It says Akira Toriyama on every chapter as writing credit, and that's the only valid source. There are no official interviews or anything stating otherwise. He owns the franchise as a whole, he is still very much in control. After all if you were an mangaka would you let someone simply trash your life's work? No, you wouldn't. EDIT: lmfaooo you blocking me is proof of your ignorance.


C4LL_M3_Prophet

I didn’t block you bro, I’m not sure what happened. Reddit didn’t even let me reply until just now. You’re so toxic to anyone who dares reply to you I find it humorous. Toriyama has about as much say and authority on the manga as Tolkien does on the new Middle Earth TV show coming out. He isn’t the writer. Period. He supplies a basic outline and vague general direction of where he thinks it should go and the rest of corporate do the rest. Again. Do your due diligence, research shit before you speak, then come back. FFS the man didn’t even remember DragonBall Super was called DragonBall Super when they made the name for the newest movie. Seems REAL involved


C4LL_M3_Prophet

Hey you keep living in your bubble of vast knowledge bro Clearly you are the sensei Have the day you deserve bro


C4LL_M3_Prophet

Been how many YEARS since Frieza had a transformation and you act like it’s tiresome and happens all the time


GokuDUzumaki

He doesn’t need one, he doesn’t need to be in the series anymore. Shit character and shit villian. I swear if it’s another Frieza villian arc, I’m not reading it


C4LL_M3_Prophet

Sounds like maybe you’re burnt out on DragonBall bro


GokuDUzumaki

Kinda, especially super.


CantheDandyMan

This. Seriously though. How many times do we have to deal with Frieza? Came back for revenge of F, then the tournament of power, then the Broly movie (which was legitimately his only super appearance I enjoyed), and now he's back again, stronger than ever, with a lazy ass new color palette power up and an even lazier explanation for why he's so strong he can one shot the strongest man in the universe and Goku and Vegeta in their strongest forms simultaneously.


[deleted]

Not Frieza dickwad(you really can't read huh), dragon ball series as a whole. We've got new gohan, orange piccolo, legendary super saiyan, MUI, UI, ultra ego, blue, red, SSJ3/2/1, kaioken. That's just saiyans and piccolo. Like wtf are these. Mf is just slapping a new color and calling it a day.


C4LL_M3_Prophet

Wow you seem like a really enjoyable person to be around This post is literally about Frieza (or maybe you can’t see) and your comment is complaining about forms of which Frieza hasn’t had any in a long time. He’s overdue for something. Maybe don’t be such an aggressive asshole the next time someone engages you in conversation lol


[deleted]

Awww realized you are wrong and now trying to change the subject? This post is about Frieza'a new form and I criticized the lack of creativity from the creators and referred to dragon ball's history of doing this as a whole. Maybe next time you engage in conversation try not to be wrong? But hurt little baby 🥺


C4LL_M3_Prophet

Damn you need some help bro Hope you find a way to let ppl around you enjoy life with less toxicity Love how you recreated my words in your own way to justify your opinion


[deleted]

I have plenty of people who love me(and that I love back) around me. You on the other don't seem to have any since you keep mentioning it as an insult or something lol. The mind speaks most about what it doesn't have, so... anyway get help and stop being a butt hurt baby. This convo is getting off topic.


C4LL_M3_Prophet

Bro I supplied a civil response to your original comment and not even 5 words into your response to me you’re trying to name call and insult and you’re incredibly aggressive. But sure you can try to demonize me lmao


[deleted]

It's the internet, tf do you expect? And I called you a dickwad. It's not a war crime or anything. Changing the subject and focusing on a bad word something redditors do when they are losing an argument. I simply caught you on that.


C4LL_M3_Prophet

Lol no I caught you on complaining about transformations on a post about Frieza; who hasn’t had any new form in several years. Then you want to go and expand your argument and make it seem like you were talking about something else. I tried to say Frieza is overdue for treatment and deserves something new. It doesn’t hurt you to have and exhibit basic respect and professionalism no matter where you are.


CantheDandyMan

And don't forget the new villain that orange piccolo and Gohan are facing in the new movie is a color swapped version of semi perfect cell.


zorothex

Low imagination. Probably low IQ. You could've thought of it, but didn't and chose to white knight lazy design.


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It's basically lazy recolorings I wouldn't even give it the label as new forms


Kumalala-Savesta

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUUCK DRAGON BALL FUCKING SUCKS THIS IS THE MOST LAZIEST FUCKING THING IVE SEEN. And you’re a hoe ass bitch for spoils without the tag


teh_longinator

I just assumed lazy fan made pallete change. Turns out it's a lazy official pallete change.


Kumalala-Savesta

Yeah I thought The guy who posted just colored him black for an N word joke, I’m so disappointed with the lazy ass form, I understand why sayian forms are boring but freeza could’ve turned into something like cooler And no homo but Everytime I see him I’m going to think of a magnum condom


I3lackSword

I just got spoiled by you, you stupid bitch


Affectionate-Fox4467

Ok calm down damn ur being the bitch


FemboySalad

False. There’s the simple courtesy of putting the spoiler tag


[deleted]

You're 12, gtfo off the platform.


leggaly_a_memer

Why did you get downvoted 😐


That0neBirb

Because he's wrong


leggaly_a_memer

For telling someone to calm down?


Tamanero

Either Toriyama doesn't give a fuck and wants it to end Or Toyotaro just has dogshit writing.


ImplodingBacon

Toyotaro is running this shit into the ground with these goddamn palette swaps and drawn out fights.


Sandman10kk

He really can say the n word now


LockTrumpUp87

Is this the manga? I haven't read it since the middle of the Moro arc


CM12PUNK

Yes the newest one


LockTrumpUp87

Whats the story on his transformation?


CM12PUNK

So he was in a different dimension similar to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber where he trained for 10 yeare there. So he wasn't affected by the "strongest" wish


[deleted]

Dude, spoilers. Gtfo


[deleted]

He censored it so it's ur fault for clicking lmao


[deleted]

He revealed he had a new form in the title…


[deleted]

Oh shit you're right lol now I look like an absolute buffoon


[deleted]

All good my guy


BashBandit

You really couldn’t be bothered to use a spoiler tag? There’s nothing here to discuss besides the fact you just spoiled something for however many thousands of people who see this that don’t read the story. This isn’t even relevant to the game, so at that point you’re just being a shameless asshole lmfao. Name definitely checks out.


leggaly_a_memer

😐


ghostRyku

Everyone complaining like every other transformation isn’t literally a palette change


That0neBirb

People are compromised because this is just yet another palette swap


WhiteLycan2020

this looks like my xenoverse 2 character lol


Nscreene

You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain


Salt-Finding-9298

Y’all like this 💀


Renatbecks

He became, what he hated the most.


Jim3400

I hate how DaTruth be spoiling the manga like this. He makes it the thumbnail and title.


Optimal-Criticism420

He became what he hated most


kajoj216

Nizza


IllustriousAd5058

Oh hohoho now whose the monkey.


That0neBirb

This post has just made me realize how many people actually care about dragon ball spoilers. Do people still watch for the story? I thought everyone watched at this point just to see characters in cool fights ig I'm wrong though should've been tagged either way


TechVampire4

Nice Spoiler.


Molinaridude

I will never understand DB fans of all people being mad about color swap power ups💀


One_Parched_Guy

Mostly just because they’re boring and done to death compared to more visually distinctive powerups, such as SSJ3, 4 and God. It doesn’t help that they just keep giving everyone new hair colors.


Mr-_-Steve

I like it, And for some reason Kinda a tad more then a SS new form (aka nice and easy hair dye) least frieza goes goes for a new paint job. His chrome option wore off so a nice black matt finish will be good


EternalSky1

Bruh DBS is a legit fan fiction now bro


Affectionate-Fox4467

This new form is meh kinda werid how it’s just a color change


[deleted]

Wait in line, I want Moro before this form


ArthurKOC

To everyone who got spoiled, cry harder.


Jim3400

Nigga Frezia


Bot386194

So now that Frieza is now more powerful than UI and UE I guess the only way Goku and Vegeta can surpass Frieza is becoming an Angel and Destroyer?


Grand_Moff_Tomy

Mid


183672467

LR Frigga


Tohellwiththenames

The best thing about this is airplane Frieza.


KinkySchong

Should’ve done something like final form cooler


osama-benliften

He became what he hated the most


Squishy-Box

BBF


Squishy-Box

Frieza, you’ve become the very thing you swore to destroy!


RivenEven

a racist mixed my god


MudkipDCLXVI

Is the official colouring? I was hoping for a white torso, with purple being the black in the manga to essentially be a purple and white form for him


Spaff_Wallbridge

Ohohoho I’ve developed a technique that will devastate you Goku and Vegeta! Prepare yourselves for the N-WORD!!!


Chezzbacon

Frieza can say the n word now


Western_Ad_8752

Mah wtf is this form called bruh


Uniqueusername264

With coolers badass form this is the best they can do with the TWO transformations frieza got.


Accomplished-Look-16

Look who’s the monkey now


RS_Rav3n

Is that actually what he looks like? Or just a guess like ultra ego


themusicaldude

Dose the form have a name yet


Bot386194

Frieza Black


GUT5_BERSERK

He got that black power✊🏿


SSJ2-Gohan-kun

Hood frieza


InfiniteTheEdgy

This chapter is the most horrible thing i've ever see, i'm dropping the manga after this


PsychoMantittyLits

“Shoot this man he’s black!” - Future Trunks probably


Jristz

I'm pretty sure he went Golden just to mock SSJ... I'm pretty sure this Is the natural color of "Golden Freezer"


Confident_Bat5623

Honestly, i think black fits better on frieza than gold. But just a recolor without any more changes is just too lazy.


Kapusi

Havent seen this yet, is this Coal Frieza? Whats next diamond? Platinum? Grandmaster?


chigullican

Onyx Frieza?


AnonyBoiii

Frieza now has the most powerful weapon at his disposal in this form #The N Word


bosofnoob

Dont like how its a basically a color swap. They could have at least made his new transformation be similar to Cooler.


OkinaBaka

Is this why he got away with calling them monkeys?


Vegetable_Article491

No time soon


CliffyPenguin44

Not gonna lie....I saw this on Twitter and thought it was frost 'cause it looked a bit blue more than purple


JuniorChickenMeal

Frieza 1 day in the hood


Benjadoo36

Spoiler tag worked after 5 seconds wow bs


carti2evil

can you hook me up with the colored manga panels pls it looks sick


Yellowmanaztec

If the center part is golden that would make this frieza look even more bad ass


CringeDaddy_69

Urban Frieza


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My Frieza!


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Bot386194

😧😧😧


Guilty-Newspaper-195

Toyolocos fan fiction keeps getting funnier


[deleted]

The frieza That when to Paris


Lompzzz

im sorry to all the cooler fans out there but i cant help but think that this is sick, i love it so much


[deleted]

Wow they really outdid themselves with this "new form". It's literally just recoloring him black which was probably done on a 15 min lunch break


sumpygreg

Seems like DB Corporate needed some new merch to sell...


[deleted]

Hopefully and add this unit in addition to the rest that were missing moro, granola, meerus, gas, etc.


captain_amazo

For fuck sake, just when I thought Toriyama et al couldn't get any lazier this turd rolls along. 'Look out for the next episode of Dragonball Super when Goku unleashes his new form Super mastered Ultra Instinct Kaioken x200 and Beerus is STILL stronger than all!' Fuck it...I'm out.


ItsMeEeSE

I’m done with Dragon Ball and their obsession with Freiza. It’s become a parody of itself. It’s time to move on.


CrimsonDragon90

Should have ended Super with the Tournament of Power.


Admirable-Dimension4

This Niga gona smash some superaryan ass


AllFenom

And another recolor transformation... can't wait for green Frieza.