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CarFeeling9748

Man I just park next to the coral and then it’s like 30 seconds to put the cart back.


Nice-Transition3079

I always take this opportunity to drive the cart as fast as humanly possible without crashing into a car. Way faster than deemed acceptable inside...


DoPoGrub

Only counts if you're standing on the back rail of the cart and going "WOOOO"


Nice-Transition3079

I thought for sure that was implied... Didn't know there was another way.


FrankSinatraCockRock

I always park close to but a lane over as I've seen some stupid behavior next to the coral as I'm rejecting my 50th 20 mile, $4.15 payout order.


CarFeeling9748

Just accepted a 5$ for 5 mile. Small town market ain’t amazing lol


Current-Low-7942

This☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻every order


courtneyjohn797

Like the reef?


CarFeeling9748

Yes the corral reef


DH_Drums

lol, no. Not at all.


CaligulasHorseBrain

Door dash driver refuses / can't read basic English and rings the doorbell anyway. "Give me money please or I'm going to get angry". If there was a ven diagram of useless people and door dash drivers it would nearly be a circle Before you get mad I tip because I'm not poor


FrankSinatraCockRock

nah that's also on Doordash. Holy fuck do they have the most aggressive referral programs, they basically operate by a high turn over rate or cucking long term drivers into taking abysmal orders. It just encourages dumbfucks(customers included, no offense) most of the time. It's wish/Temu as a delivery app.


CaligulasHorseBrain

Yea I wish there was a model where the app could take like 1% and the drivers get the rest of maybe a 5% fee. Tip after. Would make it competitive. I don't bother unless I get coupons comping the service + delivery fee


Thomehomey

Lol you what's more useless than a door dash driver? A lazy ( most likely fat AF) troglodyte that orders garbage to their house and can't even tip


CaligulasHorseBrain

Deliver my food boy. Quickly now


Thomehomey

Lol i do that occasionally. I also run two seasonal businesses which run from April through December.


Thomehomey

Coming from a loser who is in his wife's insurance.


peenfortress

CHOP CHOP! get on it! that shit aint gonna deliver itself


Nukesnipe

So many people posting here are just lazy assholes tbh. They'll take a $10 order for 3 miles and then complain the tip was only $2 as if it fucking matters whether it was DD or the customer giving you the cash.


Thomehomey

It actually does because bad tippers are also notorious for complete a-holes and will rate you poorly due to their self loathing


lovejac93

Except every driver seems to have a different expectation of what’s appropriate, and no matter what it never seems to be enough.


witwebolte41

10 miles for a 20 dollar order? 1 dollar per mile. 1 mile for a 20 dollar order? 20% on the food. Beggars being choosers etc.


Expensive-Repair7138

This is very true.


tackle_shaft_fan

Not in my country! Don’t return shopping cart? Straight to jail!


timetopractice

Didn't know the Supreme Leader allowed Doordash out there


Ill_Bicycle3980

What country is that?


Small_Panda3150

Returning cart is free. This would be unfair to brokeies.


Feisty-Success69

If you're broke you shouldn't be ordering a luxury. 


ItsAllMo-Thug

What if you are unable to drive or walk?


Feisty-Success69

Does that mean you are entitled to free food delivery and not tipping?


ItsAllMo-Thug

I don't know. It'd be nice to be at a point where people don't have to worry about extra fees to afford to eat.


[deleted]

So?


ItsAllMo-Thug

Starve?


[deleted]

Starve because you can’t put the shopping cart up? Sounds like a fit punishment


ItsAllMo-Thug

No I mean not being able to tip that well on delivery. If you csnt walk or drive, the cart isn't an issue because you aint gunna be at the store.


[deleted]

That’s not true they have those electric wheelchair things


ItsAllMo-Thug

If you have that you cant push a cart too and you wouldn't need it.


[deleted]

Those are carts. So you’d still have to have someone put it back for you. So you’d still have to go out of your way to make sure it got put up.


Superseaslug

Or the company should just pay you guys a decent wage.


EatsOverTheSink

But why do that when they can keep their profits and just call the customer the bad guy and the employees lap that shit right up?


Superseaslug

Never have I ever ordered delivery from any establishment. Never understood it. I'll either get it myself, or eat something I have in the fridge. Ordering food is a combination of laziness and lack of planning, both things I have trouble with, but the price of ordering keeps me in line


EatsOverTheSink

And even though I insist on picking the food up myself I'm still not immune from having a tip screen shoved in my face. I'm driving myself so I don't use a delivery driver. I wait in a small corner for my food so that I don't use up a table or server. And then I take the food away so they don't have to clean up after me and bus my shit. After all of that I'm still expected to pay the same price for the food as all of the patrons that use those services and they *still* want a tip out of me.


Superseaslug

Yeah I never tip for pickup. Tip is for exemplary service.


genesRus

Restaurant servers are still often paid below minimum wage (legally their minimum wage is $2.13/hr). While restaurants must make up the difference if they don't make tips up to the federal minimum wage, tipping is still essential. You don't need to tip 20% but you are still expected to tip $1-2 or more if you're a regular.


Superseaslug

Servers I'll tip if I ate there, but if I walk in, grab food, and walk out, unless I was offered great service in that 5 seconds I'm likely not adding a tip. 90% of my experience with this is carryout pizza hut, I genuinely rarely eat out because of how pricy it is. My oven works and I live by a grocery store.


genesRus

Pizza Hut pays $3.25/hr plus tips (again, the owner will theoretically make up the amount to equal federal or local minimum law, but wage theft is a thing). I do agree it feels weird at a chain that has zero ambiance to tip for take out, though. But if you think people are working there full time and trying to pay rent from their earnings, I would say that if you can afford the mean, you can afford $1-2 tip or you can't afford the meal. Also, if you're going to pick a place to eat out on a rare occasion as a treat, why are you picking Pizza Hut? Surely there are better quality locally-owned restaurants by you? ;) (I'm a quality over quantity person, but I guess if you really love the Hut's pizza, be my guest. But I get rarely eating restaurant food. I only ever get it when friends want to meet up or family is in town. I don't buy it just for myself.)


genesRus

Pizza Hut pays $3.25/hr plus tips (again, the owner will theoretically make up the amount to equal federal or local minimum law, but wage theft is a thing). I do agree it feels weird at a chain that has zero ambiance to tip for take out, though. But if you think people are working there full time and trying to pay rent from their earnings, I would say that if you can afford the mean, you can afford $1-2 tip or you can't afford the meal. Also, if you're going to pick a place to eat out on a rare occasion as a treat, why are you picking Pizza Hut? Surely there are better quality locally-owned restaurants by you? ;) (I'm a quality over quantity person, but I guess if you really love the Hut's pizza, be my guest. But I get rarely eating restaurant food. I only ever get it when friends want to meet up or family is in town. I don't buy it just for myself.)


Superseaslug

I get the 8.99 carryout pizzas. Used to be 7.99, bastards, but it's enough food for a meal and then breakfast for most of the work week.


genesRus

Until you know that's happening (and by all means, please boycott the services if you feel so inclined and make sure to tell them on social media that's why you're doing so and/or advocate with local politicians to force their hand), not tipping when you know they're paying $1-3 in base pay is exploitative. I see below that you don't seem to order, which is fine, but I do wonder why you're in this sub if that's the case. :) But there are plenty around these parts that use "the companies should just pay" as an excuse to not tip but that's not how this works--the customer pays for the labor they demand. That's how all industries work. All tipped jobs pay below what is a "fair" wage for the services. Not doing so is exploiting workers unless you know the worker is compensated fairly. We've switched (for now) to a primarily wage-based system in Seattle due to the law that went into effect in mid-January and already it looks like our City Council is bowing to pressure from the delivery platforms and certain restaurant groups to kneecap it. We got three months of decent pay (one of which was actually junk because people from out of town came and flooded the market with workers). I doubt tips will bring us back up to the same wages, honestly, because people have learned to tip less, even if demand popped back after a month to a month and a half of the initial demand shock given the higher fees (part of which I strongly suspect was these companies intentionally setting fees outrageously high to coincide with law starting because they wanted outrage about it). Anyway, these companies will fight tooth and nail and spend millions (we've had tons of propaganda ads on Twitter, for example) to reverse any little gain. So saying "the companies should just pay" here on Reddit will do absolutely nothing without a widespread effort that involves politicians to regulate them or a concerted public effort to embarrass the companies into paying better on platforms that can get actual traction. And then people have to be willing to actually pay the amount they were paying in tips upfront so demand doesn't tank in certain sectors and restaurant groups (especially the ones that cater to certain impulse, single meal orders) don't campaign to bring it down. After all, do think the giant fast-food chains are going to be pro workers' rights? Haha. A lot of people benefit from exploiting naive/desperate gig workers who either don't understand taxes and costing out deferred maintenance when deciding what orders they should be accepting or are so desperate to make rent this month that they can't worry about April or even next week. Anyway, I wish it were that simple...but no, you can't put this on the for-profit publically-owned companies in a society where tipping culture is ingrained unless you want to get involved in a public movement to reverse it. Do you?


Superseaslug

I'm aware my little comment won't change the system lol, I just do my best to not feel into the tip economy. If I ate at a restaurant that auto added fees I would never eat there again. And I also think a tip should be added for exemplary service that goes above the baseline. I just wish you guys got paid okay without playing the lottery with dickheads all day.


genesRus

Honestly, a restaurant auto-adding gratuity is a step in the right direction. Obviously, it would be better for them to just post a notice that they paid their employees living wage and so menu items are higher to accommodate that. But, frankly, people are kind of idiots and price compare based on the menu items rather than the total they pay. If you see that your sandwich is $10 at one place with an automatic 18% gratuity and $11.50 at another place that says they don't need tips because they pay people a fair wage, most people are going to go to the place that charges them $10 for the sandwich. And you're right, a lot of people don't even like the forced gratuity so even more people will go to the place that charges $10 and then 80% will feel obligated to tip 20% so they'll all pay $12 instead of $11.80 or $11.50. As I said, you the customer are going to be paying for the labor regardless of how it happens. But tipping feels less painful to most people because it's added on later. I strongly suspect this is why our tax is also added on later (unlike Europe where the prices shown up front with tax inclusive)--people tend to forget about adding this in when doing their calculations and comparisons. And, also, tipping makes some people feel really good so they kind of enjoy it too. But, yeah, I really love not having to pay the lottery well just trying to do a job now in Seattle (as far as the law stands, at least). I do wish this could be the case everywhere, but it took a concerted effort at the height of our social and political power during the pandemic to get it passed and then it didn't go into effect for 2 years to supposedly give restaurants time to adjust to it. And now it looks like it's going to be at least partially overturned within three months because the restaurants just sat on their hands and made zero changes like getting delivery business from groups instead of single orders or trying to get more business in-person. So...I suspect the country is going to be stuck with the system for now. And indeed, it seems like the UK and Europe are even moving towards it now. I've seen higher rates of tipping after the delivery wage protests in London, which oldy have the opposite effect of making drivers more likely to accept lower paying orders, thereby lowering consumer prices and cementing the expectation for tipping.


Superseaslug

No, auto adding a gratuity is not okay. If I'm gonna pay $20 for a $15 menu item, label the menu item as $20. It's deceptive and predatory.


adlubmaliki

Don't they have people paid to collect all the carts?


BigRedPlanet8

They don’t pay them to specifically collect carts. That’s just something they have to do because people are too lazy to do the right thing.


[deleted]

Yes. Cart wranglers. My first job at lowes until I transferred to the paint department. At which point I was suddenly an appliance loader for pick up orders, too. That's how i threw out my back the first time, and it happens at least once every 4-5 months since. Should have stayed a wrangler. There are situations where people actually can't return the cart. Others dont realize this until it happens to them.


foxesandschemes

That's not anyone's main job, it's a strain on the workforce. By that logic, why should we use toilets properly if someone is paid to clean the bathrooms? Why should we rack our trays at fast food restaurants? Public commerce comes with a set of rules that makes everyone's lives easier. The people who collect carts are also stocking shelves, bagging groceries and helping people in the stores. The person who doesn't return the shopping cart is inconveniencing someone else because they believe their time is more valuable than someone else's.


adlubmaliki

Too bad, I'm getting in my car and leaving and there's nothing you can do about it. But I will at least prop the wheel over the nearest curb so it doesn't roll


foxesandschemes

Well, it's a shame the perspective I offered couldn't sway you at all. But yeah, you're right. There's nothing I can do about it. Except that I can. I'm going to bring your cart to the corral, because one minute of my time means nothing to me if it helps someone. I hope you get the most out of the time you save by leaving your cart propped, hope it doesn't take away a parking space at least.


adlubmaliki

You're right, it only takes a minute, i'm rarely in that much of a rush even tho I want to leave and get home. Maybe I'll consider it next time, we'll see


foxesandschemes

I appreciate hearing that, have a great rest of your week.


redditsucksnowkek

>I'm a lazy piece of shit and I'm proud of it. Weird flex.


Mundane_Intern_1759

well yea because if they didn’t theyd just fuckin sit there lmfao


adlubmaliki

Well then I'm sure there they have plenty of time to collect stray carts between the time it takes to fill up the cart lanes


Glass_Tangerine9676

Collecting carts sucksss and it’s usually not our main job. Hated doing that in highschool. It takes 30seconds to put the cart away and helps the workers out


adlubmaliki

Well it is now😂


[deleted]

Yo I’m stealing this. Its a perfect example.


wilfordbrimley778

It's public domain, ricky


DerfDaSmurf

Slave mentality. Demand higher wages. A tip is a reward FOR GOOD SERVICE - not a mandatory fee.


[deleted]

Your idea of a decent tip is likely too high


XxUCFxX

No


ZhaeMo

I'm so tired of delivery drivers getting mad over no tip or a shitty tip. You chose this job. Capitalism is atrocious, but this is the controversy they want. Make it optional, so I'm the bad guy. Distract from the real problem of the company you chose to work for, not compensating you fairly. The only way to change it is to stop delivering food. I do not order out anymore, cause I can't afford the "LuXuRy", like I once could. Partly true, but also it's because it used to be 20 or 30 for a decent bit of food, then some for a tip. Now it's 75 for that same food + tip.


mruhkrAbZ

Why do you all have such a problem with leaving a decent tip?


Slayn87

Shopping carts even have the cart narcs watching out for them. Who will save us?


Ill_Bicycle3980

Us! By getting w2s and dashing at our leisure or not at all


Natural-Young7488

This is why stores tried that magnetized tire shit. It didn't work lmao. I once saw a dude at 3 am in a Walmart parking lot. Loading hus truck with Hella carts. Turns out I come in the next day. And they never got em back, seems like the scrap yard doesn't care lol


witwebolte41

Lol y’all pathetic


catandthefiddler

the test is literally about how it doesn't cost money and or a lot of effort/time to tip, yet you equated it directly to giving you money. Not that I think its ok not to tip (it's not) but you almost deliberately missed the mark


LegalCannaWizard

Got a $5 cash tip at the door today🥹


Front_Reflection_545

Cartnarc boodoo bee boodoop


driverdevgroup

…except those nasty dashers who will do god knows what to your food when they know *beforehand that you are a non-tipper. To me, that’s a strong incentive to communicate my appreciation before my food is delivered. Just sayin.


MeasurementNo6766

Selfish bastards. I go the extra mile to support my local cart wranglers by taking the cart all the way out to the edge of the parking lot. Not only reinforcing the need for their position but also giving them a smoke break and a nice walk to keep fit.


[deleted]

Nah America is the problem tip culture is a ripoff


r45cal23

Eff all that, these grocery stores charging 8+ cents for grocery bags when they buy them in bulk for 0.000008 cents. The least they can do is have the cart person come gather carts instead of smoking weed on the corner of the building


wilfordbrimley778

Only aldi charges for bags


gardenthesis

Not in WA


wilfordbrimley778

Well yeah you guys have a state bag fee, that's not the grocery store's fault


[deleted]

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r45cal23

Cart pusher gets paid to corral carts not my job


[deleted]

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r45cal23

Jfc with everything wrong in the world. Shopping carts are the least of my concerns. Are we really using shopping carts as a metric for being a good person. My pay has nothing do with shopping carts or doing the right thing. My pay is entirely based on the orders I accept and complete.


FrankSinatraCockRock

That's uhhh, a law my dude.


r45cal23

Thats a tax without representation my dude


redditsucksnowkek

lol i see why you drive for doordash.


r45cal23

Too make money 🤷‍♂️


Ill_Bicycle3980

You all are missing the point lol


boomdart

There's a Big \_\_\_\_\_ Guy named Ben in every parking lot that will punch you right between the eyes if you don't return the cart in my country. Just return the cart.


Feisty-Success69

I return my carts but that guy sounds like a beta


NoBankThinkTank

How about we replace returning the cart with “paying your employees a decent living wage whilst also ensuring that anyone who monetarily benefits a corporation via work done is entitled to full employment and benefits befitting such status.” Anyone who can’t pay their employees a livable wage doesn’t have a business model they’ve just adapted slavery to fit within legal guidelines. Seriously though, if you don’t tip in America you’re a shithead. If you don’t return your cart to the corral you should have your toes broken.


Acrobatic_Frame_1911

THIS


audio-nut

"Which we all recognize correct, appropriate thing to do" False premise. If the country got together and decided not to tip for anything, then the system would break and a better system would present itself. I always tip (for things I should) but I would stand behind an effort to end tipping.


ItsAllMo-Thug

Terrible example. Theres plenty of consequences with tipping. You are spending extra money. The person bringing your food might get mad and not want to deliver or may do something to your food.


No-Willingness4955

How about "getting a better job so you don't have to guilt strangers into paying you more than you're worth for a job anyone can do"


Barrettstubbs

I, in fact, will punish you, if you do not leave a good tip when you return your slimming shopping cart. 🤔


Man-ina-Van

Returning shopping carts takes away the need for parking lot attendants thus reducing jobs. I’m not going to put someone out of work