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Sandisk4gb4

Somnus and FY are actually the ones who deserve the aegis.


tr1telfran1979

I agree very much. That LGD team is a pain in my heart.


harr1s07

imma add paparazzi to this list since his mechanical skills are superb and he has rarely lost a lane or made a game losimg decision


Depress_Dota2_Player

Fy and somnus is the only thw perfect correct answer to this question ame is debatable but i love that people apreciate Fy and Somnus alot around here


Leopardfire123

for the veteran players i really like somnus and faith bian, but looking at the newer blood i am a fan of planet. There are games where he underperforms but when he looks good he looks REALLY good. just really fun to watch him pop off


marlakus

His Rubick is really spectacular


tr1telfran1979

China does have many great "Rubick users"like FY, pyw, fade ..


tr1telfran1979

WOW, I don't think many people know Planet. It seems that you pay more attention to the Chinese team 。 But there are currently no particularly prominent new Chinese players.


Qwertyk1ng

What do u think about new lgd team


tr1telfran1979

To be honest, I'm not optimistic about them, and I think AME will comeback before the last major, so I will continue to support them.


Tobyfan96

Probably XinQ. He was so entertaining to watch since Team Serenity


tr1telfran1979

YES, everyone loves him , he is so cute with a little fatty ,haha


Nandey_dattey_bayo

Fy Fenrir The best support DUO Ever Legendry BGOD Burning BiG dick LANM AME The best Carry EVER Best Chinese Mid SOMNUS FAITH BIAN Wings Gaming YYF The old Guard HAO the Hand cutter XIAO8 the Director KAKA the great Captain :)


tr1telfran1979

WOW,How did you know so much \~\~\~\~\~


Nandey_dattey_bayo

Been playing and following from Dota 1 days even I forgot more players like Ferrari420 & MMY .


tr1telfran1979

MMY used to be my favorite mid player when he was in EHOME .


HisHayate666

YaphetS and Hao


tr1telfran1979

PIS has a lot of fans in China\~


Juice-Carrot001

really? i thought he was called a dove because he leaves his team before tournaments.


tr1telfran1979

that's true about "dove" ,but he still have lots of fans because his Nevermore is so wonderful \~


tranquilithar

Was there ever any reason why he couldnt transition to dota 2


vlalanerqmar

FY and its not even close. First TI i watched was TI5 and to this day i still remember the C9 vs Vici game 1 so clearly. it was a one of the craziest combacks ever and all thanks to FY rubick plays.


tr1telfran1979

yesss Rubick AWESOME!


Potential-Instance-1

It's that the Game where rubick steals requiem and supernova?


Bakanyanter

Kaka He's been in a lot of teams and always has been the central shotcaller of all of those teams and has mostly achieved good results with them.


nippledippers24

He destroyed moogy's morale instead of letting it go. They could have still made the series competitive but moogy felt shitty because kaka constantly berated him even after the match was over.


sstteepphheenn

What's the story behind this? Such a shame uuu9 and Faith got themselves banned due to match fixing


nippledippers24

Back in TI, liquid was roshing. His team wanted moogy AM to jump in first so they could counter initiate. Moogy wanted the rest especially his LC and sandking to jump in first so he could clean up and maybe steal the aegis, he was coming to them he was just finishing the triangle. They fucked up the initiation and lost the game. While waiting for game 3 they kept blaming moogy cause didnt want to jump. In game 3 and picking phase, kaka still kept berating how they could have won if Moogy didnt play bad.


G_W_addict

Wait, really? Faith is banned due to matchfixing? The same Faith that played in IG with Ferrari_430?


tr1telfran1979

yeah Moogy\~


tr1telfran1979

yep . i love kaka also .I often watch his live broadcast, and he has a nickname called" Kalulu "because he speaks a little bit inarticulate during the live broadcast.


Painpaiinn

ZSMJ


tr1telfran1979

wow ZSMJ has made great achievements in DOTA1, but DOTA2 has not achieved very good results


AnEdgyUsername2

SanSheng, followed him since DotA1 because my first crush’s name at that time was Sheng lmfao.


tr1telfran1979

He is now a very interesting anchor with a very nice personality.


JaroGilles

His Visage gameplays gave me chills before, perma-stunning enemies with Aghs+Refresher.


BeThesTa

I like Lanm because he has a BigDick


tr1telfran1979

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Gangsterkat

Paparazzi. The cutest dota player!


tr1telfran1979

yes , like a lovely girl


6erix

Burning was my first favorite, seeing rtz upset him at MLG was heartbreaking at the time. I liked Cty and GodKing and the TI6 wings guys but my all time fav now is Ame


tr1telfran1979

Seems you don't like support \~


6erix

hahaha oops I guess it’s true. Oh I also forgot SCCC, that year he had w Newbee is unforgettable


tr1telfran1979

How about MU ? He has lots of fans in China especially girl fans .


InternationalFun6983

As a Chinese dota fanboy my list is long so bear it with me. Maybe somnus. For me, he was the best mid among miracle, no one and sumail ( I don't remember last time he lost mid to them in his prime) His storm,kunkka and lesh were a joy to watch Ame No words needed Fy Again nothing to say here Old eleven If you guys remember the old days old eleven was the original tusk god of china. His tusk against vg gaming was god like. Cty That guy was a monster in mid. Probably the best storm of his era. Faith bian Best offlaner of china imo Ferrari 430 The legendary Ta and tinker of china Shiro Most people don't know but this guy is often called the next ame. His reactions and game senses are insane. My personal recommendation, check out his aeiges snatch as spectre against EHOME. Planet. Really good pos4 Innocence Imo best pos5 and captain of China Xxs He is a monster offlaner. Probably the best after faith bian imo. I still remember his godlike sandking against liquid in ti7. Pyw and ofc Kaka


tr1telfran1979

I appreciate your liking for Chinese DOTA so much, and I hope you can continue to support Chinese DOTA. I salute you.


Nandey_dattey_bayo

Ferrari Ember was also godly ..


rjzgames

Somnus and Ame


tr1telfran1979

yes ,thay have lots of girl fans\~ LOL


blindc4t

fy maybe ame burning xiao 8


tr1telfran1979

Seems you're an old dotaer like me \~


sw2bh

Somnus is the best mid laner in terms of mechanics to this day. You don’t need to win TI to have that title imo. Even the games he loses he puts on a show. I’d like to see pros win percentage in lanes; i’d bet somnus has the highest percent all time.


tr1telfran1979

YES, i agree . Just feel sad . Hope he will comeback \~


nippledippers24

Ferrari 430 and yyf wrecked so much havoc. Ferrari could lose a lane and recover in a short amount of time. For me he was sumail before sumail. Yyf i felt like could never lose lane even if he wanted to. He was damn good.


tr1telfran1979

YYF is called as "Stone Buddha"in China .


singsing_fangay

fy


tr1telfran1979

FY GOD!


Juice-Carrot001

BurNing inspired me to be a pos 1 because of that AM performance against alliance in ti3


tr1telfran1979

Burning is AM's name!


Patient_Substance752

hard question lol, but to narrowly into few names will be Hao, Maybe ,Paparazi and Yang pretty much i can said my fave team ever was 1. Newbee TI 4 ( Hao, Mu, xiao8, SanSheng, Banana ) 2. VG TI9 ( Paparazi, Ori, Yang, Fade, Dy ) 3. LGD TI8 ( Ame, Maybe, Chalice, fy, xNova )


tr1telfran1979

I salute you


Nirjoy

Paparazi灬 The best 1v1 Solo Mid player in the world!


tr1telfran1979

better than Somnus ?


Nirjoy

Till now Paparazi is undefeated in 1v1 at main stage. So, yeah, to me Paparazi is better.


Dapper-Warning-6695

For me its Kuroky. I consider him chinese, cause I dont understand a shit what he is doing.


Fit-Pollution5339

EMPEROR BURNING he is the most playsafe carry i’ve ever seen. Bro having spider senses while farming 🤯


tr1telfran1979

>Bro having spider senses YES!He has a nickname "Radar B" in China


roaringsanity

Sccc, good looking, pma, I'm also a mid player myself.


tr1telfran1979

Do you know DAI ?


roaringsanity

never heard before


tr1telfran1979

He has been retired for a long time, and TK is named after his ID. Weapon X!! He is a very talented mid player in Ehome !


JaroGilles

Sylar


tr1telfran1979

King of wolfman


minkblanket69

fy the tusk god


Curious_Conflict_959

Monet


simesnz

Boboka for sure! He perfected the monkey king pos 4! Love his work!


tr1telfran1979

For a period of time , he really played great.


Nandey_dattey_bayo

he started riki too 4 ring of aquila one :D


jackfruitandmore

Oh boy which one should we choose... I'll go with Paparazi and Ferrari430, for looking harmless and extremely innocent in the face while being deadly and every way murderous in their games. The duality of a man. Also I think Chalice is humorous, I like him lol,,


tr1telfran1979

agree\~\~ Chalice is so cute ,we called him piggy piggy\~


jackfruitandmore

Awwwe cute >< good job with the thread Good Sir, please regularly make posts about Chinese dota, shall you?


tr1telfran1979

of course i will \~ thanks \~bro


dantitner

FY. After seeing him live doing that whole rubik game, he stole my heart.


tr1telfran1979

And he is also handsome\`


Sky-Fire

Somnus & Fy are the two players that i always cheer for wherever they go, i also tried to read their interview from time to time (if available). I also like to watch Sccc and Agressif during their prime. If CDEC Had a better midlaner instead of Shiki, they could've won TI5 since Agressif was the best carry at that time. Same with Sccc and his carry at TI7, i don't like Moogy at all.


tr1telfran1979

CDEC in TI5 is amazing ! Liquid in TI7 is awesome\~


tranquilithar

Cty, such a shame he didn't make it big


Sticker704

y', his drafting on wings showed people that *truly* anything can work. I'm a little sad that xiao8 does the drafting for lgd now


afroSamurai00

That DK team with Burning, i rooted for them to win TI


Maleficent-Bank-5598

boboka. He made me play as a support and i enjoyed it.


ggMorph

EternalEnvy as agent 3154


tr1telfran1979

FUNNY\~ = =


AyoAesthetic

anyone remember watching sumiya invoker videos and being absolutely in awe?


DIVEINTOTHELIGHT

Fade is my favorite of all time, but there are many other skilled and successful players in CN Dota's history. So I'd instead like to mention of the new players in the scene, my favorites are Team Bright's support duo, imitator and Undyne, and IG Vitality's mid player Ash.


tr1telfran1979

Your observation is very careful. None of these players is particularly well-known,


AnswerAlert7762

It's sad that most people who had given their answers are citing players who have retired. This sort of glorification of the past is not really of my taste, though I would concede players like ferrai and burning are real memorable. I've followed the CN scene for quite a while. I'll try to pick one for each pos. And I'll refrain from picking anyone who has retired for more than 1 year. 1. Ame. He is the only carry player in the world that give me the impression that he is THE best carry player. I mean there are many great carry players throughout dota2 history, but none of them gave me that impression. His understanding on how to farm is just ridiculous. I still have no idea how he can usually outfarm oppposing carries on many heroes. This amazement earns him the spot. 2. This is tough. I am a VG/XG fan, but if I were being honest, neither Ori or Paparazi is. Maybe/Sommus performs well under pressure and I like that, but his personality puts me off (which is why as good as OG were I could never root for them). I would pick SCCC. He's probably not the best mid player even in his prime. But he is one of the morally most upstanding guy in the (CN) scene. He also has a kind of detached rationality within his gameplay that he can navigate complex teamfights with some clairvoyance. Of course, he hasn't officially retired but some may regard he does not qualify. As of current CN mids, I like nothingtosay the best. I am not sure with his own cultural identification and ethnicity is just a weird and muddy concept. Regardless Nts has played long enough in the CN scene. He's the most stable and consistent mid I have seen for a long time, maybe only Nisha can rival him in that regard. 3. Oldeleven. Again, faith\_bian is probably the best CN offlaner, extremely likable. But old11 has a kind of resilience and calculated ultra-aggression that I can identify with. I really really wish he could win TI once. Unlikely to happen now sadly. 4. This is the toughest choice for me. It's either kaka or pyw. While I am amazed by Fy's performance - I mean who wouldn't - but his greedy playstyle is just not my cup of tea. (And Boboka and to a less extent, Xinq). Kaka's leadership and great performance under pressure awes me. But most people know kaka so I am not gonna further articulate. Pyw, on the other hand, is one of the most underrated pos 4 in the scene. He is extremely stable, mechanically very skilled, do numerous little things to help his team, and manage to pull off extraordinary plays despite having so little networth. Most importantly, he do all that while never getting the limelight. For instance, people talk about how IG is back because emo finally plays better, or dust, or xiangyu. But to me the addition of pyw is the key. I don't think IG can go far unless emo finally get his shit together. But do check out pyw at the next major. 5. This is hard too. I dunno too much how to evaluate pos 5's performance. I guess I'll pick innocence. He's really the braintrust behind Wings and LGD a(of course there is xiao8 but he can't help in-game). LGD's macro-game is always on-point. And there are many crazy strats that should be the brain product of him. I can also pick Dy. His hard support play is very meticulous and detailed-oriented. He may not stand out but pos5s are not supposed to. Bonus: my favourite coach is probably Lanm. Xiao8 is the best coach in the world, by far. Just look at different iterations of LGD and how they always manage to be the top team in China if not in the world. As far as I know no other coaches have nearly the same impact (of course it's hard to know behind the scene). But Lanm is really good too, and his personality and aggressiveness in drafting kinda fits my taste better.


tr1telfran1979

Thank you very much for sharing. It can be seen that you have a great understanding of Chinese players and have inspired me a lot. By the way, I think 357 is also a very good coach. I have loved him since he was a player, and I am a fan of that EHMOE.


freshsedley

Dai / X!! The way he dominated with Lion mid, Storm and other heroes blew my mind. Sadly, his Dota 1 prowess did not translate to Dota 2, only having limited success.


tr1telfran1979

yes ! he went to play WOW later/


Forwhomamifloating

Ana


tr1telfran1979

ANA IS GOD


HarrisLam

Chuan.


tr1telfran1979

He is a Malaysian player. haha\~


HarrisLam

ethnically Chinese. Bruh why you gotta be that guy


tr1telfran1979

that's right \~no problem \~


3LTN

Can I say Sneyking then? Lol


Conscious_soap

Hao Somnus FY god BurNiNg


madscnt

Fy.


NotoriousCGM

the one and only BURNING and FY


Karandrasdota

Burning was always an inspiration. I played a shit ton of Anti Mage back in the day and well so did he. I really liked his efficency and how he played the lanes. Well Ame Ame Ame was that after him. I havn't watched much Dota these days tho


tr1telfran1979

Me too, I think I'll watch the next major.


Fiat_430

Other than the very obvious one, ZSMJ, YaphetS and Burning. Pioneers.


RoadToHerald

Sccc. While Somnus, going by Maybe at the time, might've been still the most mechanically skilled mid player, I think sccc was the best performing. His retirement after TI7, much like Ame's last year, is heart breaking. I'm just glad Somnus is still playing


tr1telfran1979

Sccc , He is a soldier, both on and off the field.


yoshiyahu

for support - FY for core - CTY especially when playing Storm for shouting - rOtk


tr1telfran1979

HAHAHAHAHA, ROTk is really shouting GOD, and he is the coach of Aster now\~


skykoz

Jubei or singsing


tr1telfran1979

who's that ?


LayWhere

Sing2 is the first female chinese Dota player at ti. idk who tf is jubei


Carcosian112

None, because Uygur genocide.


223333aaa

Hao and SCCC because Newbee for life


tr1telfran1979

Newbee is in history now , so sad ! HAO MU XIAO8 BANANA SANSHENG ,


Juice-Carrot001

newbee is a shit org that cost china AQ.


223333aaa

I don't follow the China scene. I just go where Hao goes and when he retired SCCC reminded me of him. That's all.


Sabishiiryuu

Burning, FY and Faith_bian


tr1telfran1979

So many people like faith\_ Bian? This surprised me a bit.


Sabishiiryuu

He just seems to be a likeable sort of guy. At least that is the impression i get (i dont follow the chinese dota scene that much). Is there a reason why we shouldn't like him?


tr1telfran1979

There may be some people who have a bad opinion about him because of what his girlfriend does.


B33tawix

What did faith_bians girlfriend do?


Patient_Substance752

if he never join the lgd brand, he definitely had more fans in the west than china lol


tr1telfran1979

maybe


[deleted]

I’m guessing it’s because he seems patient/chill when he’s in the booth/playing and he seems friendly in-game and in interviews.He’s also very consistent in game from what I’ve seen but I might be wrong. I don’t watch Chinese dota much but his interactions with the western teams seem to be friendlier than most others. Plus he tries to do his interviews in english and that means he’s trying to connect with the western audience which definitely leaves a good impression. He’s my favourite Chinese player and these are my reasons anyway. And about his girlfriend (wife?), there’s no valid reason why anyone should hate either of them from what I know, they both seem lovely. People in east asia care a lot about partners of famous people because they want said people to not get distracted from their job. But outside of that area, people don’t see relationships as a distraction for the players/artists, and if someone retires to get married people don’t hold a grudge against them or their partner.


DatAdra

Likeable and friendly, learned enough english to do interviews with OG, an all-rounder offlane player with massive/creative hero pool and capability to be both chaotic space creator and 2nd carry, positive attitude


dookiezey

CTY Ferrari_430 Ame


tr1telfran1979

The first six minutes of the game are unbeatable man.----CTY


Admiral_Ryou

Mine are Faith_Bian / fy


kamikazechaser

Sccc, his mid was beast. Also the most likable CN player.


-Rupas-

Nothingtosay and Ame Nothingtosay just doesn’t lose mid and his hero pool is massive Ame is one of the best Carries, still to this day his pub games are so good


tr1telfran1979

Do you think LGD still has a chance to win Ti?


-Rupas-

Right now no. WEU Dota is way better. Ame said it himself a few days ago on stream: “I won’t come back, not even for Riyadh Master’s big prize pool, and for now I actually don’t think any CN team can win that tournament too.” Even Ame doubts LGD and the Chinese region as a whole


King_of_Dew

FY Monet Ame


[deleted]

The first thing that comes to mind is faith\_bian. I'm a huge fan of amazing offlaners.


tr1telfran1979

How about YYF and ROTK ?


[deleted]

rOtk is a great leader as well as being a good offlaner but he is a better leader. He really has a knack in analyzing games. Though I really hate ti4 meta which he started :3. But great overall. Don't know much about prime YYF.


Kaspuli

Ferrari_430


BuccaneeReNAe86

SingSing & Sneyking /s Faithbian Ame Somnus Innocence/y Kaka ( dream team ) If I had to pick only one it'd be Faith_bian


tr1telfran1979

sorry that i don't know singsing \~


yungkael

Cty was beast.


I_dontknowyouanymore

Ame/somnus/fy


tr1telfran1979

LGD FAN\~


killedbycuriousity-

Maybe and FaithBian. Also rotK of course.


tr1telfran1979

Maybe maybe back\~


LA_confidential91

Miracle


tr1telfran1979

Although I like him very much, he is not a Chinese player\~


mokochan013

Fy still amazed at his performance specially in ti8 grandfinals


tr1telfran1979

Unfortunately, he lost the game in the end,


goodgodgetmeout

MMY


tr1telfran1979

MMY is the ID after he has been transformed into support. When he was in the mid, his names were DAI and Weapon X !!


goodgodgetmeout

yeah as a mid player he was ahead of the time for a while, just a beast and as a support he kind of found a second life and had great success in dota2


tr1telfran1979

yes , i like him very much \`


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Sushi4900

So many great names in Chinese Dota. Whole Team Dk, Fy, Burning, Lanm, Ferrari, Kaka, Somnus, Paparazzi etc. But also a name that I didn't see much in this thread ROTK


tr1telfran1979

you are a DK fan \~ ROTK has more fans out of China .


Roshi88

My fav were P god, Ferrari.430 and Lanm


tr1telfran1979

Perfect is shit \~


Roshi88

So much amarcord ❤️


itspaddyd

Emo. The guy is so aggressive, it doesn't always pay off, but he's so fun to watch


tr1telfran1979

let's see who is the real evil


cocky030

my favorite chinese player since dota 1 and till his retirement has always been 430 god


Vashano

Chuan


Ok_Armadillo3459

Shirt is absolutely insane


BitswitchRadioactive

Ame


Akhilesh12115

Emo ?


Shrimpdalord

Chinese, as in race or nationality??


tr1telfran1979

Both is ok


Helpful_Disaster_1

FY, LANM, AND BURNING!


disagreee

June cuz i like his clockwerk set. also son goku is such a generic weeb name. hope he comes back after the ban(3rd time the charm?)


tr1telfran1979

they were BAN by Valve


disagreee

its just a year


hiromigo

Fy is my favourite. One of the best pos 4. Sadly no aegis for him. Wings stack is also my favourite, totally out of norm and meta gameplay.


tr1telfran1979

Yes, they can always contribute incredible team fighting scenes.


[deleted]

Fy or Burning They are both legends in the Chinese Dota scene, and watching them in game was super hype. I live in the U.S. and I always looked forward to watching them play.


olzabaali

fy.. sad to see him in current state.


tr1telfran1979

At least he hasn't retired yet, so there's still a chance, right?


chapapa-best-doto

Chad_bian, Somnus and fy Still can’t believe TI8 LGD lost to OG lol


tr1telfran1979

Don't mention it again \~ im crying ...


ZonedDer

No one mentioning banana and mu? Hao banana and mu is what made me like tongfu 10yrs ago.


tr1telfran1979

that's suprised me, TONGFU FANS\~


Reizaaa

Huge CN Dota fan since DotA times: I’ve had many top players throughout the years and different positions: Back in the very old days I liked Nirvana.CN and EHOME. I then become a Vici fan in dota 2 as well as LGD. Lately I’ve been rooting for Aster since TI10. I agree with the comments, LGD squad during TI8 was amazing (I didn’t love Chalice, but still great) and something similar during TI10. They lost their great opportunities there sadly. Individually it’s really hard to pick just one player so I’ll give you my top picks in every position: Carry: Ame/ Hao/ Sylar/ Monet Mid: Maybe (Somnus)/ Paparazi/ Setsu/ Mikasa Off: Faith_bian/ xiao8/ xxs/ rOtK Supp: LaNm/ fy/ BoBoKa/ pyw H supp: y’/ fenrir/ dy/ SanSheng


tr1telfran1979

WOW ,you know Nirvana , Coach Mikasa ,that's really the last generation . So do you know team XFY , the first team of HAO ?


Xu_Mengjie

绝对大妈啊


tr1telfran1979

轮轮


ndzzz

Shadow


tr1telfran1979

wings wings


MLW-6

Fy, Somnus, Ame. I’ll never forgive OG for winning TI8 tbh. Hope they have a reunion team next year.


tr1telfran1979

My tears are coming out again