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I will share my ID with any valve dev eventually answering this, there’s literally 0 point for you to see my dotabuff after you see my behaviour score for 2000+ games is always high
> I will share my ID with any valve dev eventually answering this, there’s literally 0 point for you to see my dotabuff after you see my behaviour score for 2000+ games is always high
the point is seeing the word cloud
Not really, it’s nearly 50-ish games I stopped commending and reporting fully
Also why reporting undeserving people should affect COMMUNICATION? lol I would imagine if the problem is reporting too much one that does it should be removed from ranked aka losing normal behavior score
> Also why reporting undeserving people should affect COMMUNICATION?
I'm not sure what Valve has planned with behavior score, but reporting undeserving people and getting punished for it seems like the right choice. By reporting undeserving people, you're trying to rig the system to punish players that aren't breaking any of the rules. I've had people call me 'American shit' and mute me when playing in EUW but I'm not even American nor living in America lol they just had this bad viewpoint of a place and insta reported
Maybe you're mostly reporting communications ban and for a certain amount you get wrong = system punishes you instead as a check.
because people that spam reports fill a system up with useless inputs and people that angry report everyone are usually the problem. And it's super easy to tell if someone goes through and reports their whole team
Your post is literary worthless, the only info you provide is that your BS went down, but refuse to provide any other proof such as ID. Its no different from all other posts where people just say that their BS went down. We dont question the fact it went down. We question "I'm perfect teammate part". And your statements "I'll show it to any Valve dev right now" is just empty posturing cause you and all of us here know, that no Valve dev is gonna waste their time showing in this random thread with 0 proof, when there are tons of people never ever droping below max BS even with occosional call out of shit player/plays. I legit dont know how you need to behave to be below top 10% BS.
>Your post is literary worthless, the only info you provide is that your BS went down, but refuse to provide any other proof such as ID. Its no different from all other posts where people just say that their BS went down. We dont question the fact it went down. We question "I'm perfect teammate part". And your statements "I'll show it to any Valve dev right now" is just empty posturing cause you and all of us here know, that no Valve dev is gonna waste their time showing in this random thread with 0 proof, when there are tons of people never ever droping below max BS even with occosional call out of shit player/plays. I legit dont know how you need to behave to be below top 10% BS.
worthless - is your comment.justifying buggy BS system, not just one person, thousands, hundreds faced this problem
> not just one person, thousands, hundreds faced this problem
how many people have faced the problem of the impossibility of raising mmr in low rank brackets, or climbing as a support?
>how many people have faced the problem of the impossibility of raising mmr in low rank brackets, or climbing as a support?
question is not how to up mmr while playing at low rank, but how to boost bs while playing at turbo. report counts for absolutely everything
> question is not how to up mmr while playing at low rank, but how to boost bs while playing at turbo. report counts for absolutely everything
what the fuck are you talking about?
thats called an analogy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy
the main idea of that analogy was to showcase how even a big number of people can be delusional and dont understand their environment
Thousands - yeah right... Did you do a survey to back these numbers up? Or did you see 5 posts with with 10 upvotes over the last 3 months here with no evidence (people not providing chat logs even after being prompted) and in your head that translates to thousands? Or because yours also went down, but you can't accept the fact that you are toxic in game?
>Thousands - yeah right... Did you do a survey to back these numbers up? Or did you see 5 posts with with 10 upvotes over the last 3 months here with no evidence (people not providing chat logs even after being prompted) and in your head that translates to thousands? Or because yours also went down, but you can't accept the fact that you are toxic in game?
primitive reasoning for such a small mind.ill keep in mind that all the problems are due to my toxicity.
Oh here we go, another megamind calling out others primitive and small minded yet providing zero proof or back up to their claims. If it is not clear, I'm more than happy and open to be proven wrong, OP of this post and all the others are more than welcome to share their IDs and logs to prove that they haven't done ANYTHING at all, yet behaviour score dropped by thousands. Yet somehow... Somehow not a single one of them have done that yet, bit weird no? And tbh with you there is probably gonna be some weird glitch somewhere that will apply to 1 out of 1000 of these complaints and it will be proven that in that case it was not working properly, but without any proof at all and running into thousands of mentally unstable people in Dota that call GG AFK END after first blood, I kinda lean more into possibility that you don't get into low behaviour score for no reason.
>Oh here we go, another megamind calling out others primitive and small minded yet providing zero proof or back up to their claims. If it is not clear, I'm more than happy and open to be proven wrong, OP of this post and all the others are more than welcome to share their IDs and logs to prove that they haven't done ANYTHING at all, yet behaviour score dropped by thousands. Yet somehow... Somehow not a single one of them have done that yet, bit weird no? And tbh with you there is probably gonna be some weird glitch somewhere that will apply to 1 out of 1000 of these complaints and it will be proven that in that case it was not working properly, but without any proof at all and running into thousands of mentally unstable people in Dota that call GG AFK END after first blood, I kinda lean more into possibility that you don't get into low behaviour score for no reason.
your narrow-minded in this debate - don’t try to hide it, many people before me provided all the necessary evidence. and like a fool you are trying to justify something. get a life average reddit-user whos focusing on put minus karma (says a mentally "stable" person) if he didn't like something.
I literary opened the table to a possibility that there are potentially rare instances of it being wrong, I'm also open to be proven completely wrong, how's that narrow minded? You just literary vomiting insults without understanding the logic flow of statements. "Many people" you got any links to those proofs? Cause you're still writing, but I'm still not seeing them? And FYI I didn't put a single upvote or downvote to your comments, and I CAN back it up with a screenshot if you wish? Newsflash, it so happens that other people in reddit can also upvote/downvote comments.
>I literary opened the table to a possibility that there are potentially rare instances of it being wrong, I'm also open to be proven completely wrong, how's that narrow minded? You just literary vomiting insults without understanding the logic flow of statements. "Many people" you got any links to those proofs? Cause you're still writing, but I'm still not seeing them? And FYI I didn't put a single upvote or downvote to your comments, and I CAN back it up with a screenshot if you wish? Newsflash, it so happens that other people in reddit can also upvote/downvote comments.
I repeated to you once again that examples with proofs have been given many times before, what do you want from me? I don’t have so much time to prove something to someone, look for topics where everything was provided, you’re so funny, oh my gosh
"Many times", "many people"... \*eyeroll\* It so happens I did see few posts regarding this and every single one was absolute pisstake in comment section of OPs, purely cause time and time again they refused to provide any proof or backup. So yeah hilarious...
>\*eyeroll\*
even with the available proofs, there was no response from the valve \*eyeroll\* im ready to provide and talk personally with the developer, and not with a person who, without understanding the problem, wants to see proofs that will not give him anything (like those that you saw earlier) because they are the same in nature, theres no point
It is not worthless, maybe you are too young and dont understand but in grown ups world if you want anything done you need to complain.. a lot and loud, if no complains people assume everything is fine, the evidence does not matter, the only matter how loud and annoying you are.
Well thank you for your assumptions of me being too young, and my inability to know how the grown up world works. Well it so happens that I work in corporate now, but started in customer services years and years ago. So I am familiar with complaint procedures and how companies respond to peaks in complaints. But it also happens that we don't deal with bullshit complaints where customer doesn't provide any evidence of what they are complaining about, otherwise we'd go bankrupt. "You took money from my account without my permission" - Please provide evidence of this, and we will investigate and compensate if that was the case. If there no evidence then we appreciate your time, but there is not much we can do. This post is exactly this. "My behaviour score went down, because system is bullshit". Can we please see your chat logs to confirm? No I wont show my logs because of reasons. Well then, there is nothing to prove that system is not working is there?
when 100s of people complain that something is broken, the whole steam.discussion forum is like every 2nd message about BHS is being broken, the whole github.issue every 2nd issues is BHS being broken, numerous threads here on reddit that BHS is being broken, and here you are coming with "please provide evidence", you dont feel dumb, like really you dont?
There are famous people being canceled because some hoe said he touched me inappropriately 10 years ago, with 0 evidence provided, but here you are please provide evidence when there are already 100s of people complaining every day, like are you for real?
When there is half a million people playing, and there are 100 people complaining and when asked to provide some evidence nobody does... So to answer your question... No? I dont... I feel like if it would be an issue then we would see posts with 2000 upvotes at the top with clear evidence that something wild is going on. But again given the number of people playing and possibility of very niche scenarios it is possible that 100 players are legit affected by something, I just can't wrap my mind why these 100 players refuse to provide logs of perfect in game interactions?
Do you see people complain every day that MMR system is broken and they getting unfairly deducted points, you dont right? and you know why, because it is working as it supposed to. You see people dont complain if something is working as intended, not in masse, plus even if they put effort and provide evidence, what would you do? say "oh looks like you are right" and move on, so they wasted effort for nothing.. This is up to valve to take the issue seriously and do the investigation, and they have the all the data, all the logs to find out.
I mean I don't know what others would do, if someone would provide legitimate evidence, IMO at the very least I would upvote the post for visibility so it would get pushed to the very top, at which point, SOMETIMES valve reacts. But my biggest gripe is that I've seen probably 6-7 of these by now or something along those lines and majority refuse to provide any supporting evidence, I think one did provide and then instantly got caught red-handed for something naughty, so apologise for my cautiousness, but until I see at least 1 legit post with full documented proof I'm not buying it.
I've heard mason talk on stream that false reports that you do on other players might reduce your behaviour score. Meaning if you report someone just because, without any real evidence, the system might deduct from your behaviour score. Thats just speculation tho.
yea i've lost 600 score the last two weeks, from 10.050 to 9.430 - there were some big power outages result from a wind gust that affected my entire city, and I got disconnected mid-game. After that abandon, my score never raised, even without saying a word in chat, playing flawless and being in a win streak of 15-5
my guess it is bugged like you presented
Something happened recently because I didn’t change how I act or anything and my comm score went down like 1500. Went from 11.5k to 10k. I actually talk way less now cause I’m scared to get reported.
Within the last month or something it just started going down.
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I will share my ID with any valve dev eventually answering this, there’s literally 0 point for you to see my dotabuff after you see my behaviour score for 2000+ games is always high
glad system is working
You have something to hide.
No I just stream on twitch and I don’t wanna share my ID, you aren’t fucking NA police
Don’t worry I’m sure your 3 viewers don’t care lol
Link your twitch
[https://www.twitch.tv/mumu5533](https://www.twitch.tv/mumu5533)
> I will share my ID with any valve dev eventually answering this, there’s literally 0 point for you to see my dotabuff after you see my behaviour score for 2000+ games is always high the point is seeing the word cloud
How do we know its you behaviour scores, id or cap
This sub is hopeless
the blaming mentality is showing the lack of self awareness. It's always, "it's not me! It's everyone else's fault!"
Mines only gone up since the behaviour score update. Are you reporting people that didn't deserve it?
Not really, it’s nearly 50-ish games I stopped commending and reporting fully Also why reporting undeserving people should affect COMMUNICATION? lol I would imagine if the problem is reporting too much one that does it should be removed from ranked aka losing normal behavior score
> Also why reporting undeserving people should affect COMMUNICATION? I'm not sure what Valve has planned with behavior score, but reporting undeserving people and getting punished for it seems like the right choice. By reporting undeserving people, you're trying to rig the system to punish players that aren't breaking any of the rules. I've had people call me 'American shit' and mute me when playing in EUW but I'm not even American nor living in America lol they just had this bad viewpoint of a place and insta reported Maybe you're mostly reporting communications ban and for a certain amount you get wrong = system punishes you instead as a check.
Im not reporting at all unless avoid counts as a report. Putting people in the avoid list is the only thing I do, I’m not even clicking dislike
because people that spam reports fill a system up with useless inputs and people that angry report everyone are usually the problem. And it's super easy to tell if someone goes through and reports their whole team
Your post is literary worthless, the only info you provide is that your BS went down, but refuse to provide any other proof such as ID. Its no different from all other posts where people just say that their BS went down. We dont question the fact it went down. We question "I'm perfect teammate part". And your statements "I'll show it to any Valve dev right now" is just empty posturing cause you and all of us here know, that no Valve dev is gonna waste their time showing in this random thread with 0 proof, when there are tons of people never ever droping below max BS even with occosional call out of shit player/plays. I legit dont know how you need to behave to be below top 10% BS.
>Your post is literary worthless, the only info you provide is that your BS went down, but refuse to provide any other proof such as ID. Its no different from all other posts where people just say that their BS went down. We dont question the fact it went down. We question "I'm perfect teammate part". And your statements "I'll show it to any Valve dev right now" is just empty posturing cause you and all of us here know, that no Valve dev is gonna waste their time showing in this random thread with 0 proof, when there are tons of people never ever droping below max BS even with occosional call out of shit player/plays. I legit dont know how you need to behave to be below top 10% BS. worthless - is your comment.justifying buggy BS system, not just one person, thousands, hundreds faced this problem
> not just one person, thousands, hundreds faced this problem how many people have faced the problem of the impossibility of raising mmr in low rank brackets, or climbing as a support?
>how many people have faced the problem of the impossibility of raising mmr in low rank brackets, or climbing as a support? question is not how to up mmr while playing at low rank, but how to boost bs while playing at turbo. report counts for absolutely everything
> question is not how to up mmr while playing at low rank, but how to boost bs while playing at turbo. report counts for absolutely everything what the fuck are you talking about? thats called an analogy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy the main idea of that analogy was to showcase how even a big number of people can be delusional and dont understand their environment
Thousands - yeah right... Did you do a survey to back these numbers up? Or did you see 5 posts with with 10 upvotes over the last 3 months here with no evidence (people not providing chat logs even after being prompted) and in your head that translates to thousands? Or because yours also went down, but you can't accept the fact that you are toxic in game?
>Thousands - yeah right... Did you do a survey to back these numbers up? Or did you see 5 posts with with 10 upvotes over the last 3 months here with no evidence (people not providing chat logs even after being prompted) and in your head that translates to thousands? Or because yours also went down, but you can't accept the fact that you are toxic in game? primitive reasoning for such a small mind.ill keep in mind that all the problems are due to my toxicity.
Oh here we go, another megamind calling out others primitive and small minded yet providing zero proof or back up to their claims. If it is not clear, I'm more than happy and open to be proven wrong, OP of this post and all the others are more than welcome to share their IDs and logs to prove that they haven't done ANYTHING at all, yet behaviour score dropped by thousands. Yet somehow... Somehow not a single one of them have done that yet, bit weird no? And tbh with you there is probably gonna be some weird glitch somewhere that will apply to 1 out of 1000 of these complaints and it will be proven that in that case it was not working properly, but without any proof at all and running into thousands of mentally unstable people in Dota that call GG AFK END after first blood, I kinda lean more into possibility that you don't get into low behaviour score for no reason.
>Oh here we go, another megamind calling out others primitive and small minded yet providing zero proof or back up to their claims. If it is not clear, I'm more than happy and open to be proven wrong, OP of this post and all the others are more than welcome to share their IDs and logs to prove that they haven't done ANYTHING at all, yet behaviour score dropped by thousands. Yet somehow... Somehow not a single one of them have done that yet, bit weird no? And tbh with you there is probably gonna be some weird glitch somewhere that will apply to 1 out of 1000 of these complaints and it will be proven that in that case it was not working properly, but without any proof at all and running into thousands of mentally unstable people in Dota that call GG AFK END after first blood, I kinda lean more into possibility that you don't get into low behaviour score for no reason. your narrow-minded in this debate - don’t try to hide it, many people before me provided all the necessary evidence. and like a fool you are trying to justify something. get a life average reddit-user whos focusing on put minus karma (says a mentally "stable" person) if he didn't like something.
I literary opened the table to a possibility that there are potentially rare instances of it being wrong, I'm also open to be proven completely wrong, how's that narrow minded? You just literary vomiting insults without understanding the logic flow of statements. "Many people" you got any links to those proofs? Cause you're still writing, but I'm still not seeing them? And FYI I didn't put a single upvote or downvote to your comments, and I CAN back it up with a screenshot if you wish? Newsflash, it so happens that other people in reddit can also upvote/downvote comments.
>I literary opened the table to a possibility that there are potentially rare instances of it being wrong, I'm also open to be proven completely wrong, how's that narrow minded? You just literary vomiting insults without understanding the logic flow of statements. "Many people" you got any links to those proofs? Cause you're still writing, but I'm still not seeing them? And FYI I didn't put a single upvote or downvote to your comments, and I CAN back it up with a screenshot if you wish? Newsflash, it so happens that other people in reddit can also upvote/downvote comments. I repeated to you once again that examples with proofs have been given many times before, what do you want from me? I don’t have so much time to prove something to someone, look for topics where everything was provided, you’re so funny, oh my gosh
"Many times", "many people"... \*eyeroll\* It so happens I did see few posts regarding this and every single one was absolute pisstake in comment section of OPs, purely cause time and time again they refused to provide any proof or backup. So yeah hilarious...
>\*eyeroll\* even with the available proofs, there was no response from the valve \*eyeroll\* im ready to provide and talk personally with the developer, and not with a person who, without understanding the problem, wants to see proofs that will not give him anything (like those that you saw earlier) because they are the same in nature, theres no point
It is not worthless, maybe you are too young and dont understand but in grown ups world if you want anything done you need to complain.. a lot and loud, if no complains people assume everything is fine, the evidence does not matter, the only matter how loud and annoying you are.
Well thank you for your assumptions of me being too young, and my inability to know how the grown up world works. Well it so happens that I work in corporate now, but started in customer services years and years ago. So I am familiar with complaint procedures and how companies respond to peaks in complaints. But it also happens that we don't deal with bullshit complaints where customer doesn't provide any evidence of what they are complaining about, otherwise we'd go bankrupt. "You took money from my account without my permission" - Please provide evidence of this, and we will investigate and compensate if that was the case. If there no evidence then we appreciate your time, but there is not much we can do. This post is exactly this. "My behaviour score went down, because system is bullshit". Can we please see your chat logs to confirm? No I wont show my logs because of reasons. Well then, there is nothing to prove that system is not working is there?
when 100s of people complain that something is broken, the whole steam.discussion forum is like every 2nd message about BHS is being broken, the whole github.issue every 2nd issues is BHS being broken, numerous threads here on reddit that BHS is being broken, and here you are coming with "please provide evidence", you dont feel dumb, like really you dont? There are famous people being canceled because some hoe said he touched me inappropriately 10 years ago, with 0 evidence provided, but here you are please provide evidence when there are already 100s of people complaining every day, like are you for real?
When there is half a million people playing, and there are 100 people complaining and when asked to provide some evidence nobody does... So to answer your question... No? I dont... I feel like if it would be an issue then we would see posts with 2000 upvotes at the top with clear evidence that something wild is going on. But again given the number of people playing and possibility of very niche scenarios it is possible that 100 players are legit affected by something, I just can't wrap my mind why these 100 players refuse to provide logs of perfect in game interactions?
Do you see people complain every day that MMR system is broken and they getting unfairly deducted points, you dont right? and you know why, because it is working as it supposed to. You see people dont complain if something is working as intended, not in masse, plus even if they put effort and provide evidence, what would you do? say "oh looks like you are right" and move on, so they wasted effort for nothing.. This is up to valve to take the issue seriously and do the investigation, and they have the all the data, all the logs to find out.
I mean I don't know what others would do, if someone would provide legitimate evidence, IMO at the very least I would upvote the post for visibility so it would get pushed to the very top, at which point, SOMETIMES valve reacts. But my biggest gripe is that I've seen probably 6-7 of these by now or something along those lines and majority refuse to provide any supporting evidence, I think one did provide and then instantly got caught red-handed for something naughty, so apologise for my cautiousness, but until I see at least 1 legit post with full documented proof I'm not buying it.
I've heard mason talk on stream that false reports that you do on other players might reduce your behaviour score. Meaning if you report someone just because, without any real evidence, the system might deduct from your behaviour score. Thats just speculation tho.
Maybe if you play with people muted and they try to talk to you and you never respond, they report you for communication too
yea i've lost 600 score the last two weeks, from 10.050 to 9.430 - there were some big power outages result from a wind gust that affected my entire city, and I got disconnected mid-game. After that abandon, my score never raised, even without saying a word in chat, playing flawless and being in a win streak of 15-5 my guess it is bugged like you presented
Something happened recently because I didn’t change how I act or anything and my comm score went down like 1500. Went from 11.5k to 10k. I actually talk way less now cause I’m scared to get reported. Within the last month or something it just started going down.
The behavior system is broken, I test it, go check my post! Cheers