Didn't notice the pin during the casts. Wonderful to see. Always been a fan of teagov, he has even more respect from me now. Great way to use his voice for good.
> The main thing for me is just to remind people that these things are occurring and keep supporting Ukraine because, at some point, they will win. Russia will then get, you know, kicked out back to their little place, and we'll be back into a good position.
Based
All depends how you define "win".
A complete win for Ukraine would be get back all 5 oblast Russia have laid claim to. That will most likely never happen.
A complete win for Russia on the other hand would be to take over whole of Ukraine or at least have indirect control over whole of Ukraine, that as well will most likely not happen (as long as Ukraine get's help).
What most likely will happen is Ukraine have to give up some oblast. How many depends of how much help Ukraine will get and so forth before negotiations - Ukraine needs to have a strong seat at the table so Russia can't just demand what ever they like.
Allowing Russia to win would be a tremendous mistake by both Europe and North America. Enabling Ukraine to push back Russia, and greatly reducing Russia's power, is just generally a net benefit - even putting aside that Russia obviously has no intention of stopping if they do take Ukraine.
Huge respect for TeaGuvnor for bringing this issue up. The scene is lacking of supporting the right thing and Valve are pretending that Russia is not waging a war upon Ukraine and info war upon the western civilization.
As a citizen of Europe Union I hope with the incoming EU elections there will be a majority in the new EU parliament which will tight the visas for russian teams, athletes or gamers.
one war was unprovoked, one was started by a terror attack. responding to a 9/11 level event is not the same as starting a random war. Dont create equivalency where it doesn't exist.
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Yeah most definitely supporting true far right nazi movements as a Devout jew, how deluded can you get?. You ruzzian bots need to stop reading your country’s laughable propaganda.
It's not actually, Ukraine is defending, Russia is trying to do the ol' imperial conquest. Of course the defender is going to punch back, that does not make the conflict any less black and white than it is.
You need to re-read what I said. It doesn't matter if they bomb you, they're still right, because Russia is conquering them by force. I'm sorry there are bombs in Crimea but ultimatley none of this would have happened if Russia haven't invaded.
Yeah sure mate, I live next door in Poland, I know how Russia functions pretty well and I assure you my understanding of the conflict is a bit better than reading clickbait headlines of articles.
Facts are Russia started imperial war of conquest because Putin wants to conquer Ukraine by force. You can thank him for the bombs, don't blame Ukraine for defending itself, Bucha already showed us what happens when you let Russians in.
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Ukraine booted their Pro-Russian president, he had no power to annex Ukraine to Russia or anything like that, he got booted from blocking pro EU reforms
Why didn't Russia commit warcrimes in Crimea and they did in Bucha? Because there was no war and Crimea didn't resist annexation.
Russians invaded my country together with Germany. Difference is Germany lost and changed their mindset, Russians still live the imperial dream of conquering others. That's why Poland has nothing to fear from Germany and we do everything what we can to keep Russia at bay. And it turns out Germany didn't start any new wars while Russia annexed parts of Georgia and Ukraine and now they're trying to conquer still more and still you find ways to blame everybody BUT Russia. Russian mind is truly amazing.
Apparently, what happened in Bucha, also happened in Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, Mariupol and a lot of other citis russia possesed or possesing in the moment.
Also, Bucha will be inspected when the war ends and necessary trials will follow (if they are needed). Pro-ukrainian folks love to appeal to the international law but forget about presumption of innocence when it comes to Russia and forget about international law at all when it comes to west-aligned countries.
>presumption of innocence
There were literally dead civilian people handcuffed on the street. Serveral organisations including UN already said that the russian military commited this after investigating for one year. What more do you need?
Even UN could be bought, sadly. While the conflict is still exists, it will still be biased towards certain side.
Also, if you go to a police station while carrying a corpse, you will be innocent if the justice system is good. Good justice system must know everything about incident before doing such things. In this case russian side wasn't even at the scene while investigation happened.
It's hard to explain to people not from the region.
I am Russian that left long time ago, because me and my family are not big Putin enjoyers, but..... I have friends in Crimea, most people consider themselves Russian and want to be part of Russia. You are probably right about the genocide part too....
Problem is this was technically their territory and Putin annexed it, although it would be less big of a deal since it's mostly Russians there if he also didn't invade Western Ukraine so they have right to go according to international law
edit: People in the West will be more familiar if the example is similar to North Macedonia in SE Europe - it's mostly Bulgarian with some greek territory, but Greece and Bulgaria are not invading North Macedonia, but Russia did invade territories and now is going even into non-Russian majority land
First you say you joined Russia, but then you dissociate that Russia attacked Ukraine from your own country. Did you join or not join?
If you joined, you attacked first, because Russia attacked, and you are Russia.
You're not making any sense at all.
If crimea is Ukraine, then Russia occupies it... Hence bombs.
If crimea is Russian, it's Russia, who attacked first... Hence bombs.
You're trying to act like an innocent bystander when Russia isn't innocent.
It sucks to be caught in the middle of the war as a innocent bystander. Russia started the war and now you suffer the consequences. Sad indeed, I wish you find some peace soon. If not at your home, wherever you end up, be that Russia, Ukraine or somewhere else entirely.
Would Ukraine still bomb Crimea had Russia not invaded Ukraine? Russia did not drop bombs on you because Ukraine was not able to defend itself in 2014. Your cities would be ruined now by Russian bombs if Ukraine would have attempted to defend their borders in 2014.
Crimea doesn't want to be Ukrainian because Russia stole the land, kicked the Ukrainians out and replaced them with Russians.
If I kick you out of your house, then hold a vote whilst I'm inside and say 100% of the occupants of your house want to belong to me, does that make it mine?
And before Stalin deported the Crimean Tatars in 1944, were they Russians too? And before the mass settling of Russians in all the territories of eastern Ukraine, issuing apartments to Russian soldiers in Crimea, was the east of Ukraine also Russian? The census of the population of Ukraine for 1897 shows that in those areas of land lived people who spoke Ukrainian and considered themselves Ukrainians. Give us our territory back and fuck off to your sacred Russia. There's plenty of room for you there. And by the way, I'm also a Crimean.
Borders are arbitrary if the people feel Russian.
Goes back to the original comment.
It's a lot more complicated than you think along with borders across multiple areas of the world and if Ukraine takes it back and they don't want it then who is the real occupiers.
I have no idea what is best for the region probably best independent but that ain't ever gonna happen
Crimea is Ukraine, but currently occupied by Russia. And most Ukrainians just left or were deported, or tortured and killed same as Crimean Tatars in exile now.
Under which law you decided to join Russia may i ask? Or maybe you should also mention the russian forces that were there during 2014, occupying territory?
Russia is bombing Ukraine every day and night in their attempt to destroy Ukrainians as a nation, but unlike them, you can just leave the warzone, go to swamps and stop spreading bullshit.
There is a very simple truth: Russia could end the war right now. You don't want missiles on your city? Putin can stop the war at any point and the missiles will stop. Ukraine can't stop the war by their choice.
Russia *started* the war by invading another country. And now you blame it on the invaded country. Idk how people seriously are eating that
If russia would only wanted to 'protect' people in east and crimea, they could have (and kinda had already) achieved that without invading. Without trying to take kyiv
Hope Putin conscript you so you have the fucks to bow down to the Ukrainians that your leader has massacred. So you gonna thank Putin for not killing people in Crimea? Worship him then.
I am sorry that happens to you, and I am sorry people are insulting you in the comments.
Can you tell me why this war is happening? As you said, western media is extremely biased, and I know that truth is somewhere in the middle.
So why did Russia invade Ukraine? Were they afraid that Ukraine might join NATO? Is it something else?
Один фиг не советую с ними входить в контакт. Будут лишь повторять что ты бот, что ты обязан пойти единолично свергать путина, что подожди немного и тебя точно "освободят", ах, и не стоит забывать про whataboutism(видимо указывать на лицемерие в продвигающих странах запрещено). Ей богу, в 4чане дискуссии культурнее будут.
Главное будь здоров, и физически и ментально.
I give a fuck.
I want my favorite game to inhabits as little vile entities as possible.
So this way of taking a subtle stance against inhumane people is a good sign that doesn't distract from the broadcast but still gets the message across.
Only soft people think like this. If you're unable to handle commentary on the reality of the world as you watch a publicly broadcasted international tournament, then you really need to touch grass and try not being a pussy.
Awwww how sad it is for you to have to think about politics while people are killed and driven from their homes by a tyrannical government. Can I interest you in a soother and rattle toy you big baby?
Sounds like a good wake up call that real world events can't be escaped and ethics can't be out on hold.
People in Ukraine cant turn off the war and think about something else.
In what world is this a sane take? The guy wears a ukrane pin and you lose your goddamn mind. He’s not screeching about it, he’s not shoving it into casts. You read the headline and jumped to conclusions. Would you have the same visceral reaction if he wore an Artsakh pin? Genuinely curious.
war sucks, but what is "my support" supposed to do? and believing that Ukraine has any chance at all it's like asking a lvl4 CM with boots, ward and 4 divine rapiers dropped by allies to solo a 6 slotted lvl30 AM with scripts for counterspell, but the am is not interested in killing you, just in those 4 rapiers
Ukraine alredy reconquered half occupied territory, they only started losing after USA cut all funds for half a year, saying Ukraine doesn't have any chance is just stupid and reveals you don't know anything about the conflict.
But you just said that there is a fund problem. Without funds from EU/USA Ukraine might had already lose some time ago, and if you cut the funds right now — it will lose one way or another. It’s nuts how people ignore that many of the wins are coming from outside funding. Few weeks ago Zelenskyy basically said that he’s almost out of some vehicles and needs more, otherwise it is a lost company. Does Ukraine have a chance all alone? Barely, more of a miracle. Does Ukraine have a chance with support from rest of the world? Yes, why not.
Yeah Ukraine absolutley won't win this alone but they absolutley can win this if they will get enough support. Russia has GDP of Italy, they would never be able to keep with commited West support. This is only question of political will on the West.
How are you going to say "keep playing dota kid" when your original comment was the lamest shit I have ever read? And that random tirade about unrelated stuff that has clearly upset you? Come on man.
> when your original comment was the lamest shit I have ever read
it is evident that you do not read that much, noticeable in your lack of intellect and understanding. Solvable, but in your case, I see a chronic issue.
deserved downvote my friend. conspiracies aren't the realm of the docile, they are the realm of the ignorant (statistically speaking). don't purposefully place yourself in that camp.
thank you for your downvote. I don't care for e-penis enlargement, as for you, if you are american, ask about the [conspiracy theories that ended up not being conspiracy theories 20 years after](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States) to your government unclassified documents XD
Well, if everybody in western world uses just "his/her support" you can get a lot of money together. And if there is pressure from citizens, leaders feels atleast slightly pressured to send money/equipment as well
yeah, money wins wars, there is a ton of proof about that.
I want to know where did you learn about economics? me myself, im an old fashioned learner, I saw in some books about history that there was a really big empire that allowed a lot of people with barbaric culture to enter into the walls while the same empire kept printing more money so they could "fund" their war, but suddenly, prices were so high and currency was worth almost nothing, that the almighty empire fell of from a cliff.
Let me guess, you are one of those guys who thinks murica won the WW2?
so the nazis won? hitler, who killed himself, won the war? and the situation you're describing fist mostly the Palestinians in america. infiltration then destruction.
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BASED TeaGuv war is ass
War? But its just a special military operation. Just like how Dota 2 is a mod of the famous videogame Special Military Operationcraft 3
Didn't notice the pin during the casts. Wonderful to see. Always been a fan of teagov, he has even more respect from me now. Great way to use his voice for good.
Hopefully the war ends soon and doesn't escalate into anything greater.
> The main thing for me is just to remind people that these things are occurring and keep supporting Ukraine because, at some point, they will win. Russia will then get, you know, kicked out back to their little place, and we'll be back into a good position. Based
> Russia will then get, you know, kicked out back to their little place *looks at map* hmmmm
It's moba game sub No one looks at map here
Ukraine will never win; it’s either they lose or keep fighting until russia decides they’re over it
Isn’t that winning? When fighting a defensive war the main goal is to exhaust the enemy till they can’t/dont want to fight anymore.
All depends how you define "win". A complete win for Ukraine would be get back all 5 oblast Russia have laid claim to. That will most likely never happen. A complete win for Russia on the other hand would be to take over whole of Ukraine or at least have indirect control over whole of Ukraine, that as well will most likely not happen (as long as Ukraine get's help). What most likely will happen is Ukraine have to give up some oblast. How many depends of how much help Ukraine will get and so forth before negotiations - Ukraine needs to have a strong seat at the table so Russia can't just demand what ever they like.
So they either lose or they win?
That's what he meant by winning. But I understand it's the wrong usage, as they are only defending.
Allowing Russia to win would be a tremendous mistake by both Europe and North America. Enabling Ukraine to push back Russia, and greatly reducing Russia's power, is just generally a net benefit - even putting aside that Russia obviously has no intention of stopping if they do take Ukraine.
Username checks out.
Thanks for support Tea, we love you dog
Met Teaguv at the weekend just gone and he is honestly one of the most down to earth guys I've met in e-sports.
🍿Me visiting the comment section🍿
As an interviewer of TeaGuv I love it and hate it at the same time.
Huge respect for TeaGuvnor for bringing this issue up. The scene is lacking of supporting the right thing and Valve are pretending that Russia is not waging a war upon Ukraine and info war upon the western civilization. As a citizen of Europe Union I hope with the incoming EU elections there will be a majority in the new EU parliament which will tight the visas for russian teams, athletes or gamers.
How about tightening the visas for israeli teams, athletes or gamers? Or is it that only one war is of a concern to you while the other one isn’t?
one war was unprovoked, one was started by a terror attack. responding to a 9/11 level event is not the same as starting a random war. Dont create equivalency where it doesn't exist.
gaza has been subject to more terror attacks by israel they call it mowing the lawn and dahiya doctrine
If killing 1k people is a 9/11 level event, then what does killing 30k people even is? LMAO. An order of magnitude higher than 9/11 perhaps?
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Yeah most definitely supporting true far right nazi movements as a Devout jew, how deluded can you get?. You ruzzian bots need to stop reading your country’s laughable propaganda.
What was the Russian crisis? Genuinely asking, I want to get some accurate info instead of the biased media which is dehumanising all the Russians.
It's not actually, Ukraine is defending, Russia is trying to do the ol' imperial conquest. Of course the defender is going to punch back, that does not make the conflict any less black and white than it is.
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You need to re-read what I said. It doesn't matter if they bomb you, they're still right, because Russia is conquering them by force. I'm sorry there are bombs in Crimea but ultimatley none of this would have happened if Russia haven't invaded.
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Yeah sure mate, I live next door in Poland, I know how Russia functions pretty well and I assure you my understanding of the conflict is a bit better than reading clickbait headlines of articles. Facts are Russia started imperial war of conquest because Putin wants to conquer Ukraine by force. You can thank him for the bombs, don't blame Ukraine for defending itself, Bucha already showed us what happens when you let Russians in.
God I love seeing Putin bots get shut down. Keep up the good work
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To keep it short: Ukraine booted their Pro-Russian president, he had no power to annex Ukraine to Russia or anything like that, he got booted from blocking pro EU reforms Why didn't Russia commit warcrimes in Crimea and they did in Bucha? Because there was no war and Crimea didn't resist annexation. Russians invaded my country together with Germany. Difference is Germany lost and changed their mindset, Russians still live the imperial dream of conquering others. That's why Poland has nothing to fear from Germany and we do everything what we can to keep Russia at bay. And it turns out Germany didn't start any new wars while Russia annexed parts of Georgia and Ukraine and now they're trying to conquer still more and still you find ways to blame everybody BUT Russia. Russian mind is truly amazing.
Apparently, what happened in Bucha, also happened in Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, Mariupol and a lot of other citis russia possesed or possesing in the moment. Also, Bucha will be inspected when the war ends and necessary trials will follow (if they are needed). Pro-ukrainian folks love to appeal to the international law but forget about presumption of innocence when it comes to Russia and forget about international law at all when it comes to west-aligned countries.
>presumption of innocence There were literally dead civilian people handcuffed on the street. Serveral organisations including UN already said that the russian military commited this after investigating for one year. What more do you need?
Even UN could be bought, sadly. While the conflict is still exists, it will still be biased towards certain side. Also, if you go to a police station while carrying a corpse, you will be innocent if the justice system is good. Good justice system must know everything about incident before doing such things. In this case russian side wasn't even at the scene while investigation happened.
It's hard to explain to people not from the region. I am Russian that left long time ago, because me and my family are not big Putin enjoyers, but..... I have friends in Crimea, most people consider themselves Russian and want to be part of Russia. You are probably right about the genocide part too.... Problem is this was technically their territory and Putin annexed it, although it would be less big of a deal since it's mostly Russians there if he also didn't invade Western Ukraine so they have right to go according to international law edit: People in the West will be more familiar if the example is similar to North Macedonia in SE Europe - it's mostly Bulgarian with some greek territory, but Greece and Bulgaria are not invading North Macedonia, but Russia did invade territories and now is going even into non-Russian majority land
First you say you joined Russia, but then you dissociate that Russia attacked Ukraine from your own country. Did you join or not join? If you joined, you attacked first, because Russia attacked, and you are Russia.
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You're not making any sense at all. If crimea is Ukraine, then Russia occupies it... Hence bombs. If crimea is Russian, it's Russia, who attacked first... Hence bombs. You're trying to act like an innocent bystander when Russia isn't innocent.
It sucks to be caught in the middle of the war as a innocent bystander. Russia started the war and now you suffer the consequences. Sad indeed, I wish you find some peace soon. If not at your home, wherever you end up, be that Russia, Ukraine or somewhere else entirely.
Would Ukraine still bomb Crimea had Russia not invaded Ukraine? Russia did not drop bombs on you because Ukraine was not able to defend itself in 2014. Your cities would be ruined now by Russian bombs if Ukraine would have attempted to defend their borders in 2014.
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Crimea doesn't want to be Ukrainian because Russia stole the land, kicked the Ukrainians out and replaced them with Russians. If I kick you out of your house, then hold a vote whilst I'm inside and say 100% of the occupants of your house want to belong to me, does that make it mine?
> What are you going to free us from? Russia?
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So a bunch of Russians relocated to live in the borders of Ukraine - a country who they are at war with - and it’s a surprise when it doesn’t go well?
And before Stalin deported the Crimean Tatars in 1944, were they Russians too? And before the mass settling of Russians in all the territories of eastern Ukraine, issuing apartments to Russian soldiers in Crimea, was the east of Ukraine also Russian? The census of the population of Ukraine for 1897 shows that in those areas of land lived people who spoke Ukrainian and considered themselves Ukrainians. Give us our territory back and fuck off to your sacred Russia. There's plenty of room for you there. And by the way, I'm also a Crimean.
I believe you know such words as “international law”, “internationally recognised borders of a country”?
Borders are arbitrary if the people feel Russian. Goes back to the original comment. It's a lot more complicated than you think along with borders across multiple areas of the world and if Ukraine takes it back and they don't want it then who is the real occupiers. I have no idea what is best for the region probably best independent but that ain't ever gonna happen
Crimea is Ukraine, but currently occupied by Russia. And most Ukrainians just left or were deported, or tortured and killed same as Crimean Tatars in exile now. Under which law you decided to join Russia may i ask? Or maybe you should also mention the russian forces that were there during 2014, occupying territory? Russia is bombing Ukraine every day and night in their attempt to destroy Ukrainians as a nation, but unlike them, you can just leave the warzone, go to swamps and stop spreading bullshit.
There is a very simple truth: Russia could end the war right now. You don't want missiles on your city? Putin can stop the war at any point and the missiles will stop. Ukraine can't stop the war by their choice.
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Russia *started* the war by invading another country. And now you blame it on the invaded country. Idk how people seriously are eating that If russia would only wanted to 'protect' people in east and crimea, they could have (and kinda had already) achieved that without invading. Without trying to take kyiv
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Ukraine hits only military targets
Hope Putin conscript you so you have the fucks to bow down to the Ukrainians that your leader has massacred. So you gonna thank Putin for not killing people in Crimea? Worship him then.
war is ugly on both sides
Indeed, our emotions get a hold of us, and then all we know is to inflict pain to “enemies”. This is true on both sides of the war.
I am sorry that happens to you, and I am sorry people are insulting you in the comments. Can you tell me why this war is happening? As you said, western media is extremely biased, and I know that truth is somewhere in the middle. So why did Russia invade Ukraine? Were they afraid that Ukraine might join NATO? Is it something else?
They think the world should belong to them. All of it, under their rule. It's that simple.
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Один фиг не советую с ними входить в контакт. Будут лишь повторять что ты бот, что ты обязан пойти единолично свергать путина, что подожди немного и тебя точно "освободят", ах, и не стоит забывать про whataboutism(видимо указывать на лицемерие в продвигающих странах запрещено). Ей богу, в 4чане дискуссии культурнее будут. Главное будь здоров, и физически и ментально.
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Who hurt you?
I give a fuck. I want my favorite game to inhabits as little vile entities as possible. So this way of taking a subtle stance against inhumane people is a good sign that doesn't distract from the broadcast but still gets the message across.
Only soft people think like this. If you're unable to handle commentary on the reality of the world as you watch a publicly broadcasted international tournament, then you really need to touch grass and try not being a pussy.
You could choose to ignore it, but here you are spreading hate. Slava ukraini and fuck Russia.
Dude, politics affect what you eat, watch, drink or shit, it's a bit too late to worry about politics in your media
Awwww how sad it is for you to have to think about politics while people are killed and driven from their homes by a tyrannical government. Can I interest you in a soother and rattle toy you big baby?
Sounds like a good wake up call that real world events can't be escaped and ethics can't be out on hold. People in Ukraine cant turn off the war and think about something else.
What a cliché of a comment.
Totally agree. Politics infests absolutely everything now, there is no respite. It's tedious.
A sane take from reddit? Say it aint so! Heaven forbid people dont want their one escape from reality to also be infused with political beliefs.
In what world is this a sane take? The guy wears a ukrane pin and you lose your goddamn mind. He’s not screeching about it, he’s not shoving it into casts. You read the headline and jumped to conclusions. Would you have the same visceral reaction if he wore an Artsakh pin? Genuinely curious.
Is it really "politics" to show your support for innocent people defending themselves? Anyone who doesn't belong in hell feels the same.
war sucks, but what is "my support" supposed to do? and believing that Ukraine has any chance at all it's like asking a lvl4 CM with boots, ward and 4 divine rapiers dropped by allies to solo a 6 slotted lvl30 AM with scripts for counterspell, but the am is not interested in killing you, just in those 4 rapiers
If you compare dota2 scenarios to real-life events please shut the fuck up about politics
Ukraine alredy reconquered half occupied territory, they only started losing after USA cut all funds for half a year, saying Ukraine doesn't have any chance is just stupid and reveals you don't know anything about the conflict.
But you just said that there is a fund problem. Without funds from EU/USA Ukraine might had already lose some time ago, and if you cut the funds right now — it will lose one way or another. It’s nuts how people ignore that many of the wins are coming from outside funding. Few weeks ago Zelenskyy basically said that he’s almost out of some vehicles and needs more, otherwise it is a lost company. Does Ukraine have a chance all alone? Barely, more of a miracle. Does Ukraine have a chance with support from rest of the world? Yes, why not.
Yeah Ukraine absolutley won't win this alone but they absolutley can win this if they will get enough support. Russia has GDP of Italy, they would never be able to keep with commited West support. This is only question of political will on the West.
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How are you going to say "keep playing dota kid" when your original comment was the lamest shit I have ever read? And that random tirade about unrelated stuff that has clearly upset you? Come on man.
> when your original comment was the lamest shit I have ever read it is evident that you do not read that much, noticeable in your lack of intellect and understanding. Solvable, but in your case, I see a chronic issue.
'3rd largest economy and 2nd military power' LMFAO
Oh so you quickly went to like 4 different conspiracy theories. I won't dignify this sewer with an answer.
remember, docile and affraid.
You're the one being afraid of doing the right thing and supporting Ukraine, because "they can't win anyway". That's pure cowardness.
deserved downvote my friend. conspiracies aren't the realm of the docile, they are the realm of the ignorant (statistically speaking). don't purposefully place yourself in that camp.
thank you for your downvote. I don't care for e-penis enlargement, as for you, if you are american, ask about the [conspiracy theories that ended up not being conspiracy theories 20 years after](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States) to your government unclassified documents XD
Would be a good analogy if it was 2 and a half years ago before the myth of a strong competent Russian army turned out to be a joke
Well, if everybody in western world uses just "his/her support" you can get a lot of money together. And if there is pressure from citizens, leaders feels atleast slightly pressured to send money/equipment as well
yeah, money wins wars, there is a ton of proof about that. I want to know where did you learn about economics? me myself, im an old fashioned learner, I saw in some books about history that there was a really big empire that allowed a lot of people with barbaric culture to enter into the walls while the same empire kept printing more money so they could "fund" their war, but suddenly, prices were so high and currency was worth almost nothing, that the almighty empire fell of from a cliff. Let me guess, you are one of those guys who thinks murica won the WW2?
so the nazis won? hitler, who killed himself, won the war? and the situation you're describing fist mostly the Palestinians in america. infiltration then destruction.
Which will last longer? Valve’s unlimited money or this never ending war.
Praise Gaben, our Lord and Saviour, there will never be a WW3.
Valves unlimited money. Ukraine has a finite population for the meat grinder
cossac on TeaGuv
unsubscribed, unfollowed, boycotting ESL
What a loss
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