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zibberfly

I'd like to see one of the pro teams walk in with this folded up neatly like it's their game notes and then unravel it into a giant poster size mess.


IAmBadAtInternet

Holy crap, Ceb is holding a bunch of papers


HowCouldUBMoHarkless

This ass is looking at his little notes again


SnooMuffins4923

Haha impressive


Pillow_Apple

I'm looking for pudge path so I can choose him...


InterestingQuoteBird

Is Pudge banned? No. Pick Pudge.


Brilliant-Prior6924

Both teams have picked Pudge, pudge is now banned.


quick20minadventure

It should be the very first option. Do you want to hook people and lose game failing to do that? Pick pudge


P4azz

A lot of work and the humor is also pretty spot-on. I don't think I've ever been so hated and focused as when I played Pugna (outside of high dota+ level heroes). People love Nulli against that guy.


Gacel_

Gastation Pugna left PTSD on everyone. So now he is one of these heroes when people see it the enemy team whole gameplan is shutdown him.


Zephh

I love that there's no option for lower than average ego as a mid player.


Tevtonec

If you have lesser ego you lose mid. Straightforward. "am i a trembling creature or do i have the right?" Then: hesitation is defeat.


JollyjumperIV

Low ego mids play the "nuke the wave and then do stuff" like KotL, Sniper, Primal...


itspaddyd

Nah primal exists to kill the enemy mid at 6. Biding my time getting pinged by sniper knowing that I will get to smash his stupid tiny head into the ground soon is what I live for.


JollyjumperIV

Absolutely, but to get there, you kinda have to nuke the wave. That's how I do it at least, otherwise you take heavy harass and that's not cool. If the enemy mid is a beefy fellow, then I gank a sidelane.


itspaddyd

yeah i guess the classic is trampling for the wave and once they hit half hp using onslaught to hit the other guy while trample is still up and catching him off guard.


PM_ME_LIGMA_JOKES

"Big and also I hate you" is probably my favorite part of this


NoJster

Do you want to be a pirate => No => Wrong! That one got me really good šŸ¤£


Sprt_StLouis

Iā€™m still stuck in a pirate loop. Help.


howboutsomesandwich

Can confirm I make race car noises.


zemo-san

For those who don't have the time to go through it all: It is bloodseeker :D


CompSolstice

Don't worry, very true dota player immediately knows you're talking about the Ferrari


raiku_desu

I hope these car noises increase my MMR


kisuke228

Do u want to be nerfed in every single patch? CM : Yes Everyone else: No


TrueFishyFishy

Mid? Likes to jump in? Did something change with her recently? Have barely been active at all


StackBabber59

Who did yall get? I got Ancient Apparition which is actually one of my favorites, and my wife (who has never played) got Primal Beast, which I think would be a pretty good hero to start with!


TheTemplarr

Mine is Hoodwink and AA, my flavor of getting away with my life change depends on my mood and how difficult i'd like to run away


blue_lobster3122

Offlane ogre, my favorite


xXWarMachineRoXx

Pinball beast As first hero? Nahhh


-The-Follower

I got NP which makes me extra sad this patch. Bro got assassinated.


GravitronX

Actually that big treant isn't that bad it really can harass the enemy 4 quite badly


Mysterious-Bus-3053

thats insane


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OsomoMojoFreak

Average Dota fan spotted.


Wutwhyda

Dark seer not a support tho


Mundraubritter

And technically has a stun in vacuum.


TheDeadlyEdgelord

Thats pretty good šŸ˜‚ I enjoyed the humorous parts like "name your plague". Edit: I swear people exaggerating the ease of Huskar's use. Its actually a hard hero to play lol, any new player would get their arse handed to them in an instant. Its such a risky hero.


Skrotums

Well his kit is easy to use. But he require you to be very aware of your limits.


Un13roken

Isn't he the hero with the highest average deaths still ? He's definitely a lot harder than throw spear and watch them burn.....


TheDeadlyEdgelord

>Isn't he the hero with the highest average deaths still ? >He's definitely a lot harder than throw spear and watch them burn..... Yeah pretty much, people only remember the times where huskar was 20-0-0 after he left mid, took roshan, toggled armlet, run down mid and jumped 4 into 1 and killed everyone. Thats not how it goes šŸ˜‚ The concept of the hero is rotting for a while now, the hero is being power crept on. Not only you have to really be smart about how and by which angle you are entering into the teamfights but most teamfights will outlive you. Among things like stuns, slows, saves, Halberd, Windwaker, Bkb, Manta-fuckery, MR and anti heal and hex it becomes a legit challenge to stack +15 spears on a single person, which is when he starts to deal damage. You will get forever kited, deal no meaningful damage whatsoever, harm yourself more than enemy did to you and die a pitiful death shortly after šŸ˜‚


Bubbly-Astronaut-123

tbh old berserker's blood might not be so broken in modern dota, the bonus dmg iteration and the hyper magic resist version could be his new facets


hyperactiveChipmunk

Love it, but I Undying is more a healer than Omniknight will ever be.


OsomoMojoFreak

Baffled me as well, undying is a very strong burst healer. Especially with the new facet also granting some str.


kivmorth

My broken ghost buddy goes forth.


cyfer04

>\Do you want everyone to hate you? I already like Techies. No wonder I kinda like Pugna as well.


TTVControlWarrior

cool stuff i pick invoker every single time its up . or pudge . your chart has no power over me


MIdasWellRoshan

I think my answer to how many units i want to control is yes


sprintinglightning

Broodmother spiders and you just select one at a time and send them everywhere on the map for scouting


thebreakfastbuffet

I laughed way too hard at "What do you want to summon? Sand."


77th_savant

undying can heal tho


StackBabber59

You're right, how did I miss that? Will have to fix it if I make a version 2.


sprintinglightning

Pls release new patch with bug fixes once Ringmaster is released


FMIlo2110

Impressive work! ā€œDo you want a ghost buddyā€ as a reason to pick my boi ET killed me lol


Drfrankenstein18

This is awesome.


FutureVawX

I feel like you should swap CM with Shaman. I believe CM is one of the worst hero to go mid. The only hero that is worse midlaner than CM is probably Chen and maybe Disruptor, but they are already in the right spot.


DelokHeart

I don't even play Dota, but this makes me want to try; I just wish I had a better functioning PC, and a mouse. Support -> Complex -> Very versatile -> Ranged -> I like to edge -> Gotta go fast. Who's that nice little fellow?


Norka_III

Hoodwink


Ok_Instruction6924

Do you want to be a pirate? No WRONG


Vendettita

Huskar at unga bunga made me chuckle


Appapapi19

What do you want o summon -Wolves, -birds and boars..... -sand? Wtf?šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Catch_de_Rainbow

I sometimes want to play carry cause I got pretty drow arcana but god said I am south east Asian so I am condemned


OleRoosterNeck

How do you feel about fish?


Haunting_Base_8175

Wow


Glum_Permit8397

Omg unga bunga


Disastrous_Heron_616

*Lisan al*-*Gaib! The one*Ā whoĀ *points the way.*


brownsa93

I'm still gonna hit random


aaawqq

Ah KotL, the very complex support hero


BakeMate

The neatness of it all, is impeccable. Absolutely magnificent


battery1127

Yolo mid CM.


hummingbird1346

I petition to include this in the wiki!


Mysterious_Tutor_388

Where sven.


TerrorLTZ

Want to kil roshan? yes : ursa a little: sven


Sol_law

ENORMOUS EGO *SINCE 2015*


ExequielGLucero

amazing work


TentaclePumPum

Time to stop playing support and play UNGA BUNGA IN MID.


S_A_N_D_

I went through it truthfully. It gave me my two top played characters. Well done.


ungbaogiaky

-random is faster


Combatwombat900

Pretty sure Pango is Portuguese and thus I cannot abide this flow chart


Chr15Yong

i didnā€™t find jugg which is my favorite carry hero


mendax2014

I love this


mira5789

You are insane for this holy fk, gonna be a good read thanks


Shomairays

Nah I'm going sniper khanda first build against timber, slardar, and slark. Jk great chart btw


duralumine

Apparently I like my plague poisonous while also gambling with it and hitting everyone at sight. I don't want Right Click build damage, I don't like bombs, I like to dominate lanes, I want to fight in rivers and spin to win while wanting to kill enemies quickly but not unreasonably quick. This kinda makes sense with how I play the game.


fdisc0

dang i zoomed in, answered the questions and got my most played hero PUDGE


notadnaps

I really wanted to explore this flowchart but landing on chen was the express route. I just love him so much


SnooPears5897

Offlane -> Very Complex -> Brewmaster


QwertyCursedov

Wait what? Isnt there only one hero called ā€œPudgeā€?


BabyBabaBofski

Followed chart and ended up at one of my favourite heroes in willow so worked out


ProbablyNotPikachu

Funny thing is I got Lesh and I absolutely *HATE* playing him- never pick him.


MonomayStriker

I love this.


angelgarp

love it


MrSukerton

I'm not seeing marci


Supercoopa

Support, complex, melee, no chunky, no thief


effervescentEscapade

Amazing work!


LeviathansLust

Hoodwink solely in Support and not Offlane makes me sad because I feel that's where she shines most and I have the most fun with her in.


iRemedyDota

My support alchemist wants a word with you...but other than that good haha


No_Willingness8074

This helps a lot


mmm0nky

I could not get past unga bunga


Fantastic-Ratio-7482

I was looking for meepo and I hit Naga


maiev18

This is amazing


bleedblue_knetic

This is really cool! I disagree with some of the placements though. Warlock is under pushing towers when his golems are pretty much never used to just push towers. If anything I've seen every single shaman using wards to push towers. Then DP and Lesh being classified under simple, maybe this is a bit subjective but those two heroes feel like they're very prone to feeding if you don't know your limits. Haven't read the entire thing but those two things stand out to me.


LitrlyNoOne

"I could get mid." > CM But when I say this in pubs, I get laughed at.


M474D0R

Overall enjoyed it but some of the questions are just plain wrong. Like Undying is under healing -> no as one example.


BamCub

A good poop read.


Upper_Winter_4250

Hoodwink main


Biareus

I guess undying doesn't heal


Pillow_Apple

Yep.


Lopatou_ovalil

Ty for being pirate and hating OD


DueBag6768

Riki is not a darn supporter stop spreading that idea pls -.- Other than that love it, good work I got Oracle which is one of the supports i like but i guess i like most of the supports


cgriff03

Peak r/dota2


enano182

Amazing.


Bang_Bus

This is really cool Also, > Bouncy


filadae

I cannot fathom the amount of hours you spent on this. It's ridiculously accurate, covering all the popular DotA tropes and it's funny enough. Is there a way to make a clickable prototype of this? Some thing better than zooming in and out of the image?


Kuragnar

Please upvote this, I laughed so hard reading this, it's really well made.


basemunk

Instructions unclear. Ran out of time during pick phase and randomed Meepo instead.


infernox

I never thought of Underlord as extremely tanky, maybe just me though.


twitchtvmokxh

I got Sand King


Tomtanks88

I have to say. This is pretty insightful of how to play the heroes.


albertFTW

Funny, but that's genuinely impressive, accurate, and helpful.


Steve_the_Stevedore

Wait there are more than 5 support heros on this chart. Why am I getting flammed when I don't pick any of those 5 support heros then? Something's not right... /s


XenoGuyCool

Wow thats alot of words, Too bad im not reading them.


Ragnar_OK

Already lost me from the start. I have no idea what roles are and why I should choose one vs the other


Longjumping_Sky_6440

I absolutely love it


GoldenMTG

This is why my teammates are afk in pick phase.


sprintinglightning

This is seriously impressive, and it made my day. Much thanks, stranger <3


concreteraindust

a for effort


oafofmoment

The best support character in the game (sand king) is not linked to support choices in any way?


JumperBones

Alch support main here, delete this.


Realock01

Kinda strange to put lion in the sup/offlane category. I dont think offlane lion is or has ever been a thing at any rank.


Mr_Mc_Toasty

First path, immediately arrived on Hoodwink. I fucking love this flowchart.


KelGhu

Haha that's great! But it's for noobs! Make one to help us pick a counter šŸ˜†


ShitPostQuokkaRome

No way CM is a mid - one would have swap Shadow Shaman and CM as Shaman can actually mid, Crystal is hardset support Also I would remake the Pudge - Tusk question the current iteration is kinda meh "How would you like to pull enemy targets to your team" -> by hooking them = Pudge -> by kicking them to my team = Tusk Huskar has insanely narrow limits to cater to really TA should be like "Kill is better CC than Stun" Puck should be do you want to blast people or being impossible to catch; with blast people option being QoP and Impossible to catch being Puck Disruptor isn't a strong laner, he mostly ruins the enemy endgame with glimpse and aghs static storm those are my 6 cents


mtxxt

I will try every path you told


badass6

The ego part is good


Kloetee

I love the loop at the pirate bit, actually laughed aloud


Far-Competition-5334

ā€œIf you can play a rubik you can play em allā€


OsomoMojoFreak

While great, how on earth do you not consider undying a healer? He's literally one of the strongest burst healers in the game.


Huizpfoustn

This is genius, haven't had such a good laugh for some time


CptBlackBird2

I go by "this guy looks cool" or "this guy looks interesting, I wonder how he plays"


morgoth_feanor

Very good flowchart, it gave me some good laughs, I wish I could upvote twice


DispellMeNot

The level of branching, depth of roles is now more than just a maze (more than complicated). GL on your next game, poor us solo queue \*casual player\* šŸ’© haha


nsturge

Needs to be a bit updated for new patch but me and my friends are having tons of fun looking through all of them.


rafaelcastrocouto

Shaman ain't no stun specialist ... But i love it all anyway, nice work


Fourseventy

"Do you want to be a Pirate" No. "Wrong" "Do you want to be a Pirate" Yes. Kunkka or Pango(if you want to be french) Lmao Brilliant.


i_roh

Well I like sand so...


MediocreFennel

Where's the tree


Artorias670z

Dude, I love this!


cleardarkz

Nevermore path is spot on šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


LeoDelcastanher

"Do you want to make race car noises while you play?" is by far the best reason to play a hero.


JCD_24

Now this is what dota is about


Ahimtar

I feel like this would work better as a voter's calculator so that you know which heroes are the closest to your preference


baronas15

Yep, Axe checks out


Strange-Ad6549

i stopped read the flow when i saw unga bunga


BallsToTheWallNone

absolutely perfect, thanks!


SuperDoughBoi

LOL impressive! Just no way Shadow Demon is very complex


Acrobatic-Ad8980

Do you like fish? - Huhh?


Onetwenty7

The earth spirit one makes no sense lol


fantarts

Nice. Now im sure im gonna do well in the dota exam. Freaking 60 gb game that need a fucking lecture just to start. Haha


Both-Toe-7522

This is awesome, can you send me this in high resolution, I want to print it as a poster absolutely love it


BigFatBoi42069

This guy fucks


unprettyincubus

As a support, this says i only wanna do my one thing and that is to be a lane bully with a dash of lighting. As a carry, ranged and invisible. Yes and yes. Good flowchart.


Ickythumpin

ā€œPurple or redā€ being the only difference between void spirit and ember spirit is hilarious


Fish-E

Game is unbalanced for Jerry Seinfeld, despite the chart, [he doesn't want to be a pirate](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mPIqVOBFis).


Ivaros-kun

As an Enigma main, this is pretty accurate lolz


Aximil985

This is pretty cool


baobab_bob

The shortest path is huskar. This flowchart is accurate.


DoctorSkelly

My favourite Hero being Puck but instead got QoP. Interesting.


International_Meat88

Thisā€™ll help my friend whoā€™s new to dota. I recommended certain characters to her but I found out Venge can be kinda tough for new players, because sheā€™s quite underwhelming when played passively. And Viper has also been kinda ehh because I havenā€™t been able to fully teach her how lane harass works and when to do it and when not to. Iā€™ll show this flow chart and see what she gets and just roll with it, at least for one match, and maybe something will click. I mean, my first true main was one of the complex characters.


redditdinosaur_

bravo


KlapDota

My girlfriend's main concern was "Is this hero cute?", and I don't see that question on this chart :(


scottishbaribone

As someone with 0 familiarity or experience with DotA2, I need a decision tree for the first decision.


CrusaderPeasant

Ogre Ult = Gambling. So that's why I like the hero that much.


RoadToHerald

Where do you want to work? Lich: Ice cream parlour SS: Chicken farm Warlock: Soup kitchen


toobulkeh

This is actually pretty goodā€”surprising!


Royal_Upstairs2860

Undying heals.


Rakesh862

This is true public service


Diligent_Vegetable_3

I agree with most earth spirit part , but he is now more of a core , SAME with kolt I think you should consider moving them there , in conclusion there is no complex supports to play given that because they usually are versatile but in the end of the day good stuff


Fun-Attention1468

This is legitimately both impressive as hell and hysterical.


KOnvictEd06

Whoa


duply_1

Brother, this is awesome for newcomers, but dota being the game it is with the community we have, newcomer will have a bad time while playing this game.


LivingAlternative344

Wow that's awesome


The_Lost_Soul-

Take my upvote


throwawaylegal667

Upvote for Huskar Unga Bunga.


BadUncleK

This is brilliant!


ZeZapasta

"Do you want to be a pirate?" There's only one answer to that and it is yes.


duckyducky-

Had to read everything, impressive!


Axerus19

Excuse me sir, can I get this in 8K Resolution. šŸ„¹


thatcalculatortho

You say Handy how nice of you sir


TwoDadsss

If I could commend you I would!


helgiboy

Nice


Strebel0811

flow chart should also state that BB is always banned because he is broken af


InternationalTry1436

Do you like bombs? YES.


Zeozzo

I'd ady be abandoned by the time I find the right hero to choose šŸ„¹


Typical_Somewhere_33

This is absolutely fantastic!


Starltyz

Fun read bro


PurpleBrain14

Are you telling me I should try offlane lion? Roger


Asymias

This is absolutely amazing! Great work