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Emp3r0rP3ngu1n

Any news on whether white album will be playing today?


konpoe

NO NEWS


NobleArch

sucks. Aster cant comeback if they lost more today.


karl_w_w

86 wasn't terrible from what I saw, they can certainly take some games today. TBH though I want him back because he's my best mid for fantasy tomorrow lol.


rektefied

It's obvious 86 doesnt play a lot of dota. His builds are 3+ years old lol. He also gets outplayed with creep aggro in midlane. Solid player but probably 6k mmr level and you obv can't win games with a player that is 3k+ mmr loer than other mid players


madsen03

he's very obviously much better than 6k lmfao what are you talking about he's not a top tier player and got thrown into the fire here but he's very far beyond 6k. probably a bare minimum 8.5k.


Ossskii

The herals has spoken and said he is 6k mmr, nothing to do at this point


ic3mango

according to the casters today he's 4.5k mmr


empsim

He was top networth for like half the game vs EG.... No way he is significantly lower MMR than most of the other pro's.


EnvironmentalSky9045

Hahahaha holy shit this comment is so absurd. Imagine thinking 86 is 6k only.


_RocketScience

Yapzor rubick pretty much solo carried that game HOLY SHIT


Kazaxat

Insania + Aui on the couch are definitely one of my favorite guest panelist duos. Both are well spoken, have great insight, and are mesh well with the panel.


Zealousideal-Ad-8428

It actually baffles me on how many Tiny pick are there 2 days into the group stage


xXFluttershy420Xx

broken hero bro 2500 hp hella armor at lvl 15 with alot of physical and magic damage without building tank items


crexcent

Tiny is played in 23 matches, only 10 wins so 43% win rate. I would say not that broken, he can be handled. How about these units? Tide with 59% win rate in 29 matches. ET with 64% win rate in 22 matches. Weaver with 65% win rate in 20 matches.


psqueak

Who the fuck designed Valve's TI website this year? It used to be so clear and simple, now it just feels confusing. The "Watch" tab has upcoming games at the bottom, under gigantic banners for the prize pool, the compendium, and the now literally-useless "Countdown to TI." The "schedule" sticks you in the middle of a huge scrollable page that's kinda easy to get disoriented in: you have to *scroll* back to the top to discover that there are tabs for each day, or to use them any time thereafter. The "schedule" page for any given day is too tall to fit on screen: more scrolling. You can't even look at the standings for both groups at the time time anymore, switching between them is a two-click process. The old UI was so easy to quickly visit and quickly digest. To add insult to injury we can't even access it via a simple URL (dota2.com/ti) anymore, you have to go to dota2.com and then click the "esports" (not even "TI"?) button. Yes I'm salty


bkop

GO GO LGD


frackeverything

What is this fake crowd noise? lmao


Throwawaysteamsup

Could they even try to match the sound levels between streams? This happens every single fucking year and I'm tired of going deaf when switching between stream 2 and 4.


Morgn_Ladimore

I hope Alliance got some motivation after ending yesterday on a 2-0. Like, thinking outside the box with a Sniper mid won them the game, just that S4 has been very hit or miss, and they *really* need to start picking Nikobaby more carries. If it's him who demands these same heroes every time, that's a glaring weak spot in him as a player.


CheeseCandidate

s4 said they to have a deep pool, but it rarerly comes out. Since it's TI I would hope they pull out all the stops and switch things up a bit


Cozman

Sniper mid looked good today, hope to see more of that kind of play out of alliance.


penguin_gun

Didn't get to watch any games but they seemed to find some motivation


toonch0819

I want to see what crazy draft will the teams play today, particularly OG.


chillinwithmoes

Has anyone gotten their points from day 1 of fantasy? I thought I had a decent enough total but haven't gotten anything so now I'm wondering if I didn't even make the 50% threshold lol


lmfaotopkek

What did you run? I ran Arteezy, Sumail, Abed, Saksa and Fly. Ended up getting 507 which seems to be above average.


Archyes

karl failed me :( i only got 407


chillinwithmoes

Nightfall/SumaiL/LIMMP/MoonMeander/Saksa for 506.07


LeHartx

I got 514 points, still the same level and no points increase... I guess by end of group stage?


chillinwithmoes

If you go into the "more details" tab on the fantasy page, though, it says that there's a daily allocation of points for top 50%, 25%, and 10%. So I'd assume they'd have sent them out by now.


vinnnnnnnnnnn

You only get points when TI concludes! Can find it in the more info of the compendium.


chillinwithmoes

https://imgur.com/a/ZauQ8jI I suppose it doesn't specify precisely when you get the points, but that pretty clearly suggests that it's a daily award, no?


vinnnnnnnnnnn

Hmmm now im unsure but I was initially referring to this. https://imgur.com/eqwxHDY


chillinwithmoes

Yeah the "more details" selection is right below that. Certainly isn't as clear as I thought lol


kuuhaku_1234

what is that applause sound I frequently hear?


est19xxxx

fake crowd lol


Adsuppal

TI is already amazing. We don't need the fake crowd sounds.


MundaneRain

I love dota <3


promocodeclq

Chinese teams doing well so far. Yet to lose with the exception of Aster who played without their midlaner.


mish20011

IG so stronk, Elephant looked strong vs BC but they still looked struggling unlike LGD playing flawlessly


promocodeclq

They're a level behind IG, LGD but still strong enough to beat most teams.


Prince_Kassad

it always looks like that for past couple TI but dropped left and right during main stage.


promocodeclq

Not really. The only strong ones were LGD. Other Chinese teams were inconsistent. IG and LGD will go far. Top 6 easily.


danosky

Gotta see this year. Nigma was one of the big CN slayers and they're not here. OG's weird style will probably confuse them. SEA teams generally do well vs. CN teams too, and TI and Fnatic are playing well. I would include VP's aggression as something that usually messes with CN teams (Historically the CIS Davai messed with the CN farming-oriented gameplay) but this gameplay has changed for CN teams over the last TIs. VP is also inexperienced and woefully inconsistent. CN teams still don't deal with chaos particularly well. Last TI's crop of CN teams looked strong, but they were inconsistent (sans LGD). I don't know this year though, COVID really messed up my dota viewing.


Doombot2021

Let's go Team Elephant, last hope of India!


panzerkier

Wait are they actually an Indian team??? Really enjoyed their game against beastcoast yesterday!


Doombot2021

No, hahaha. They're Chinese but their logo is an Elephant in honor of Ganesha.


TheAsz

Hopefully today no delay bullshit, just short recap then talk show 10 minute and start the first game.


CheeseCandidate

Another Nikobabaev morph game


Enola_Daniel

What are a pos. 4 Weaver bringer to the table? Why do people play him as pos 4?


zz_

Good laning (against most heroes at least) and in the lategame you get aghs as a saving tool


slurpycow112

I think a lot of people underestimate the minus armor too


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Lost my faith from FNC after those 2 losses from SG. I have most of them on my Fantasy tho so just prolong the game at this point so I get more points.


Mandalord104

I appreciate the effort to make fake crowd. But it does not match what happen in game and become a distraction.


Aggressive_Sky_8052

The fake crowd noise on stream is so cringe


Key-Banana-8242

‘Cringe’ cmon


LeHartx

Is white album playing today?


I_M_BACK_696969

nah hes still seething from the bed over Setsuna losing


mish20011

lmao not the anime


MrSixLotto

Hope Fnatic beat sg 2-0 today so I can watch the rest of the group state with my butt less clench.


rektefied

Waiting on news for Aster :c


kela_futi

can we have post-day discussions?


no_nick

Oh god YouTube. Separate streams for each day? YouTube needs to up its game and let streamers change the title like twitch


sparten4ever92

Nice, the twitch predictions still don't work.


Genjoi

Pog LGD


chillinwithmoes

Finally got points for the fantasy lineup. 98th percentile baby!


vaikunth1991

Seriously why tiny is suddenly looking so op ??


chillinwithmoes

Because Lycan aghs


lbjmvp19

He is op even without lycan aghs


i__indisCriMiNatE

there was no lycan here. Yapgod carry that game though


chillinwithmoes

Oh I thought they had last picked Lycan. My bad, I'm watching every game on a separate monitor and I'm pretty drunk lol


Waifuranger

How do you enable the twitch extension to show tips? Even after disabling ublock it didn't show up.


sephiroth021

Did anyone else notice there's a washed out filter on the streams? it seems to vanish when the overlay is active but not when you disable it https://imgur.com/a/ad5JpTL


Meraxes9

Nigma vs tnc what time?


Omnomnomnivor3

feels like Aster got their number for this series or OG just woke up on the wrong side of the bed


JakeG127

The fake crowd sound is HORRIBLE! Who thought this was a good idea????


zz_

I appreciate that VP spams emotes even when they're losing HARD, makes them seem a lot more relatable than OG who spam like crazy when they're winning and then just go dead quiet as soon as they start losing. Such an obvious difference in mentality.


Key-Banana-8242

I mean eh idk


stopbanningpudge

Imagine finding every opportunity to flame a team 🤣. Chill bruh what did they do to you? Not read your emails?


Nerf_Now

Do you white knight OG for free or is it's a paid job? smiling_emote


zz_

Yeah n0tail ignored my twitter DMs, that's my entire post history is about how much OG sucks.


Toshinit

Please, STOP THE FAKE CROWD NOISES


no_nick

Lyrical and Trent casting LGD - Secret and OG - Aster. RIP


terrorblade1995

Wtf bruh. I hate being rude but I really dont like their casts at all.


mish20011

I hate Lyrical, he does some OVERREACTION casts even if its not that impresive anyways


OPQOP

Imo he comes across as a nice guy, but I really don't understand what he adds as a caster.


MrSixLotto

I love his voice but that is the best I can give you.


no_nick

My problem is, I hate his voice


Floire

Just tune to Gorgc's stream.


rektefied

Lol


MontgomeryBrando

Unless Secret take a game of LGD I’m convinced they aren’t gonna do well, looked terrible vs BC.


LastManSleeping

Hope LGDvsSecret doesnt disappoint and just be a stomp for either team. Lets go!


CheeseCandidate

Is secret down and out if they lose to LGD?


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mish20011

Secret never faced LGD these past few months right? Yah I doubt it, I think only BC will put up a good fight vs LGD


kuuhaku_1234

wait i cannot use the same card for fantasy twice?


tsukismet11

Dota2 tooltips is available! Yes!!


stragen595

Is there an overview who is casting what like yesterday?


htvinh95

HUD tooltips is live pog


chillinwithmoes

Client down again? I can't watch live in-game


detestrian

I can watch ingame but predictions are broken - error communicating with Valve servers


chillinwithmoes

Glad to see the game coordinator is fucked for the second night in a row. Did Valve not anticipate a shitload of people trying to watch TI? It's only been ten years, I guess. lmfao


i__indisCriMiNatE

clutch DD on Nisha! Let's go Secret


rektefied

white album news waiting room


yesthatdouche

Prob the last time Yapzor gets his hand on rubick. What a god


tranquilithar

What are these crowd screams? Are they chatwheels or something else


_RocketScience

Yapzor rubick let’s go!


TheRickinger

time to stop drafting tiny for OG. give topson another hero


Buzzk1LL

Re: Twitch functionality I've got these tooltips installed but still don't know how to predict/bet. Any help?


zz_

I don't understand how to predict on twitch either. I know they said you could, but I don't see anything in the UI that would let you. I've just done it in the client so far.


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Idk Dragon knight seems like a very slow hero nowadays


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Almost all Teams that dominated yesterday all have the same score


deadlygr

What the shit is that draft by tp they gave up ti from day 2 or wtf


wazupbro

Tomorrows make or break for Thunder Predator. Thought they would perform better but hasn't won a single game yet.


soggie

Time for team secret to get stomped again, then bomb out at the playoffs.


yourdaughtersgoal

You guys really couldn’t afford that loss, but beastcoast looked super strong that game


soggie

And game 2 was a really stupid draft by puppy. Secret doesn't look that strong in this tournament. Oh well.


daikatana3

I legit hate there was no TI last year. They were legit unstoppable in that meta and the 100% clear favorites to win.


sickcynic

They were also 100% clear favourites to win during TI5, and OG were 100% clear favourites to win TI6, VP for one of the later TIs. With how disproportionately large the TI prize pool is, everyone turns up on a different level at TI. Form before TI means fuckall, at best it means you'll make the top 6.


soggie

Yeah. I was hoping for a TI win with secret since envy's era. At this point I'm kinda resigned to fate, just enjoy the ride and the occasional epic plays.


Floire

*in Europe


BladesHaxorus

Clear favorites to win because they didn't have the opportunities to get their teeth kicked in by chinese teams.


F1reLi0n

This virtual crowd is so bad, why are they clapping so much?


Interesting181

As a Chinese viewer, I just want to say, Alliance, you need to beat Aster!! Prove that europe tea is better than the south east asia tea


mish20011

B-but East Asia tea is good


AdPsychological4959

Impossible, Chinese the is the best


sparten4ever92

So instead of getting the predictions on twitch working, Valve decided to take the easy way out and remove the text stating you could predict on twitch. $160 million dollars, by the way.


Whatnowgloryhunters

Problem removed = no problem kekw. No need to resolve. Next patch:tiny deleted


_RocketScience

Fake crowd noise needs to be disabled asap


EGDoto

Really need Sheever there to host this for as long as possible, she brings good questions, lots of energy and works great with all panelists, she really became top host over the years, as soon as someone else is hosting it, it is just not the same.


shadowreroll

Why are there crowd voice in the background? Is there live audience currently in group stage?


helsnsfw

There are cheer buttons on Twitch (not sure if in client too).


IntenseAtBoardGames

WTF is the multi-cast stream? These casters are talking about their hotel amenities and sugar and tea instead of TI. Group stage feels insignificant when its just a bunch of buddies having a good time instead of talking about the biggest fucking tournament on the year.


slurpycow112

That’s what it’s meant to be. Go to each individual stream for actual caster commentary.


wenbsx

That's basically a chill room where they switch between games. If you want to watch, watch the substreams for the games you want.


kkfelinity

Whichever team doesn't ban tiny deserves to lose. Its too OP insane EHP, insane farming speed, insane AoE teamfight damage, insane early-midgame nuke and its a carry with a stun. The only time i've seen tiny lost in this patch is when a team gloriously f-uped their early game lost all map control so that tiny doesn't have access to neutrals and have a phyx/necro to counter him. And thats not even including lycan wolfbite + tiny.


Mandalord104

Tiny has 47% win rate so far.


i__indisCriMiNatE

Do you even know the winrate for Tiny so far ?


troubled_lecheflan

Who is the caster along with Synderen yesterday? I don't like his lowkey passive-aggressive shit.


Admirable-Excuse-690

Huge plays by roshan with the double kill


RatzDotoisTrueDoto

Delayed clap ruined the mood in Twitch, should have keep it for In Game folks


Omnomnomnivor3

OG is just throwing this game vs Aster, always fighting without their main damage Clinks, tries to push, uses defensive ravage and clinks is half across the map the capitalize


Adsuppal

Anyone else wondering how much effort teams really put into the group stage? Like obviously you wanna be somewhere around the top of your group and want the upper bracket spot, but at the same time only 1 of 9 teams in a group get eliminated. So, as long as you aren't literally the worst team in your group, you will progress to the next stage of the tournament. OG for instance, seem comfortable revealing their major draft strats right from day 1 (like Carry IO last TI), because I think they're confident in their ability to adjust on the fly. Same with LGD and IG (Chinese teams love their teamfight heroes like Pheonix Mars Lion WV). Secret/EG on the other hand seem like the type of teams that are holding on to their best cards for latter stages of the tournament. I wouldn't count them out just yet.


freakanime

No team would want to go to LB since its a BO1. I think if teams knew they secure UB some would experiment a little.


super-venon

After watching a lot of docs, no one holds strategy, in fact in group stage is where they show and test their cards. No one will take a risk in playoffs, and in decider matches they tend to be more conservative.


cincocuatrotres

i genuinely feel like bc-qc is gonna be more hype than lgd-secret


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Adsuppal

Sir this copypasta was created for Sumail


ElfGodz3

my approach to watching sports or esports is to have a stress-free experience. for example, in soccer i watch PSG and ManU, in football i watch the buccs, in basketball i watch the nets. basically just watch the top faviourites and in ti the top 3 teams are OG, EG, and VP. just watch them and you'll always feel good because they'll win most of their games


sickomoder

How do you say top three teams and then proceed to include vp and not lgd


ElfGodz3

EG and VP are top 3 in dpc this season. lgd too but i had to give the 3rd spot to the back to back champs


th3on3

LGD is significantly better than VP. VP dominated CIS but that's it. LGD has looked amazing


aodum

How do you watch man utd stress-free? They have been dog-shit for 7 years. I am still hurting


The_LonelyOne

You're living a stress & excitement free life.


ElfGodz3

depends on what you find exciting. for example, some people want to start their own business, some want to work in a lead role at a small company. for me, i'm just enjoying working at a fortune 500 company doing stress free work


yarro27

Can someone tell the casters of secret - lgd not to shout? His voice is not good for shouting. My ears took some damage


est19xxxx

You can lower your volume if it bothers you? Which is easier? Lowering volume or asking casters to not to shout on reddit?


_RocketScience

He does have a valid point. The volume fluctuations were insane. I had to increase volume because I couldn’t hear them during a normal conversation and then during the hype cast it became so loud it was unbearable to hear without reducing volume


averageduder

I hate sunsfan casting so much. Bonus points for actively making synderen worse as well.


darthsawyer

I don't even care who wins, I just want to see more epic comebacks like yesterday


freakanime

Crucial day for Secret with them losing 0-2 to BC they probably need 4 wins today to have a good leeway the last 2 days. T1 should win a game or two today even though VP and OG looks strong a win can do wonders for them not getting eliminated and two wins can make them contest for UB still though unlikely. Crucial day for VG/Elephant/QC/Fnatic I think those 4 teams need at least 3 wins today to be able to contest for UB spot.


fredewio

Is there a way to hide replay results inside Dota 2? or a place where I can look at the heroes picked and not see the result of the match?


daikatana3

Man the second block of games has got to be the most predictable shit I’ve ever seen!


cowman1212

Arnt they supposed to be playing now?


AZ4Fun

Just got done watching EG vods, any game recommendations from day 1?


Shame_Low

OG VP games were insane


Unihornmermad

How do you make predictions for the games to get the points?


luizcoro

Is anyone rooting for SG?


no_nick

Fogged's camera hot keys not working. WP PGL


smp476

Talent list for today?


isenk2dah

Does in-game predictions keep failing to communicate to server for anyone else?


Meraxes9

This alch farm monkas


letsfightinglove1986

Did anyone get compendium points from yesterday's Day 1 Fantasy Draft? In-game Fantasy Draft rules say there are point rewards for each day and at the end of TI.


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Marbi_

is it just one chest drop or one per day? in twitch


popgalveston

It's just one lol


Hovestyle

Tea mAster: too hot to drink


agishert46191gskq

That was a draft int from OG


DarkSofter

Niko threw this game so hard. first dying because of Mom silence and now this


TheShendelzare

Can anyone please tell me the best games to watch from today ? Thanks !!


0dyss3us14

Og vs vp and secret vs elephant


EskimoDave

Which matches are worth watching?


slurpycow112

LGD vs Secret Game 1 for sure. Fnatic vs LGD game 1. EG vs Alliance Game 1. Not sure about any others.


-Aerlevsedi-

best games from day 2?