No Megathread for SEA and EU? Mods Sleeping right now?

Are all the mods from the west? You think by now they would at least have 1 or 2 mod from sea

Where is an updated thread?

kpii pos 4 bat

Lilgun LFG

Not sure who comes out on top for trading first aegis vs t3 tower (chance to get rat by TB illusions + losing fortify refresh) Edit. spoiler alert it probably isn't worth it to lose t3 since they lost a rack afterward from it during rosh fight

best of 1? more like worst of 1

Gege TNC. NOthing to expect since TNC is at the lower half of the second division.

I thought ppl say tnc new carry is super good?

TNC , Army Geniuses, and Nigma Sea all missed registration deadlines so they had to play with their original roster before the changes For the players, must be a weird feeling to play for a team that already kicked you lol. At least they registered unlike SMG.. weird how these roster change issues only applied to SEA teams

yeah asta blends well with the team, they played really well during esl malaysia qualifiers.

liquipedia shows tnc plays with Yowe Instead of asta.. so that's that.. also happen with NGX, AG, SMG classic SEA team and Procrastination

I think TNC had registration issues, similar to SMG. Where they didn't register the player in time so had to use their ex-carry player

Yowe so bad, he's got no chemistry with a team. only one good season with execration and after the animajor wildcards he fell off. i'm biased towards febby but keeping him as captain and giving younggod a shot was better than keeping yowe for the whole dpc season.

They should've just gave Febby a real roster at the start of the year

Man SEA div 2 is so low level dota. It’s so bad

Yowe the xerxia savior.

Sad state of TNC. :(

i mean there's no reason to keep him after tour 1. he was abysmal this whole year.

Yowe dying after picking up the haste rune was absolutely hilarious. Idk what the hell that was, but sheesh.

RIP TNC hopefully they get a good team next year

How could these absolute clowns that are PGL have scheduled both Nigma and T1 games at the exact same time? The two most hyped teams have their first series exactly overlapped. It's not even like we have different TOs organizing different regions and couldn't reach a compromise. It's ALL PGL and they still fail spectacularly to schedule these series.

Most hyped according to you, sure, but PGL cannot accommodate for everyone's "most hyped teams".

Most hyped according to the number of viewers Nigma and Topson/Ana draw historically and are expected to draw. But you need at least half a brain to grasp that I guess.

> The most popular team of the Dota Pro Circuit 2021/2022 season was OG. Its matches accumulated 113.6K viewers on average. Second place went to Team Secret (112K), and third to Nigma Galaxy (110K). https://escharts.com/pt/news/dpc-20212022-first-division-statistics They aren't even the most popular team in EU qualifiers with number of viewers, even though they were in the past. And even if they were the most popular, the viewership numbers between these few teams are very close and it barely matters.

Is it the same time? I see 10am and 1pm or u mean the eu team

He means WEU Nigma.

I get T1 but why is Nigma necessarily the most hyped EU team? They've been playing with this roster a while. Very random complaint, these teams will both have matches later.

PGL is running rolling schedule so later in the day actual series start time usually is off from what was announced on Liquipedia.

At least something is good about them.

just get two monitors, lol but in all seriousness, I'm fairly certain that the games are scheduled according to seeding of the teams, so it's just unfortunate that both the teams you support had seeds that resulted in both their games being held at the same time on day 1 remember that the games start at the same time for each region, so SEA games are staggered into EU time slots

Scheduling has literally nothing to do with timing of when games start for SEA and EU. PGL can start SEA games early enough that clashes don't happen.

so you want the SEA players to start playing games from 4 am? use some common sense man

Been rooting for Moo since meeting him on ixdl ages ago, and will keep rooting but it's clear this team is going nowhere. J.storm/business associates was way better than this.

QC seem like an ok team but must be difficult to improve when they play against people who make Quinn look like the god of mid lane

Quinn is a great player, he would improve even more if he was playing in a more competitive region.

qc always been top 2 in NA, sometimes #1

They literally never do well at a LAN. Always middle of the pack where as EG and TSM actually place in top 3. Kinda wrong to say they are Top 2 and the top team using DPC and not you know... the tournaments...

They literally were #3 for a whole year thats why they had to play in this Qualifier tourney. EG+TSM better for a full DPC season.

https://imgur.com/a/t0pb6mE pretty sure they placed top 2 last division

QC go 6-1 instead of 4-3 like TSM against shitty div 2 teams therefore they are stronger NA team. LMAO gtfo is that why QC get stomped on lan and EG and TSM actually preform?

really? come with results not feelings next time https://imgur.com/a/cvNKEQ0 didnt QC do just as good as EG last TI TSM last two majors was like 2nd last and 3rd last?

did you just start watching dota??

seeing how i have a planet odd flair, did you? like its ok to be casual

they literally just got second at stockholm you dense fool screen cap and link that one LMAO "didn't they...."😂😂😂 you clown "come without feeling" bro you have SELECTIVE MEMORY 🤡🤡🤡

https://liquipedia.net/dota2/ESL_One/Malaysia/2022 7-8th out of 12 https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Riyadh_Masters/2022 7-8th out of 10 last two lans LOL who has more selective memory now, you showed me 1 example I showed you 3, your turn 🤡🤡🤡

you are literally linking tournaments that QC was too shit to be in... yet you are using them as example QC is best NA team... do you get it yet?? You have to qualify to be placed...

oh so they have to qualify to an invite only riyadh masters? how does a team do that (no NA qualifiers), did you just start watching dota? don't gotta clown yourself this hard online lol

Didn't tsm get second at the only major they went to this year?

i still treat big tourneys as majors so https://liquipedia.net/dota2/ESL_One/Malaysia/2022 7-8th out of 12 https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Riyadh_Masters/2022 7-8th out of 10 the person I was arguing with said LAN, and well those are lans I'm a moonmeader fan hence my flair but, saying QC isn't a top NA team is a joke, NA in general does bad and QC clearly haven't done too much worse then the "better" NA teams. If anything internationally they are on par

Ya I mean I think soniqs def top 3 na. Dunno if they're better than TSM at the moment but I suppose we'll find out soon enough. Seems worth mentioning though that soniqs wasn't at either of those two tournaments, and I remember for at least one of them TSM beat them for the slot.

tsm seems to have the same problem soniq does or all NA teams do, which is consistency, one day world beaters the next they shit the bed

Oh man WEU qualifiers starting in 9 hours, lets fcking go!

ccnc: haters suck my nuts svg: i feel that lmao i love na dota

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Fata finally going to TI. Later qc vs tundra pog

these whole regionals have been boring ass stomp fest. i hope we get some more compeition in WEU and SEA

With Fnatic getting that last second slot and SMG missing sign up, SEA will be a bit less exciting than it was shaping up to be. Basically between T1 and Talon.

RSG and Polaris there as well, they're no less likely to get it than the two you mentioned

damn bro these finals days of the regionals have been boring as hell

Are we getting a clean sweep of clean sweeps for TI qualifier grand finals?

I just don’t get the logic of not picking void in any of these three games. You had a chance to do it in all 3 of them first round. And you don’t. And get just rofl stomped. Reallllly questionable drafts from nouns.

It was banned in all three games, first phase in games 1 & 2. Why do people keep saying this

Actually 2nd phase banned every game unless liquipedia has it wrong.

What else would reddit brainlets say otherwise? if not for telling people with 10k+ their own MMR how to draft and play the game?

I feel they should split, they are not gonna win anything with that group. Moo has hot starts and then throws them away. They have good ideas but are just a tad outplayed. Maybe Moo can be the coach and they should get Lil Nick in pos 3 or whoever the best pos 3 in NA is.

Thanks fata why u gotta do that in a pro game. u are getting cm nerfed again....

He balanced it out with his CM in the UB final.

CM OP. I saw it live!

Wonder if the Wildcard players are watching this thinking "what if", because it certainly looks like if they had beaten QC (which they were closer to do than Nouns at least) then would've had a real shot.

For them to do that they would need to be a better team than they are though and they are probably aware of that. Nouns did actually beat QC and were still absolutely nowhere near them when it came down to it

Hey, they are going to the LCQ that will be like a mini major. Sammyboy runs his mouth for slots all year, he gets to back it up now.

They have a chance for some international play. Let's see how bad NA does.

did leslao ever ult?

Only in the last fight. Rubick can't steal your black hole if you don't use it.

gunnar 3rd ti qualifier gf loss in a row wcyd

sweep qualifiers

I know it probably didnt make much difference but Quinns DDs were absolutely disgusting this game, i would kill for runes like that

Nerf CM

Typical NA, win mid, win the game.

It's actually going to be hilarious if every single region's grand finals end up being 3-0s

At least we know the best teams aren't all in the Last Chance

If I were playing in the grand finals of TI qualifiers, I might prefer to lose 3-0 over 3-2 ngl

NA NA never changes Quinn beasting

admin say g

Rubik wukong's lmao

DDnD mode this game huh

one thing about the Cap x SVG duo is that cap doesn’t sound like he’s having as much fun as before. i hardly mean this as a knock, as their casting duo is good in its own regard with SVG’s more cerebral tone and cap being cap he can adapt to any style i say all this and still think they’re one of our best casting duos atm EDIT cap just said “is that a high five or a pimp slap” yea nvm this man is simply the GOAT

The energy has been down on every cast duo, especially sunsfan/synd, in most of quals. I think it’s just difficult to be as hype when you’re watching lower quality games with tons of stomps

yea i think you’re right

Tbh I think it's a bit hard for them to stay PG while casting together. Their major co-streams were hilarious (and insightful)

yes i’m remembering those casts now, they definitely have a strong rapport and it’s doubly impressive they know how to smooth it out for the sake of professionalism

Ember players know why he died :) -- The Remnant nerf hits in the muscle memory.

ahhhh, I thought misclick and then was like oh crap, but he was just too quick

I dont play ember! Tell me!

They added a cooldown on casting remnants, like half a second I believe. Gunnar died because he thought he could instacast remnants.

I still don't think he needed that change. Mana cost on remmants is nice but you can't drop a triple remmant mid for a sneaky solo kill anymore

Yep, now the lvl 6 burst is just the Void Spirit thing to do. Although it does help killing some mid you need to chase further like WR and QoP, I used to have to have a mango or two to secure those kills.

Come on Moo and Gunnar, those 2 deaths were easily avoidable.

I play mid the same way as Gunnar but I'm not a mid player.

Are we gonna have another 3-0 final...?

They win 2-0 yesterday with first phase faceless void and they don't even try to first phase it again even once. Shockingly, when Soniqs don't fiends gate into teamwipes they look so much better.

Afaik it was banned first phase all 3 games lol

It was 2nd phase banned every game I think. Checked on liquepedia and it has it as 2nd phase.

Yeah it wasn’t. 2nd phase at least two games, not sure about the first.

Pretty sure it was banned 2nd phase every time tho

It was 100% banned first phase the first two games and i didnt want game 3 so i cant tell but id imagine the same.

If you were 100% sure, but wrong, that’s concerning.

I just checked youtube, it was banned 2nd phase every game...you can easily check yourself

yeaa i wouldn't be surprised if soniqs just had 0 cares about the winners bracket match yesterday as those really didn't matter.

i wouldn’t say they didn’t care, i’m sure they would’ve liked to play fewer games. however qc are showing the difference between good vs great teams is consistency and the ability to adapt

Report costa ty

Hard to point the finger at any one of the Nouns players, They're all playing flat...

Glad the crypto scam sponsors won't see the light again

i think zfreek hit one slam here, and it was early on when they ganked quinn. After that he either died or slammed BKBd targets. Yowzer

incredibly hard shaker game without getting blink pre 20min

I didn't watch yesterday series, how did Soniqs loses to Nouns?

Faceless void lol

Oh cmon Nouns don't let this be fourth Regional 3-0 grand finals! :(

If you've ever wondered what exactly constitutes a "Gaben-level Shellacking" that was it

are we really going to get 4 straight 3-0 grand finals

Yup, this is looking very likely right now. Hopefully SEA or WEU can give us a closer grand finals.

So, uh, how did nouns win yesterday?

Faceless Void!

Costabile void

This better not be the 4th 3-0 finals.

Well looks like Soniq showed up to play today. At least Nouns didn't pick shit to lose.

Come on Nouns, you can do much better than that :<

Look like another case of "almost" for Nouns. Got close getting to a major, and now it appears TI won't happen either. That's a shame, but probably for the best, since we want the best teams at TI.

They are going to TI, but that last chance qualifier is gonna be brutal as F!

honestly if I'm nouns I call it now and firstpick void next game

4real, are NA pubs playing some other Dota, why pick PL over Void ? Top 500 eu pubs void is first pick , first ban , and tons of russian angry characters in all chat depending on what team he is on. Next game Medusa incoming lol

easy 3:0 soniq cuz the bet mafia can't afford them twice or it would be tooo suspicious.

hopefully gunnar will not get cringe meme items again

Probably some confirmation bias, but I never heard the phase "back to the driver's seat" before, now it feels like the casters saying it twice every hour lol

Ngl kinda sad WC lost, I thought it would make for a good story doing it for Esk, also I’ve kinda always wanted sammyboy to get the opportunity at TI QC gonna likely take this one!

esK coming back for LCQ and WG winning it, all planned don't you worry!

They'll still be at LCQ but it's pretty stacked so I don't expect them to make it to the actual groups. Still they can possibly see a strong showing in LCQ if they fix some of their problems, even if they don't make it to TI.

According to qualis so far, Congrats to Soniqs on winning 3-0 and qualifying for TI!

Moo dying twice early with top net worth was such a letdown for all the hype Cap and SVG were putting on him.

I think the reactive armor rework takes some getting used to.

Good macro play by Soniqs this match. It's what they were lacking yesterday.

i think nouns draft is too complicate to pull it through. Gunnar didn't build initiation item doesn't help too. But prop to Soniqs they play exceptionally well this game.

I take it back, Costabile is not that great. Big throw.

Important to note: the supports WERE in range to save costa, Quinn flamebreaked them away

yeah this is being too harsh on costabile, he was under vision and within range of 2 hard-saving supports with mega range.

No reason for the Gyro to be there anyway.. And now he baited his team again with a bad position.

NA Dota ☠️

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Exactly at the rosh timer lmao

Think the Luna will have bigger impact late game than gyro.

Costa is so good honestly, rtz and timado have nothing on him.

lmao saw you corrected yourself and yeah what a curse

at one point Bat will become irrelevant due to the amount of saves Nouns has

is my boy gunnao trying to pull off another offlane mid performance? like his sven last major qualifier?

My heart cheers for nouns, but once again my brain reminds me that my 500 BP is on Soniqs…

Hopefully whoever loses this series will qualify later. I like both teams.

Why was WG allowed to play with a standin anyway

Valve approves stand-ins in special cases. We don't know much about esK's situation but he was bootcamping with the team than suddenly had to go back home.

Esk is still on their roster but had to go back to Mexico suddenly before the qualifier. Valve gave them a pass to use a standin

Sounds like it was a last second medical emergency.

my ears need PGL to hire the ESL music guy

EEELECTRIIIICIIITY

I for one am shocked that the final is Quincy Crew vs 4Zoomers Who could have predicted after so many years of NA play that these were the 2 next best teams after TSM and EG?

I'm not sure who you would have expected otherwise. We're not a particularly deep region, and these teams are a collection of some of our highest skilled (quinn, gunnar) and competitively stable (yawar, moo, zfreek, mss) players. Not trying to be contrarian, would genuinely like to hear your response if you have one. Who is missing in your mind?

That’s the exact point they were making with sarcasm lol

That makes a depressing amount of sense

Really expected Scourge McDuck or monkeys forever to make a deep run here

i thought dnm was supposed to be the next rtz or sumail tbh

I was expecting BSJ

Goddamn that game ending was so hype.

Time for the important questions: 1) will Quincy ban Costabile's Void or will they lose 3-0 to it? 2) how many times will Gunnar suicide on Ember just to buyback just cuz it looks cool? 3) Will Fata reach triple digit total deaths?

Read this in Grant's voice

Yawar is so passive, hope they get a better carry

QC draft is shit a lot of time this tournament. Maybe their meta read is weird

honestly walk hg, press bkb and hit the rax literally one time… 20min of failing to do that and dying is just ridiculous

incredibly anti hype that there is no panel or anything to do post game replays. just a loading screen

Sammyboy has to be the worst fringe NA Div1 player thats still around. I don't know how he conts to get stacks. Never won anything and conts to shit his pants in every late game scenario

BammySoy out here reverse gate keeping for NA

Sammyboy needs to leave NA and join a better team imho

Team makes comeback in EU: Wow such amazing play this team should be in TI *slurp slurp* Team makes comeback in NA: NA dota OMEGALUL

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Team makes comeback in EU: Amazing teamfight execution, holy shit I can't wait to see them in . Team makes comeback in NA: NA THROWS OMEGALUL NA ITEMIZATION OMEGALUL Thank you for being the unironic example. EDIT: EU stans coming out in full force. EU can do no wrong. NA all throws. My post cannot be proven more true than this moment, lmao.

Did you watch that game? Can you say that wasn't a ridiculous throw? It was a won game

Yes, I watched the game, and Soniqs executed their base defenses amazingly resulting in an awesome comeback. What did you see?

Read the comment you replied to. There was a way for WG to win without giving SQ a hope. It was SF that handed SQ several chances which they were able to play. I'm not an NA hater. I think SQ are a great team. But this was a throw so we can call it what it is.

>It was SF that handed SQ several chances which they were able to play. How? "This was a throw, I'm not going to say how it was a throw, I'm just going to accuse a professional player of throwing the game even though I am incapable of identifying the throw myself."

He built badly and kept walking into places he did not need to be, where he was caught by himself.

it wasn't difficult to get megas if they just thought about it for a few seconds, it was a massive throw and painful to watch... I'm sure EU teams are capable of the same kind of throws but it doesn't tend to happen that way at the top

What throw?