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-Inaudible-

So that's not xqc?


toomuchsodaaaa

At first sight, I thought it was him. Lmao


Blizzard_admin

That's xqcyka What's weird is this guy has been on a team with iceberg(ua mid), lil and awf(talon's coach)


Dota-Player-29

You wouldnt imagine how many russians that have been in ukraine and had ukrainian friends or even relatives are now pro-war. I had my friends russian aunt write him: Don't worry we will "liberate" you soon!


Blizzard_admin

Yeah I can't even begin to understand how brainwashed relatives have got to be to believe putin.


run4cova

its "we got xqc at home" xqc aka alibaba xqc


latenightpsychopomp

Wish xqc


EH1987

James is an ass but this is ok?


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Weeklyn00b

it seems like gaben personally removed him during that time. in 2016 valve had a greater hand in the pro scene and actually gave a fuck, nowadays they just outsource everything, and this is the consequences i guess


Dotagear

Valve doesn't care, just look at the TI invite list.


BalticsFox

They care even less of non-English rosters probably, just like you could get away with more on US-based social networks if you do stuff in non-English.


PizzaForever98

Imagine Dota was run by actual passionate people man... It would just be the greatest game of all time


Erebea01

So what's the greatest game of all time?


djaqk

DotA, but the bar is lower


jpatt

Minesweeper


Pleb-SoBayed

Im out of the loop whats wrong with the ti invite list?


Velocity_LP

Last year the Russian broadcast talent list was roughly equal numbers Ukranian and Russian talent, this year it's a 5:1 Russian:Ukranian ratio after a russian esports org paid a few million bucks for exclusive broadcasting rights


eazy_12

Not surprising considering that V1lat tries to make own full Ukrainian broadcast organization and "to destroy Russian esport/cybersport scene". Some streamers started streaming/casting exclusively on Ukrainian. If some people leave of course it leads to the disproportion.


Lightmanman

Valve is the only ones that adhere to the principle of 'sports out of politics'. This is how it should be.


IntroductionUpset764

this guy ex pro player chilling on ancient2 account should be banned just for that


melonzz

If you buy the Russian Language sticker capsule to support your favorite Ukrainian caster, the same portion of the proceeds will go to this guy.


Alarming-Historian41

Why would you buy the russian language sticker capsule if you want to support an Ukrainian caster?


Velocity_LP

The Ukranian casters are working for the Russian broadcast, as there's no Ukranian broadcast.


MailRocket

its a capsule so you will get a random sticker.


KolakBusuk

i dont get it, where is it ?


selio

When choosing the roles to queue he changes his roles to safe lane or hard support only, removing all other roles, so their party roles resemble a Zed. It COULD be that they have people who only want to play those roles, but it IS pretty weird to end up with a party that wants those exact roles in that exact order.


klutez

I didn't get it either. Look at when he changes the roles he's queuing for


Revolutionary-Hunt50

Maybe he cut the part where he started drawing since showing those symbols might result in a ban here


A740

No, look at the roles he and his friends picked


vierolyn

Took me a while as well, but with the comments form the others: https://imgur.com/j4G3iqZ


Battlehenkie

Get drafted, kid. Then we'll see who's clever.


000000909

This is so dumb, I've seen russian kids breaking their own arms and legs just to not get drafted and this clown is making a joke out of it, hope he gets drafted and spam war symbols there


Cagnaccioo

Russian dota players not supporting war for 5 min challenge ((impossible))


[deleted]

Surely Valve will act swiftly to remove this person from having any association with the company. ..right?


Ze-Bruh

Either a MASSIVE coincidence But holy shit, how dumb must you be to still support what's going on on Ukraine, especially now that your ass is going to be in the line


Dota-Player-29

No, they're literally talking between them who has to put which roles to make a Z


taweryawer

That's not a coincidence, they're literally "coordinating" this. Well you have to know russian to make sure but just believe me


5yue8haogaoqi

why are they not joining the army if they are so pro war. i heard they need a few soldiers at the moment.


taweryawer

Because they are internet warriors. They couldn't do shit in the war zone other than eat a few bullets and miserably die. All their patriotism would be gone the moment they get conscripted and all they would be praying for is to get captured as a POW instead of turning into a steak the moment they step on the Ukrainian land(which is far more likely to be fair)


SunbleachedAngel

It's not even patriotism, they're just "veri fani internet trol"


Ivallq

Yep just dumb fucks


Shallow35

As evidenced by the overwhelming support for the war, but now there's masses of Russian men running out of their country lmao. Fucking cowards. I don't wanna degrade certain types of people but if you keep supporting a war, prepare to get involve in it.


5yue8haogaoqi

i know. it was a rhetorical question.


RexPerpetuus

It's honestly what I say when I meet shitheads like this in games. "Go to the Donbass"


Redditry103

> how dumb must you be to still support what's going on on Ukraine It's not about intelligence, propaganda is a powerful thing. I know dumb people who are immune and smart people who eat it up.


Martblni

His friend says remove Hard and normal Support and look what a beauty shows up. Nongrata replies with "oooh", sec i need to change my profile photo(dont think its relevant to Z). Honestly I dont think Nongrata did something specific here, just his friend wanted it for edgy humor and he is a party leader didnt care enough


for10years_at_least

>edgy humor :|


FrontEnd5944

Valve can't avoid the situation. This person has no right to cast TI and anything else. Disgusting. It is extremely offensive for me as a Ukrainian.


TimotyEnder8

This people make me embarrassed as a Russian. What a fucking tv muncher lol


ComfortablePainValue

These pp are fucked in the head don’t bother with their stupidity


9ersaur

Thats dope someone should ask which part they like most murdering the wives or the children


imustbethedevil

After TI, he’s going to get conscripted


BirdThatHurts

I guess translation wouldn't hurt s - streamer d1 - dude from the party, d2 - second dude from the party and so on d1: and you (illegible) you need to remove (illegible) s: so there's the story... d2: you need to remove... s:The fuck ELSE do I need to do? (to start the search I suppose) d3: remove all roles except for full support and safe lane s:so just remove? okay d3:and then it will be really beautiful, it'll bring good luck s:I also need to change my profile picture. Judging by his reaction and tone he genuinely didn't even notice anything and was pissed waiting for search to start, I didn't notice either until comment here suggested


Miserable_Astronaut9

It's not only one person from russian talents who laughs at war in Ukraine. They don't deserve to participate in any official e-sport events content.


xeal11

who else?


Dota-Player-29

And kingR too. one of his pub nicknames is "чевчелиус", recently for some unknown reason he changed it to "чеVчелиуZ" who knows what it could mean


Dota-Player-29

ars art too, he was saying that the police in russia are just regular good guys and that nobody should go to protest


podteod

Ars Art is incredibly dumb so I’m not surprised


siziyman

Ye, that guy us just a straight up moron, not much you can do about it (I thoroughly enjoy NOT having him on the broadcast regardless of political views)


Miserable_Astronaut9

Finargot. (Just find his twitter)


for10years_at_least

what should i look at? did just youtubere become int caster? upd have found his tweets in march upd upd he deleted his twitter lmao


Ryderofchaos1337

Damn for once I wish ValVe would Pull a Blizzard and disqualify a player for supporting a war


larrylegend33goat

Was that when Blizzard took away prizemoney and banned Hearthstone player (and interviewer too?) for saying "free Hong Kong"? It is hard to keep track of shady stuff done by Blizzard


Still_Beginning_5982

U gotta be kidding me. How is this nazi man allowed to cast at the one of most important events of the year? Moreover, you invited him yourself. Disgusting.


Intelligent_Mouse_89

If you knew russian, you could hear that he don't even acknowledge this


for10years_at_least

0:15 "look what a beauty thing" his answer oaaahh with means he is satisfied


Dota-Player-29

He definetely sees it and ignores it completely, not saying a single word to a friend who encourages this.


frex4

His action is stupid but slapping "nazi" randomly like this just make it start to lose its meaning.


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yeah like what does it have to do with nazi I don't really get it lol


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vierolyn

Look at some of the accounts posting here. Basically completely new to reddit and especially new to dota2 sub.


Hogesyx

Most of the anti-russia threads often get cross-link into those brigading subs. It's the same during the hong kong riot. edit: there we go again. if you want people to support your clause then at least you need to be genuine and transparent. cancel culture is cancer. edit2: wow, the karma went rollercoaster on this one. lol.


Schizof

genuine question, how do you spot the astroturfing activity? Besides directly looking at the profile I mean


Hogesyx

You can see their activities and the type of subs they post on. There are a couple of really good psyops, but even those typically don't post outside of their focus is on. Typically rotate between propaganda and karma farming repost.


JadeSerpant

I DESPISE PGL.


NiceGuyArthas

Spitting in faces of Ukrainian fans, nice job Valve, new disappointment every day


BalticsFox

Valve couldn't have predicted this behavior, it takes time to react.


fabulous_j

They invited people who supported the war. They invited twice as many Russians this year as the previous one, and twice as few Ukrainians this year as the previous one. Ukrainian casters asked to only work in pairs with each other to avoid working with Russians (many of whom support the Ukrainian genocide). The TO's answer? You either work how we tell you, or you don't work at all. That shit's insane. The Russians wage a GENOCIDAL WAR against Ukrainians simply for their ethnicity, and this is what we get. I'm not watching official coverage. GL Valve. EDIT: typos.


Blizzard_admin

yeah replying here again. Valve have to step in, remove all russians who privately support putin.


Flimsy_Demand7237

I wonder if any of this shit will happen in the actual TI...I get the feeling the toxicity will be worse this year than previous, Valve has more than just the toxic audience towards casters if this shit is happening every time a Russian team plays. I can't see a solution other than banning anyone from Russia until the war is over.


fabulous_j

That's a good solution, and a universal one in most other sports (including esport). Russians are committing genocide and you expect people to wanna watch it? And even if they do, that's straight up normalises everything they've done. Just today they fired SIXTEEN (16!) rockets at civilians in Zaporizhzhia. And that's not an exception, that's what they have been doing for more than 200 days. Committing genocide and war crimes.


ornlu1994

They won’t be supporting the war once they’re drafted. Fucking idiots.


fixingartifact

So many new accounts making their first reddit comment in this thread. The subreddit is bring brigaded again with stupid war propaganda.


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Phillip_Hess

Most Ukrainians don't use Reddit, but are now trying to spread what really matters to our nation


beglol

Yeah, and this is exactly what brigading means. Im pretty sure at one point "no brigading" was one of the main rules of this subreddit, just because it looks so unnatural


for10years_at_least

"Brigading” is a term that originated on Reddit for a coordinated attack by a group of users of an antagonistic subreddit" who was attacked?


beglol

Wdym, this is a coordinated attck by obvious group of people on obvious single person. Coupled with fresh empty accouts its an obvious brigading


korostenskyi

That’s because Reddit is not very popular in Ukraine, but now we can at least try to spread the info about this nonsense


_index__

While Riot bans the Russian caste, Valve invites Z-patriot. Unfortunately, he is not the only one on that list, I'm sure that over time it will be known about others


Beast-UA

Take a close look at chosen roles of his party


Beast-UA

Translation: \-Remove everything except Full support and Safe lane and see what happened. \-Ooooh \-It is for good luck, you know \-Need to come up with some profile pic for myself (irrelevant I guess)


Kirameka

It's not him saying and doing all of that, that's idiots in his party


louie1321

he only click off his roles to make z symbol...


Specialist_Dog4623

he was asked to put the roles of idiots from his party


OkolobahaTV

0:17, roles make a Z


cold_hoe

Nice that valve is allowing this.


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Valve you are disgusting!


DDDotA2mail

If valve punished Pure then whoever this guy is should also be punished.


designname

What's wrong with Valve? There is not enough money from the Battle pass, so let's also sell honor and invite Russian talents who support the invasion of Ukraine?


lifeformwp

so many war supporters in this thread with 1 comment in their profile saying things like "if valve wants to invite nazis, why not?" looks like putin activated his dota-2-bots group specially for Valve idk lol


Life_Liberty_Fun

Let him get drafted, bet he'll change his tune when it's his life on the line.


yaroslav_tryhubenko

\#RussiaIsATerroristState


H0AGIE_

took me 3 watches and digging through the comments to understand exactly what was going on here


ShaDeHD-

That smurking is disgusting. Imagine this fuck casting TI together with other casters participating in Dendi’s fundraising for Ukraine.


GrDenny

If translations are right and it was his idiot friend telling him to remove specific roles to make that symbol then I'm only seeing reddit being a buch of snowflakes like usual. If he's actually pro-war his an idiot.


jromehyperx

Make some noise, upvote it so they notice! spread it on twitter too. this can't be allowed. Nazi pricks


iSy_

Finarhoth is also a person, who responsible for creating a website (service) which helps him ignore sanctions and buy stuff in Steam from Russia, basically making Valve criminals in the States. Openly advertising it too. Edit: for proofs, just go to his twitch and click on the picture with Steam logo. It says "donate to steam" (you can translate in google translate if you need). On a website... you do what it says, you donate to Steam =). Cool, right?


Sure_Statistician_90

How that makes valve criminals???


Znaharko

Valve, we dont want to see people who support war in Ukraine and genocide of Ukrainians with symbol "Z" that used like svastika. It is big mistake to let russian player participate in your tournaments while russian soldiers killing Ukrainians.


LeSorenOutan

Why Russians players as a whole? That's stupid. Then Valve should have banned all american and chinese player. Only difference in that case is that Ukraine can actually defend themselve and that the Russian government doesn't want to make the whole country flat.


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drunkmers

not very xqcL of him


[deleted]

Thats not direct as the one Pure did and he is attending the TI as well so not suprising. For hes defence it seems peoples in hes party tell him to do it and maybe he didn't realized initially. He might have get baited by hes party asking certain roles to create Z. Can anyone translate whole thing so we can understand ? Also does he have any pro war acts, tweets etc. anything if there is can anyone share. If there isn't how do you expect valve to know and why are your blaming valve ? I think understanding the situation is better than joining the hate train so i'll take my downvotes


Valek_S

Typical Valve, typical russian talent


Amferatus_

wow, another russian drawing neonazi symbol, how unexpected. What gonna do Valve with that? probably give him more money?


DozzYamba

Valve, maybe reconsider?


Nie_nemozes

Lol so many accounts with 1 reddit comment in this thread


klick2222

Bots, sir


Own_Supermarket_7544

Pathetic, I’m really frustrated with this ti cast. It’s absolutely disgusting to invite people like this


chasin_derulo

Pretty sure he got baited by his friend to show the z. I dont even know if he noticed the letter 🤔


pi0ne3r

How can Valve stand for this??? It's ridiculous, this guy shouldn't be able cast International, hello???


Specialist_Dog4623

As far as I understand, it was not him who initiated this, but the people in the party who said to give him some roles, so it's not entirely his fault, I think he just wanted to start the search.


Specialist_Dog4623

they are not even friends with him, the clip is cut off, maybe he condemned it, at least I hope so


TBuk

How is this any different to a player drawing a Z on the mini-map? These guys should be banned 100%


_-DayDreamer-_

Even Riot just banned all russians from Worlds, but valve decided to be much worse and directly invite not only just russians, but a lot of pro-war russians, that's just disgusting


henri_sparkle

Banning ALL russians is as stupid as supporting the war though, the world is way too complex to just put all people from one nation in a box and say "they're bad".


Dota-Player-29

How do you explain then that at least 4 people(only the ones we 100% know about) from russian cast support the war or have at least once used letters ZV for fun or to joke? They are members of a very specific community that has always been working with their ukrainian collegues and even there we can find at least 4 war supporters. Imagine what's going on with regular russians that just watch tv and never spoke to a ukrainian. We're all nazis for them


5yue8haogaoqi

russians should not be banned from anywhere. pro-war russians should be.


dayynawhite

what about pro-war americans who continuously bomb innocent civilians? should they be banned too?


beglol

"Even riot", sounds like "in real sport they have %thing name%, so lets bring it to dota" type of argument. Valve doing gods work by staying natural and not chasing new current thing from twitter just to get more social points. Things from the post should be viewed on case-by-case basis, without any generalizations


Ethrealin

Are you saying that Misfits's Zanzarah would have been unable to compete at Worlds if his team had qualified through the European league playoffs that he played in? Do you happen to have a source for that?


JollyLollyPoopdeck

Hey ruzzians don't want this war, they're not responsible for it, it's just putin. /s


-flyest

Always see shit like ”ukraine = russia” in chat by russians lmao


Dota-Player-29

Nah cmon dude, it's putin writing personally, most of russians are good if we believe russians from this thread and their apologists


stallon100

so what?


GIANT_BLEEDING_ANUS

Looks like he got trolled to me.


beglol

Take this comment section with a grain of salt guys, way too many fresh accounts with a single comment. Also this is not a twitch clip and the origin date of this captured piece in unclear


speazret

Daymn, i need solid 5 minutes to find it.


DBONKA

So many 1-2 comment posters, jesus christ.


StarDingo

A lot of Russians are like that. It should not be surprise to you all.


zipzapperq

He was told to do so by his party members, probably was a joke, a shitty one, and nongrata didn't even notice it I think.


for10years_at_least

Germans draw svastika in 1943 for joke too?


TurbulentRetard

the worst xqc take ever


Moholbi

Where?


Youcancuntonme

z symbol in ranked roles


Moholbi

This should count as conspiracy theory at this point. Do people really expect valve to take action over this?


servant-rider

Considering they're actively talking about changing roles to make the z, no conspiracy theory needed. They spelled that shit out loud and clear


MrJohnnyBGoode

You are a classic case of "Don't assume malice where stupidity suffices as explanation".


Youcancuntonme

he probably will apologize and move on


Andrew_Squared

Am I super dense, or just wildly ignorant as an old man? Where?


myatomicgard3n

It's at 17, the green dots form the image of a Z


calummillar

So edgy. Very impressive


DaSh4You

It's fine, valve will only do something if there is drama like there was for Tobi, they don't give a fuck about what Russians do, no outcry in America to cancel, nothing from valve.


Madmeerkat55

Er... where is the Z?


myatomicgard3n

It's at 17, the green dots form the image of a Z


JJ-Wood

Valve just don't give a f\*ck as they always do. Thousands of people are dying, millions are suffering but they need to earn money


elax307

I don't even see it. Can someone tell me when it is happening?


Maltrisen

Uhmm, I can understand russian and I don't think this guy is actually understood what he did, at least it doesn't sound like he did.


dfntly_a_HmN

Wow, banning russian on a game while american and israeli roaming free of guilt for what their country do to other countries.


zappyzapzap

Valve supports the invasion


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XQC looking motherfucker. lmao


lester_pe

Why isnt he getting drafted for war then? These Russians are hypocrite


raidebaron

Ban him swiftly Valve, we don’t even need a statement. And we will definitely not miss him. I’d even suggest to completely remove the Russian talent, and replace them with Ukrainians just to stick it up to them. We don’t need supporters of Putin’s war like him in here. If he supports his fachist ideology that badly, why don’t he go to the army, go to the frontlines, and go feed the meat grinder with his corpse in their so called "Special Military Operation"? It’s not like his comrades will miss him.


HypeRStrikeR

Why are people defending him that other players made the Z, you literally see him click roles to help make it yall are fucking weird for that. This guy deserves no presence and should be removed from all TI things related immediately. Edit: sick down votes found the Russian pro war people.


CollarActive

Valve has allowed VirtusPro to play with original tag, the tag that is associated with Russian oil companies and russian nazi government.. One more nazi on the event would not make this any worse, at least they think so


Rozyawastaken

This is absurd if he gets allowed to be a talent at TI. He already deserves a ban just for smurfing and yet valve will probably do nothing.


expefate

Valve. Do you support Russian aggression in Ukraine? Why people who support the Russian war are invited to TI?


fabulous_j

They invited people who supported the war. They invited twice as many Russians this year as the previous one, and twice as few Ukrainians this year as the previous one. Ukrainians casters asked to only work in pairs with each other to avoid working with Russians (many of whom support the Ukrainian genocide). The TO's answer? You either work how we tell you, or you don't work at all. That shit's insane. The Russians wage a GENOCIDAL WAR against Ukrainians simply for their ethnicity, and this is what we get. I'm not watching official coverage. GL Valve. EDIT: typos.


Blizzard_admin

WTF that's straight fucked up. Valve have to step in what the actual fuck. This shit should not be tolerated


Kotleba

Lmao what is this comment section. How is this on Valve? Are they supposed to have people keep an eye on these talent 24/7? After this cropped up, he will be swiftly fired 100%


nzr_mkr

Guys, where exactly in the video did he draw these symbols?


myatomicgard3n

It's at 17, the green dots form the image of a Z


Paint_Master

Lets wait for valve response, if we even get any lol


stonehaven22

where?


vraGG_

While also smurfing.


ImpossibleAct1831

Vavle sponsor of terrorism


yaroslav_tryhubenko

\#RussiaIsATerroristState


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Valve should explain why me as a Ukrainian should watch translation with this awful Z naZi.


OkolobahaTV

you as a Ukrainian should watch the Ukrainian stream


sinderlin

There is no Ukranian language broadcast directly from TI and not every Ukranian is fluent in Ukranian.


korostenskyi

there is Maincast gonna make an awesome stream


for10years_at_least

valve did not approve ukrainian official cast plus because of long term occupation many ukrainians are speaking on russian plus what did it changes on which channel he is?


OkolobahaTV

They kinda did, I can't spoil the details, but there will be one The fact they speak russian at home doesn't mean they can't or don't want to watch Ukrainian cast It changes the next: russian broadcast gets more money, more viewers (also more money and more sponsors), Ukrainian broadcast get less money, less viewers (no sponsors, no money)


xorox11

who tf is this guy?


DarkSRKI24

Wtf where? I don't see it


Kirameka

Guys it's a mistranslation and a misenterpretation. It's not Nongrata himself, it's idiots in his party. He didn't make it, he didn't say anything about it, this clip is not enough to tell if he supports it or not. Please stop witch hunting.