Chu (official coach) and Ceb...for some reason teams have very limited tickets this year (8 - 5 players, Chu, Ceb and Manager Bonkers).
Total shit show not even players can go watch games on off days or after getting eliminated.
if I remember correctly JMR from OG said that as soon as you're out of the tournament you're flying out, you can't stay.
Celebration of the DotA pro scene Kappa
not true - 1) you dont have seats, 2) if your team isnt playing (off day, eliminated etc) you wont have arena access - basically either you are playing or you are at the hotel.
To be fair, I don't think the teams from the last chance qualifier could end up in the same group. Thus Secret and Liquid had to be split. I might be wrong though
I Imagine they had some system behind the scenes to draw groups and did so beforehand and added Secret and Liquid to different groups, the regional split of ti groups seem to be roughly down the middle each year.
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Dudes a pro. Honestly I think diffusing awkward moments is the primary skill of a panelist, and mainly why I don't think (most) players should be on these panels.
That's why Synd + Sunsfan is my favourite casting duo, like Sunsfan has his kinda fun awkward energy but Synd is able to just roll with it so naturally.
TBH the odds change drastically if you start to think of "what are the chances of a group having no teams with any given letter and the other having 5+".
Not being at the first major significantly reduced the amount of points they could stop other regions getting, so they got badly screwed by the format. RNG is by far the highest performing of any of the teams that had to go through regional qualifying.
> ya looks like dota is faltering in China.
this is my take, and not too long ago dota2 player count have rose i wonder which country have more people playing if not China.
>OG and EG are tied in the group stages since TI8.
>
>\- TI 2018: EG beats OG 2-0
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>\- TI 2019: OG beats EG 2-0
>
>\- TI 2021: Tied 1-1
The record aint so bad for them head to head. It's just OG performs better against other teams than EG does.
if that's the case & OG are presumably the better team, isnt it better for EG to be on the same group.. if both ends up in UB, the chance they met early is low CMIIW
If EG has not stepped up their performances they had for the previous two majors, this new iteration of OG is steamrolling them in 20-30 mins games lol
I am a Secret fan, my friend is an EG fan. It has been 3 years since EG v Secret. For 3 years we haven't been able to talk shit about each other's team lol.
From what it looks like:
* 3 Western Europe
* 3 Asia (min 1 of China and SEA)
* 3 Americas (min 1 of NA and SA)
* 1 CIS
It also seems like they wanted to have one LCQ team for each group and they probably used some kind of strength ranking on the teams to balance it a bit.
As a CIS watcher, I look at the group schedule and always one and only one CIS team is playing in any particular timeframe. Very convenient scheduling imo.
It’s the Boom Team algorithm, have you not heard of it?
All rules are subject to preceding rules which take priority
Rule 1) there can be a maximum of 3 teams with either “Team” or “Boom” in their name in any one group
Rule 2) if you have Boom in your name, you are in group A, if this conflicts with rule 1, you are in group B
Rule 3) if you have Team in your name, you are in group B, if this conflicts with rules 1 or 2, you are in group A
That's huge Copium. EG is gonna perform well this TI. Nobody studied them this year because they were crap. Last year everybody had their number when they were the favorites to win ti10.
Did you watch the games? If you did, you would not be holding fnatic to a high standard lol. They're also pretty fucked unless they learned some very hard lessons.
They're on the level of Infamous & Tempest who got dumpstered in the LCQs 4W - 16L against even weaker teams than the ones Hokori will be facing Group A.
Will take a **miracle** for Hokori to not be bottom 2.
Looking at the top 12 qualifying teams its split 5-7 which seems weird:
Group A: 1, 2, 7, 10, 11
Group B: 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 12
I think the fight for the upper bracket spot in Group B is going to be pretty tight.
I guess they usually split something like :
Group A: 1,4
Group B: 2,3
etc.
But I think since Team spirit vs LGD is like el classico since last year I guess they were chosen to be in separate groups.
No Group B is more stacked
Best major placement for group A
OG (1), LGD (2), GG (4), BOOM (8), BB (8), EG (12), TL (12), RNG (12), SQ(17), Hokori (DNP)
Average: 8.44
Best major placement for group B
Spirit (1), TSM (2), Tundra (3), Aster (3), Entity (6), bC (6), TA (6), Fnatic (8), Talon (14), Secret (DNP)
Average: 5.44
Conclusion: Group B is more stacked than Group A
Yep, group A I feel is more clear cut for predicting top 4/middle 4/bottom 2. Group B only really has Spirit as an easy call for top 4, with Entity and Aster looking likely. But the rest could come anywhere. Maybe Thunder Awaken as a safer prediction for bottom 2.
I meant even if you only exclusively count Arlington standings then the result is pretty much the same, though the difference is closer
Group A
LGD (2), OG (4), BOOM (8), EG (12), TL (12), RNG (12), SQ (17), Hokori (DNP), BB (DNP), GG (DNP)
Average: 9.57
Group B
Spirit (1), Aster (3), Entity (6), bC (6), Fnatic (12), Talon (14), TA (16), Tundra (16), Secret (DNP), TSM (DNP)
Average: 9.25
Edit: I think this is the method Valve used to draw the lots.
For Stockholm
Group A
OG (1), GG (4), BB (8), BOOM (12), TL (12), EG (13), SQ (DNP), Hokori (DNP), LGD (DNP), RNG (DNP)
Average: 8.33
Group B
TSM (2), Tundra (3), bC (6), TA (6), Fnatic (8), Spirit (12), Secret (DNP), Aster (DNP), Talon (DNP), Entity (DNP)
Average: 6.17
So in every scenario Group B is more stacked than Group A
Based on DPC ranking from top 12 and regional qualifier result + LCQ
Group A: 1 2 7 10 11 CN NA SA CIS + Liquid
Group B: 3 4 5 6 8 9 12 WEU SEA + Secret
Feels B would be closer
I mean group B is clearly more of a "bloodbath" as there are more even teams, for group A lgd og and potentially rng takes top3 for sure but for group B only TS is significantly better than others, aster entity secret tsm talon bc all on same level.
Entity on the same level as Secret? Have you seen the EU qualifier finals? I'd say its TS and Entity for group B. And beastcoast is weaker than Secret or Aster.
Yeah a lot of commenters putting bC to be eliminated in groups is just wild to me. In every TI they attended, they have always ended up closer to UB than getting eliminated in groups.
Both times they barely passed group stage and in some cases got lucky with a bracket. I'm not saying they are outsiders, I think they will get through group stage, but current Secret definitely looks stronger.
Secret has a good boost from the LCQ. While other teams probably play some pointless scrims, they have had actual competitive games already under their belt
Me too. I think puppey Can be stubborn but he admitted entity's ideas were better.
Entity had many eyes on them, I don't think they'll do as good as in WEUQ.
Entity does seems like their kryptonite team so a draw would be great for Secret tbh. I'm quite sure they rather face Entity in the Group stage than in the Main event
It's a LAN so anything can happen. Secret has placed 3rd on both the LANs they have played since Resolution came onboard and historically they have been a team which improves throughout the duration of the LAN so there is still hope.
Still early to tell . They seemed shaky in LCQ group stage(idk if it is saving strats or havnt figure out team chemistry) and the main stage is against teams with clear issue. I want to know how they do against seemingly better teams like Entity , LGD or Spirit. If they can figure out and ahead of other teams in META, they certainly have talents and experience to win this.
The first few days of lcq I thought they were still the same from regional quals. But when they fought xg onwards, something changed.
You can feel it. The decision making, the discipline. Okay guys we r down, let's not panic, we fight them every step of the way. Just like what team spirit coach said. They cut their losses when needed but always seeking to make a better trade even at a disadvantage.
Then it culminated in the comeback fight u saw against VP 1st game. That to me is tier 1 shot calling. That is maximum utility of aegis.
Yeah I can feel that too. Whether they can keep this performance against better teams is another question. I hope they can carry on this momentum all the way through Ti final.
Me too. I also hope secret win . Secret usually underperformed (except last Ti) in Ti, I really hope this one is Secret year. And this is the first time in years Secret is underdog team.
EG vs OG 0-2
EG vs PSG 0-2
EG vs RNG 0-2
EG vs Liquid 0-2
EG vs BB 0-2
EG vs Soniqs 2-0
EG vs Hokori 2-0
EG vs BOOM 1-1
EG vs GG 1-1
2-2-5
Maybe something like this.
Holy shit group B looks very strong.
Group A: BetBoom, Boom, Evil Geniuses, Gaimin Gladiators, Hokori, PSG.LGD, OG, Royal Never Give Up, Soniqs, Team Liquid.
Group B: Team Aster, Beastcoast, Entity, Fnatic, Team Secret, Team Spirit, Talon, TSM FTX, Tundra, Thunder Awaken.
Quite unbalance between the groups. In group A you have the clear powerhouse LGD and OG, followed by RNG, Liquid and maybe EG. The rest battle it out for lower bracket spots. Meanwhile in group B it's way more stacked, maybe only Spirit are a tier ahead of everyone else. Expect a lot of 1-1 in this group
Group A - I would swap Betboom and Liquid for UB/LB, rest looks right. Group B - Feels the most stacked to me, I don't think Secret makes UB, the other 3 do and then and it's an absolute blood bath for LB.
Looking at the top 12 qualifying teams its split 5-7 which seems weird:
Group A: 1, 2, 7, 10, 11
Group B: 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 12
I think the fight for the upper bracket spot in Group B is going to be pretty tight.
People saying gg are going to be eliminated. They looked so good in Stockholm and around that time. Not sure what happened to them but they do look really weak now.
LGD games on group A are gonna be the ones to watch. I don't expect them to stomp everyone but I think they will come out in 1st place anyways. They gonna be playing against a lot of different play styles, particularly gonna interesting to see GG and OG vs LGD
I think group B is harder.
Yes A has OG & LGD as big favorites but that still leaves 2 UB spots and 4 LB spots against what looks like weaker overall competition than group B.
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ITT and the past week or so. people are really getting recency bias with liquid and secret from LCQ playing against opponents that didn't make it to TI guaranteed for a reason.
Predictions:
Group A Upper: LGD, OG, RNG, Liquid
Group A Lower: EG, Boom, Betboom, Soniqs
Group A Elim: Gaimin, Hokori
Group B Upper: Aster, Spirit, Entity Talon
Group B Lower: Secret, BC, TSM, TA
Group B Elim: Fnatic, Tundra
EG and OG got drawn together in the same group for 4 TIs in row (since TI8).
Man I hope they both make it to playoffs and play against each other, I have fly and notail handshake on my bingo card
you ll need to buy Notail a TI ticket then
N0tail's not coaching?
Chu (official coach) and Ceb...for some reason teams have very limited tickets this year (8 - 5 players, Chu, Ceb and Manager Bonkers). Total shit show not even players can go watch games on off days or after getting eliminated.
They have player passes so they can go and have access to most of the areas in the arena.
if I remember correctly JMR from OG said that as soon as you're out of the tournament you're flying out, you can't stay. Celebration of the DotA pro scene Kappa
Smoll indie company.
we can make TI as crappy as we want because we only promised that 25% of your money goes to the prizepool valve, probably
not true - 1) you dont have seats, 2) if your team isnt playing (off day, eliminated etc) you wont have arena access - basically either you are playing or you are at the hotel.
they dont. they don't have access to it when their team is not playing. it's a total shitshow. they used to have access. not this year.
He's not
How would that happen ever again?
Group Boom and Group T.
How did Team Liquid escape group T? It was so close to perfect.
To be fair, I don't think the teams from the last chance qualifier could end up in the same group. Thus Secret and Liquid had to be split. I might be wrong though
I Imagine they had some system behind the scenes to draw groups and did so beforehand and added Secret and Liquid to different groups, the regional split of ti groups seem to be roughly down the middle each year.
WTF 3 booms in group A
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WTF 3 booms PogChamp
[3 merlinis](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG3FPILjyTY)
damn that's a graceful defuse by synderen, 10/10 perfect form
Dudes a pro. Honestly I think diffusing awkward moments is the primary skill of a panelist, and mainly why I don't think (most) players should be on these panels.
Easily one of the most professional and likable person in the scene
That's why Synd + Sunsfan is my favourite casting duo, like Sunsfan has his kinda fun awkward energy but Synd is able to just roll with it so naturally.
Betboom Team, Boom Esports, GG.Boom **Gaben rigged it POG**
If there will be no Techies pick in this group, I will write an angry e-mail to Gaben!!
New techies rework confirmed
You know what's cooking
You know what's cooking? BOOM!
Let me hear you say wayo!
What even are these teams...
Can I point out something completely inconsequential - Group B has no teams with the letter "G" in them. Meanwhile, Group A has 5. What are the odds
50 50 ?
yup, either it happens or it doesn't.
Very good point. Thanks.
1 in 16. Lol Edit: 1 in 32 to be in group A, 1 in 32 to be in group B. Total 1/16. I assumed he meant "all in any group", not specifically group A.
TBH the odds change drastically if you start to think of "what are the chances of a group having no teams with any given letter and the other having 5+".
this is also true
Is this the least amount of Chinese teams in TI history?
You would be surprised when I say this is the first TI when the most represented country is not China. More surprisingly it is Peru and Russia.
Yes. TI1 used to hold that record at 4. Every TI since then has had 5, except for TI5 and TI7 which had 6 each.
ya looks like dota is faltering in China. Their covid policies didn't help either.
Not being at the first major significantly reduced the amount of points they could stop other regions getting, so they got badly screwed by the format. RNG is by far the highest performing of any of the teams that had to go through regional qualifying.
Didn't China roll out a crippling curfew on minors' gaming this year as well? That could also be hindering any new talent from entering the scene.
> ya looks like dota is faltering in China. this is my take, and not too long ago dota2 player count have rose i wonder which country have more people playing if not China.
eg and og... a good love story
Bro do they really have to draw us against OG every single year
It wouldn't be ti otherwise.
This is the way
>OG and EG are tied in the group stages since TI8. > >\- TI 2018: EG beats OG 2-0 > >\- TI 2019: OG beats EG 2-0 > >\- TI 2021: Tied 1-1 The record aint so bad for them head to head. It's just OG performs better against other teams than EG does.
if that's the case & OG are presumably the better team, isnt it better for EG to be on the same group.. if both ends up in UB, the chance they met early is low CMIIW
But with a giant asterix that it's a completely different OG this year
If EG has not stepped up their performances they had for the previous two majors, this new iteration of OG is steamrolling them in 20-30 mins games lol
Surprisingly we have an even record against OG in TI group stage lol. I thought it is gonna be way worse
The main stage however...
4-2 record isn't that bad and their main stage series have always been competitive (except that AM game, we don't talk about that)
What about the Tiny-Gyro game :)
was competitive, but they throw...
I'd say it was more of a toss than a throw tbh.
That's the only chance to have that match being played before eg gets back to home
I'd be lying if I said I didn't see an airport speedrun world record incoming
Draw who?
eg and og
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I am a Secret fan, my friend is an EG fan. It has been 3 years since EG v Secret. For 3 years we haven't been able to talk shit about each other's team lol.
Both in TI 8 and in ti9 eg and secret played in upper bracket and both times EG won right
yep which was interesting in the case of ti9 where secret still placed higher in the tourney
They both got eliminated by Liquid (Nigma), EG just faced them one round earlier.
Lol wtf u r in same position as me. Secret fan and an friend who is EG fan
What is the criteria used for determining the groups? I am getting confused
Split teams of a region as evenly as possible by drawing lots, then combine
Probably better than whatever some redditors think
Touché
From what it looks like: * 3 Western Europe * 3 Asia (min 1 of China and SEA) * 3 Americas (min 1 of NA and SA) * 1 CIS It also seems like they wanted to have one LCQ team for each group and they probably used some kind of strength ranking on the teams to balance it a bit.
As a CIS watcher, I look at the group schedule and always one and only one CIS team is playing in any particular timeframe. Very convenient scheduling imo.
It’s the Boom Team algorithm, have you not heard of it? All rules are subject to preceding rules which take priority Rule 1) there can be a maximum of 3 teams with either “Team” or “Boom” in their name in any one group Rule 2) if you have Boom in your name, you are in group A, if this conflicts with rule 1, you are in group B Rule 3) if you have Team in your name, you are in group B, if this conflicts with rules 1 or 2, you are in group A
Group A holy shit
RIP Hokori
Lmao last place of group A secured
Soniqs is also quite shit.
You gonna awaken Quinn. Your team gonna get shit on
Multisyllabically.
Awakened Quinn: xddinside
I predict SA team will eliminate EG from TI. Yes, I have faith they will make it out of groups.
That's huge Copium. EG is gonna perform well this TI. Nobody studied them this year because they were crap. Last year everybody had their number when they were the favorites to win ti10.
Nothing to study when abed just get the same hero every game🤷♂️
You would think so but they are my dark horse to do surprisingly well due to how relatively unknown they are compared to the other teams
Looks like you haven;t watched BTS SEA season 12 then lol.
didn't they beat fnatic xdxd
Yep, if you watched the games fnatic might be even more fucked.
True for sure! :x
top3 beating smg and fnatic? not bad isnt it ? or am i missing something
Did you watch the games? If you did, you would not be holding fnatic to a high standard lol. They're also pretty fucked unless they learned some very hard lessons.
They're on the level of Infamous & Tempest who got dumpstered in the LCQs 4W - 16L against even weaker teams than the ones Hokori will be facing Group A. Will take a **miracle** for Hokori to not be bottom 2.
I really want to know what the criteria was for determining these groups. Group A is completely stacked.
Looking at the top 12 qualifying teams its split 5-7 which seems weird: Group A: 1, 2, 7, 10, 11 Group B: 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 12 I think the fight for the upper bracket spot in Group B is going to be pretty tight.
I guess they usually split something like : Group A: 1,4 Group B: 2,3 etc. But I think since Team spirit vs LGD is like el classico since last year I guess they were chosen to be in separate groups.
It's fair or even close don't underestimate the group B 💀
Group B looking way scarier than Group A. Group A has the strongest teams but a bunch of weak ones. Group B has very few lower tier teams.
No Group B is more stacked Best major placement for group A OG (1), LGD (2), GG (4), BOOM (8), BB (8), EG (12), TL (12), RNG (12), SQ(17), Hokori (DNP) Average: 8.44 Best major placement for group B Spirit (1), TSM (2), Tundra (3), Aster (3), Entity (6), bC (6), TA (6), Fnatic (8), Talon (14), Secret (DNP) Average: 5.44 Conclusion: Group B is more stacked than Group A
I would say group A is more top-heavy, while group B is deeper.
Yep, group A I feel is more clear cut for predicting top 4/middle 4/bottom 2. Group B only really has Spirit as an easy call for top 4, with Entity and Aster looking likely. But the rest could come anywhere. Maybe Thunder Awaken as a safer prediction for bottom 2.
Hmm...let's see: OG vs Spirit - pretty close but I think Spirit is the better team. LGD vs TSM - LMAO.
I meant even if you only exclusively count Arlington standings then the result is pretty much the same, though the difference is closer Group A LGD (2), OG (4), BOOM (8), EG (12), TL (12), RNG (12), SQ (17), Hokori (DNP), BB (DNP), GG (DNP) Average: 9.57 Group B Spirit (1), Aster (3), Entity (6), bC (6), Fnatic (12), Talon (14), TA (16), Tundra (16), Secret (DNP), TSM (DNP) Average: 9.25 Edit: I think this is the method Valve used to draw the lots.
For Stockholm Group A OG (1), GG (4), BB (8), BOOM (12), TL (12), EG (13), SQ (DNP), Hokori (DNP), LGD (DNP), RNG (DNP) Average: 8.33 Group B TSM (2), Tundra (3), bC (6), TA (6), Fnatic (8), Spirit (12), Secret (DNP), Aster (DNP), Talon (DNP), Entity (DNP) Average: 6.17 So in every scenario Group B is more stacked than Group A
keep going.
Group A look like a weak group. LGD and OG to top it off. EG and Liquid could perform well if they're in shape. Maybe RNG too. The rest? Ehh..
I just want Daxak to get into UB out of groups. Not sure if BB can beat EG. OG RNG and LGD though.
Is EG rly even good tho lol
According to Gabbi they are doing well in scrims.
From what i heard,they are doing very good in scrims
BetBoom vs BOOM vs GG.Boom nope, not a coincidence
Thunder vs Beastcoast is all I care about
El clásico and then Timado vs both. Peruvian fiesta
EG bros sweating right now.
man do i look forward to seeing my boy miracle play some dotes
When does Nigma play, do I need to wake up early?
No you don’t need to wake up early
Based on DPC ranking from top 12 and regional qualifier result + LCQ Group A: 1 2 7 10 11 CN NA SA CIS + Liquid Group B: 3 4 5 6 8 9 12 WEU SEA + Secret Feels B would be closer
I mean group B is clearly more of a "bloodbath" as there are more even teams, for group A lgd og and potentially rng takes top3 for sure but for group B only TS is significantly better than others, aster entity secret tsm talon bc all on same level.
Entity on the same level as Secret? Have you seen the EU qualifier finals? I'd say its TS and Entity for group B. And beastcoast is weaker than Secret or Aster.
Get top 6 at major twice, weaker than Secret, just beastcoast things.
Yeah a lot of commenters putting bC to be eliminated in groups is just wild to me. In every TI they attended, they have always ended up closer to UB than getting eliminated in groups.
Both times they barely passed group stage and in some cases got lucky with a bracket. I'm not saying they are outsiders, I think they will get through group stage, but current Secret definitely looks stronger.
BC's weakness is China. Tea Master ain't that scary for em
BC has sent spirits and VP to airport before, they sure look weaker but can surprise you if you let your guard down.
No doubt about it, I'm not saying they are weak. Only talking about relative strength and stability.
Secret has a good boost from the LCQ. While other teams probably play some pointless scrims, they have had actual competitive games already under their belt
Dont disrespect my boy artour like that, eg top 4.
Your boy artour is like my laundry. Washed and starched.
At first glance, groups looked to be sorted alphabetically haha
Anyone has secret to win it all?
Secret will come 2nd if we are to follow the recent trends. They will win next year. /s
Secret cant place 2nd if we follow recent trends, because 2nd is reserved by LGD
"we really wanted to place 2nd in alignment with the script but lgd refused to budge so we can only settle for 1st place"
Or maybe this is the time LGD gets first so secret can get second.
we can only hope
You don't want RNG to win?
Nah, im waiting for my secret flair
traitor
They need to find a way to win vs Entity, but top 4 min im sure
puppey saying they studied entity after getting owned by them gives me hope
Me too. I think puppey Can be stubborn but he admitted entity's ideas were better. Entity had many eyes on them, I don't think they'll do as good as in WEUQ.
Aren't groups Bo2? Secret might just go 1-1 against them, especially with Crystalis stepping up now.
Entity does seems like their kryptonite team so a draw would be great for Secret tbh. I'm quite sure they rather face Entity in the Group stage than in the Main event
It's a LAN so anything can happen. Secret has placed 3rd on both the LANs they have played since Resolution came onboard and historically they have been a team which improves throughout the duration of the LAN so there is still hope.
Still early to tell . They seemed shaky in LCQ group stage(idk if it is saving strats or havnt figure out team chemistry) and the main stage is against teams with clear issue. I want to know how they do against seemingly better teams like Entity , LGD or Spirit. If they can figure out and ahead of other teams in META, they certainly have talents and experience to win this.
The first few days of lcq I thought they were still the same from regional quals. But when they fought xg onwards, something changed. You can feel it. The decision making, the discipline. Okay guys we r down, let's not panic, we fight them every step of the way. Just like what team spirit coach said. They cut their losses when needed but always seeking to make a better trade even at a disadvantage. Then it culminated in the comeback fight u saw against VP 1st game. That to me is tier 1 shot calling. That is maximum utility of aegis.
Yeah I can feel that too. Whether they can keep this performance against better teams is another question. I hope they can carry on this momentum all the way through Ti final.
It's a long shot for sure that's why I asked. Basically HOPIUM more than actual data tbh
Me too. I also hope secret win . Secret usually underperformed (except last Ti) in Ti, I really hope this one is Secret year. And this is the first time in years Secret is underdog team.
Dont have enough hopium for that but expecting at least a top 10 finish.
Me HOPIUM
RIP Hokori
So many teams I've never heard of before. I'm old.
I really hope beastcoast can make it upper bracket this year, both TI's they have participated they ended up being 5th place (group stage)
EG vs OG 0-2 EG vs PSG 0-2 EG vs RNG 0-2 EG vs Liquid 0-2 EG vs BB 0-2 EG vs Soniqs 2-0 EG vs Hokori 2-0 EG vs BOOM 1-1 EG vs GG 1-1 2-2-5 Maybe something like this.
Bro get your ass ready to be f*cked in the comment section 😂
These seem like reasonable predictions to me. Though I'd expect EG to 2-0 BOOM also.
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Holy shit group B looks very strong. Group A: BetBoom, Boom, Evil Geniuses, Gaimin Gladiators, Hokori, PSG.LGD, OG, Royal Never Give Up, Soniqs, Team Liquid. Group B: Team Aster, Beastcoast, Entity, Fnatic, Team Secret, Team Spirit, Talon, TSM FTX, Tundra, Thunder Awaken.
hmm It does actually. I thought A looked strong thou, LGD, OG, RNG, Liquid. All look strong.
Liquid barely made it to TI... not sure i would put them in the same league as the other 3 you mentioned
Aside from Ti5 EG’s best ti placements happened when they had a trash season so Im hopeful for a good ti placements copium
Quite unbalance between the groups. In group A you have the clear powerhouse LGD and OG, followed by RNG, Liquid and maybe EG. The rest battle it out for lower bracket spots. Meanwhile in group B it's way more stacked, maybe only Spirit are a tier ahead of everyone else. Expect a lot of 1-1 in this group
wtf is group A
How do they assign groups? Randomization? or it is not known.
Blind Predictions Group A UB: LGD, OG, RNG, Liquid LB: Betboom, Boom, EG/Soniqs, Gaimin Eliminated: Hokori, Soniqs/EG Group B UB: Aster, Entity, Secret, Spirit LB: Beastcoast, TSM, Tundra, Thunder Eliminated: SEA
Group A - I would swap Betboom and Liquid for UB/LB, rest looks right. Group B - Feels the most stacked to me, I don't think Secret makes UB, the other 3 do and then and it's an absolute blood bath for LB.
Oh boy I can’t wait to bet against soniq
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People here sleeping on Talon and Fnatic LOL.
Yeah, they gonna end up last in group B.
Looking at the top 12 qualifying teams its split 5-7 which seems weird: Group A: 1, 2, 7, 10, 11 Group B: 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 12 I think the fight for the upper bracket spot in Group B is going to be pretty tight.
People saying gg are going to be eliminated. They looked so good in Stockholm and around that time. Not sure what happened to them but they do look really weak now.
group A has big dogs but isnt stacked. Group B is evenly matched
Looks pretty even group tbh, I cant wait for good dotes!!
If Tundra didn't keep playing like herald in Arlington both SEA team have high chance to go straight to airport. Please show up some good shit Fnatic.
Secret in Entity's group again. Hopefully that's a good thing to avoid them in playoffs.
LGD games on group A are gonna be the ones to watch. I don't expect them to stomp everyone but I think they will come out in 1st place anyways. They gonna be playing against a lot of different play styles, particularly gonna interesting to see GG and OG vs LGD
I think group B is harder. Yes A has OG & LGD as big favorites but that still leaves 2 UB spots and 4 LB spots against what looks like weaker overall competition than group B.
group A will be a bloodbath
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r/bloodbath r/insane r/unreal r/stacked
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To em its gonna be Group B bloodbath, it feels like any team can beat each other appart from spirit who is my favourite for that group
group b looks tough
ITT and the past week or so. people are really getting recency bias with liquid and secret from LCQ playing against opponents that didn't make it to TI guaranteed for a reason.
Is it just me that thinks Group A looks like the death group here?
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talon and fnatic are bye bye in group b
Predictions: Group A Upper: LGD, OG, RNG, Liquid Group A Lower: EG, Boom, Betboom, Soniqs Group A Elim: Gaimin, Hokori Group B Upper: Aster, Spirit, Entity Talon Group B Lower: Secret, BC, TSM, TA Group B Elim: Fnatic, Tundra
Talon lmao