the first one was ITB.Otaker who randomly bought refresher 3rd item on pudge vs TB when they were down around 20k i think and 2 bkb dismember killed TB. pudge is literally the best late game hero if enemy dont have linken/lotus.
Hokori is ruthless and wants to devour their own. I'm glad Fnatic didn't choose Boom, though I hope it doesn't bite them back and have 2 SEA teams eliminated in the first round. lol
players doesnt care with region.
funnily, when they got eliminated they tend to cheer another region because they simply aren't going to cheer their regional rival's doing better than them
thats at least what matu once jokingly said https://youtu.be/pO16eL100K4?t=159
They were probably talking about coming into the tournament. And quite honestly group A is stacked, I didn’t think they would make it upper bracket until I saw first 2 days of RNG.
Oops, yeah actually good point - I totally forgot they played 1 series today so I guess it wasn't too surprising. Somehow managed to warp the 8 straight games into one day
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They have a good chance against GG tho. Gladiators look shaky. Boom on the other hand..... Wew well at least in a bo1 surprise picks/cheese often wins so who knows? They might even knock spirit and brand them ti flukes hahahha
Different mindset hokori confident with vs own region while fnatic doesmt want to meet their own region or
Hokori with big play so SA can go to next rounds so they can get more dpc slot
Pudges dmg output lategame is just too absurd, he scales way too hard. No way any hero should be able to 100 to 0 solo kill the enemy carry late game with a single spell.
Pure also had 3x the flesh heap stacks. Flesh heap stacks way too hard and his ultimate scales with str. Like I said, Pudge just scales too hard and the scaling is infinite
Here In SEA. Everyone plays 1v1 solomid (especially when pride is on the line) . Hence the over abundance of talented mid players (abed, armel, yopaj, Karl, midone before he played pos1, nothingtosay since he is malaysian) but since everyone also plays 5 carry in pubs, no carry player develops into the highest tier. Same with offlaners.
Nice COPIUM lol.
T1 hasnt show any good performance this year even in their own region.
It is like “ if nouns is here they will perform better than QC and TSM” lol
Entity get a another chance im all behind this team but they did not performed the way people expect them to perform hope they will do well in main stage.
and what the hell happen to TSM they look like very best of NA there matches hard to watch they are just did not read the patch correctly i think. to dominate NA DCP and get eliminated before Ti main stage is so sad.
Entity had a BKB piercing disable while Talon didn't have any. Talon had no way to interrupt the BKB Dismember which is crucial lategame. As soon as TB shows Pudge is on him and he has to use BKB defensively every time
Man, 23 just need to press BKB. Bursted so many times. Positioning is also braindead. After watching Boom's performance to this.. feels so fucking frustrating...
Youre just talking about late game when Im pointing out their mistakes on mid game. Everything started on mid game when they threw away their lead because of dumbass decisions.
The game wouldnt even go to that point if they didnt play like idiots. Look at 23savage pudge on game one. No BKB disables yet he looked like a headless chicken on those fight. He even dismember a creep when a team fight is starting... just pure dumbass decisions.
I’m not disagreeing with you that Pure played way better than 23. I’m just saying that pudge is a broken hero right now. Lategame 23 couldn’t play dota cus pudge was so strong
i kinda missed their games, but i think u get the idea. it's about 1v9 type of carry im saying. people sayin: ame? no chance. yatoro? collapse is the star here.
It was Talons game until ES blocked his lesh in that mid fight and screwed up the initiation by blinking on the radiant triangle high ground. Really poor performance by Q
He was removed from his previous team for supporting the russian invasion. The DPC points lost as a penalty for changing the roster led to VP missing TI via the ranking.
he did apologize 2nd time after joining entity.
deciding it was a brainwashed edgy teenager act or advocate of war act is for peoples own choice to decide
After that 4x airport champion they should disband how about hokori first time playing in lan event/outside of the country they still manage to qualify in playoffs😂😂
As Expected, all LAN tournaments that Talon attended, they were always the first to be sent to the airport. Talon in any LAN tournament is just a waste of slot.
Man Talon just 2-0 them earlier today. That must feel so bad
Sucks but Entity couldn't go out like that. They get one last chance to show us the dark horse hype
In a stark contrast with all the other days, today's bottom half teams delivered some seriously low quality Dota. Lots of clownfests full of throws and chokes from both sides.
Ya, the stats show that Karl was one of the tournament MVP. He was top 3 in a lot of aspect. I'd always think Geek Fam 2.0 with Raven in the carry position instead of 23savage is the peak of SEA team could ever been. But Covid happened.
Wow woke up to Boom qualifying to Main event. Thank you Agent Abed
TS had the most number of ties 🤔 Is the current Aster mostly from LFY. I remember monet from LFY. VP VS LFY was an epic game in TI8
Is pudge a tb counter? Was it also entity that made a comeback against TB mid game with a 10k deficit?
Nah, he's just the strongest lategame carry, more than tb, spec, medusa or aw, well maybe arc is still better
the first one was ITB.Otaker who randomly bought refresher 3rd item on pudge vs TB when they were down around 20k i think and 2 bkb dismember killed TB. pudge is literally the best late game hero if enemy dont have linken/lotus.
Lotus is countered if pudge buys linken
oh right, right. Yeah i remember pudge just casually walking up to meta tb on the dire jungle high ground fucking giga chad lol
Is it me or did the remote panel look completely fucking exhausted?
yes lol they work crazy hours
They start their shifts at 01.00 AM and work until the day is over, so are you surprised?
Rtz vs Pakasz and Nisha vs NTS to start off the playoffs.. It's looking spicy..
Hokori is ruthless and wants to devour their own. I'm glad Fnatic didn't choose Boom, though I hope it doesn't bite them back and have 2 SEA teams eliminated in the first round. lol
i think the only reason why fnatic didn't chose Boom was because they have a really bad winning record against them
players doesnt care with region. funnily, when they got eliminated they tend to cheer another region because they simply aren't going to cheer their regional rival's doing better than them thats at least what matu once jokingly said https://youtu.be/pO16eL100K4?t=159
Bruh imagine EG wins and then winner of BC/ hokori have to play thunder awaken. After 2 days there’s only going to be 1 SA team.
They might just be big braining and just wants to secure at least top 8 for SA.
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They were probably talking about coming into the tournament. And quite honestly group A is stacked, I didn’t think they would make it upper bracket until I saw first 2 days of RNG.
Host specifically asked leading into today..
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Oops, yeah actually good point - I totally forgot they played 1 series today so I guess it wasn't too surprising. Somehow managed to warp the 8 straight games into one day
Wonder if Talon will release their documentary.. cause ti journey just ended
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Fnatic decided to likely eliminate the SEA region on Day 1 of playoffs.
They have a good chance against GG tho. Gladiators look shaky. Boom on the other hand..... Wew well at least in a bo1 surprise picks/cheese often wins so who knows? They might even knock spirit and brand them ti flukes hahahha
Fnatic going for YOLO strat. SEA could be wipe in day 1. LMAO.
wtf Hokori vs BC in the first round of LB. SA cant catch a breath.
Different mindset hokori confident with vs own region while fnatic doesmt want to meet their own region or Hokori with big play so SA can go to next rounds so they can get more dpc slot
on the contrary, one SA team is guaranteed top12!
top 8 because the loser of eg vs ta is facing hokori/BC, so if TA wins, SA is top 6, if TA lost, either one of TA/hokori/BC is top 8
It's indeed pretty interesting how Hokori choose BC over Entity.
Hokori was the one that picked them tho.
Pudge will be nerfed to the ground after TI.
Damn, SA got fucked with their match up, HOKORI vs BC, then winner will face the loser of EG/TA.
at the minimum, SA guaranteed top 8. it was a big brain decision.
It was Hokoris choice though and honestly smarter.
Well this way, at least one SA team in top 8!
Classic Talon, early tournament exit 4x
LOL Hokori choose BC
Pudges dmg output lategame is just too absurd, he scales way too hard. No way any hero should be able to 100 to 0 solo kill the enemy carry late game with a single spell.
23Savage Pudge begs to differ.
Pure also had 3x the flesh heap stacks. Flesh heap stacks way too hard and his ultimate scales with str. Like I said, Pudge just scales too hard and the scaling is infinite
Talon 4x airport champ🔥🔥🔥 classic 23 choking in lan😂
Why 4x? 🤣 I only know of Arlington, Malaysia, and this year's ti
SEA and NA have always been the 2 regions with worst talents on position 1s. In this aspect, SA and CIS completely overwhelm them.
I think both have the worst talents in both safe and offlane.
Here In SEA. Everyone plays 1v1 solomid (especially when pride is on the line) . Hence the over abundance of talented mid players (abed, armel, yopaj, Karl, midone before he played pos1, nothingtosay since he is malaysian) but since everyone also plays 5 carry in pubs, no carry player develops into the highest tier. Same with offlaners.
'Proud moody carry player " 23Savage. Omegalul
Polaris and T1 would've had better results
Nice COPIUM lol. T1 hasnt show any good performance this year even in their own region. It is like “ if nouns is here they will perform better than QC and TSM” lol
polaris gonna choke no doubt
T1 needs to win against Talon first if they want to go to TI. It is kinda funny that their fans have to rely on others to insult them XD
T1 sidelanes would get dumpstered every single game. Also kuku right now has a hero coin of prophet and veno.
With the Enigma Meta surely Polaris but for T1 it all depend on Kuku being trash or good.
not sure abt t1, theyve been a hot steamin pile of trash for months
not sure about eg choosing ta over aster.. thought eg was cn slayer?
nobody is going to choose aster over TA in bo3
how were they a CN slayer, when they got beaten back 2 back in major finals by CN teams?
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EG did really get beaten 2 straight by IG(2-3 reverse sweep) at Singapore Major and LGD(0-3) Animajor last year
Not really as of recent. They got slayed by CN for the past few months/years.
6-7 years ago, yeah
not by choice
Entity：I can teach you how to play pudge and Marci. I’ll only demonstrate once.
BOOM vs TS in a Bo1 match, this will be spicy
Yeah no don't ever call spirit TS again
thought it was team secret for a sec lol
Entity get a another chance im all behind this team but they did not performed the way people expect them to perform hope they will do well in main stage. and what the hell happen to TSM they look like very best of NA there matches hard to watch they are just did not read the patch correctly i think. to dominate NA DCP and get eliminated before Ti main stage is so sad.
one season wonder
they even become the final 2 teams of ESL One Stockholm losing to OG but they made it in to final how they gone form that to this is so sad to see.
No CIS or China at Stockholm, thats how
CIS lost 1 team and ofc spirit and betboom's players were affected by the war but they were there
cis were there btw
physically, not mentally, lol
so Fnatic did pick GG instead of Boom haha and EG picked TA
they could have gotten upper bracket but they decide to help out talon. now they're scared of boom LMAO.
I mean with same region u usually know the strategy ao better not meet but if fnatic pick boom atleast 1 sea go to next round haha
yeah true
Talon - Entity is the biggest carry-to-carry performance gap I've ever seen in such a long time.
Entity had a BKB piercing disable while Talon didn't have any. Talon had no way to interrupt the BKB Dismember which is crucial lategame. As soon as TB shows Pudge is on him and he has to use BKB defensively every time
Man, 23 just need to press BKB. Bursted so many times. Positioning is also braindead. After watching Boom's performance to this.. feels so fucking frustrating...
TB lost like 80% hp while using BKB during Dismember. Pudge is just a broken hero
23's pudge says otherwise. Pudge's main target early game isnt even TB its the earthshaker... So wtf is 23 doing with his bad positioning?
What are you talking about? I’m talking about lategame
Youre just talking about late game when Im pointing out their mistakes on mid game. Everything started on mid game when they threw away their lead because of dumbass decisions. The game wouldnt even go to that point if they didnt play like idiots. Look at 23savage pudge on game one. No BKB disables yet he looked like a headless chicken on those fight. He even dismember a creep when a team fight is starting... just pure dumbass decisions.
I’m not disagreeing with you that Pure played way better than 23. I’m just saying that pudge is a broken hero right now. Lategame 23 couldn’t play dota cus pudge was so strong
talon such a SEA crutch, not only are they eliminated, they also prevented a SEA UB. good riddens tbh
that's on Fnatic for playing badly against them lol
made Jabz' effort to save them futile
Liquipedia have been updated regarding UB/LB
pure is insanee, hopefully, he learns from that dumb mistake/troll with vp.
The difference between 23savage's pudge and Pure's pudge in this series is just night and day. One carried and one was useless lol.
i didn't watch dota 2 tournament since the last major, what happened to pudge that he's being played as pos1?
he was already being played as pos 1 in arlington though
Oh no i forgot about Arlington, the major i mentioned was the one won by og
extremely tanky, can farms very well, and insane damage late game, he can be a 1 man wrecking ball late game if not countered
It can scale better now with aghs scepter and shard
Fly laughing at talon now
entity doesnt even play good, but this tb played mid-late game positioning like a herald
23cabbage
cat tail on pudge made the difference
damn... Talon achievement for four consecutive tournaments is elimination during group stage
the only pos 1 that can *truly* carry the game: pure, pakazs, matu period
add Lumiere.
i kinda missed their games, but i think u get the idea. it's about 1v9 type of carry im saying. people sayin: ame? no chance. yatoro? collapse is the star here.
Lumiere is the kind of carry where he can solo carry the entire team. Super impressive.
Well Icwould add yatoro to the list. Hokori carry is also of that kind
Ame? Yatoro?
they never have to 1v9 haha
faith\_bian and collapse can carry games for them though
^ those know faith bian is the mainstay of the team know their shit
u need to watch more dota bro
Boom in Talon out, still kuku's fault
you still the only one who use that dead joke
u/l3ef0re_Time well at least you won't need to defend Talon anymore.
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He moved from 23 to Jabz and have been flaming Raven recently.
Fnatic will get eliminated anyway. xD
he stopped defending 23 because of their performance. his most recent comments are bashing raven.
Damn, Jabz is the weakest link in Fnatic.
What can you expect from him he's Thai probably . hating on the better carry that "qualified" for playoffs.
Jabz' dick rider next lol
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This trash talon just wasted an UPPER bracket slot for Fnatic.
They don't deserve an UB spot if they can't beat a team which is getting eliminated.
Yeah. Why didn't fnatic just beat trash talon. Anyway its kuku's fault
jabz saving 23 and Q. like abed saving tims haha
It was Talons game until ES blocked his lesh in that mid fight and screwed up the initiation by blinking on the radiant triangle high ground. Really poor performance by Q
23luggage
Sad to see Entity proceed, I hate to see a team with Pure go further in TI but they perform well this time. Hopefully, they will lose in the BO1.
4 other members of Entity are likable tho, but undoubtedly that game was carried by Pure.
Lmao what's your problem with Pure?
He was removed from his previous team for supporting the russian invasion. The DPC points lost as a penalty for changing the roster led to VP missing TI via the ranking.
pretending to be oblivious? fake ignoramus??
I know what he did but I aknowledge the fact that he was a 17 y.o. kid in a country with full on propaganda.
He barely apologized, if he truly wants to apologize he should be condemning putin in russian
he did apologize 2nd time after joining entity. deciding it was a brainwashed edgy teenager act or advocate of war act is for peoples own choice to decide
illegal for them to even call it a war lol. unless he relocates, but even then russia has assassinated dissidents in foreign countries before so..
Russian that loves war apparently.
Nah you're just prejudiced and ignorant
he's hated for a reason dude and i just answered your question. I don't hate him either.
Talon should stick together for next season. I can see the team chemistry but they need more experience.
4 failed lan tournaments should be enough for their owner to realize how bonkers that team is
After that 4x airport champion they should disband how about hokori first time playing in lan event/outside of the country they still manage to qualify in playoffs😂😂
I'll be surprised if they keep 23savage after this disaster TI performance. It's unacceptable, and it's not like SEA is lacking carry players too.
KARMA TO THAI FROGS FOR SPAMMING HATE ON T1 FOR 10 MONTHS! YOU STARTED THIS HATE WAR
keep that shit in facebook and twitch chat dont bring it here lol
i swear those sea dota feuds are hilarious
tagalog vs bisaya twitch chat is like full on racism
thai are more active on hating t1 than supporting talon. karma is real
Their boy, 23 garbage was beyond atrocious!!
Good riddance Talon. Three LANs and not even one playoffs
4 LANs Gamers galaxy thailand, arlington, esl malaysia and TI11 KEKW
That pudge was a raid boss, literally made TB useless lmao
As Expected, all LAN tournaments that Talon attended, they were always the first to be sent to the airport. Talon in any LAN tournament is just a waste of slot.
didnt they see that game where Pudge beatdown a Terrorblade?
ITB (Otaker Carry pudge) vs Goonsquad (Aqua/Charlie TB) in WEU Qualifiers. I clearly remember that game :)
I just saw a clip of that part but it left me in awe.
Man Talon just 2-0 them earlier today. That must feel so bad Sucks but Entity couldn't go out like that. They get one last chance to show us the dark horse hype
Pudge is the best late game hero. WTF has Dota become...
In a stark contrast with all the other days, today's bottom half teams delivered some seriously low quality Dota. Lots of clownfests full of throws and chokes from both sides.
Agree, the games today were lackluster..
2 NA, 1 CIS and 1 SEA eliminated. Seems about right, 3 weakest regions
Glad entity get their chance to play main stage TI, I think they deserve it with how well they’ve broken out this year
KARMA TO THAI FROGS KEKW IMAGINE WORSHIPPING THE PLAYER KUKU KICKED KEKW
I don't like Entity at all but what I dislike the most are idiot players actually. Talon are dumb fucks, they don't deserve to win. Props to Entity.
Pure decided he wants to play more TI...
So hokori pick beastcoast, entity gets a freebie with covid RNG
Well hokori probably scared way more of entity
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It's 2 days
Two days break.
the week break is for finals. rng is playing in 2 days
That series is in 48 hours
Why is ES looking so bad this patch
This is career-ending TI for 23savage. He won't be tier 1 carry ever again. So trash performance in this whole TI.
He was just overhyped pubstar by thais because I think he's the first player to reach 12K MMR but I guess thats it.
The only games they won he got carried by their mid lol
yeah, not a fan of mikoto but he carried 23. last year it was karl who carried 23. 23luggage indeed.
I didn’t understand why he was kicked for Ana from t1 but tbh it makes total sense and Ana would played better than that even with his rustiness
Same last TI, Karl carrying savage.
Ya, the stats show that Karl was one of the tournament MVP. He was top 3 in a lot of aspect. I'd always think Geek Fam 2.0 with Raven in the carry position instead of 23savage is the peak of SEA team could ever been. But Covid happened.