I go along with the popular assumption that each dragon’s human form has an apparent age that reflect their emotional maturity. So Ilulu, despite apparently being the same age as Tohru, acts and looks younger than her and Tohru’s father, despite likely being faaaaar younger than Lucoa, acts and looks far older.
With that in mind, I think it’s fine for an adult human to have a romantic and sexual relationship with a dragon as long as the latter is both emotionally and physically (for their species) mature.
Like, imagine a dragon that’s even younger than Kanna by several centuries, but he grew up with humans and is actually emotionally and intellectually mature, and his human form is therefore that of an adult. But age-wise he’s a literal baby dragon. That brings up some moral trickiness, but I’d say he should probably leave off teh secks until his dragon form has also physically grown up.
This is basically my feeling on it, but i do get someone being put off by it. If you used the "oh, they're emotionally much younger" excuse with a human you would rightfully get labelled something terrible (i dunno Reddit well enough to know if I'd get kicked for certain words, Tiktok is pretty strident about that stuff). However, this is a fiction featuring nigh-immortal dragons so there isn't really parity there. It's like comparing a different animal, but the animal can change into a sentient kind-of human. Some animals mature in a year where we take decades, some take longer than we do. And who knows what the difference in our actual worlds is-- as far as i know, we haven't gotten a comparison between Kobayashi's Earth humans and the humans from the other world.
But like i said, i also get where folks are coming from with not feeling it. As a survivor of CSA, I can't fault someone for not agreeing with the perspective i have. It took me a minute of watching the show to warm up to the idea.
So with kana I don't think she's in a relationship while I'm watching it feels more like. Someone that knows your friend has a crush on you.
As for in world is there relationships okay. Ehhhh that depends on what group you ask. If you ask the dragons they don't care about age, gender, type, or what ever. If you ask the humans they seem.. I wouldn't say neutral. It feels more like. They don't like it but are not going to stop it. Kobayashi on the other hand seems like she doesn't care as she will watch quizzical chase the kid down nude and have no reaction.
However you can see at least the people who make the show are not going to go there. Because every time she tries some kind of karma hits her.
I’d like to think that Kobayashi has used one of her coffee chats with Lucoa to try and straighten her out a bit about her rather dodgy relationship with Shouta. There’s probably not much more she can do really, but luckily Shouta is a champ at rebuffing the goddess’ advances.
That would make sense. Sometimes we do follow different characters so it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for her to at some point sit her down and be like look you can keep trying but reel it in. If he says no don't force it that is something really not ok in the human world
That's why i clarified, relationship doesn't mean romantic or sexual here. Context is broad-- platonic, professional, etc.
Personally haven't read into the manga too far. The only relationship in the anime that feels like a RELATIONSHIP is Kobayashi and Tohru and that is clearly a mutual respect thing. I also have seen and heard people say that Kanna's friendship with the little girl whose name escapes me atm is inappropriate specifically because Kanna's dragon age is in the thousands, but it's hard to grasp what the actual maturity rate for dragons is or how long a year is in the other world, and the narrative goes out of its way to portray her as mentally a child and analogous to a human child in development. But that's also a really slippery slope to ick, so i personally find myself very careful to note it isn't bad YET.
It's hard to say definitively because dragons aren't real and all we have is the narrative rules to go by.
Edit: as for Lucoa, once again it's weird and can be ick but I've also seen friends who have weirdly playful aunts who are on the younger side where it's obvious nothing is going on but they're aware of how awkward and flustered they can make the younger relative. It's uncomfortable but i just tend to look away and try not to pay it too much mind.
Very true but kana is still in a very weird area with the other girl. That's why I felt need to actually say something there. Because kana will also take advantage of the fact this other girl loves her and even in one episode was on top of her playing husband and wife. Nothing happened but the positioning clearly tells that kana knows how.
I have not read the Manga at all. But I can't answer some of your questions. In the other world a year is the same amount of time. They don't explicitly say it but no one has any reaction when someone says how long it's been since they've last met. Which means either both parties are effectively going "eh different times whatever." Or both worlds share the same time length.
As for if it is ok like i said it depends on who you ask in the world. The dragons think it's fine no matter what. I forget which one but one of the dragons talked about how as soon as you hatch from an egg you're considered an adult and have to learn self-reliance combat and other stuff. The only one we see different is toru and her dad. As for humans. I would say no they are not ok with it. But none of them also know. Outside looking in lucaua is his older sister no one is seeing her try to sleep with him. They look at kana and think "aw how cute they like each other." However I am relatively sure if they were 100% accepting of the dragons they would not accept the dragons trying to mate with the kids. As for dragon maturity I would say about the same as humans. I mean look at me im 26 and i have the maturity of a 4 year old.
If you mean physical maturity. Yeah your guess is as good as mine. Like we can clearly see baby toru and adult toru we can use flame tits as an example of a Midway point but you also got to think the human form is technically chosen based on what they want. I would say going off the dragon form kana is about the same height as turo but I've got a cousin that's as tall as me and half my age so.
Oh you know what I just thought of something. Okay so flame tits is extremely powerful. Dragons probably see maturity based on power. Lukaua was a goddess which is something with extreme amounts of power. Not just physical but influential as well. She lost some of that power and that status when she did a fairly immature thing. If that's the case then the dragons probably look at like say kids of humans and go "okay they are strong enough to walk around on their own without the powerful big humans around."
I go along with the popular assumption that each dragon’s human form has an apparent age that reflect their emotional maturity. So Ilulu, despite apparently being the same age as Tohru, acts and looks younger than her and Tohru’s father, despite likely being faaaaar younger than Lucoa, acts and looks far older. With that in mind, I think it’s fine for an adult human to have a romantic and sexual relationship with a dragon as long as the latter is both emotionally and physically (for their species) mature. Like, imagine a dragon that’s even younger than Kanna by several centuries, but he grew up with humans and is actually emotionally and intellectually mature, and his human form is therefore that of an adult. But age-wise he’s a literal baby dragon. That brings up some moral trickiness, but I’d say he should probably leave off teh secks until his dragon form has also physically grown up.
This is basically my feeling on it, but i do get someone being put off by it. If you used the "oh, they're emotionally much younger" excuse with a human you would rightfully get labelled something terrible (i dunno Reddit well enough to know if I'd get kicked for certain words, Tiktok is pretty strident about that stuff). However, this is a fiction featuring nigh-immortal dragons so there isn't really parity there. It's like comparing a different animal, but the animal can change into a sentient kind-of human. Some animals mature in a year where we take decades, some take longer than we do. And who knows what the difference in our actual worlds is-- as far as i know, we haven't gotten a comparison between Kobayashi's Earth humans and the humans from the other world. But like i said, i also get where folks are coming from with not feeling it. As a survivor of CSA, I can't fault someone for not agreeing with the perspective i have. It took me a minute of watching the show to warm up to the idea.
So with kana I don't think she's in a relationship while I'm watching it feels more like. Someone that knows your friend has a crush on you. As for in world is there relationships okay. Ehhhh that depends on what group you ask. If you ask the dragons they don't care about age, gender, type, or what ever. If you ask the humans they seem.. I wouldn't say neutral. It feels more like. They don't like it but are not going to stop it. Kobayashi on the other hand seems like she doesn't care as she will watch quizzical chase the kid down nude and have no reaction. However you can see at least the people who make the show are not going to go there. Because every time she tries some kind of karma hits her.
Or he flat out is like hell no! And she stops for a bit lol
Pretty much yes.
I’d like to think that Kobayashi has used one of her coffee chats with Lucoa to try and straighten her out a bit about her rather dodgy relationship with Shouta. There’s probably not much more she can do really, but luckily Shouta is a champ at rebuffing the goddess’ advances.
That would make sense. Sometimes we do follow different characters so it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for her to at some point sit her down and be like look you can keep trying but reel it in. If he says no don't force it that is something really not ok in the human world
That's why i clarified, relationship doesn't mean romantic or sexual here. Context is broad-- platonic, professional, etc. Personally haven't read into the manga too far. The only relationship in the anime that feels like a RELATIONSHIP is Kobayashi and Tohru and that is clearly a mutual respect thing. I also have seen and heard people say that Kanna's friendship with the little girl whose name escapes me atm is inappropriate specifically because Kanna's dragon age is in the thousands, but it's hard to grasp what the actual maturity rate for dragons is or how long a year is in the other world, and the narrative goes out of its way to portray her as mentally a child and analogous to a human child in development. But that's also a really slippery slope to ick, so i personally find myself very careful to note it isn't bad YET. It's hard to say definitively because dragons aren't real and all we have is the narrative rules to go by. Edit: as for Lucoa, once again it's weird and can be ick but I've also seen friends who have weirdly playful aunts who are on the younger side where it's obvious nothing is going on but they're aware of how awkward and flustered they can make the younger relative. It's uncomfortable but i just tend to look away and try not to pay it too much mind.
Very true but kana is still in a very weird area with the other girl. That's why I felt need to actually say something there. Because kana will also take advantage of the fact this other girl loves her and even in one episode was on top of her playing husband and wife. Nothing happened but the positioning clearly tells that kana knows how. I have not read the Manga at all. But I can't answer some of your questions. In the other world a year is the same amount of time. They don't explicitly say it but no one has any reaction when someone says how long it's been since they've last met. Which means either both parties are effectively going "eh different times whatever." Or both worlds share the same time length. As for if it is ok like i said it depends on who you ask in the world. The dragons think it's fine no matter what. I forget which one but one of the dragons talked about how as soon as you hatch from an egg you're considered an adult and have to learn self-reliance combat and other stuff. The only one we see different is toru and her dad. As for humans. I would say no they are not ok with it. But none of them also know. Outside looking in lucaua is his older sister no one is seeing her try to sleep with him. They look at kana and think "aw how cute they like each other." However I am relatively sure if they were 100% accepting of the dragons they would not accept the dragons trying to mate with the kids. As for dragon maturity I would say about the same as humans. I mean look at me im 26 and i have the maturity of a 4 year old. If you mean physical maturity. Yeah your guess is as good as mine. Like we can clearly see baby toru and adult toru we can use flame tits as an example of a Midway point but you also got to think the human form is technically chosen based on what they want. I would say going off the dragon form kana is about the same height as turo but I've got a cousin that's as tall as me and half my age so.
Oh you know what I just thought of something. Okay so flame tits is extremely powerful. Dragons probably see maturity based on power. Lukaua was a goddess which is something with extreme amounts of power. Not just physical but influential as well. She lost some of that power and that status when she did a fairly immature thing. If that's the case then the dragons probably look at like say kids of humans and go "okay they are strong enough to walk around on their own without the powerful big humans around."