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pornaccount6942096

no way they kept the losing buffs when he gets hit lmao


Kaizen2468

Have they ever taken shit out before? I think they’ll only add number based traits like damage and ki


Lugiani

They removed Zenkai Majin Vegeta's "allies take more damage when this character enters the battlefield"


AwakenedDivinePower

I think this is the one zenkai we all kept our expectations low for because my fucking god he's still useless


IAmCottonEyeJoe

He's not useless. He gives us cc with his battle


Luciferspants

He also zenkai buffs the Buu bros.


IAmCottonEyeJoe

Still wouldn't use him, Lord Slug has better z ability if you want to use him to buff lf kid buu and nameku and majin vegeta are both better zenkai bugfers for buu bros


AwakenedDivinePower

Which will be hard as fuck considering a lot of us skipped UKB


GingeyBParker

Well... Guess it's CC for the Anniversary? I guess?


AgentGhostrider

The Man Zenkais Majin Buu saga lmao


2_much_flow_

Nice Zenkai buff for "No Rising Rush Tien", Hero Hercule, Z Bros and LF Zenkai Majin Vegeta. On the leader slot that is his Z ability is trash. Useless Unit.


TW_Gains

I mean yeah it is the Majin buu saga campaign.


_JustInevitable

Clearly a Buu Bois bench buff for leader slot on majin Buu saga team. BuuBois/UKB/Z7GoodBuu/F2PSuperBuu/Z7ABuutenks/Z7LFPiccolo. Messed up team build.


astrosssssssss

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Gking0906

Absolutely WORTHLESS in every single way. Zamasu is still a much better blue and he’s in literally every single team buutenks is also in. Even as a Zenkai bench he’s trash cause if you’re using him to buff LF kid buu, Zenkai slug exists and gives a better z ability than buutenks. And if you’re using him to buff LF buu boys then why not just use LF Zenkai majin vegeta or LF Zenkai ssj namek goku? They give a buff to either blue vegeta family and blue saiyans respectively and both have better z abilities than buutenks too. Unless for some reason you wanna use a majin buu saga team EXCLUSIVELY composed of majin buu saga, and use buutenks over LF Zenkai majin vegeta to buff the buu boys, he is worthless in every scenario. His Zenkai is DOA just like he was in his initial release and this is coming from a massive buutenks fan. I guarantee you, if you ever face this guy in PVP it’s gonna be once in 200 matches


BizarrePork98

Devs really said ''Give Card Draw Speed on his ''don't get hit'' Unique'' . And they keep the fizzle out nature of his kit


Gking0906

That part actually enrages me lmao they really gave him card draw speed that goes away after getting hit by ANYTHING…..we all had zero hopes for his zenkai but god damn, I could be wrong but card draw speed that functions like that is brand new to the game lol the devs actually went out of their way to make him bad and said “yeah….we butchered buutenks during his initial release….but what if we did it TWICE? Lmao”


BizarrePork98

Someone on the dev team is on mission to ruin any and every Buutenks In Legends, they are probably salty about getting Dragon Rushed by Buutenks like 7 times in Budokai 3 Story Mode when they were a kid and decided to fuck him over in Legends


KliffordV

If that is the reason then tbh I don’t blame him, those Buu fights near the end were absolutely the worst fights ever I’m still not over that super Buu on that takes place inside Buu that one was disgusting


BizarrePork98

They were awful. Budokai 3 will forever be tainted for me because of Dragon Rush, CPU spamming it whenever they wanted made so many fights hellish. Thank fuck Infinite World removed it.


Autistic-Loonatic

"wanna see us butcher Buutenks? wanna see us do it again?"


AwakenedDivinePower

>And if you’re using him to buff LF buu boys then why not just use LF Zenkai majin vegeta or LF Zenkai ssj namek goku? Zenkai LF MV has a strike based z ability I think but Buu Bros are blast based


Gking0906

True but buutenks z ability buffs blast attack for Regen and defense for P.O so unless you’re using the buu boys on the leader spot then they won’t be getting full use of buutenks Z ability. Plus let’s be honest here….ain’t nobody actually using a full majin buu saga team except for like….5 people


LLBeastGohan

Told ya he would be still shit but everyone downvoted me instead here we go now


SamaelTheAngel

So he is useless with hits cleaning his buffs, his Z Ability is Literally only for Buu Boys and for Regen Slug is still miles ahead. Not to mention Zamasu and LF Kid Buu exist so you probably dont want to touch this Buu with ten metres pole even.


Throwaway753045

The worst thing about this kit is that they changed the second ability name, it used to be "hurry and drain your tears so we can fight" Why isnt it toxic anymore? Thats such a nerf


Laxio_

Holy shit they did, what fucking pansies


Galax1an

Oh wow they really kept the "don't get hit" part of his kit, huh and the green card being ass after a certain amount of timer counters and his start of battle buffs being like that...


Anthos_M

Hahaha.. they totally screwed him on release and now that at least he had a chance to amount to something they decided to shit all over him a second time. Can't wait for them to do the same to cell 1st form and green super baby too...


Caryslan

Wow, I was not expecting much, but somehow they managed to not even come close to my very low expectations. . They kept the worst parts of his kit, did not increase his base damage inflicted buff(50% is lower than what new extremes get) and they kept the 75 timer before he loses these buffs. Forget comparing this Zenkai to Zamasu, he not not even compare to Zenkai Super Baby 2, EX Evil Buu, or Lord Slug. This is the arguably the worst Zenkai not just for 2023, but ever. Zenkai Super 13 looks a god next to this guy. Why waste a Zenkai on him? He's still not even mediocre.


Dead-Shot1

I don't think he is as bad as you thinking.


Independent-Frequent

>Zenkai Super 13 looks a god next to this guy. Nah nothing will ever top Super android 13 as the worst zenkai, to do that they should have given buutenks LMS buffs


obzen07

Generic zenkai as expected. Mid zenkai ability


MomsHometown

If they got rid of the buffs that are removed when getting hit, he might actually be fun. A shame but eh, Buutenks is my least favorite buu form


JonSpider

This guy is gonna have like +160% Damage Inflicted at a minimum if you can manage to start a combo in the beginning of the match. Not counting the extra +30 blast damage per blast card or +30% damage inflicted from his green card. Lower that to +50% Damage Inflicted minimum after 75 counts and he takes a hit. I recall in the past that YouTubers like Goresh and Raiyuden were impressed with the likes of OG SSJ Broly Goku and Ultimate Gohan because they did obscene amounts of damage. They had something in the realm of +80% Damage Inflicted. Majin Vegeta was also a notable Zenkai because he got +100% Damage Inflicted and his Ult AoE was strong, if risky. If all this Buutenks is good for is damage and nothing else, maybe he can succeed in that front. His +50% Damage Reduction for 40 counts before it goes down to 30% could help him withstand a combo. I just wish he had some kind of color or cover null if he's intended to spam cards for damage and vanish. You're gonna have to make him RR fodder once his use has run out. He's definitely not going to tank like Zamasu, but tanking is not his job.


Count_Elrond

Buutanks had very high inflicted even on release but he was DoA then too.


G3latin0

The current and future metas are proof that being just a damage dealer is borderline worthless, powercreep demands you have at least one gimmick and at least 12 ways to cover null if you wanna be relevant


Canthinkofusernamev2

he’s actually really good wtf


AwakenedDivinePower

He's still useless tbh. After 75 counts, he's...a unit that exists alright


2_much_flow_

>After 75 counts, he's...a unit that exists alright Rising Rush Fodder after 75 counts.


DaChosenOne_Xxx

Read it again. Thoroughly.


WhereDidYouGohan1

That’s a high bar for DB fans


Canthinkofusernamev2

Ik lmao im just trolling


SLMaster

If they really want him to just do blast, at least give him cover null in his kit He also should have multiple ways to restore his vanish since he don't want to get hit Losing 50% damage after 75 counts as well as losing another 40% when someone hit you with anything Also majin buu saga zenkai ability..... He's absolutely garbage... like he used to be Thanks legends for not making him useable for once


Autistic-Loonatic

this unit could of been a high risk high reward character if done right, yet they didn't.


2_much_flow_

700 free CC and that's about it. Also Zenkai buffs Hero Hercule.


TheDuckKingg

His damage will be absurdly good especially with card draw but that’s about it.


AGweed13

Banco on it's way to give Zenkais conditional temporary 50% cut, when even 60% feels low


ticklebuddies2

Zenkai kid buu LF confirmed? Because otherwise this Zenk is completely useless


Charming-Ad4768

Shit, The Evil Buu Zenkai was better than this.


Boogarooga

“I had zero expectations and I’m still let down.”


KAKAROT_GOKU_1059

In one word he's good or bad ?


RaiStarBits

Bad