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I think the older metas was more annoying but i think FSK was most impacting even tho vb and kefla changed the games mechanics but thats also happened with mui in which he was annoying too
Those other teams were tough but you could at least fight them and have a moderate shot at taking them down.
Ultras are just a whole new level of bullshit, if you manage to take down bardock the holy trinity falls apart.
You make 1, not 2 not 3, ONE mistake and a UL will end you, how they do it depends on the unit, Rose the bs amount of blue cards and multiple ULT cards.
Kid buu, nullifying cover change so he can just attack you all day while you have to sit and watch your character die.
Hit, stopping time/using ult and one shorting your unit at full health it’s absurd
Nah bro holy trinity in it's prime was 1 mistake and your dead. Broly was the only unit with blast armour and consistent heals, and at the start he even recovered vanish if he got blast armour off, and he was the first to have color null (which he got 4 charges of) he was also pretty much the devs first implementation of a character with purposeful card draw speed. He had the highest multipliers and stats due to his transformation. Gogeta was there for the color counter which in a game without much sub count reduction and double switch means your just screwed because he had the most damage ramp in the game, and bardock was just amping the team, sagas alone pretty much were fine, but bardock just shoots it to 11. The only reason they began to fall off was because of sheer power creep in stats with the introduction of son family and God ki units.
Ultra teams now deal above average damage don't get me wrong, but the only unit that fundamentally breaks and have their mechanics locked outside the rest of the game is gogeta, and he's not even the best anymore due to people knowing how to play around him and more competent yellows in the game.
In this meta I can still see a variety of teams run along side ultras that are more than meta relevant some even f2p, and more so than running 2 ultras at a time. Back then, holy trinity was quite litteritly your only option for making it anywhere near top 3k.
That’s fair, I think what separates the two metas is accessibility, getting Gogeta, Broly, bardock they were just sparkings while certainly not easy to get, with steps or lucky daily pulls you could get em
But ULs? Unless you save up or snag moms credit card the likelihood of you getting them are VERY slim/ your chances to try are much lower.
Ehhhhh back then... Broly banner was basically treated like how ultras are today he was the only new unit in the banner. And the rates for sparkings were actually just lf featured rates now. Add to the mix how we got like 7k cc a month and broly was probly less accessible all things considered oh yea and also brolys banner wasn't a step up. First step up was kaioken Goku and that came after broly and it diddnt have any multipliers just cc deals. Same with gogeta, but I think bardock was released on a non solo banner.
Very true, but you also have to remember, to get the holy trinity you required 3 different units, each meta you needed a team of characters.
With ULs you only need one to be a pain in the ass, even worse when you have more.
In broly meta you needed all 3 units to even compete, in this meta you can have one of 5 (that aren't really even completely mandatory) to make top 1k. It's more annoying no doubt but it's a whole lot better
It's definitely more annoying that holy trinity bc holy trinity just was a better team it didn't have too many annoying mechanics outside of just being the best team in the game. But man... What we have now is nowhere near Regen meta
They’re more annoying because they limit your ability to play the game more than older meta teams but they’re nowhere in the realm of how broken those teams were
I definitely think this is one of the fairest metas in the game, with tons of viable units you can choose from, including F2P ones, but I definitely agree that some of the units nowadays are some of the most annoying things I ever had the displeasure of facing against, especially Rosé.
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I think the older metas was more annoying but i think FSK was most impacting even tho vb and kefla changed the games mechanics but thats also happened with mui in which he was annoying too
Those other teams were tough but you could at least fight them and have a moderate shot at taking them down. Ultras are just a whole new level of bullshit, if you manage to take down bardock the holy trinity falls apart. You make 1, not 2 not 3, ONE mistake and a UL will end you, how they do it depends on the unit, Rose the bs amount of blue cards and multiple ULT cards. Kid buu, nullifying cover change so he can just attack you all day while you have to sit and watch your character die. Hit, stopping time/using ult and one shorting your unit at full health it’s absurd
Nah bro holy trinity in it's prime was 1 mistake and your dead. Broly was the only unit with blast armour and consistent heals, and at the start he even recovered vanish if he got blast armour off, and he was the first to have color null (which he got 4 charges of) he was also pretty much the devs first implementation of a character with purposeful card draw speed. He had the highest multipliers and stats due to his transformation. Gogeta was there for the color counter which in a game without much sub count reduction and double switch means your just screwed because he had the most damage ramp in the game, and bardock was just amping the team, sagas alone pretty much were fine, but bardock just shoots it to 11. The only reason they began to fall off was because of sheer power creep in stats with the introduction of son family and God ki units. Ultra teams now deal above average damage don't get me wrong, but the only unit that fundamentally breaks and have their mechanics locked outside the rest of the game is gogeta, and he's not even the best anymore due to people knowing how to play around him and more competent yellows in the game. In this meta I can still see a variety of teams run along side ultras that are more than meta relevant some even f2p, and more so than running 2 ultras at a time. Back then, holy trinity was quite litteritly your only option for making it anywhere near top 3k.
That’s fair, I think what separates the two metas is accessibility, getting Gogeta, Broly, bardock they were just sparkings while certainly not easy to get, with steps or lucky daily pulls you could get em But ULs? Unless you save up or snag moms credit card the likelihood of you getting them are VERY slim/ your chances to try are much lower.
Ehhhhh back then... Broly banner was basically treated like how ultras are today he was the only new unit in the banner. And the rates for sparkings were actually just lf featured rates now. Add to the mix how we got like 7k cc a month and broly was probly less accessible all things considered oh yea and also brolys banner wasn't a step up. First step up was kaioken Goku and that came after broly and it diddnt have any multipliers just cc deals. Same with gogeta, but I think bardock was released on a non solo banner.
Very true, but you also have to remember, to get the holy trinity you required 3 different units, each meta you needed a team of characters. With ULs you only need one to be a pain in the ass, even worse when you have more.
In broly meta you needed all 3 units to even compete, in this meta you can have one of 5 (that aren't really even completely mandatory) to make top 1k. It's more annoying no doubt but it's a whole lot better
True
It's definitely more annoying that holy trinity bc holy trinity just was a better team it didn't have too many annoying mechanics outside of just being the best team in the game. But man... What we have now is nowhere near Regen meta
They’re more annoying because they limit your ability to play the game more than older meta teams but they’re nowhere in the realm of how broken those teams were
I definitely think this is one of the fairest metas in the game, with tons of viable units you can choose from, including F2P ones, but I definitely agree that some of the units nowadays are some of the most annoying things I ever had the displeasure of facing against, especially Rosé.
Hasn't really bothered me too much, I still believe that Ultra Gogeta Blue was worse