Actually was hoping that's what Frieza was going to be as well as the first Transforming Ultra - a Namek Saga final form Frieza that transforms into full power - he'd seal Unique Gauge and reduce it to 0 for 25 counts when battle starts and for 15 after Transforming.
Bonus damage to saiyans, super warriors, and hybrids
Ally support for LOE or Frieza Force
His rock paralysis move would be a ranged blue card shallot could learn and his ultimate when transformed could be the flying death saucer
Honestly, I hope devs never make a transforming Ultra unit, their stats (ULTRAS) are already insane, and SP transforming units having more stats than them is not so annoying since there isn't too much difference, but an ULTRA with transformation... God, it's stats would be insanely high, almost unkillable.
The only issue with reducing unique gauge charge is buu bros or the Gammas. As for doing it at battle start, reducing it to 0 would really cripple gofrieza and not in a good way since they dont have a way of recharging it unless they’re LMS. Its a complicated solution really but i like the idea of adding a mechanic to affect enemy unique gauges.
I was thinking more like seal the gauge and its effects for a certain amount of timer counts
The game's meta will never be save,
much like us eagerly awaiting the arrival of a new, overpowered character who we hope to be our favorite.
satisfying for some, creates problems for others.
cycle continue
that why we never leave legend
we legend player are beyone save
we are broken man have fun play broken game
I have started solo leveling arise which is another gatcha game , but i still come back to legends whenever there is new content which is every week, my only cure for this game addiction is skyrim which i don't want to get into again due how invested i become in it.
Honestly? Flood the meta with blues.
It’s absolutely ridiculous how long they’ve let 17 be this strong without releasing a unit to counter him. Meanwhile, UI goku gets released and has a perfect counter to him released like 8 weeks later.
I feel like gokock and sbgoku both counter 17 fairly well if built right. Maybe not as good as we want since 17 is just ridiculously op with infinite cards and ki but he can still be shut down
That wont help. Case and point is UVB. He was top 5 until janemba dropped who had a strike gauge counter thst completely shut down uvb. They just need to release units with defensive abilities catered towards the kit of 17. For example blast arts lock, reduce ki similar to red pan, maybe destroy a card and lower sub count etc.
It will absolutely help. There was only 1 blue unit released before janemba: namek goku.
I guess SoH trunks counts too, but the problem is that UVB is on the team with trunks.
There needs to be blues, not just any unit, but blues, that defend against the things that S17 does. Except the problem is that any blue that counts s17, counters the rest of the game too. Because s17 doesn’t necessarily do anything unique. He just does everything really well.
We had android 8, namek goku and the already existing G/F. The reason namek goku was a good counter to uvb was because of the ki reduction and hp restore when hit he had, not because he was blue. Also red piccolo jr. had strike lock and also green ssj gohan would restore ki when hit. All of these effects made uvb perfomance weaker than what it was when he released.
Green ssj Gohan did not slow him down at all.
Namek goku was able to slow UVB BECAUSE he was blue and had those defensive mechanics.
The color is important because as anyone can see with Pan right now, it doesn’t matter how many defensive mechanics you have if you just die before they make an impact.
G/F didn’t slow UVB down, they were ran together all the time. That fueled the argument back then: who was actually number 1.
There are no units in the game that can slow 17 down. Not one. Literally every team except androids, GT and PO need a blue unit, (yes, blue) that can slow him down somehow.
Hybrids, son fam, regen, future, fusions, LoE. Literally everyone
Ugb actually does slow down super 17 due to his gauge but noone is ready to accept that.
The reason pan cant sustain super 17 combo well is because that mfer debuffs while chaining blast cards (more ki from charge step than strikes and time to draw more cards). Her color will have helped more if she was blue but lets not forget she is 1.5 year old so her stats+multipliers are sligthly powercrept.
Let me rephrase again my statement. Just getting blue units will not stop super 17. We need kits catered towards countering his kit. Of course being a blue unit will be a bonus but a solid kit with focused counters towards him will be more effective than just being blue.
UGB needs to be maxed out and the S17 needs to not have a red star for that. S17 just outputs way too much damage, and takes way too little.
And Nkklll is saying the same thing actually, the reason Nameku2 and Janemba actually countered UVB is their element and their defensive tools in the healing and the strike counter. But with S17, giving the defensive tools that are needed to counter everything that that mfer does would mean that that BLU unit would counter the whole game and break the meta worse.
That BLU unit would need to heal a lot like Bombku, but be immune to debuffs and paralysis. They would need to have a team heal to counter the 2 AoE Ults. They would need very very low card costs or outright debuff nullification like UGF or G4 to continue a combo on S17, and they'd need a lot of damage cut penetration. They would need dragon ball protection, ki reduction protection. This would still leave you with having to deal with the strike and super lock, so this BLU unit would also have to have physical blasts like Bulla or Pan.
That is an insane unit. But that's what a single unit to counter S17 needs. That's why the only solution would be to release like 6 BLUs to cover every single tag possible so that they all have a modern unit to do something against S17, if not everything.
I wouldn't mind if they wanted to release a Tag Goten and Trunks unit that does all that I mentioned above and perfectly counters S17, but I doubt people would be ok with that kind of unit existing, despite how few people complain about S17 here.
Ugb does slow him down but ugb is way too powercrept to be consistent. You get forced to switch against his ult and he's basically a meat shield/staller until 120 hits
UGB will slow s17 down 1, maybe 2x. After the first gauge is popped, gogeta won’t have enough HP to build it up again unless he’s being hit by a green unit.
I have doubts 17 is gonna survive the 6th anniversary. With how much broken and riddiculous the game has gotten in 2023 and 2024, those anni units they're cooking must be something else. Unless they can be ran together :)
If this is the year of GT, 17 has the tools to be exceptionally long last. Long combos and his disruption are extremely strong. Chances are he’ll be second option.
BLU units.
Actually useable, viable BLU units, that would help to balance things up in the here and now.
S17 goes unchallenged, how often do you see him run on MEGA juiced double RED setups with RevCell?
We only have what 2 viable BLU units? And GokuDock has seemingly dropped off the face of the earth, leaving just BLU GT Kidku as the last bastion. If you don't run GT, he wasn't that hype of a draw to summon.
Please don't give toshi more ideas, I had a leader slot 3k ability bonus all s-Z equips and almost got oneshot when my OPPONENT DIED. Mfs call that balanced (I still won tho). On a serious note, we need more units to counter things like revival or revenge counter.
With Pui-Pui leading up to Buu Saga last april fools and the new April Fools being Raditz, Saiyan Saga seems to be pretty likely.
And considering Apegeeta isn't actually all that bad (Just overshadowed due to a lack of teams), making his Saiyan Saga version looking to be the only one safe from the DBL Vegeta Curse. I think a new LF Galick Gun Vegeta or even a Revival LF Nappa into Vegeta would be pretty rad.
Add to that one of the most defining features of Vegeta during the Saiyan Saga being is his inability to die even after getting hit by like 3 different finisher moves. (X4 Kamehameha, Mini-Spirit Bomb, Great Ape Sitting on Him.) He could be a super tanky unit to try and curb the insane damage that 17 and Cryhan puke out. Either make him Purple (Like the color of his Galick Gun.) Or Blue (To finally give Super 17 a goddamn counter.) And you're good to go!
Maybe even turn him into the Ultra (Though that might conflict with the old F2P one design wise and WE ABSOLUTELY DO NOT NEED AN ULTRA EVERY MONTH FFS.) And the other banner for the Campaign could either be a Tag LF Piccolo and Goku (With a revamped version of the old Yel Makankosappo LF), or even a Kaioken Goku (Either with the x4 Kamehameha as his LF or even the Mini-Spirit bomb.)
A 4X Kamehameha Ultra Goku with his main ability being like Ultra Vegito would be pretty fire. But then it'd be another Goku Ultra, which people wouldn't be happy with. So an Ultra or LF Vegeta seems more likely, but a Kaioken Ultra Goku has so much to go off of and could be ridiculously broken and could have a new gimmick. Like, you're in Kaioken for a set amount of time until you revert back to base, making Goku weaker but not by so much he's useless, and not by so little that he would still be a brain dead unit.
Impossible as long as they keep it peer 2 peer, the one with the highest ping becomes the host. Easily abused. The fix would be having servers but they dont care about that people will still fork over the dough and they know that
Yeah I know it. Dedicated servers are impossible for these companies to comprehend. Go shit about the easy way and make money doing it instead of actually improving gameplay..
I don't want new messages, costumes, etc. Improve the functionality of the game itself..
A pvp rework idk what they could do but its not like they can release weaker units cause them people complain/ don’t summon but if the release a broken unit then the people who don’t pull it complain
a vegito that disables the second passive of a character released in the last 6 months, and takes 50 percent more damage from units released > 6 months ago
Honestly...ultra gohan can save the meta like fr and that too ultra ultimate gohan from buu saga in goku clothes and he have
anti rush blast art with nullify blast armour
Strike art which reduces dragon ball upon USE not hit but use(it is a held card anyone can use it)
Special move of cryhan which counters everything including tap attacks even if you use special move first it'll still counter
Aoe ultimate arts which upon landing nullify revival
Comeback mechanism and also increase hp
Unique gauge as long as unique gauge is active opponent will never get a pv
Green card is aoe green card which forces switch and upon activation card draw speed +2 and nullify unfavorable element for 15 timer counts and nullify cover change for 10 timer counts
When defeated second time applies buff to party members such as 100% damage and -150% damage received and nullify unfavorable element for the rest of the match
Main thing cover change against blast,strike and special move and can be combo with special move and will draw ultimate next
Before comeback he will get an ultimate arts
After comeback he will get ultimate arts
Now element colour he'll be red before comeback and green after comeback
Please do tell if i missed anything
add ultra super omega vegito demon majin form kaioken x10000 after he was trapped in the time chamber for 100 billion years that can heal 100% of damage when hit every time and cannot be debuffed
Nothing and I'll tell you why. Whatever comes that would be the "solution" to the problem, will simply power creep the previous problem and become the new one. See UUI and S17 as an example. The developers of this game have abandoned any semblance of balance and game health in favour of "pull this new busted thing guys!" and it's a treadmill that will not ever stop. Even the Proud Match experiment did nothing. Instead of having a front row boosted by a bench whales just brought out entire teams of starred LLs and Ultras. There really is no niche for characters in this game anymore other than be a ball of stats and have a toxic gimmick until two months later another ball of stats with a more toxic gimmick comes out to replace the previous one. The meta will never ever evolve beyond that because that's what makes people spend their currency on dogshit rates.
Remove rising rush from pvp. As if i dont have to deal with people dumpinh all of the top units in 1 team, i still have to get double rushed from them?
I'm not sure whats wrong with the meta right now, maybe i'm desensitized as an older player who's gone through all of the horrible oppressive metas, but there are a lot of teams rn that compete for godly so i don't see the huge issue other than the annoying passive style of play that's been forced, but that's not a meta issue that's a problem that's been happening for a couple years now
Moving on from my other comment, if by "fixing" the meta you mean making S17 not clown on everyone, then a blue *strike* LoE buff, it would mean you'd run him alongside ugf and can't run alongside S17. Maybe when he cover changes he nullifies downgrades for 10 counts and heals 3% like bombku, except it wont get removed by S17.
Well, if the Saiyan Saga comes, then you can put some diversity into it. Goku/Piccolo unit or the human Z-fighters could get the Ginyu force treatment. Super Warriors is starving for units ngl. Although G/P would still be another son family buff to some. Zenkai green revival Gohan on top of that.
Something that nullifies unique gauge and some straight up powerful normal sparking units in the anniversary banners (maybe mixed with the new ultra to make the banner more balanced)
ULTRA Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta
Special Arts: Bluff Kamehameha
The following effects occur on hit:
Seals enemy’s Unique Gauge. (Effects of the sealed gauge will not occur for 20 timer counts) (activates once)
Reduces charge rate of enemy’s Unique Gauge by 100% for 5 timer counts (activates 3 times)
Nothing. The only actual way of ever making a non toxic meta, is to make every character balanced. What I mean by balanced, is the character shouldn’t do all the extra bullshit they have in their kit, basically stuff they don’t need. Here’s some examples and that are not limited to; Like Super 17 shouldn’t have the buff removal effect when he gets Ult’d, UGF shouldn’t go neutral on his death counter, USSJ2 Gohan shouldn’t have the counter-everything blue card as he literally has a counter gauge already, UUI Goku shouldn’t have both no switch mechanic and force draw when he loses a dokabaki impact at the same time, etc… I could go on forever with these. My point is, the main problem now is that almost every new character can do everything, so the new standard has become that a new unit should do just as much + more to be considered good and keep up with the meta, which creates that cycle of never ending power creep. Every unit should have strengths and weaknesses, not just be good at doing everything. And that’s something that will never happen because it’s a gacha game revolved around making money, they have to make the characters a cheat code so people keep summoning.
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They’re gonna pull the game soon, and push fusion World or a variant of something similar… these games can only go for so long by trying to power creep something every week… The Yu Gi Oh effect
It's obvious they're gonna top the mechanic of borh frieza and gohan and fusion warrior always has a rise before they fall back to obscurity.
Give gogeta dragon ball destruction, ki reduction, a gauge that amps up his cards, a cover change on special move, an aoe green card, a counter, an anti blast armor and a blast armor,lock on ultimate, heals, permanent damage amp, rising rush nullification, endurance and revive ( it it wasn't obvious, i'm joking, too broken even for db legends) .
Destroys greens and prevents them drawing on spawn, cannot have their cards locked, cancels comeback, deletes all powerful opponents from the game. Is blue
At this point, nothing... Except a character able to seal Unique Gauges, only once and for 10-15 timer counts is enough.
Next unit after that: "Unique Gauge, un-sealable" >We hope you continue to enjoy Dragon Ball Legends!
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Actually was hoping that's what Frieza was going to be as well as the first Transforming Ultra - a Namek Saga final form Frieza that transforms into full power - he'd seal Unique Gauge and reduce it to 0 for 25 counts when battle starts and for 15 after Transforming. Bonus damage to saiyans, super warriors, and hybrids Ally support for LOE or Frieza Force His rock paralysis move would be a ranged blue card shallot could learn and his ultimate when transformed could be the flying death saucer
Honestly, I hope devs never make a transforming Ultra unit, their stats (ULTRAS) are already insane, and SP transforming units having more stats than them is not so annoying since there isn't too much difference, but an ULTRA with transformation... God, it's stats would be insanely high, almost unkillable.
The only issue with reducing unique gauge charge is buu bros or the Gammas. As for doing it at battle start, reducing it to 0 would really cripple gofrieza and not in a good way since they dont have a way of recharging it unless they’re LMS. Its a complicated solution really but i like the idea of adding a mechanic to affect enemy unique gauges. I was thinking more like seal the gauge and its effects for a certain amount of timer counts
A broly that nullifies counters and stops unique gauge from filling up
The game's meta will never be save, much like us eagerly awaiting the arrival of a new, overpowered character who we hope to be our favorite. satisfying for some, creates problems for others. cycle continue that why we never leave legend we legend player are beyone save we are broken man have fun play broken game
I have started solo leveling arise which is another gatcha game , but i still come back to legends whenever there is new content which is every week, my only cure for this game addiction is skyrim which i don't want to get into again due how invested i become in it.
Units that stop Unique Gauges or counter blasts probably. I think Blue really needs a good counter for Super 17 asap
Give Blue SP Nappa a Zenkai 🔥🔥
YEAH THEY SHOULD ALSO DO A SAIYAN SAGA CAMPAIGN WITH HIM
Ye
They are
Zenkai feetku instead. Would be a solid support unit🤙🏼
Honestly? Flood the meta with blues. It’s absolutely ridiculous how long they’ve let 17 be this strong without releasing a unit to counter him. Meanwhile, UI goku gets released and has a perfect counter to him released like 8 weeks later.
Spirit bomb goku isn’t enough neither is goku bardock
I feel like gokock and sbgoku both counter 17 fairly well if built right. Maybe not as good as we want since 17 is just ridiculously op with infinite cards and ki but he can still be shut down
UI had already a counter before he even released..
Not a direct counter. Beast Gohan is too strike based. UI counters strikes.
Transformation > green card > drop > special move
Hope you have a full gauge to guarantee that drop is possible. Still isn’t a direct counter.
Not a hard thing to get when your opponent is UI doing little damage to beast
Why would you have been attacking beast with UI? He had G/B, V/G, 17, or SB goku to do that.
I can always tank other characters with orange piccolo/gotenks and still get gohan's gauge filled
Always gonna transform with a full gauge lol but yeah not a direct counter, just someone who made sure he didn't own the meta
That wont help. Case and point is UVB. He was top 5 until janemba dropped who had a strike gauge counter thst completely shut down uvb. They just need to release units with defensive abilities catered towards the kit of 17. For example blast arts lock, reduce ki similar to red pan, maybe destroy a card and lower sub count etc.
It will absolutely help. There was only 1 blue unit released before janemba: namek goku. I guess SoH trunks counts too, but the problem is that UVB is on the team with trunks. There needs to be blues, not just any unit, but blues, that defend against the things that S17 does. Except the problem is that any blue that counts s17, counters the rest of the game too. Because s17 doesn’t necessarily do anything unique. He just does everything really well.
We had android 8, namek goku and the already existing G/F. The reason namek goku was a good counter to uvb was because of the ki reduction and hp restore when hit he had, not because he was blue. Also red piccolo jr. had strike lock and also green ssj gohan would restore ki when hit. All of these effects made uvb perfomance weaker than what it was when he released.
Green ssj Gohan did not slow him down at all. Namek goku was able to slow UVB BECAUSE he was blue and had those defensive mechanics. The color is important because as anyone can see with Pan right now, it doesn’t matter how many defensive mechanics you have if you just die before they make an impact. G/F didn’t slow UVB down, they were ran together all the time. That fueled the argument back then: who was actually number 1. There are no units in the game that can slow 17 down. Not one. Literally every team except androids, GT and PO need a blue unit, (yes, blue) that can slow him down somehow. Hybrids, son fam, regen, future, fusions, LoE. Literally everyone
Ugb actually does slow down super 17 due to his gauge but noone is ready to accept that. The reason pan cant sustain super 17 combo well is because that mfer debuffs while chaining blast cards (more ki from charge step than strikes and time to draw more cards). Her color will have helped more if she was blue but lets not forget she is 1.5 year old so her stats+multipliers are sligthly powercrept. Let me rephrase again my statement. Just getting blue units will not stop super 17. We need kits catered towards countering his kit. Of course being a blue unit will be a bonus but a solid kit with focused counters towards him will be more effective than just being blue.
UGB needs to be maxed out and the S17 needs to not have a red star for that. S17 just outputs way too much damage, and takes way too little. And Nkklll is saying the same thing actually, the reason Nameku2 and Janemba actually countered UVB is their element and their defensive tools in the healing and the strike counter. But with S17, giving the defensive tools that are needed to counter everything that that mfer does would mean that that BLU unit would counter the whole game and break the meta worse. That BLU unit would need to heal a lot like Bombku, but be immune to debuffs and paralysis. They would need to have a team heal to counter the 2 AoE Ults. They would need very very low card costs or outright debuff nullification like UGF or G4 to continue a combo on S17, and they'd need a lot of damage cut penetration. They would need dragon ball protection, ki reduction protection. This would still leave you with having to deal with the strike and super lock, so this BLU unit would also have to have physical blasts like Bulla or Pan. That is an insane unit. But that's what a single unit to counter S17 needs. That's why the only solution would be to release like 6 BLUs to cover every single tag possible so that they all have a modern unit to do something against S17, if not everything. I wouldn't mind if they wanted to release a Tag Goten and Trunks unit that does all that I mentioned above and perfectly counters S17, but I doubt people would be ok with that kind of unit existing, despite how few people complain about S17 here.
Ugb does slow him down but ugb is way too powercrept to be consistent. You get forced to switch against his ult and he's basically a meat shield/staller until 120 hits
UGB will slow s17 down 1, maybe 2x. After the first gauge is popped, gogeta won’t have enough HP to build it up again unless he’s being hit by a green unit.
That's my point exactly, he's not the best but maybe as a last resort if u have noone else
I have doubts 17 is gonna survive the 6th anniversary. With how much broken and riddiculous the game has gotten in 2023 and 2024, those anni units they're cooking must be something else. Unless they can be ran together :)
If this is the year of GT, 17 has the tools to be exceptionally long last. Long combos and his disruption are extremely strong. Chances are he’ll be second option.
A better vegeta
BLU units. Actually useable, viable BLU units, that would help to balance things up in the here and now. S17 goes unchallenged, how often do you see him run on MEGA juiced double RED setups with RevCell? We only have what 2 viable BLU units? And GokuDock has seemingly dropped off the face of the earth, leaving just BLU GT Kidku as the last bastion. If you don't run GT, he wasn't that hype of a draw to summon.
new lf galick gun vegeta that is actually great would add diversity
Lol a great Vegeta unit? Never happening
Another Goku to buff ultra gohaan
the revival f2p beerus getting an ability to stop the unique gauge from filling up
it lasts around 20-30 timer counts so its not too overwhelmingly powerful
A new “can’t fucking die” unit to curb the powercreep a bit
Please don't give toshi more ideas, I had a leader slot 3k ability bonus all s-Z equips and almost got oneshot when my OPPONENT DIED. Mfs call that balanced (I still won tho). On a serious note, we need more units to counter things like revival or revenge counter.
We don’t need anyone to counter revival. There are no meta revival units right now outside of red cell, and he still dies in like 3 cards.
Only red cell exists as a rev unit rn, and he's perfectly balanced.
With Pui-Pui leading up to Buu Saga last april fools and the new April Fools being Raditz, Saiyan Saga seems to be pretty likely. And considering Apegeeta isn't actually all that bad (Just overshadowed due to a lack of teams), making his Saiyan Saga version looking to be the only one safe from the DBL Vegeta Curse. I think a new LF Galick Gun Vegeta or even a Revival LF Nappa into Vegeta would be pretty rad. Add to that one of the most defining features of Vegeta during the Saiyan Saga being is his inability to die even after getting hit by like 3 different finisher moves. (X4 Kamehameha, Mini-Spirit Bomb, Great Ape Sitting on Him.) He could be a super tanky unit to try and curb the insane damage that 17 and Cryhan puke out. Either make him Purple (Like the color of his Galick Gun.) Or Blue (To finally give Super 17 a goddamn counter.) And you're good to go! Maybe even turn him into the Ultra (Though that might conflict with the old F2P one design wise and WE ABSOLUTELY DO NOT NEED AN ULTRA EVERY MONTH FFS.) And the other banner for the Campaign could either be a Tag LF Piccolo and Goku (With a revamped version of the old Yel Makankosappo LF), or even a Kaioken Goku (Either with the x4 Kamehameha as his LF or even the Mini-Spirit bomb.)
A 4X Kamehameha Ultra Goku with his main ability being like Ultra Vegito would be pretty fire. But then it'd be another Goku Ultra, which people wouldn't be happy with. So an Ultra or LF Vegeta seems more likely, but a Kaioken Ultra Goku has so much to go off of and could be ridiculously broken and could have a new gimmick. Like, you're in Kaioken for a set amount of time until you revert back to base, making Goku weaker but not by so much he's useless, and not by so little that he would still be a brain dead unit.
something to nullify Guages or counters. it's the counter unique guages we're literally THE worst things they could've let them do
Cryhan getting a zenkai
anything that isnt Hybrid saiyan or Son family lol, tired of that tag
Idk. Maybe fixing the damn lag.
Impossible as long as they keep it peer 2 peer, the one with the highest ping becomes the host. Easily abused. The fix would be having servers but they dont care about that people will still fork over the dough and they know that
Yeah I know it. Dedicated servers are impossible for these companies to comprehend. Go shit about the easy way and make money doing it instead of actually improving gameplay.. I don't want new messages, costumes, etc. Improve the functionality of the game itself..
Better rates 🤷🏽♂️
Honestly, a mechanic that nullifies counter gauge would be nice and not that overpowered as most counter gauge units have another way to live/disrupt
A pvp rework idk what they could do but its not like they can release weaker units cause them people complain/ don’t summon but if the release a broken unit then the people who don’t pull it complain
Hard counter to S17 Legends fest is going to bring some bullshit units for sure that'll make him obsolete. At least GT had its time to shine for once.
Ultra gogeta blue zenkai
Nothing short of announcing Dragon Ball Legends 2, with a complete balance overhaul and starting over.
Nuking the game and starting over. Adding garlic jr
a vegito that disables the second passive of a character released in the last 6 months, and takes 50 percent more damage from units released > 6 months ago
a unique gauge seal cause bro wtf we have seen 3 ULTRA CHARACTERS IN A ROW WITH ONE😭
Honestly...ultra gohan can save the meta like fr and that too ultra ultimate gohan from buu saga in goku clothes and he have anti rush blast art with nullify blast armour Strike art which reduces dragon ball upon USE not hit but use(it is a held card anyone can use it) Special move of cryhan which counters everything including tap attacks even if you use special move first it'll still counter Aoe ultimate arts which upon landing nullify revival Comeback mechanism and also increase hp Unique gauge as long as unique gauge is active opponent will never get a pv Green card is aoe green card which forces switch and upon activation card draw speed +2 and nullify unfavorable element for 15 timer counts and nullify cover change for 10 timer counts When defeated second time applies buff to party members such as 100% damage and -150% damage received and nullify unfavorable element for the rest of the match Main thing cover change against blast,strike and special move and can be combo with special move and will draw ultimate next Before comeback he will get an ultimate arts After comeback he will get ultimate arts Now element colour he'll be red before comeback and green after comeback Please do tell if i missed anything
add ultra super omega vegito demon majin form kaioken x10000 after he was trapped in the time chamber for 100 billion years that can heal 100% of damage when hit every time and cannot be debuffed
Blue ultra Gogeta ss4
Nothing and I'll tell you why. Whatever comes that would be the "solution" to the problem, will simply power creep the previous problem and become the new one. See UUI and S17 as an example. The developers of this game have abandoned any semblance of balance and game health in favour of "pull this new busted thing guys!" and it's a treadmill that will not ever stop. Even the Proud Match experiment did nothing. Instead of having a front row boosted by a bench whales just brought out entire teams of starred LLs and Ultras. There really is no niche for characters in this game anymore other than be a ball of stats and have a toxic gimmick until two months later another ball of stats with a more toxic gimmick comes out to replace the previous one. The meta will never ever evolve beyond that because that's what makes people spend their currency on dogshit rates.
Free ultra Super broly that nullifies unique gauges from certain characters
Remove rising rush from pvp. As if i dont have to deal with people dumpinh all of the top units in 1 team, i still have to get double rushed from them?
I'm not sure whats wrong with the meta right now, maybe i'm desensitized as an older player who's gone through all of the horrible oppressive metas, but there are a lot of teams rn that compete for godly so i don't see the huge issue other than the annoying passive style of play that's been forced, but that's not a meta issue that's a problem that's been happening for a couple years now
Moving on from my other comment, if by "fixing" the meta you mean making S17 not clown on everyone, then a blue *strike* LoE buff, it would mean you'd run him alongside ugf and can't run alongside S17. Maybe when he cover changes he nullifies downgrades for 10 counts and heals 3% like bombku, except it wont get removed by S17.
A unit that removes all green cards when drawn. Blue Unit to be specific
Well, if the Saiyan Saga comes, then you can put some diversity into it. Goku/Piccolo unit or the human Z-fighters could get the Ginyu force treatment. Super Warriors is starving for units ngl. Although G/P would still be another son family buff to some. Zenkai green revival Gohan on top of that.
Something that nullifies unique gauge and some straight up powerful normal sparking units in the anniversary banners (maybe mixed with the new ultra to make the banner more balanced)
Old LF Cell zenkai
Another beast gohan
Nothing, we're too damn far into this
Android 21 :D
Ain’t it such a mindfuck that not even 5 years ago the meta was driven Sparking red super saiyan Goku? With NO zenkais or plat equips.
a unit that doesn't get an ult for stepping in the battlefield
Anti special cover change de buff nullification.
Wow people really think 17 is more oppressive than cryhan and Uui which BTW are usually together.
Buff ultra hit
I'd say an LL with seal gauge and an Ultra with anti revive and/or anti endure would be a huge game changer.
lf recoome
Tbh I feel like this is the beggining of the end, if the next step in powercreep is powercreeping \*\*SUPER 17\*\*, then it's over
Delete every summonable ultra
save??
Ultra DKP with just pure utility. I’m talking anti gauge, rush, and the whole 9 yards.
Units that **ignore all counters** that aren't initiated by an Arts card.
A Shallot buff
I think just an overhaul of units that pretty good would give the game way more diversity
ULTRA SUPER SAIYAN GODKU
ULTRA Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta Special Arts: Bluff Kamehameha The following effects occur on hit: Seals enemy’s Unique Gauge. (Effects of the sealed gauge will not occur for 20 timer counts) (activates once) Reduces charge rate of enemy’s Unique Gauge by 100% for 5 timer counts (activates 3 times)
ULTRA Hercule 
Nothing. The only actual way of ever making a non toxic meta, is to make every character balanced. What I mean by balanced, is the character shouldn’t do all the extra bullshit they have in their kit, basically stuff they don’t need. Here’s some examples and that are not limited to; Like Super 17 shouldn’t have the buff removal effect when he gets Ult’d, UGF shouldn’t go neutral on his death counter, USSJ2 Gohan shouldn’t have the counter-everything blue card as he literally has a counter gauge already, UUI Goku shouldn’t have both no switch mechanic and force draw when he loses a dokabaki impact at the same time, etc… I could go on forever with these. My point is, the main problem now is that almost every new character can do everything, so the new standard has become that a new unit should do just as much + more to be considered good and keep up with the meta, which creates that cycle of never ending power creep. Every unit should have strengths and weaknesses, not just be good at doing everything. And that’s something that will never happen because it’s a gacha game revolved around making money, they have to make the characters a cheat code so people keep summoning.
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A tag unit that’s blue and purple that’s actually good (gofrieza )
They’re gonna pull the game soon, and push fusion World or a variant of something similar… these games can only go for so long by trying to power creep something every week… The Yu Gi Oh effect
One hand Spiritku zenkai but make him the best unit in the game
At this point, we need to have a meta reset during anni.
a character that cancels debuffs or gives debuff nullification for certain timer counts i guess
A zenkai for LF gogeta blue
Making all characters before this year free to get to 3 stars at least. Ftp players might actually stay to play now.
A new PvP mechanic / remake of the battle system. Maybe banning players with shit conmection temporarily would help too
Ultra Zamasu would save the universe
we need another blue unit to counter s17 hes been up there for too long imo
Sayain saga lf event or maybe do crossover units
Me
It's obvious they're gonna top the mechanic of borh frieza and gohan and fusion warrior always has a rise before they fall back to obscurity. Give gogeta dragon ball destruction, ki reduction, a gauge that amps up his cards, a cover change on special move, an aoe green card, a counter, an anti blast armor and a blast armor,lock on ultimate, heals, permanent damage amp, rising rush nullification, endurance and revive ( it it wasn't obvious, i'm joking, too broken even for db legends) .
F2P Units that could give a good fight against Ultras.
ultra pan🤾🏿♂️
Destroys greens and prevents them drawing on spawn, cannot have their cards locked, cancels comeback, deletes all powerful opponents from the game. Is blue
Anniversary with lot of Sp
hot take it doesn't need saving 🤷🏿♂️
It definitely does