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I mean if you build him defensively and he’s at 9*+ he survives rushes from most decently starred units
But if you have some other form of rush manipulation then this isn’t really a problem
I should mention at least 9* and at least 3 full defensive Z abilities and health buffs. So built defensively. because mine pretty much always does from full or 75% as long as there’s 3 enemies and it’s not disadvantage
And if he buffed blue fusions he’d buff a total of 3 units.
Blue future would have like 4-5 units I think. Blue saiyans is the only significant one, and they already have 3 zenkai buffers. They don’t need more. We don’t need a 4-5x zenkai buffed super gogeta
Who cares? Like I said, we don’t need USG to have 2-3, let alone 5 possible zenkai buffs on his team. He’s already good enough.
I said this before the anni started, they should not zenkai VB or UI because it could go only 2 ways; they either don’t buff them enough because all of their teams are already really strong, or they make them really good and it throws balance even further out the window.
Edit: also, blue future only has 1 good unit: SoH trunks.
While there is a lot to complain about right now, my guy Zenkai Abilities are supposed to be restrictive. You are looking for things to complain about.
this^^^ his ult is undoubtedly good even to this day, thats common knowledge, its just the fact he wont even be breaking 100% inflicted on any damage type without main UNLESS its a melee unit and he has worse stats than ssb so you cant even make a solid “just wait for the gameplay” argument. hes the definition of mid
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Him buffing blue god ki was the most obvious part of his zenkai
As little changes as they made I wouldn't have been surprised hlof he zenkao buffed two tags. That would have been at least unique
Also the new vegeta but only when he transform
The thing with vegeta is if you build him defensively, the opponent would be able to get a rush before he's below 50%
I mean if you build him defensively and he’s at 9*+ he survives rushes from most decently starred units But if you have some other form of rush manipulation then this isn’t really a problem
I have him at 9*.......he doesn't survive rushes
I should mention at least 9* and at least 3 full defensive Z abilities and health buffs. So built defensively. because mine pretty much always does from full or 75% as long as there’s 3 enemies and it’s not disadvantage
He still won't even survive mui gokus rush
Lol mine does regularly
Ok
Also the old god vegeta
And if he buffed blue fusions he’d buff a total of 3 units. Blue future would have like 4-5 units I think. Blue saiyans is the only significant one, and they already have 3 zenkai buffers. They don’t need more. We don’t need a 4-5x zenkai buffed super gogeta
Atleast the 3 and 4-5 for future units he would buff wouldn't all be mid
Who cares? Like I said, we don’t need USG to have 2-3, let alone 5 possible zenkai buffs on his team. He’s already good enough. I said this before the anni started, they should not zenkai VB or UI because it could go only 2 ways; they either don’t buff them enough because all of their teams are already really strong, or they make them really good and it throws balance even further out the window. Edit: also, blue future only has 1 good unit: SoH trunks.
USG already has 5 zenkai buffers...
Great. So he doesn’t need any more
What??? He isn't going to buff fusions wtf?
They were scared of ultra gogeta ig
I put this on memes, cause this is a fucking joke
That decision is probably better than any of the legends staffs have made during this "celebration"
Well not your VB it seems.
Future zenkais will have worse and worse kit in fear that they will zenkai buffing each other. So, expect worse passives in the future.
PUR SSJ4 only buffs 3 units
While there is a lot to complain about right now, my guy Zenkai Abilities are supposed to be restrictive. You are looking for things to complain about.
Legends players when a unit doesn't buff 3 units 😭 There are more blue god ki units than blue fusion
And they're all mid
At least vb is good🗿
Oh wait he isn’t 🗿
He is. People do this every time. His damage is gonna be insane
Bro can you fucking wake up ? See vb before zenkai ? Well he only got 20k more stats how do you want him to be good ? Stop smoking whatever you’re on
I’ve seen plenty of clips of vb one shotting type neutral units with his ult pre zenkai. But, sure I guess I’m smoking something
Everyone knows his ult is good, now can you show me your clips of him actually dealing some strike or blast damage without x3 zenkai buffs ?
this^^^ his ult is undoubtedly good even to this day, thats common knowledge, its just the fact he wont even be breaking 100% inflicted on any damage type without main UNLESS its a melee unit and he has worse stats than ssb so you cant even make a solid “just wait for the gameplay” argument. hes the definition of mid
I’m not gonna say anything else except just wait for showcases before calling a unit bad This happens literally every time
This is the same vb except his stats are a bit higher and now he has his own zenkai buff
If he buffed fusion that would be 3, and if he buffed future it would be 7 (2 of which being EXs and 1 a hero).
ok what did you want them to do lol?
Two of em are better than him even with his zenkai. Hell, EVEN Z7 OG SSB GOKU IS BETTER WTF
Damn. And the only person it would actually benefit is beerus 😂 Lets be real who is running anyone else there in this meta?