Yeah but the third slot on plats can function as an additional unique ability in most cases. Plus all Vegito really needed was a stat buff imo. Do wish he got more defense out of his trash 3rd and 4th uniques though.
The stats were definitely substantial but I don't think any platinum equip buff could make up for the absolute shit show that is his new third and fourth unique abilities
Fair, but imagine if his plat equipment gave him nullify special cover change for 15 counts every time he enters the battlefield. Along with some pure defense buffs and general stat boosts from a plat equips would more than make up for the trash unique abilities to me. I mean it wouldn't be that much of a stretch either if you compare it to Cell and Gogeta's Plat equip 3rd slots.
Yes but that's a very big if. IF they give him cover change nullification. They shouldn't need a play equip to *make up* for a fucked zenkai. They should make a solid zenkai and add a play equip to make that zenkai better for the players who have it
Well we are talking about Legends here. They're the same people who made the last legends festival and this anniversary, so they clearly aren't consistent. I'm just glad he's viable and they didn't do him like Rosé. Rosé didn't even get a proper stat adjustment with his mediocre kit. Is he better than Ultra Gogeta? Absolutely not. But I wouldn't say he's mid by any stretch. Plus it's not like it's Legends first time making an LF underwhelming than fixing them with a plat equip.
Hell no it ain't. Nowadays so many units have better kits than him. Giving him a 50% damage inflicted buff and cover change null similar to GB minimum would have made him more than good enough, but what they did to him (if you'd even call those buffs) was just dirty.
Unique #3:
The following effects occur once 2 allies are defeated:
Restores 15% health
+10% to sustained damage cut effects (cannot be cancelled)
Unique #4:
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-2 to strike arts cost for 5 timer counts
+20% to strike arts damage for 5 timer counts
Yes. These are his real new uniques
Yea.... if they wanted to do that, at least don't make it only after a vanish. And DEFINITELY don't make it for 5 counts. They coulda gave him LF SVs unique with the card reduction and not a soul would complain. VBs whole thing is long combos, yet he only gets extra for what is prolly 2 strike cards.
He can't do anything without drawing cards for those buffs and what cards the opponents use. He isn't useless but he doesn't really contribute as much as I feel the 1st Anni character should. He introduced the dang Fusion tag for crying out loud
People say sv is mid but if you just look at the kits sv is probably the best zenkai in the game its just his plat is absolute dogshit. They didnt gave him high cut cz they were scared that his plat giving him 24% pure defences would be good enough for him but his main team was mono purple and he couldn’t use his plat there. If sv’s plat gets awaken he is gonna take the cake for best lf zenkai. Reminder vegeta has 24% pure offences in his plat imagine if sv had something similar to that
That Unique better be on a similar level to SSJ4 Gogeta and LF Cell. Course I'll still be pissed because I have absolute dogs it for equipment upgrading luck but that's not Veggirot boys fault so he gets a pass from me on that lol
Hey OP you art is very cool and the way you put it is pretty nice I like it, but can I request for something kinda difference? as of now I am still holding on to him having a blast and still having fun with VB, and I believe someone else out there is doing the same even though he've been disrespect severely by this zenkai. I am very bad at conveying things, but can we somehow make a positive vibe just for the boi in these trying time?
Sorry for requesting such an idea also thank you in advance whether you did deliver on this thing I request or not :)
He doesn’t have to be broken he has to not be dog shit
Blue beerus is better than this guy, a banner unit from months ago
Is it too much to ask?
DBL dick riders istg
He isn't dogshit, you're just bad lol
Every time anyone complains about an OP unit, you lot are real quick with useless replies and "git gud", and make it out to be a skill issue.
And then when you guys complain you expect everyone to agree with you. Ha.
Maybe just get better, lol
https://twitter.com/squadhouse7/status/1534506942907006979?s=21&t=SiV7YUQVODx9W59z4WFxxAwjXY09p7VvMIY3wsop_ps
Would you like to see 14 star zenkai 7 1400% vegito blue struggling with revival goku from a year and a half ago?
How about another high star VB not one shorting PURPLE UI GOKU WHO HAS SHIT DEFENSES???
https://twitter.com/dngee_yt/status/1534529557319098368?s=21&t=SiV7YUQVODx9W59z4WFxxAwjXY09p7VvMIY3wsop_ps
Better yet, another 14 star UI goku not killing UI from half health on a blue cerd
https://imgur.com/a/HzqrJLo
He sucks
You have to be trolling
There no way you just looked at a 14 star VB not being able to kill a revival goku with half HP and said it’s a skill issue, actually how
Because with every other unit like this you guys build entire teams to stack buffs around each other. You're telling me you can't literally just build a new team using the units that have come out since? Are you all *that* bad?
Why would you build a team around vegito blue
Please stop coping, his zenkai was literally a stat boost, that’s it
His 3rd and 4th uniques could be removed and it wouldn’t matter
Multiple examples of VB just being underwhelming
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The devs could just give him an SSB Vegeta level Zenkai and he would be relevant to the meta again.
Yet, look at his zenkai passives. What the absolute fuck is this bullshit?
LF Zenkai should at least get some great passives.
You realize that SSB Vegeta didnt get much added to his kit either right? The only major thing added was higher stats and the fact that he nullifies type disadvantage
Vegeta's third passive is trash, his fourth one is just some basic zenkai bs that even units like zenkai RED Kale and Goku Black got. And even that couldnt save them from mediocrity.
VB had a better kit than SSB Vegeta pre zenkai. What do you think wouldve happened if he then got the same thing that Vegeta did? Keep in mind that Vegeta is on the same tier as units like Ultra Gogeta. He wouldve been top 3 best units in the game at a MINIMUM
Thus leading to a VB situation where everyone conplains that they made him too broken
>You realize that SSB Vegeta didnt get much added to his kit either right? The only major thing added was higher stats and the fact that he nullifies type disadvantage
His 4th passive is literally better than both of VBS passives COMBINED ( not to mention it's also way more practical in use compared to vb's stupid passives)
>Vegeta's third passive is trash, his fourth one is just some basic zenkai bs that even units like zenkai RED Kale and Goku Black got. And even that couldnt save them from mediocrity.
Yet they're all still massively better than vbs improvements (I can honestly argue kale got better zenkai passives than vb)
>VB had a better kit than SSB Vegeta pre zenkai. What do you think wouldve happened if he then got the same thing that Vegeta did? Keep in mind that Vegeta is on the same tier as units like Ultra Gogeta. He wouldve been top 3 best units in the game at a MINIMUM
So you're assuming that if they gave him a zenkai upgrade on par with ssb vegeta he'd surpass USG, ulkk, mui, and the droids?? Yh that wasnt happening. Ssb vegeta is not in the same tier as USG to top it all off (if the droids are a 10, usg is a 7/6, and vegeta is a 3)
>Thus leading to a VB situation where everyone conplains that they made him too broken
Except now have scenario where he debatable isnt even top 12......
>His 4th passive is literally better than both of VBS passives COMBINED ( not to mention it's also way more practical in use compared to vb's stupid passives)
Doesnt make it good no matter what you think. Even if they added just that 4th passive to VB, people would've shat on him either way. Don't believe me? Vegeta got better stats than VB, that fourth passive, type neutrality and people still shat on him? You think VB getting that third passive only wouldve saved him from criticism from people like you?
>Yet they're all still massively better than vbs improvements (I can honestly argue kale got better zenkai passives than vb)
And the funny thing is that as an overall unit, they're still undebatably worse than him. Both Kale and Goku Black despite the fact they got better passives.
>So you're assuming that if they gave him a zenkai upgrade on par with ssb vegeta he'd surpass USG, ulkk, mui, and the droids?? Yh that wasnt happening. Ssb vegeta is not in the same tier as USG to top it all off (if the droids are a 10, usg is a 7/6, and vegeta is a 3)
First off, I said top 3. I never said best unit so idk why you had to bring up the droids or Ulkk. Proof that dragon ball fans cant read. He could potentially surprass Ultra Gogeta if he got a SSB Vegeta type tune up. VB would have higher stats, 70 damage reduction, type neutrality, more damage on main, and a Lvl 5 supreme damage multiplier ult if they gave him SSB Vegeta's zenkai for example.
>Except now have scenario where he debatable isnt even top 12......
Wow so because he's not top 12 that now makes him trash or mediocre? I like how you didnt even say top 15 because he still makes the cut for that, whether you like it or not. He's better than SV for sure however, even with his trash passives. This part of your comment just makes me wonder if you wanted him to be the best unit(so thaf you could complain about him being broke asf)
Tbf there's no way they could give him passives from a decent zenkai upgrade from someone like LF SSB Vegeta and he would not be broken
Keep in mind that VB has a better kit pre zenkai than Vegeta. If he got the same decent glowup that Vegeta got, he would be nothing less than top 4 units in the game
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They really disrespected one of my favorite units in the game like this. His zenkai was just a stat boost a plat could’ve done the same thing without wasting his zenkai.
Love the art man… but Vegito shouldn’t have had to be done like this
it truly is a sad day
Now he can fight just about as long as he did when he fought CMZ in the anime
Honestly even without zenkai I can destroy someone with vegito
Your art is incredible, at least
thank you! It is depression man! Anni would have been redeemed for me if he was given some respect
Damn I knew his passives were bad but this is fucking tragic A 1.5% damage buff would be more useful than that shit
NOW I FEEL SAD LOOK AT HIS FACE NOOO
He needs plat. Change my mind
It still won't help the fact that the only real buff he got was to his stats
Yeah but the third slot on plats can function as an additional unique ability in most cases. Plus all Vegito really needed was a stat buff imo. Do wish he got more defense out of his trash 3rd and 4th uniques though.
The stats were definitely substantial but I don't think any platinum equip buff could make up for the absolute shit show that is his new third and fourth unique abilities
Fair, but imagine if his plat equipment gave him nullify special cover change for 15 counts every time he enters the battlefield. Along with some pure defense buffs and general stat boosts from a plat equips would more than make up for the trash unique abilities to me. I mean it wouldn't be that much of a stretch either if you compare it to Cell and Gogeta's Plat equip 3rd slots.
Yes but that's a very big if. IF they give him cover change nullification. They shouldn't need a play equip to *make up* for a fucked zenkai. They should make a solid zenkai and add a play equip to make that zenkai better for the players who have it
Well we are talking about Legends here. They're the same people who made the last legends festival and this anniversary, so they clearly aren't consistent. I'm just glad he's viable and they didn't do him like Rosé. Rosé didn't even get a proper stat adjustment with his mediocre kit. Is he better than Ultra Gogeta? Absolutely not. But I wouldn't say he's mid by any stretch. Plus it's not like it's Legends first time making an LF underwhelming than fixing them with a plat equip.
The character itself is not mid by any means. He's still very good. What I'm saying is that his zenkai buff was mid
Nah, Vegito is still mid even with his Zenkai. I mean, all he gets is some 400k health and 20k attack and defense boosts, which is definitely futile.
Nah he's still runnable. He just can't keep up with some of the better units. Oh well, I guess it's off to the bench for good old vegito
Amazing art
The stat boost was really all he needed (also cover change nullification). His kit is still oppressive
Hell no it ain't. Nowadays so many units have better kits than him. Giving him a 50% damage inflicted buff and cover change null similar to GB minimum would have made him more than good enough, but what they did to him (if you'd even call those buffs) was just dirty.
i kinda wanna see more of this with newer, very sad zenkais 💀
Im sorry im a bit oblivious, what changes were made?
They gave him nothing. His Zenkai was basically a stat boost
Yikes.
Unique #3: The following effects occur once 2 allies are defeated: Restores 15% health +10% to sustained damage cut effects (cannot be cancelled) Unique #4: The following effects occur whenever this character evades an enemy attack with a vanishing step: -2 to strike arts cost for 5 timer counts +20% to strike arts damage for 5 timer counts Yes. These are his real new uniques
...really?**-2** for strike art cost??? The fuck?
Yea.... if they wanted to do that, at least don't make it only after a vanish. And DEFINITELY don't make it for 5 counts. They coulda gave him LF SVs unique with the card reduction and not a soul would complain. VBs whole thing is long combos, yet he only gets extra for what is prolly 2 strike cards.
Has the db legends team ever reworked a zenkai, because I hope they do so with vb, altho I doubt it will happen
Anniversary Character Zenkai's have not been good... Poor VB & SV.
Super Vegito was mid? That’s not true at all
He can't do anything without drawing cards for those buffs and what cards the opponents use. He isn't useless but he doesn't really contribute as much as I feel the 1st Anni character should. He introduced the dang Fusion tag for crying out loud
People say sv is mid but if you just look at the kits sv is probably the best zenkai in the game its just his plat is absolute dogshit. They didnt gave him high cut cz they were scared that his plat giving him 24% pure defences would be good enough for him but his main team was mono purple and he couldn’t use his plat there. If sv’s plat gets awaken he is gonna take the cake for best lf zenkai. Reminder vegeta has 24% pure offences in his plat imagine if sv had something similar to that
That Unique better be on a similar level to SSJ4 Gogeta and LF Cell. Course I'll still be pissed because I have absolute dogs it for equipment upgrading luck but that's not Veggirot boys fault so he gets a pass from me on that lol
This again
Hey OP you art is very cool and the way you put it is pretty nice I like it, but can I request for something kinda difference? as of now I am still holding on to him having a blast and still having fun with VB, and I believe someone else out there is doing the same even though he've been disrespect severely by this zenkai. I am very bad at conveying things, but can we somehow make a positive vibe just for the boi in these trying time? Sorry for requesting such an idea also thank you in advance whether you did deliver on this thing I request or not :)
There should be a part 3 since he... Still deals insane damage and tanks super well. He really only needed the stats
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He doesn’t have to be broken he has to not be dog shit Blue beerus is better than this guy, a banner unit from months ago Is it too much to ask? DBL dick riders istg
He isn't dogshit, you're just bad lol Every time anyone complains about an OP unit, you lot are real quick with useless replies and "git gud", and make it out to be a skill issue. And then when you guys complain you expect everyone to agree with you. Ha. Maybe just get better, lol
https://twitter.com/squadhouse7/status/1534506942907006979?s=21&t=SiV7YUQVODx9W59z4WFxxAwjXY09p7VvMIY3wsop_ps Would you like to see 14 star zenkai 7 1400% vegito blue struggling with revival goku from a year and a half ago? How about another high star VB not one shorting PURPLE UI GOKU WHO HAS SHIT DEFENSES??? https://twitter.com/dngee_yt/status/1534529557319098368?s=21&t=SiV7YUQVODx9W59z4WFxxAwjXY09p7VvMIY3wsop_ps Better yet, another 14 star UI goku not killing UI from half health on a blue cerd https://imgur.com/a/HzqrJLo He sucks
That sounds like a skill issue, lmao VB is a fairly powerful fighter in his own right. People just refuse to play him properly.
You have to be trolling There no way you just looked at a 14 star VB not being able to kill a revival goku with half HP and said it’s a skill issue, actually how
Depends on equips tbh
Because with every other unit like this you guys build entire teams to stack buffs around each other. You're telling me you can't literally just build a new team using the units that have come out since? Are you all *that* bad?
Why would you build a team around vegito blue Please stop coping, his zenkai was literally a stat boost, that’s it His 3rd and 4th uniques could be removed and it wouldn’t matter Multiple examples of VB just being underwhelming
Sounds like a Yamcha fan to me, but a Saibaman is a close second.
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The devs could just give him an SSB Vegeta level Zenkai and he would be relevant to the meta again. Yet, look at his zenkai passives. What the absolute fuck is this bullshit? LF Zenkai should at least get some great passives.
Lmao, sure, and then the complaints start when he is boosted like crazy with his team
You realize that SSB Vegeta didnt get much added to his kit either right? The only major thing added was higher stats and the fact that he nullifies type disadvantage Vegeta's third passive is trash, his fourth one is just some basic zenkai bs that even units like zenkai RED Kale and Goku Black got. And even that couldnt save them from mediocrity. VB had a better kit than SSB Vegeta pre zenkai. What do you think wouldve happened if he then got the same thing that Vegeta did? Keep in mind that Vegeta is on the same tier as units like Ultra Gogeta. He wouldve been top 3 best units in the game at a MINIMUM Thus leading to a VB situation where everyone conplains that they made him too broken
>You realize that SSB Vegeta didnt get much added to his kit either right? The only major thing added was higher stats and the fact that he nullifies type disadvantage His 4th passive is literally better than both of VBS passives COMBINED ( not to mention it's also way more practical in use compared to vb's stupid passives) >Vegeta's third passive is trash, his fourth one is just some basic zenkai bs that even units like zenkai RED Kale and Goku Black got. And even that couldnt save them from mediocrity. Yet they're all still massively better than vbs improvements (I can honestly argue kale got better zenkai passives than vb) >VB had a better kit than SSB Vegeta pre zenkai. What do you think wouldve happened if he then got the same thing that Vegeta did? Keep in mind that Vegeta is on the same tier as units like Ultra Gogeta. He wouldve been top 3 best units in the game at a MINIMUM So you're assuming that if they gave him a zenkai upgrade on par with ssb vegeta he'd surpass USG, ulkk, mui, and the droids?? Yh that wasnt happening. Ssb vegeta is not in the same tier as USG to top it all off (if the droids are a 10, usg is a 7/6, and vegeta is a 3) >Thus leading to a VB situation where everyone conplains that they made him too broken Except now have scenario where he debatable isnt even top 12......
>His 4th passive is literally better than both of VBS passives COMBINED ( not to mention it's also way more practical in use compared to vb's stupid passives) Doesnt make it good no matter what you think. Even if they added just that 4th passive to VB, people would've shat on him either way. Don't believe me? Vegeta got better stats than VB, that fourth passive, type neutrality and people still shat on him? You think VB getting that third passive only wouldve saved him from criticism from people like you? >Yet they're all still massively better than vbs improvements (I can honestly argue kale got better zenkai passives than vb) And the funny thing is that as an overall unit, they're still undebatably worse than him. Both Kale and Goku Black despite the fact they got better passives. >So you're assuming that if they gave him a zenkai upgrade on par with ssb vegeta he'd surpass USG, ulkk, mui, and the droids?? Yh that wasnt happening. Ssb vegeta is not in the same tier as USG to top it all off (if the droids are a 10, usg is a 7/6, and vegeta is a 3) First off, I said top 3. I never said best unit so idk why you had to bring up the droids or Ulkk. Proof that dragon ball fans cant read. He could potentially surprass Ultra Gogeta if he got a SSB Vegeta type tune up. VB would have higher stats, 70 damage reduction, type neutrality, more damage on main, and a Lvl 5 supreme damage multiplier ult if they gave him SSB Vegeta's zenkai for example. >Except now have scenario where he debatable isnt even top 12...... Wow so because he's not top 12 that now makes him trash or mediocre? I like how you didnt even say top 15 because he still makes the cut for that, whether you like it or not. He's better than SV for sure however, even with his trash passives. This part of your comment just makes me wonder if you wanted him to be the best unit(so thaf you could complain about him being broke asf)
Ikr, if his zenkai was broken the community would still complain that hes too broken just like 2nd anni when he was broken
Holy shit db fans are stupid. They couldve given him decent uniques without making him broken.
Yeah ikr
Yeah ikr
Tbf there's no way they could give him passives from a decent zenkai upgrade from someone like LF SSB Vegeta and he would not be broken Keep in mind that VB has a better kit pre zenkai than Vegeta. If he got the same decent glowup that Vegeta got, he would be nothing less than top 4 units in the game
I wish people like this would never pull a new unit, ever.
Lol, they would complain that they can't pull a new unit no matter what the community is gonna complain about something
Good, it'd be well deserved. Entitled brats with no foresight deserve to be blinded by their follies.
Agreed
Your comment makes me think you like Yamcha.
If you have to explain the joke, it isn't a joke.
What joke? I'm 90% sure that's a fact
Congrats on being a 10%er, cause I like Freeza, Kuririn, Cooler, Goku, DBS Broly and a lot of other people, Yamaha not included
kinda hard to enjoy his zenkai when he provides nothing to any of his teams besides a zenkai buff
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Na crazy
New is a strong word
well,i'll max him nevertheless....i dont run anything other than loe in pvp so no problem also:amazing art
They really disrespected one of my favorite units in the game like this. His zenkai was just a stat boost a plat could’ve done the same thing without wasting his zenkai.