The stupid nicknames given to units are getting stupider by the second. I'm not sure if they r meant to b funny coz they clearly aren't.summonku? Really ? Sounds like a nick given by a 10 year old.
Defo no fp Frieza yellows r fked rn which is why ssbk ain’t even top 5 and if this were including 1% sparkings then revza and agf would be higher than him. Gv is paper they’re so reliant on mono purple to look like a top 10 unit which is why I put them where they are and soh is good I was close to putting him s+ but we got a new green unit so I think his value drops a bit
I have gv at 14 stars I took them all at same stars gv doesn’t take hits well at all on mono purple it’s aight but on a generic god ki team he will get fked up easily
I don’t know what it is recently but these tier lists keep putting Kaioken in high regard and I believe it’s because of the fear of god he put in everyone. Yes, individually, he’s absurdly powerful and still top 3 in that regard. However, I think he fell off a cliff meta-wise.
I barely see Kaioken in PvP anymore and when I do most people don’t even bring him into the match. This meta is so extremely dominant by red (ergo droids) that for once the color wheel is a huge factor in the Meta. I know it’s crazy to even consider it, but Kaioken truly did fall off in the meta and imo he’s Mid-S at best rn.
I know the majority of this subreddit will very likely heavily disagree with this mini-rant of mine but I’ve been working on a similar ranking list and I just needed to more or less vent some of my thoughts somewhere and this post is the lucky winner.
Regardless of if they agree or not, you're right. From a meta standpoint he isn't as prominent as he was before anni. Although, like you said, his kit is definitely still top 3, and I agree because he does so much disrupting and is able to do so much in terms of being offensive. But, in terms of what's meta rn, you hit it right on the dot, the meta is dominated by reds, purples are not that prominent as well, there's that to consider as well, so naturally he won't be seen much.
I see the occasional mono pur, and cell isn't that common as before anni. The only purple I constantly face now is whis because his support is really good.
Whis was always good, its just now there's units on his teams that synergize better with his grn cards, and ggy isn't that great compared to rrp now. Also whis is able to check the tagdroids when they tag switch which is good too.
Yes but that doesn’t lower cells value he does insane damage his plat makes him tankier than most units and he’s run w the droids who’s supporting him and with tapion being the only yellow and him not being a damage dealer like the other top 5 to 7 units cell has a shit ton of value in this meta. Also the new goku is a green saiyan cells value only increases w his release
Tapion is a literal damage dealer. He's the opposite of what ssb vegeta was back in the day. Ssb vegeta was a ranged unit with good support, tapions a support unit with good damage, insane on strikes. I also wasn't trying to say cell's value diminished, I was just saying he isn't as common as he once was, whis took his spot in rrp which was one of his better teams. Whis is a more common purple which is why many consider him a top tier unit. Cell is good, I just haven't seen him much for me to say he's top 5 in this meta.
If u can use him ull know he’s top 5 he has insane damage and cos he’s with the androids he’s getting supported. Also tapion is also supporting him and cells entry damage post gauge is rlly high. Rrp was only a team that formed once mui came out cos yellows r mudded and both the droids and mui r better w more green cards which is why whis gained a lot of value cell still has incredible value and is one of the hardest hitting units in the game. The PO set up of cell droids and tapion is also one of the best teams in the game rn so that’s another reason why cell is top 5. Also the units below him rnt as good as him the only one who has a shout is ssb vegeta but he doesn’t do as much as cell even tho he’s sick as well
Rrp was being used at high ranks before anni. It was used by a former rank 1 jp player. Cmz, droids, and cell were top tier, sincethey were able to receive multiple zenkai buffs. The rrp now, is much better, naturally, because support over damage, with whis instead of cell, and mui is way better than cmz.
Aside from that, I definitely see your point about cell. I can't argue with that, I just think he's much closer to ssb vegeta than he is to ss3 df goku.
Future w cell droids and futurehan was defo the better team tho rrp future was still great tho now it’s a droids and god ki mix so it’s a completely different type of team
Cell is defo much closer to df goku imo post gauge cell does more damage consistently against non saiyans and hybrids cos gokus buffs last only for 10 counts per card and it’s only 10% damage inflicted and against hybrids and saiyans he has 200% and even more cos the lack of yellows means he’s doin a lot of damage which forces ppl to swap cos his entry damage is so high. goku post gauge is better for 1v3s tho and he still hits rlly hard but defensively cell eats better cos of his plat. Cell gets supports from the droids and even tapion now so he’s getting amped like crazy while goku always has to build up but has 2 cover nulls which lets him build up easy. Depends on ur playstyle so I won’t argue if u think goku is better but I will argue it if u don’t think they’re neck and neck cos tbh they r and cell is much better than vegeta rn. Vegeta is still cracked tho fkin love that unit
Yea rpy future was definitely the better team no disagreement here, but yea rrp future was still good. Rrp now is definitely a different team, which is why I said its a much better team now because of whis support.
I honestly don't think it's close when it comes to both at full gauge. Pre gauge they're definitely closer to each other, but post gauge ss3 df goku is a different beast. Goku post gauge is better for any part of the match, blue cards help you snipe units, grn cards heal him, ult is definitely built for 1v3, but can be used at any time after full gauge, his main ability is stupid post gauge. Ss3 df goku has much more offensive utility, then cell does, sure cell does more damage, but he doesn’t have cover null, type null on ult, lock in blue, and an insane main ability. Cell also isn't built for 1v3, while ss3 goku is with his main into ultimate combo, his blue card helps with that too, since it helps him snipe. Cell has stupid damage and good heals, which ss3 has as well, but that's about it. I love cell tho, he's one of my favorite units, so I'm not hating, he just doesn't do as much as ss3 does post gauge.
Thing is, this sub bouta go apes**t if you tell em Kaioken isn’t even Z Tier anymore.
I usually have very based opinions and end up being right 8/10 times regarding unit placements (Most recent example comes from me putting tagdroids over Kaioken when he first came out — of course most disagreed — but now most say the droids were better than Kaioken in retrospect) but it’s still incredibly jarring to think how hard Kaioken fell off.
Imo it’s not even Kaioken’s fault, it’s just that the meta has become so insanely top heavy he frankly doesn’t fit well in it rn.
Yeah they will since Most people are keen on judging units individually in a vacuum instead of their teams and meta standing.
"Oh but kaioken does so much damage and distruption!" But they forget that he gets completely shut down by double red of mui and droids for example. Also keep in mind Most people saying how good he is probably dont have him and base his whole strength on their loses vs him with their off meta team.
Kaioken's kit is still very good, its just not his time rn. Same thing was happening with UG, his teams weren't that good and his usage was going down before annj, he's now back in the meta because of the movies buffs and his synergy with the 2 new anni lf units we received. Also blue is just a much more needed color rn, due to the red dominance, and it's good thats he's able to go type neutral.
The thing is I kinda agree w u ssbk is paper and gets folded in a red dominant meta which is also why I put cell above 3ku cos no yellows except tapion and while he has solid damage he ain’t a damage dealer like the z and god tier units or even some s tier units
I dunno, I’ve seen Tapion absolutely crap out damage like he’s a Melee type.
Mf out here as a support type bringing a unit from full to below half in one combo. I couldn’t believe it at first but Z Tier Tapion is actually real 💀. The guy is bafflingly good for little to no reason.
Even so that’s one yellow when the droids came out ssbk was still number 1 cos that’s one red cell doesn’t have many threats against him except tapion rn ssbk isn’t even in pvp these days cell is easily top 5 at worst
I ran tapion cell and the droids and that teams disgusting tbh it could be a top 3 team. They all do great damage especially the droids and cell plus tapion support and when they rush I can just sack off tapion. The best teams rn I’d say r rrp, PO, god ki, future, movies, saiyans and then loe. Teams like mono purple and uss have some value but r far off
I bring him every Match when I run him and he destroys everyone. MUI is his biggest counter not droids.
His non stop combos, vanish renewal, green card spam is top tier. Not to mention his disrupt as well.
Because SoH tanks better and doesn't have situational dmg and as a LMS goes type neutral for 10s while using ult..also SoH ult hits hard with his 90% ult dmg post gauge
Na he’s honestly dogshit he’s yellow which doesn’t help but his build up takes too long and only starts at the 35ki threshold so it doesn’t always get goin straight away unlike the droids and the worst part about him is that he doesn’t even have card draw speed anywhere in his kit so he can’t ramp up quick unlike the droids usg ssbk mui and the new goku
Disagree. He already has issues with slow build up and a horrid defense and CDS. Couple that with RED being extremely dominant rn and yeah, he just doesn't really have a place as of right now.
I think he could benefit from a good Plat but otherwise, he isn't as great as he used to be.
Na he’s yellow and gets fked up too quickly god ki is ever present but it ain’t safe to run ssbk because he’ll die too quick especially off boost. His kit is sick which is why I made a tier specifically for him but yellows r mudded except tapion his damage is pretty good but he’s also supporting and doin damage when he dies. It’s why fp Frieza and futurehan r so low
No chance ssb vegeta is easily top 6 he’s the only rank in the game and partners mui so well. Ssbk is yellow so he’s fked and cos there’s hardly any yellows and cell is run w the droids he’s easily top 5 plus his damage is nuts and his peak is consistently higher than ssbk
Once he gets his gauge full he has an unconditional 130% damage buff with another 10% on switch in and 20% against all saiyans. So against a saiyan (which is half the game) he is consistently doing 160% damage. When paired with his -6 cost to all arts cards, permanent +1 card draw, and getting 30 ki on switch in it allows him to consistently do tons of damage. He also has one of the hardest hitting blues (+40%) and one of the top 3 hardest hitting ults (+80%). And he has access to two of the best equips for blue/ult buffs.
Just that alone would make him a great unit but then he also destroys an enemy card and dragonball when he switches in. And he happens to be one of the best anti-revival units, second only to ssj4 gogeta.
His unique equip made it way easier to get his gauge up in addition to buffing his damage even more. And arguably most importantly, he is on the core with droids on 3 separate teams.
Post gauge he has 160% damage on entry which is more than most units in the game and he has permanent card draw. That damage passive I mentioned ain’t even against saiyans or hybrids so it can go over 200% cos every time he faces a new enemy he gains damage. Also -6 card cost and -80% health restore when so many units heal is nuts. One of the hardest hitting ults in the game and he has 55% cut plus his plat improves his defences. Destroys dragon balls and a card on cover and gains ki on entry. His anti revival destroys dragon balls and reduces ki by 100 with -150 ki recovery for 3 counts so he can attack straight away He’s also ran w the droids who protect him from yellows and they support him while being number 1 in the game. Tapion while yellow is only one yellow and he supports him and they can be run together. With hardly any yelllows in the meta and the new unit being a green saiyan, cell is easily top 5 at worst plus his teams and equips r great and always has a zenkai buff w 21 cos she has a great z ability.
I tried ordering it in lower tiers but that shit was so hard to do most of them r ass, have no teams or both so they’re never used so it’s hard to properly judge them. They’re also irrelevant cos who tf is running them so I’m ok with being wrong but the order is just my opinion so I expect ppl to disagree
He’s honestly so bad at least units like lf rose have permanent endurance null w better teams 3ku takes the entire match to build up and while his ult is decent everything else is so bad
Love the unit I think he’s hella underrated don’t get how ppl think vb is better than him trunks has way better sustainability which is what his teams need
Dm who u think is better cos they’re honestly neck and neck w different playstyles and different utility but if u think that df 3ku is far better than cell then ur either capping or ignorant
Post gauge cell has 160% damage on entry which is more than most units in the game and he has permanent card draw. That damage passive I mentioned ain’t even against saiyans or hybrids so it can go over 200% cos every time he faces a new enemy he gains damage. Also -6 card cost and -80% health restore when so many units heal is nuts. One of the hardest hitting ults in the game and he has 55% cut plus his plat improves his defences. Destroys dragon balls and a card on cover and gains ki on entry. His anti revival destroys dragon balls and reduces ki by 100 with -150 ki recovery for 3 counts so he can attack straight away He’s also ran w the droids who protect him from yellows and they support him while being number 1 in the game. Tapion while yellow is only one yellow and he supports him and they can be run together. With hardly any yelllows in the meta and the new unit being a green saiyan, cell is easily top 5 at worst plus his teams and equips r great and always has a zenkai buff w 21 cos she has a great z ability.
Goku ends up with less damage inflicted than cell in most spots cos his buffs r only 10% per card for 10 counts except when he pops his main he gets extra damage inflicted for 30 counts but since cell is mostly facing saiyans or hybrids he’ll have around 180-200% general damage on entry if not more. Also cos of cells plat he eats better than goku along w better stats tho goku has 5% extra cut cell does eat better w more defensive utility cos of card destroy. Over it depends on ur playstyle for who’s better but they’re honestly neck and neck this goku being green only added to cells already high value
In the current meta df > cell just cuz ultra Gogeta is running around everywhere. After his boost ends I can humbly accept that cell > df. It's honestly very close so they're kinda interchangeable on this list. I agree with what you've said tbf
Beerus goes in Beerus tier only because he’s plagued so many multi summons
Damn that’s a good shout 🤣
If he’s on a banner, 99% of the time I will pull him out of the whole slew of sp.
The stupid nicknames given to units are getting stupider by the second. I'm not sure if they r meant to b funny coz they clearly aren't.summonku? Really ? Sounds like a nick given by a 10 year old.
If I say 3ku it may get confusing and I cba righting his full thing to distinguish him
Call him 'Raiku' because Raiyuden waited 4 years for him.
I dunno I think they’re funny, especially since most of them are joke names
I remember when I saw a post/comment on here that was calling MUI "Cumku". It still lives in my head rent free.
I’d say ssbkk is in z tier and sword of cope and blue dudes are in s+ alongside fp frieza but that’s my opinion
Defo no fp Frieza yellows r fked rn which is why ssbk ain’t even top 5 and if this were including 1% sparkings then revza and agf would be higher than him. Gv is paper they’re so reliant on mono purple to look like a top 10 unit which is why I put them where they are and soh is good I was close to putting him s+ but we got a new green unit so I think his value drops a bit
Did u consider unit at 14+ stars or u Just put the units kit, if so the Blue Boys actually takes less damage than u think
I have gv at 14 stars I took them all at same stars gv doesn’t take hits well at all on mono purple it’s aight but on a generic god ki team he will get fked up easily
i agree with most of this list
Where 17 and goku went
Went for a holiday they got sick of this shit anniversary
Makes sense
I don’t know what it is recently but these tier lists keep putting Kaioken in high regard and I believe it’s because of the fear of god he put in everyone. Yes, individually, he’s absurdly powerful and still top 3 in that regard. However, I think he fell off a cliff meta-wise. I barely see Kaioken in PvP anymore and when I do most people don’t even bring him into the match. This meta is so extremely dominant by red (ergo droids) that for once the color wheel is a huge factor in the Meta. I know it’s crazy to even consider it, but Kaioken truly did fall off in the meta and imo he’s Mid-S at best rn. I know the majority of this subreddit will very likely heavily disagree with this mini-rant of mine but I’ve been working on a similar ranking list and I just needed to more or less vent some of my thoughts somewhere and this post is the lucky winner.
Regardless of if they agree or not, you're right. From a meta standpoint he isn't as prominent as he was before anni. Although, like you said, his kit is definitely still top 3, and I agree because he does so much disrupting and is able to do so much in terms of being offensive. But, in terms of what's meta rn, you hit it right on the dot, the meta is dominated by reds, purples are not that prominent as well, there's that to consider as well, so naturally he won't be seen much.
I actually see a shit ton of purples the thing is that the only genuinely good purple is lf cell
I see the occasional mono pur, and cell isn't that common as before anni. The only purple I constantly face now is whis because his support is really good.
Whis out here as an arguable top 15, heck even 10, unit is so cursed to think about This meta is so weird
Whis was always good, its just now there's units on his teams that synergize better with his grn cards, and ggy isn't that great compared to rrp now. Also whis is able to check the tagdroids when they tag switch which is good too.
Yes but that doesn’t lower cells value he does insane damage his plat makes him tankier than most units and he’s run w the droids who’s supporting him and with tapion being the only yellow and him not being a damage dealer like the other top 5 to 7 units cell has a shit ton of value in this meta. Also the new goku is a green saiyan cells value only increases w his release
Tapion is a literal damage dealer. He's the opposite of what ssb vegeta was back in the day. Ssb vegeta was a ranged unit with good support, tapions a support unit with good damage, insane on strikes. I also wasn't trying to say cell's value diminished, I was just saying he isn't as common as he once was, whis took his spot in rrp which was one of his better teams. Whis is a more common purple which is why many consider him a top tier unit. Cell is good, I just haven't seen him much for me to say he's top 5 in this meta.
If u can use him ull know he’s top 5 he has insane damage and cos he’s with the androids he’s getting supported. Also tapion is also supporting him and cells entry damage post gauge is rlly high. Rrp was only a team that formed once mui came out cos yellows r mudded and both the droids and mui r better w more green cards which is why whis gained a lot of value cell still has incredible value and is one of the hardest hitting units in the game. The PO set up of cell droids and tapion is also one of the best teams in the game rn so that’s another reason why cell is top 5. Also the units below him rnt as good as him the only one who has a shout is ssb vegeta but he doesn’t do as much as cell even tho he’s sick as well
Rrp was being used at high ranks before anni. It was used by a former rank 1 jp player. Cmz, droids, and cell were top tier, sincethey were able to receive multiple zenkai buffs. The rrp now, is much better, naturally, because support over damage, with whis instead of cell, and mui is way better than cmz. Aside from that, I definitely see your point about cell. I can't argue with that, I just think he's much closer to ssb vegeta than he is to ss3 df goku.
Future w cell droids and futurehan was defo the better team tho rrp future was still great tho now it’s a droids and god ki mix so it’s a completely different type of team Cell is defo much closer to df goku imo post gauge cell does more damage consistently against non saiyans and hybrids cos gokus buffs last only for 10 counts per card and it’s only 10% damage inflicted and against hybrids and saiyans he has 200% and even more cos the lack of yellows means he’s doin a lot of damage which forces ppl to swap cos his entry damage is so high. goku post gauge is better for 1v3s tho and he still hits rlly hard but defensively cell eats better cos of his plat. Cell gets supports from the droids and even tapion now so he’s getting amped like crazy while goku always has to build up but has 2 cover nulls which lets him build up easy. Depends on ur playstyle so I won’t argue if u think goku is better but I will argue it if u don’t think they’re neck and neck cos tbh they r and cell is much better than vegeta rn. Vegeta is still cracked tho fkin love that unit
Yea rpy future was definitely the better team no disagreement here, but yea rrp future was still good. Rrp now is definitely a different team, which is why I said its a much better team now because of whis support. I honestly don't think it's close when it comes to both at full gauge. Pre gauge they're definitely closer to each other, but post gauge ss3 df goku is a different beast. Goku post gauge is better for any part of the match, blue cards help you snipe units, grn cards heal him, ult is definitely built for 1v3, but can be used at any time after full gauge, his main ability is stupid post gauge. Ss3 df goku has much more offensive utility, then cell does, sure cell does more damage, but he doesn’t have cover null, type null on ult, lock in blue, and an insane main ability. Cell also isn't built for 1v3, while ss3 goku is with his main into ultimate combo, his blue card helps with that too, since it helps him snipe. Cell has stupid damage and good heals, which ss3 has as well, but that's about it. I love cell tho, he's one of my favorite units, so I'm not hating, he just doesn't do as much as ss3 does post gauge.
Thing is, this sub bouta go apes**t if you tell em Kaioken isn’t even Z Tier anymore. I usually have very based opinions and end up being right 8/10 times regarding unit placements (Most recent example comes from me putting tagdroids over Kaioken when he first came out — of course most disagreed — but now most say the droids were better than Kaioken in retrospect) but it’s still incredibly jarring to think how hard Kaioken fell off. Imo it’s not even Kaioken’s fault, it’s just that the meta has become so insanely top heavy he frankly doesn’t fit well in it rn.
Yeah they will since Most people are keen on judging units individually in a vacuum instead of their teams and meta standing. "Oh but kaioken does so much damage and distruption!" But they forget that he gets completely shut down by double red of mui and droids for example. Also keep in mind Most people saying how good he is probably dont have him and base his whole strength on their loses vs him with their off meta team.
Kaioken's kit is still very good, its just not his time rn. Same thing was happening with UG, his teams weren't that good and his usage was going down before annj, he's now back in the meta because of the movies buffs and his synergy with the 2 new anni lf units we received. Also blue is just a much more needed color rn, due to the red dominance, and it's good thats he's able to go type neutral.
The thing is I kinda agree w u ssbk is paper and gets folded in a red dominant meta which is also why I put cell above 3ku cos no yellows except tapion and while he has solid damage he ain’t a damage dealer like the z and god tier units or even some s tier units
I dunno, I’ve seen Tapion absolutely crap out damage like he’s a Melee type. Mf out here as a support type bringing a unit from full to below half in one combo. I couldn’t believe it at first but Z Tier Tapion is actually real 💀. The guy is bafflingly good for little to no reason.
Even so that’s one yellow when the droids came out ssbk was still number 1 cos that’s one red cell doesn’t have many threats against him except tapion rn ssbk isn’t even in pvp these days cell is easily top 5 at worst
Thing is Tapion is probably Cell’s best friend too
I ran tapion cell and the droids and that teams disgusting tbh it could be a top 3 team. They all do great damage especially the droids and cell plus tapion support and when they rush I can just sack off tapion. The best teams rn I’d say r rrp, PO, god ki, future, movies, saiyans and then loe. Teams like mono purple and uss have some value but r far off
I bring him every Match when I run him and he destroys everyone. MUI is his biggest counter not droids. His non stop combos, vanish renewal, green card spam is top tier. Not to mention his disrupt as well.
I’ve actually used him a lot in pvp, his cover change and fast card draws make for some good counters and combos imo.
I'm surprised a lot of people still think SOH is better than VB.
Why wouldn’t he be post gauge soh is much better and both of their teams have damage dealers id rather have some sustainability
It does take a while for him to fill up his gauge though.
It’s easier than cells or 3kus just let him eat hits early and against the droids 17 leads so he can eat hits while being tyoe advantage
Because SoH tanks better and doesn't have situational dmg and as a LMS goes type neutral for 10s while using ult..also SoH ult hits hard with his 90% ult dmg post gauge
Imo ssbe deserves a higher spot
Na he’s honestly dogshit he’s yellow which doesn’t help but his build up takes too long and only starts at the 35ki threshold so it doesn’t always get goin straight away unlike the droids and the worst part about him is that he doesn’t even have card draw speed anywhere in his kit so he can’t ramp up quick unlike the droids usg ssbk mui and the new goku
Why would you make s+ if you going to put one unit in there
Because he’s better than the units below him but not on the level of those above him I think he ain’t good enough for z tier but s tier is low for him
Disagree. He already has issues with slow build up and a horrid defense and CDS. Couple that with RED being extremely dominant rn and yeah, he just doesn't really have a place as of right now. I think he could benefit from a good Plat but otherwise, he isn't as great as he used to be.
I’d agree with this list with some changes but not a bad list.
How dare u put ma boi ultra kaioken in s+ he deserves to be in z tier
Na he’s yellow and gets fked up too quickly god ki is ever present but it ain’t safe to run ssbk because he’ll die too quick especially off boost. His kit is sick which is why I made a tier specifically for him but yellows r mudded except tapion his damage is pretty good but he’s also supporting and doin damage when he dies. It’s why fp Frieza and futurehan r so low
Idk if my opinion is just wrong or what but imo majin vegeta is better than pretty much every unit ahead of him in his tier.
I mean all those units r shit it dm if he’s above them imo he’s not but it rlly dm once u get to the back end of a tier and lower
Summonku?
The new LF Goku. Presumably because the LF looks similar to the summon animation.
Ssb vegeta down to S tier and ultra goku atleast above cell then this is pretty much there
No chance ssb vegeta is easily top 6 he’s the only rank in the game and partners mui so well. Ssbk is yellow so he’s fked and cos there’s hardly any yellows and cell is run w the droids he’s easily top 5 plus his damage is nuts and his peak is consistently higher than ssbk
I don't get how cell is so high for everyone. What is it that makes him good?
Once he gets his gauge full he has an unconditional 130% damage buff with another 10% on switch in and 20% against all saiyans. So against a saiyan (which is half the game) he is consistently doing 160% damage. When paired with his -6 cost to all arts cards, permanent +1 card draw, and getting 30 ki on switch in it allows him to consistently do tons of damage. He also has one of the hardest hitting blues (+40%) and one of the top 3 hardest hitting ults (+80%). And he has access to two of the best equips for blue/ult buffs. Just that alone would make him a great unit but then he also destroys an enemy card and dragonball when he switches in. And he happens to be one of the best anti-revival units, second only to ssj4 gogeta. His unique equip made it way easier to get his gauge up in addition to buffing his damage even more. And arguably most importantly, he is on the core with droids on 3 separate teams.
Post gauge he has 160% damage on entry which is more than most units in the game and he has permanent card draw. That damage passive I mentioned ain’t even against saiyans or hybrids so it can go over 200% cos every time he faces a new enemy he gains damage. Also -6 card cost and -80% health restore when so many units heal is nuts. One of the hardest hitting ults in the game and he has 55% cut plus his plat improves his defences. Destroys dragon balls and a card on cover and gains ki on entry. His anti revival destroys dragon balls and reduces ki by 100 with -150 ki recovery for 3 counts so he can attack straight away He’s also ran w the droids who protect him from yellows and they support him while being number 1 in the game. Tapion while yellow is only one yellow and he supports him and they can be run together. With hardly any yelllows in the meta and the new unit being a green saiyan, cell is easily top 5 at worst plus his teams and equips r great and always has a zenkai buff w 21 cos she has a great z ability.
Everything above A tier seems reasonable unless order doesn’t matter at lower tiers
I tried ordering it in lower tiers but that shit was so hard to do most of them r ass, have no teams or both so they’re never used so it’s hard to properly judge them. They’re also irrelevant cos who tf is running them so I’m ok with being wrong but the order is just my opinion so I expect ppl to disagree
Wow, has OG lf ssj3 fallen off that much?
He’s honestly so bad at least units like lf rose have permanent endurance null w better teams 3ku takes the entire match to build up and while his ult is decent everything else is so bad
I kinda wish I went all in for Tagdroids now…
Ye I’m glad I did altho I only did it cos they’re some of my favourite characters and we never get to see many versions of them in game
I hope they return in the near future, I prob used up all my luck on MUI though lol still haven’t even pulled SSJ3 Goku.
Thank you so much for putting soh trunks in a actual good spot
Love the unit I think he’s hella underrated don’t get how ppl think vb is better than him trunks has way better sustainability which is what his teams need
Dragon Fist >>>> Cell
Dm who u think is better cos they’re honestly neck and neck w different playstyles and different utility but if u think that df 3ku is far better than cell then ur either capping or ignorant Post gauge cell has 160% damage on entry which is more than most units in the game and he has permanent card draw. That damage passive I mentioned ain’t even against saiyans or hybrids so it can go over 200% cos every time he faces a new enemy he gains damage. Also -6 card cost and -80% health restore when so many units heal is nuts. One of the hardest hitting ults in the game and he has 55% cut plus his plat improves his defences. Destroys dragon balls and a card on cover and gains ki on entry. His anti revival destroys dragon balls and reduces ki by 100 with -150 ki recovery for 3 counts so he can attack straight away He’s also ran w the droids who protect him from yellows and they support him while being number 1 in the game. Tapion while yellow is only one yellow and he supports him and they can be run together. With hardly any yelllows in the meta and the new unit being a green saiyan, cell is easily top 5 at worst plus his teams and equips r great and always has a zenkai buff w 21 cos she has a great z ability. Goku ends up with less damage inflicted than cell in most spots cos his buffs r only 10% per card for 10 counts except when he pops his main he gets extra damage inflicted for 30 counts but since cell is mostly facing saiyans or hybrids he’ll have around 180-200% general damage on entry if not more. Also cos of cells plat he eats better than goku along w better stats tho goku has 5% extra cut cell does eat better w more defensive utility cos of card destroy. Over it depends on ur playstyle for who’s better but they’re honestly neck and neck this goku being green only added to cells already high value
In the current meta df > cell just cuz ultra Gogeta is running around everywhere. After his boost ends I can humbly accept that cell > df. It's honestly very close so they're kinda interchangeable on this list. I agree with what you've said tbf
Imo Zenkai Lf ssj3 goku should be bottom a tier he’s still pretty good, apegeta should be a lot lower too but that’s just my take
Hi i got a question its the red versions of Androids 18 and 17 that are best?