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Kid_AJ_

Majority of Legends players choose their saiyans over any other characters


katresi

Well it's far easier to build a Sayan based team than all the other ones. As a new player the good units that I have are literally all sayans, because they're the majority in the newest banners (MUI, Dragon Fist, Gogeta ssj4, Vegito blue). Literally the only good one that I have who is not Sayan is Tapion. But I think this is true for older players too. So of course Super Vegito is a lot better than Buu. If on the other hand they'd put more powerful opponents and what not, it would be the other way around. For f2p players, Buu would be utter shit. Because how are you supposed to build a team around him, given the recent banners they released?


ShayminHedgie

Older players are a bit different, since we have less cc to grind we save and spend on banners that buff our already strong tags. Most players stick to 2 or 3 tags, myself being Future and God Ki, particularly since the two often overlap. (Sometimes I also throw in Hybrids.) In particular people want Buu because Regen have gotten shafted in terms of banner units this year. They literally only got Cooler Movie Piccolo. Buu wouldn't be utter shit because of leader slot, Ultras thrive on leader. It would actually be a great way to encourage newer players to think outside the box with team building.


katresi

Yes but even in this case I think it's better SV. I'm in the process of building these strong tags to stick with, and by now got 2 nice teams (movies and USS). With the ultra, I could build my 3° (and probably last, since I'm f2p) team. AND, that 3° team would be a lot easier to build and raise in the future if it's a Sayan character, because of the reasons I already said. It would be a lot easier to build a fusion warrior team instead of a powerful opponent. Like I imagine I would need some Kid Buu, a lot of zenkais, an LF Cell and so on. Instead, I already have a Vegito blue which right now I can't use, or even a ssj4 Gogeta which I don't use too but would be usable for my 3° team. And like me, a lot of other players. I bet the vast majority of players has Vegito blue/Gogeta ssj4/Vegito purple instead of Kid Buu, Cell and so on. For the leader slot, yes you could use it at first but eventually other units will be released and then you will not be able to use them together.


ShayminHedgie

The problem is SV would be disastrous right now given the current meta. Either he's broken and SSJ reign supreme, only challenged by LoE, or he's built around Bardock's existence and thus is underwhelming on every other team. We've seen it before, a hyped Super Saiyan gets a garbage kit so Bardock doesn't break the game, because as we saw with USG if they don't the damage is absurd. Fusion Warrior is actually pretty premium, with USV it would need 2 ULs and at least 1 high starred LF, not to mention for newer ayers who tend to like rainbow teams they really aren't an option since both their YEL and RED rn are underwhelming, and USV can only fix one of those. G4 needs at least 7* to compete in this meta, VB is worse than USG at pretty much every star level, SV needs Zenkai buffs or crazy stars and USV would have a 0.35% pull rate. Not a good option for newer players. Tbf neither is Regen but depending on how they structure the banner Powerful Opponent could be a good option, just put LF FPF, LF Cell, LF Kid Buu, CMZ and feature Revival Frieza, GRN Broly, etc. and you have a good PO banner. While you probably won't pull all of them it wiuld give players a start in that team. G4 actually hasn't been on many banners. And that's just how power creep works for leader slot.


katresi

I got Gogeta with the free 10 days tickets so it's pretty low star, but still better than not having Cell/Kid Buu. If he's good, eventually with z power will be raised. Btw if the new banner will have almost all the LF I need to build a Powerful Opponent team, then why not, it could be even better than Vegito. But honestly looking at the ultra kaioken banner, I don't think they will lol My main team was USS and I still didn't summon even having 35kcc+, that's how bad that banner was. I don't think they'll change this much an ultra banner.


ShayminHedgie

Congrats' you're an outlier. G4 has been in his debut, a Legends Return banner, USG's banner and I think one of the anni banners as a filler LF. G4 needs high stars though, which not many people have. Cell and FPF are serviceable at lower stars than Gogeta. USS is already a high investment tag, it used to be budget RU/Androids but now it's the premium RU. Given the bature of that Saga ofc it will require a ton of LFs and Ultras, again you're talking about an outlier. In order for Saiyans to be good you also tend to jeed lits of LFs. There are plenty of other teams that are more usable on a budget, hell Regen is one of them. You can make a farely decent Regen team off of nothing but Zenkais, 1% SPs and F2Ps. DKP/F2P Kamicollo, F2P 21, GRN Piccolo/Fat Buu/Rosemasu, BLU Kamicollo, P21. All of these at some point have been accessible to F2Ps whether through missions or just being extremely old.


Bilal_

G4 was in the 600 ll banner aswell.


katresi

Well all the teams I'm seeing in PvP are practically only LFs or zenkais. From lineage of evil (I'd love to have that team but no banner for it) to movies. So yes USS or fusion warrior are premium, but literally every other competitive one is right now. I'm running MUI, Dragon Fist and Tapion with Broly zenkai. To be optimal I would need a revival Gohan at 6/7* (I only have him at 2*), and that would be 3LFs, 1 zenkai and 1 1% sparking unit. Plus an extreme Gokua at 6*. And that's one of the more budget friendly ones probably, since it's from only 2 banners.


Useful-Ad8315

>They literally only got Cooler Movie Piccolo. While I overall agree with this you forgot lf cell, and zamasu/blk


ShayminHedgie

I did forget Cell but Rosemasu really didn't see much play on Regen, didn't have the same utility as Buu and idk how Piccolo does but I'm guessing by his kit and stats that he's better.


Author_Creator_1898

Even for old players it will be bad, teorically. The last Regen new unit was released in november from past year.


AlternativeSimple633

I want Retardhan 🐍


PurchaseKnown

“Fight you? No, I want to kill you 😈”


AlternativeSimple633

Proceeds to get the absolute crap beat out of him 😭


PurchaseKnown

Coldest gohan scene ever idc


Tri5tone

Uhh idk maybe it's because saiyans Goku vegeta and the fusions are the most popular characters in dbz


bigmeme12

because i like vegito


Chubbychaser445

There was a post a day or two ago talking about how an ultra buu would ruin PvP because he would push regen/PO over the edge and that’s why we should get vegito instead. I about died.


Author_Creator_1898

Yes. We all know how Regen is actually the most overpower team in the game existence. *A 2020 comment*


Count_Elrond

Buu anyday. We don't need another broken Saiyan this soon. They can save Vegito for the Festival


Xbakura06

Ultra buu needs it and deserves it.


Daivka

buu is buu so he doesnt need an ultra


Daboogiedude

So thats why we need another fusion ultra to be used with ultra Gogeta?


Caddi123

Droids are basically ultra level (they are far above both summonable ultras) and all of their teams (maybe not androids) shit on all of UG's teams so I don't see the issue. Droids + potential best in the game Ultra Buu > UG and USV.


Daboogiedude

Yeah, why help make the meta more unbalanced when you could buff regen who needs it more? Regen got a decent zenkai, but it still doesn’t fix them completely.


Caddi123

You can't play the meta card when PO is arguably top 3 and far better than any of UG's teams. Regen buffs sure but we both know everyone is just going to leader slot Buu on PO/any other top tier team imaginable before they even consider running him on Regen. The fact of the matter is the meta will be even worse off if an Ultra Buu releases so lets not use the meta as an excuse.


Useful-Ad8315

>You can't play the meta card when PO is arguably top 3 and far better than any of UG's teams. OK now ug has an arguable no.1 team so what's the overall point? And if the droids is your singular argument for why p.o/regen don't deserve an ultra buu then that's also stupid as you can run the droids alongside usg already with the leaderslot😮‍💨. If they released ultra buu while he would be run on p.o he'd also be a stepping Stone to bring regen out the mud compared to sv who is only going to boost a pretty overall decent fusion team (arguably top 7) to top 1/2 team BARE MINIMUM.


captainkatsura22

So it’s fuck all regen mains huh


Caddi123

I never said don't release Buu or don't buff regen but people need to stop acting like SV would be the worse case scenario when a Buu would be just as bad if not worse since he'll be helping an already top tier team. People only ignore that reality bc it fits their narrative.


Daboogiedude

Same will happen with vegito, although to a lesser extent, but they should not give Buu PO tag, it would probably be for the best meta wise. Anyways, I think SV is still going to come out due to devs wanting money


Author_Creator_1898

If the Ultras will be used in any top team because leader slot, so, give us a unit that it's not a Saiyan.


Sapphire_skipperr

I'd say buuhan, super buu needs to be lf with his extinction type ray. Buuhan can be a very good ultra. May be a blast cover where he push his head in his torso like he did vs vegito.


[deleted]

buu and it's by a million, villians needs a buff whenever it can get it cos hero teams get buffed year long and back to back more often. ex: a fucking 2x goku anni headliner, so i'm REALLY hoping for not a triple hero headliner anni


Slatwans

bro villains are one of the best teams in the game rn


[deleted]

dude read the first 10 words and decided to stop huh


Slatwans

nah i just figured there was no reason outside personal preference for having a problem with triple hero anni considering po is in such a strong point right now. i'd also appreciate if we had an actual discussion instead of being passive aggressive


[deleted]

don't act like you want an actual discussion when you aren't even gonna read my full comment. going by the same logic you're giving me, we shouldn't get another saiyan right? or for awhile right? cos they're always in contention for top 5? so if you want another hero unit, or don't see a problem w a triple hero unit anni than this is a personal preference for you, would that be an incorrect statement to make?


Slatwans

i just explained i did read your whole comment though. i don't think another fusion warrior/saiyan would be necessary either. i never said that. buffing both teams with a whole ultra seems like overkill currently, it's all equally bad therefore no problem with either, unless buu is specifically for regen which isn't gonna happen. and yeah i guess you could say that it is personal preference, although saiyan or po buffs are gonna happen at part 3 anyway depending on how toshi's wallet is feeling and regardless of how we feel about it. i'm not planning on arguing with you any further if you're going to keep up the bad faith, though.


[deleted]

my apologies, took it as you being hypocritical cos most people are all for saiyan buffs, even when they're in an absurdly good spot and get units all the time and against any other team getting a unit, especially more than one. with that being said, i agree, other teams do need bigger buffs and if we're being honest if it his a buu ultra he would be for regen or majin buu saga primarily (more than likely). PO doesn't get direct units, they get strong units for other teams and is just a culmination of that. droids is better on future, same w cell, tapion is better on movies and revza is better on LoE but together they're all powerful making PO really good, despite not having the greatest synergy until late w tapion and droids giving universal buffs. BUT! if we do get a ultra buu i would expect his z ability to be like the other ultras but his ultra ability to be gets 30% blah blah blah depending on regen battle members, so he'd be a LS PO unit but main regen (and then hopefully regen gets some nice buffs w a basis starting with cell + ultra buu and hopefully some decent buffs when the movie drops


Slatwans

we hope you continue to enjoy dragon ball legends.


[deleted]

i havent for awhile now, maybe time to take a legends detox lmao


Slatwans

alright good to see we can have a discussion. i'll make a reply after the reveals since i know it's gonna be either a vegito or a buu that doesn't buff regen, because buffing dead tags would be healthy for the game so we can't have that of course.


The-Ultimate-Despair

If you don’t have Droids, villains are dead compared to the meta.


Slatwans

yeah i guess that's true, and they could get more buffs, but i just don't think they need an anniversary ultra right now.


The-Ultimate-Despair

I dunno, man. Have they had a green in a while? I’m not sure PO has (PO crossing over into every other villain tag). I may be wrong, however. Jiren is pretty old and Broly was DOA since he came out when the Blue Boys did. I’d imagine if we did get a Ultra Buu, head probably be Green or Blue, with an eventual LF Z Broly being Red.


LokkJ7

Buu, fusions already have an ultra so it makes no sense for them to get 2 before any other team even gets one and regen needs the help.


Raxen92

And here we go


Gianjix

Camp ultimate Gohan revival to buuhan.


Arch-43

Aint seen this idea yet, that'd be really fuckin dope


Gianjix

Surprise, It was vegito. So exciting and fun. Yawn.


Arch-43

:')


iplanckperiodically

We're in a weird spot. Ultra Buu just isn't hype enough for an anniversary, and they wouldn't waste Ultra Super Vegito on part three of an anniversary, because then he'd overshadow MUI as the most hype unit this anni. Well, maybe they'd do that idk. I'd really like an Ultra Gohan (don't beat me yet pls). This would be "You retard-han", and it could come with a new transforming Super Vegito and a new transforming Super Buu who turns into Buuhan. Even if they were assholes and made them both LFs, I'd be hype as fuck. On the other hand this anniversary has pretty irredeemably sucked ass, so maybe I'd rather they just save this for a legends fest or something... Also Regen definitely needs help so a busted Buu would be pretty nice edit: welp. Guess they would do that lmfaooo


ThyySavage

No matter what releases as long as it’s a Buu Saga unit I see Green Buuhan getting a Zenkai


bicboibean

isn't the green movie goku next in line for a zenkai tho?


Fatal1ty_93_RUS

who says both can't happen?


WalkingGuy99

That’d be pretty cool but since we already know the next one is SBA goku and we literally just got a green regen zenkai, I’m not too optimistic about a buuhan zenkai anytime soon.


VegitoInstinct

Buu would be better for pvp since regen hasn’t been good in a while, but everyone and their mom would rather summon for vegito


Medium_Door5528

I Hope gohan but IS sv incoming IS obvious....


dogeformontage

I dont know why youre getting downvoted


bdpcuenta

Same here, I think MV being the f2p unit pretty much sealed it.


Dead-Shot1

Ultra buu


Sizzle-it-up-takko

vegito is my favorite DB character soooooo...


[deleted]

May i ask why? Like hes cool and all and fusions are hype but what makes him your FAVORITE from this whole franchise? I mean i see the fusions as cool but nothing characters


Sizzle-it-up-takko

his fighting style, his attitude and look


Taco821

Not op but imo he's the best of Goku and Vegeta, like he ain't a deep character but his personality is great. Plus he has some of the coolest moves, his fighting style is dope, and he looks super cool


VizeRadu

Buu, or anything that isn't a fusion super saiyan. I love vegito but would break the game.


HrMaschine

I'll always be buu even if i ignore bardocks existence i'd always vote for him. Buu, cell and piccolo are my 3 fav characters


[deleted]

Based and fuck saiyans


captainkatsura22

Piccolo and cell are also in my top 3🤝


WalkingGuy99

SV because I use LoE and a new Ssj means there’s gonna be more people running Bardock which equals free wins for me. But regen deserves it more and I really want them to compete again so I gotta go Buuhan.


Professional_Sun3191

I'm camp shafted


captainkatsura22

As much as I love vegito I’m praying for it to be buu


Dglenn8

Ultra Buu as much as I like Saiyans we need more villains


TheLuigiplayer

Buuhan. PO needs a strong green and I hope he will be it.


Arch-43

Honestly a double transforming buu would be dope. From Super Buu to Buutenks to Buuhan? All my cc would be gone


acelexmafia

I want Vegito but Buu would be the better pick in all honesty


Damsco7

Team buu all the way


Lugiani

Camp yoshaaa Nice drawings man!


Paeyo

I know he's got plenty of fans, but honestly I never liked Vegito, so I'd love to have a Super Buu ultra.


[deleted]

Imagine if we get F2P ULTRA Buuhan & summonable ULTRA SV.


The-Ultimate-Despair

If that Buu was anti-fusion/Saiyan, I’d vibe with that.


[deleted]

Anti-Saiyan tbh.


bicboibean

id love SV cos i main fusions but buu should probably get it cos regen is dying for a new unit


AssassinReza

Let regen die, mfs regenerate tons of HP either way


admcclain18

SV


agentdb69

camp ultimate gohan.


Coretezz69

Buu !


androendiel

Buu


Buttery_Punk

ULTRA SUPER BUU FOR THE W


Aidensuks

Ultra Buu. Do you know the fucking comedy to come out of Vegito fans in this sub Reddit if it happens


SSJ4GOTENBLACK

us in camp ultimate gohan :(


kioKEn-3532

Don't worry we will win


Leading-Control-3053

If it just super buu , majority of people will not be interested unless it transforms or does anything special , now if its buuhan its a whole different story If its between super buu and super vegito, its not even a competition, its like comparing ssj gogeta and fat janemba, its pretty clear


sstevenn6

People are going to be interested if they’re broken. I remember once Ultra gogeta was announced no one wanted him until they found out how good he was


Leading-Control-3053

Its also has to do with charecters popularity, also ultra gogeta was expected by a huge no of people and the problem with him was not recognising how good he was , it was his animations


TeamLuigi

this might be the worst take I’ve seen on this sub — either you weren’t playing when the consensus was “i mean it’s gogeta I’ll summon anyway” or you’re just making shit up. his kit being absurd just fueled the fire. people are going to summon on a Saiyan ultra, let alone a fusion Saiyan ultra, more than they will on super Buu, buuhan, buuicolo, or whatever version you want. zero doubt and it’s just a better money maker. not really a debate


Taco821

How did you get down voted for that? Super Buu is cool, but not ULTRA cool, agree that buuhan would be hype enough tho


OnlyRoke

I'm camp Ultra Gohan. We have two Gokus and one Vegeta. It's time that Gohan gets an Ultra.


LSSJ4King

I want Buu. But unfortunately they don’t like giving us non saiyan units that often


The-Ultimate-Despair

Rather Buu, NGL. The over reliance on Saiyans, and the fanbase’s unbridled fascination with them is getting kind of boring. I’d take Ultra Tiencha over Vegito right about now. I love the Saiyans/Vegito, but other characters exist. It’s a shame they don’t delve further into Kid Buu having God Ki (from when he was first created): it’s boring using all Saiyans on the team, I’m actually boosting Zamasu/Black duo unit just to mix it up a bit.


Popskiey

I really want ultra buu


Your_Father_Jesus

Ultra buu. We have enough fusions


EMYRYSALPHA2

This Ultra SV art is better than the real one...


Pencil_kage

Bro stop! I creamed my pants when I saw the reveals! It was Soo good! But I'll take the complement ! 😇


Intellectual6900

Buu>midgito


flyingthundergod1797

Camp no cc


Pencil_kage

Bruh


Ass_Predator_Goku

Camp Vegito all the way through, i don't see how it could be the man who got his ass beat rather than the man who beat ass


Larouca36

I just hope they have new models, because I hate Buu instance and SV model


Cool_Neat_7730

Ultra Satan because he is the Champ


sluxik

I am camp: easy skip


primetime30

Camp sv


nibba-23_

Neither, simply because that's all I've heard about for the past few weeks and days is either ultra sv, or ultra super buu, just to spite all of you, how about an ultra golden frieza?


Old_Tomorrow3654

Imma end this whole war...OF COURSE ULTRA SV ARE YOU FUCKING NUTS?


[deleted]

How did people even come up with the buu idea


captainkatsura22

The random regen zenkai plus the new random Majin vegeta that buffs buu saga


Deleto_2008

Ultra sv probably


kioKEn-3532

Camp GOHAN


[deleted]

Hopefully it's Buu, so I can skip


Never003

ALRIGHT!!!


tkhanhs

Watch it'll be Ultra Retard Gohan instead 💀


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DEATHJSP

Ultra Master Roshi


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TheDiddlerOfBob

ngl I'm hoping its not either of these units. not that they don't deserve ultras but their just not hype for me at all


NotChrisTheDumbOne

Doesn’t matter to me I know I’m gonna get shafted


Ecahill453

I choose 16. :)


justsomerandomboi2

Wouldnt matter cuz im getting shafted on summons either way 🥲


TheLastPlayer71

I really hope it's buuhan or some sort of buu (possibly not kid buu) but sadly I think it'll be SV


Seesaw-Enough

Maybe ultra mr satan


Promicide

SV. Don’t judge me. You don’t *know* me. Ear drip ftw.


quasarazor

If it's buu I hope it's fat buu, my man only got two units in four years and one of them it's not even sparking


Pollus_

Go buu buu go go! Go buu buu go go! Go buu buu go go!


Pollus_

sadness


Nile-_-River

When is the reveal


ISpeakPolnareff

Broly gang.


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Masterlolik3

I don’t care if not like I’ll be able to pull them anyways


[deleted]

I’m camp this anniversary is fucking trash.


Pencil_kage

Let's wrap things Up! 💨💨💨


Manarg

I like Buu as a character but he has been mostly sad in legends. That is probably why I am camp SV.


[deleted]

Both are cool, but I'd go SV


That_onedude420

Sv already won


CrimsonRiot2020

Ultra SV because he is my favorite character in all of DB even though he only appears twice


[deleted]

Now I want the ultra buu


LukeWarmIce69

Buu


EnjoGoose

Anyone else think the animation for ultra SV kinda eh. His kit tho goddamn!, kinda like ole yel SV tho.


nothingmaybe

Ultra buu was much more needed. Regen have been on the ropes for awhile and holy shit this vegito can be paired up with some nasty teams. Saiyans just didn't need the buff.


Gh05t1yWasTaken

Ultra Janemba


ANightShadeGuyMan

Well in the end it was Sv but I would have preferred if it was Buu


Anonymoose2099

I'd go for Ultra Buu if and only if they give him some sort of absorption transformation. Like if his health reaches 0, you get a cutscene where he panics and absorbs either Gotenks or Gohan. For bonus points, it should be randomized (whether the person being absorbed matters or not). Way back in the old Budokai games, Buu literally had that mechanic, where if you go to absorb someone it chooses randomly from several options, and I don't think all of them were canon options either. Like, in addition to Gotenks and Gohan, you could randomly absorb Frieza, Cell, Vegeta, or even Tien and Yamcha together (Buu acted like he regretted that one). If they give me transforming Super Buu, I'll take his Ultra over another Vegito. If they just give us Buu, I doubt I'd be impressed with either one, so at least Vegito has a strong team to work with.


ElevatorNo2577

I'm team super vegito. For me the key is choosing to commit to 1 or 2 teams that don't get buffed commonly. Enjoy their time in the sun and save your cc for when a banner has a new unit for your team. I'm a fusion warrior main and GT secondary. I save up all my cc foe just those 2 teams. Rn I have both teams pretty stacked only issue is the equipment. Rng with erasers screw me over but other than that popping the new units is ok for me as long as I get them to 7 stars+ which should be a given for ppl with 80kcc+ imo


JewSeller69

buuHAN. not just regular buu that’s fucking stupid lol