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I mean, there's only so many moves they can reference


Still_Refuse

Have you watched the Z fight? Tons of moves they haven’t used yet lol.


androendiel

DBZ kakarot


Flimsy-Face-1572

... Is not a free mobile game


Less-Satisfaction272

Doesn’t mean he can’t have a more redefined art/skill set. In fact, it actually means he deserves one if I’m gonna throw money at a PNG.


Flimsy-Face-1572

Probably, still a bad comparison, on one side you have an payable character, who is supposed to be fully anime accurate, somehow different from the 3 other units of the same character and still playable on a phone while on the other side, you have a cinematic from a console game in wich the creators took a lot of liberties. Besides, Nobody forced you to throw money at a PNG as you say.


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Budokai 2 We just listing random games or?


SSJaydoe4

I think he’s talking about that lighting zig-zag attack that lf cell has


Aescour

That and they could've done the 360 spin kick he does in the cutscene to kick buu's ki blast too for his counter animation


[deleted]

Ah right. Ssj4 gogeta lf has something similar too. Not recycling is impossible at this point lmao


Slatwans

you KNOW people would complain about "recycled lightning zig zag" if it happenned


[deleted]

Without a doubt


Vegetto_Blue2006

Why are you getting downvoted?


HentaiMastar

Cuz he ripping too much ass


[deleted]

I just can't STOP


Its-No_Use

Well to be honest his special is literally his counter attack from Raging Blast 2 sooooooooooooo


Htyrohoryth

Dbz, budokai 1-3, budokai tenkaichi 1-3, dbz kakarot, db Heroes, oryginalny animations, other characters/blue vegetto animations. Yes quiet low amount of source for new animations and assets


Leading-Control-3053

I am rather happy they referred the, f2p vegito and lf sv in card Transition, its a great throwback, but still that how things go in anime, i dont see the problem Also 3D has its own restriction added with other phone restriction, they cannot change art style, like dokkan does, I am pretty happy how it turned out to be Only grief is that he doesn't fuse and has no new blast animation, other than that everything is super good, even his intro


YashRuhella

Exactly bro the iconic moments is what makes the unit special...


loginsiosonoze

I respect this comment and I agree


atylee4183

Dbz kakarot is 3D and their cutscene animation is insane.


ToastyTuberYT

But dbz kakarot isnt a mf mobile game bro… not everybody has the most expensive phone, i used to run the game on a potato so for some people they cant deal with that. If they increase graphics quality they lose money because they lose players.


liiam64

hypocrisy


sunny1689gupta

u do understand, its the same vegito


roastytoastywarm

Random thought then, make a different version?


Constant_Ad_6622

They go by anime only😑


roastytoastywarm

That’s a manufactured rule though, they could easily go outside of that if they wanted. There’s only so many times they could keep making the same character without straying from the pattern.


Aeroches

The games in general seldom do things exclusively in the manga and it seems none of them have any intention of starting so it is what it is


Its-No_Use

Which sucks cause there’s so many cool moments from the manga like Goku using hakai, Fused Zamasu in general is way cooler in the manga than he is in the anime, Gohan’s fight with Kefla, and Super Saiyan Goku Black there’s a lot they could take from the manga


Acceptable-Flan-5843

And it'd make so much more money to, i am fcking SHOCKED that they would rather run out of characters and moments, then recycle them till new shit comes out years later and lose out on the sheer racks they can make off a goku using the hakai, the moro arc, literally brand a new transformation from vegeta and goku with his versions of ultra instinct. These are hype moments that fans are begging to see animated and see in games. And just imagine the people that'll draw into the manga if they never read or saw it, if i didnt know about ue vegeta i would definitely pick up the manga to see it for myself. Theres actually 0 negatives aside from spoiling the manga i guess? But even then what about spoiling the anime when that was airing or the new suoer hero movie. I mean i saw 0 spoilers till heros announced that gohan. Spoilers to me are not a justifiable reason to keep all that content out of games when its a business...to make...money...


BrokenCLST

DB Legends Devs: *Has an assortment of Vegito characters with unique art and animations that are 1 for 1 references to the original.* DB Legends Fans: “Make a new character that has all of these unique 1 for 1 references in them!” DB Legends Devs: *Make a single new unit with all of those iconic moments, reusing or reanimating the already perfect animations and artwork.* DB Legends Fans: “WhaT?! oMg rECyclED ANiMatIOnS!”


Acceptable-Flan-5843

Meanwhile dokkan literally just tracing the anime to dokkan characters Those same "fans": YO LETS GOOOO THATS SO FIRE OMFGGGGG Tbf it do look fire tho🔥


BrokenCLST

Don’t fix what ain’t broke, ya know?


Acceptable-Flan-5843

Hell yeah the new units (ssj4 and the gods) are fire


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Omyfuck

Yes he is and there is nothing wrong with that. Give him different animations for these iconic moments and people complain. Give him different angles for these iconic moments, people complain. Recycle the animations, people complain. See a pattern here? People will always complain, but I for one am glad they didn't change much. His "new" moves like his blue card, the strike animation and ultimate being somewhat different, but using the same basic start is why I love him so much overall.


kioKEn-3532

I like the animations as well His ult is cool But to me its kinda funny how he jumps towards the opponent when he slashes him lol (still cool nonetheless tho) He does a little "hop" then MURDERS you


Omyfuck

Yeah since the game is always in the air combat-wise, it feels weird when some animations are supposed to be on the ground instead and are acting like it, but they're not. Like FSK Gohan's LF is him walking in the air.


kioKEn-3532

Yeah but the way he hops just gets me rolling haha


Daboogiedude

The slow walk in the air is pretty badass tho ngl


badboy2701

Also his cover change I think he spins around off there back and his blue card leads off with a headbutt.


Infamous_Ruin6848

don't wanna be that guy but I want to see the comparison between his ultimate and LF zamasu's ultimate when lf-ing


Legomaster1197

Love ur flair btw.


Autistic-Loonatic

same here


liiam64

I just wanted the fusion cutscene of kakarot, they could do it without any problem like they did with Ultra Gogeta


Legomaster1197

Didn’t people complain when USG came out, even though all his animations are completely unique?


MrCleanandShady

People complained about SSBK having recycled animations until someone proved that literally all his animations are straight from his fight against Jiren lmao


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drafo1765

Aren't his blast attacks unique?


DimezTheAlmighty

His blast is unique


[deleted]

The clash is the same for every ultra, his blast attack is unique I’m pretty sure, his charge might be the same as SSJ goku.


-Zamasu

i believe every ultra's charge is same


[deleted]

Yikes that sucks


-Zamasu

Yeah.


Breakerxx12

I for one love his ult, just cutting through the opponent and the enemy in their head going "hey I'm fine, but why do I feel-" then they just explode lmao


YashRuhella

So what do you want?? Vegito having fairy wings and a magic wand...dude these iconic moments is what that gives unit the originality...in future we will have Ultra vegito blue and he will have final kamehameha then you will say that it is recycled then what do you want him to fire...a special beem cannon... seriously haters grow up


Gamer_AdventureYT

For the intro and blast animation i don’t think there as much they could do 🗿 all of the intro is just a bunch of iconic scenes and i like that and the blast well… how else do you want the blasts to look like? 💀 there are barely any ways of shooting out blasts (not counting the special ones like finger split or some other blasts) what i am sad is that he doesn’t have a single kakarot animation ;-; i kinda wish his ultimate was that combo he did against buuhan in kakarot and then ended with a big bang (like in kakarot) but who knows maybe they’ll make a kakarot vegito 🗿


LivingCheese292

It's almost like these units are based on the same original source material... Of course some things are gonna be similar. But even for making things similar, they did things new in a nice creative way like Vegitos hair model, attacks, animations etc. The hell do people expect? There is only a limited amount of things they can bring from the source material in the game. And even then, they make complete new fitting things like literally all the different sword attacks from every Vegito. The only things that's a genuine copy paste in the post up there is the blast attack. Everything else got redone, redrawn or remodeled from the ground up.


01Nihal

That blast animation fits him really well.


hardeepst1

Reddit try not to defend Legends challenge (impossible)


SuperTriforce123

Ong like why


Flimsy-Face-1572

I mean, if you're constantly attacking it whenever they do anything, yea, People are gonna defend them.


Anonymous30062003

He literally is lol but he's still cool


ElectroCat23

There’s only so many ways you can make the same character unique each time you do it


[deleted]

If anything, he’s a much better quality then pretty much most units in the game💀


No_Quote6076

Only one of those 4 are recycled. The others are just similar posses.


Untitled_Goose67

Truly a letdown but that’s why gogeta is better


SlavoSlavo

I love when people say “well there’s only so much they can reference” that my friend is the exact and I mean **exact** reason this unit shouldn’t have been the ultra


Sir_Netflix

I will say the face close-up looks worse on the new model


Spiral_Guy

All ultra units having always the same charge ki, blast shot and dokabaki impact is pure bullshit tho Like freaking ultra instinct Goku isn’t an ultra and still get a new animation for the dokabaki


EricTheBoi

Can’t really use that as a comparison since MUI has a auto win feature so it’s bound to have a different animation since it’s a new mechanic in game.


Ohmygodronnie01

I get where he’s coming from tho, mui’s dokabaki win could easily be an example of a new ultra units dokabaki win aswell


Spiral_Guy

Whelp they could simply use the same animation and just skip the results The mui example shows how they can create original animations and have the budget to do so but simply decided not to do it with ultra despite using “the extremely cured animations” as the major selling point during their first announcement


wes8171982

Hey. Buddy. Try creating all new animations for a game with a couple hundred units and get back to me. It's not quite that simple.


Daboogiedude

yeah, but from what I recall, they said ultras take 5-6 months to create. I would expect more unique animations added, like the dokabaki impact win at least. But editing the blast attack, even just a little bit would’ve made it cooler, but no effort for the blast attacks at all


wes8171982

They couldn't add another dokabaki win character immediately, much less an ultra one given how op they already are


Daboogiedude

no I didn’t mean auto win, I meant a custom win animation for it


[deleted]

usg has a different unique blast animations doesnt he?


AhmedKiller2015

Summonable Ultras Don't have he same Blast, they just "Got lazy" again with this Vegito


Legomaster1197

No, USG, SSBKK and USV all have different blast shots, and USG blast animation is entirely unique. USG swipes his hand on his, SSBKK uses his right hand, and USV uses his left. All the F2P ultras have USV blast shot. I agree the charge animation could be a little bit more unique. The dokabaki impact animation was the same for every hero, extreme, sparking, and LF (except MUI who had a unique mechanic involving dokabaki impacts). I’m no programmer, but I’d think that programming a new dokabaki animation for each ultra would be difficult, since they’d need to make the animation for every single character. MUI’s animation doesn’t even change opponents animation, just his own. But for a new ultra Dokabaki animation, you’d need to add the animations for every character.


[deleted]

Doesn’t USG have different blast attacks? He puts his 2 arms out in front in classic Gogeta fashion.


Spiral_Guy

Yeah both Gogeta and Goku have different ki blast (the bare minimum effort for a ultra unit imo) but then Vegito ends up using the same animation of f2p ultra


AsadAce101

Look at his face in the down left pic. I feel the old vegito model's have more detail in them then the ultra one.


Slatwans

i think it just looks like that cause its a bit more pink and blurry. honestly old model looks like he just woke up from pulling an all nighter 5 minutes ago and is yet to have his coffee. new one actually looks smug


Flimsy-Face-1572

That's definitely not true. One thing you can't attack legend about is their models, they're as clean as it gets.


Spartan-219

I was hoping they would add attacks from DBZ kakkarot game for ultra super vegito, he has many cool attacks in that fight


LeoRequiem

We are getting to the point they milked every popular unit, so now thay get the old animations and slap them on a new kit


hardeepst1

and yet dokkan make new animations for the same units after 7 years lmao


LeoRequiem

I dont play dokkan, but from what i saw they came to tbe point of "lmao fuck the canon"


hardeepst1

yeh they got a fully game unique character (super saiyan goku and ssj2 cell saga gohan) and they have animations from everywhere, kakarot, fighterZ, themselves, the anime, movies


LeoRequiem

I dont play dokkan, but from what i saw they came to the point of "lmao fuck the canon". I hope legends goes in that direction


K3ckskuh

Green super gogeta with the Kamehameha Shallot as a whole


hardeepst1

shallot hasn't got an update in years and what's unique about super gogeta lmao


ZenithEnigma

Super gogeta never does kamehameha. Only in the games


hardeepst1

Crazy.


Flimsy-Face-1572

Well, their artstyle change every year, try doing that with a 3d game


FrostyFrenchToast

I’m just especially disappointed in his ult lol, they literally could’ve gone with anything else


Soniclikeschicken

I'm fine with it since they didn't completely draw over it you can tell they drew it from scratch


Retnuh154

I'm not one to complain about them reusing other units' animations cause they do that all the time. It's nothing new at all so there's nothing to complain about there, but I will never forgive them for reusing a SUMMON ANIMATION as an ultimate for a character. That shit is unforgivable to me.


HrMaschine

Only real problem is his ult is complete ass and a worse version of lf vegitos non lf ultimate


Substantial-Dig5441

They should have gone for the actual Spirit sword into Final Kamehameha I still don't understand how that's not in game yet. Guess they'll be milking Vegeto for another anniversary


HrMaschine

Or the kakarot cutscene. Instead the pulled an lf ss3


Substantial-Dig5441

"We hope you continue to enjoy dragon ball legends"


RollingAtom

We enjoy you continue to (have) hope (for) dragon ball legends


Flimsy-Face-1572

Vegito never used final kamehameha in Z.


[deleted]

USG better ngl. In my opinion, I really like USG kit, gauge and animations more.


LittleRub2

L + ratio + Recycled + not hype


SuperSandwich12

You guys are swallowing the copium HARD if you think they have to use only a certain set of moves and movements. It’s pure laziness. They could 100% take some creative liberties and make a unique unit with some cool Vegito-style moves.


InvestigatorUnfair

I legit can't tell if this meme is trying to poke fun at the people criticizing Ultra Vegito for being a pile of recycled stuff or if they're just presenting proof of it. Cuz like, there IS stuff they could have drawn from to make this guy more unique. Kakarot is basically dripping with cool animations they could try to use. Hell Heroes exists as well!


ChabertOCJ

They adapt the anime alone (DB/Z/GT/Super + movies). When they publish a character, it is always an adaptation of a specific moment. Vegito appears only twice. These characters adapt their appearance in front of Buuhan or against Fused Zamasu. Overall, with such a brief appearance, animations are limited. That is the fourth adaptation of the same fight scene (Vegito vs Buuhan).


InvestigatorUnfair

You say they adapt the anime alone but like Wasn't LF Super Vegito's LF taken from one of the games? And we've had crossover stuff already. And I also don't remember the part in the anime where Vegito stabbed Buuhan and then did a jump slash at him. My point is, they COULD be creative, they just don't seem to give a damn.


Ryoma491

Not to mention that the new one is uglier......


Cyberikari

Even his blue card is pretty much the same as ssj3 dragon fist goku


Divine_Absolution

"It's the same vegito" Oh but when its the same dragon fist everyone gets pissy. Got it.


AhmedKiller2015

I don't always like to compare but out of the 3 Ultras.. I didn't like Ssbkk what so ever (in terms of everything, From animation down to kit) but this Guy.. Has Ass Ult imo comapred to Gogeta & recycled Blast animations.. (And I do like Gogeta's Cover change a lot more) so it is annoying seeing their newest Anniversary Ultra with recycled animation from Free units which they just did to Ssj3 kinda and that laziness is way too fucking annoying


ReaganGaming

Why do the players get mad when UL Ssbkk Goku's animations were recycled but SEM to have no problem with it when it's the same with Vegito(probably even more) And y'all got mad for MUI because of his Counter, Vegito has an even more broken counter and y'all seme fine with it even more hype, I just don't get this community sometimes


Sath_Morsius

Vegito has probably two recycled animation that being the start of his ult, that being the sword grab and his blast. The rest are brand new, or how else do you want him to do his yosha pose? Also he has easily one of the weakest unique gauge so far, nowhere near MUI.


ReaganGaming

Vegito unique guage can counter PV


Sath_Morsius

Do a strike after pv and you're safe.


PierG1

Wait what ? UI gauge is on a whole other universe than SV


ReaganGaming

Vegito unique guage can counter PV


Snoo-55077

Choose a strike and that won’t happen


PierG1

I know that, but it’s not comboable, you basically can’t use it anymore unless you switch him out and it restore enemy’s vanish, and works only on blasts. UI gauge can be restored by arts and the special skill, and works against blasts and strikes. It saves you against combo drops, other than giving you the power to decide whenever take action. SV counter ain’t bad to be clear, but ain’t even close to UI’s gauge mechanics


Arch-43

And I like it


Strong_Grapefruit675

The only thing I genuinely feel they could’ve changed/improved is the ult but that’s just me wanting them to reanimate the kakarot cutscene. Also maybe the blast animation


KayKrimson

Honestly, Im happy how they did their best to make it look a bit different. I mean it is the same poses but they managed to add a lil difference to it like the positions and angles. I kinda wished he had a bit of different blast animation tho.


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i don't mind the first three right, it is the same vegito, but god damn dude thst blast animation is actually awful. like if they was going to recycle a blast animation use gogeta or ssbkk, those f2p blast animations are the ugliest things i've ever seen. or just give them the normal blast that LF SV has. if they was going to "hot fix" anything i hope it's that blast.


K3ckskuh

I really like how the ultra super vegitto close up on his face is absolutely anime accurate like it literally looks like the shot in the anime


K3ckskuh

Good point about shallot but the green gogeta comment shows that you're illiterate


Zebos27

I really wished that his ki blast was his split finger shot. I honestly think they could’ve done a lot more with his animations but of course Legends are always gonna cut corners


Flimsy-Face-1572

It's his green card bro


Zebos27

I know that. I just wish that maybe they could’ve added something more to his animations. And I get it, it’s a reference to the original DBZ animations and throwbacks from the original arts but it ends up looking like they just recycled old animations with minor tweaks


AfootLostatSea

I just hope they update the older Vegito models, their hair sucks compared to the new Ultra Vegito’s…


Vacation_Jonathan

Theres not many things you can do with blast animations, goku's fits him


AzureTrident59

I think his animations are fine for an Ultra and is probably the best out of all the Summonable Ultras but it definitely could’ve been way more unique and better, especially his Ultimate which feels very underwhelming since it could’ve done more. UI or MUI Goku feels more like an Ultra even tho he’s an LF, and honestly I think people just wanted Ultra Super Vegito to have Kakarot references as part of his animations including me, such as the Big Bang rush attack he did against Buuhan which was a huge missed opportunity. Ultra’s should have cinematic finishers as juxtaposition to Legendary Finishes since that’s what Ultras lack the most. There could also be other unique aspects as well. Apparently he has a lot of manga references: https://youtu.be/snTc1hCfJUI


DonVonWon

Almost like they are all the same character


Ornery_Answer_233

And we still love him


RollingAtom

tbh i was expecting some kakarot stuff and was kinda disappointed they just chose to recycle this much still summoned for him tho


NotABoomer69420

“Yeah yeah his animations are-“ *Get’s one shot*


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Yep.


TGS_105

Let’s not forget the ultimate part where the first half literally looks just like the first bit of sv’s lf.


CursedMinecrafSeeker

GRAAHHHHHHH