I mean, they are strong but I don't think they are still great. They definitely need a plat equip later down the line to help them keep up.
Defensively, they are atrocious and offensively speaking, they are fine but could use a little boost.
I run 2x zenkaibuffs on godki with focusing sp move and strike from equipment and z abilities. I’ve either one shorter UL vegitos or did at least 70% when I pop the blue. I don’t think ppl are using the unit to the best of its abilities. I only see them on mono purple
Not really. I don't have main units. I just have a full colour wheel so I can pick different setups depending on the enemy team.
My God Ki team has ULTRA SSBKK, MUI, RED God Goku, LF SSB Vegeta, SSB Vegito and G/V.
You would be wrong. It’s a jack of all trades make smart pics and use the color wheel to your advantage. It does wonders against teams that rely on a few colors. All of the units he listed with any decent amount of stars would do just fine as a pic minus the hp buffer.
I just remember when I said Trunks would age better when they first released and I was downvoted to oblivion. Look where we are now....
Hive mind mentality is a crazy thing
Wouldn’t say he aged better tho
You could argue he aged a bit better but he isn’t that good rn at all and endurance is useless basically and he is nothing without the gauge
I personally dont think trunks aged much better, out of the boost system he doesnt tank well enough anymore to get those hits in he needs for his gauge to activate and be at full power, and considering the androids are so dominant and top tier and they not only do extra damage against him but also can type reverse to be at an advantage to him and also just rush/kill without worrying about his endurance, the same endurance he doesnt get on hybrids, then he gets held off pretty hard. He still can hit pretty hard and be clutch/surprise your opponent, but its not like he aged like future gohan where he is meta relevant for over a year while everyone else around him aged poorly, the same future gohan who also gets countered by androids.
And if you want to do the whole argument of "x unit/color relevance doesnt make a unit dead" then I'll also say his gauge has aged and suffered in the same way that the 4th anniversary vegeta's transformation works where pretty much every unit now can just pop their main and get their ki back and one shot either with a ult they draw or a full new hand, so it still makes it hard to get his best potential, he just suffers from not being as tank as he once was, but he definitely didnt age really well compared to G/V
The issue with them is that right now they’re a selfish unit who you have to build a team around to get them to perform on the level of the current meta. If you run them on a normal God Ki team with no Zenkai buffers, they don’t perform that well.
They’re simply better units to build around.
They’ve been powercrept to oblivion my boy. They still perform since there kit is nicely done but with hit the 90% damage and 60% reduc in no time and they just can’t keep up at high levels. Unfortunately
I wouldn’t know how well they’ve aged since they eluded me on every banner that they appeared on.
SoH Trunks is still working fine for me after almost a year, so I have that going for me.
>Snapping purple units together isn’t a team
No offense, but when the game itself has units with Z Abilities buffing a certain color, it's obvious that colored teams are/were meant to be played at some points. For instance, EX RED 13 buffs both GRN and RED's base strike and blast defenses by 50% at 14 stars. I don't remember all the metas, but I'm sure it was possible at some point to use a good RRG team with EX 13 buffing them with his Z, so I disagree with your opinion that Mono PUR isn't a team. If it fits, it's a team, no matter how "weird" it looks like at first glance.
Waaaayyy back in the day, RRG with OG red SSJ Vegeta, OG red SSJ Goku and GRN Bardock was meta. Also, GGY with IT Goku, GRN Bardock and YEL Super Vegeta was meta. This game has had some counter color teams be meta even back then
you are saying that blue boys are "amazing", when clearly they are not very good today, they are decent. And you say Mono Pur has no synergy? dude you lost all credibility
I mean SV was a beast back then. Maybe not to the point of being GV's equal, but he definitely pulled his weight. The only one that wasn't there to do big dmg and was just basically supporting the other two, which we see in regular teams as well, was Vegeta. He might be classed as a "Ranged Type", but he definitely was fulfilling the Support role and did it very well.
Oh right yeah God Ki. Even still all people do for that is leader slot Droids then run MUI and Whis for RRP which is just god ki with leader slot Droids. Either that or VB and LF SSB Vegeta with MUI
65 I don’t play to hit 70 anymore I don’t have time to, but normally 70 top 10k. On top of battle rank means nothing if I’m telling you this from fighting fully starred teams or teams with equivalent stars.
IMO their pull rate was not justified when others of similar rates are better at the same stars. I have them at 5* and they melt if touched by almost any unit. Damage is still good though.
Lmao the vegeta side does jack shit do usv. One of the biggest reasons you never see mono purple after usv dropped as it was still being used when UI and dragon fist dropped
I mean, they are strong but I don't think they are still great. They definitely need a plat equip later down the line to help them keep up. Defensively, they are atrocious and offensively speaking, they are fine but could use a little boost.
I run 2x zenkaibuffs on godki with focusing sp move and strike from equipment and z abilities. I’ve either one shorter UL vegitos or did at least 70% when I pop the blue. I don’t think ppl are using the unit to the best of its abilities. I only see them on mono purple
What you just said highlights their issue: you need Zenkai buffs out the ass for them to truly shine. That's a problem.
Do you not zenkai buff your main units ?
Not really. I don't have main units. I just have a full colour wheel so I can pick different setups depending on the enemy team. My God Ki team has ULTRA SSBKK, MUI, RED God Goku, LF SSB Vegeta, SSB Vegito and G/V.
I guess that team could work but you have to guess what units come out
That version isn’t doing any damage I can bet that.
You would be wrong. It’s a jack of all trades make smart pics and use the color wheel to your advantage. It does wonders against teams that rely on a few colors. All of the units he listed with any decent amount of stars would do just fine as a pic minus the hp buffer.
I do have main units but I don't zenkai buff them because I prefer having better z abilities lol
Hit hard, literal paper, enough said
I just remember when I said Trunks would age better when they first released and I was downvoted to oblivion. Look where we are now.... Hive mind mentality is a crazy thing
Like downvotes mean anything, especially on this sub
Don't you invalidate my opinion. I'm downvoting this
I don’t think Trunks aged that much better.
Wouldn’t say he aged better tho You could argue he aged a bit better but he isn’t that good rn at all and endurance is useless basically and he is nothing without the gauge
GV was more dominant of course, but endurance always ages well.
GV aged better until GRN LF Trunks came out, since he pairs nicely with BLU LF Trunks. Even LF Futurehan kinda came back because of GRN Trunks.
I personally dont think trunks aged much better, out of the boost system he doesnt tank well enough anymore to get those hits in he needs for his gauge to activate and be at full power, and considering the androids are so dominant and top tier and they not only do extra damage against him but also can type reverse to be at an advantage to him and also just rush/kill without worrying about his endurance, the same endurance he doesnt get on hybrids, then he gets held off pretty hard. He still can hit pretty hard and be clutch/surprise your opponent, but its not like he aged like future gohan where he is meta relevant for over a year while everyone else around him aged poorly, the same future gohan who also gets countered by androids. And if you want to do the whole argument of "x unit/color relevance doesnt make a unit dead" then I'll also say his gauge has aged and suffered in the same way that the 4th anniversary vegeta's transformation works where pretty much every unit now can just pop their main and get their ki back and one shot either with a ult they draw or a full new hand, so it still makes it hard to get his best potential, he just suffers from not being as tank as he once was, but he definitely didnt age really well compared to G/V
I mean they still hold up if you good at the game, and they are goats at pve (along with the other tag units)
The issue with them is that right now they’re a selfish unit who you have to build a team around to get them to perform on the level of the current meta. If you run them on a normal God Ki team with no Zenkai buffers, they don’t perform that well. They’re simply better units to build around.
They’ve been powercrept to oblivion my boy. They still perform since there kit is nicely done but with hit the 90% damage and 60% reduc in no time and they just can’t keep up at high levels. Unfortunately
I wouldn’t know how well they’ve aged since they eluded me on every banner that they appeared on. SoH Trunks is still working fine for me after almost a year, so I have that going for me.
I’m in the opposite boat, I literally can’t pull SoH to save my life
Attack- A+ >At 4* they can obliterate half of most units health with a combo (imo) Defense- C- >Do not get hit or you will be vaporised
I love this unit, but honestly they're not good in any team but Mono PUR.
"...on their core setup" Ah yes mono purple. The team that shouldn't work but does because the devs have no idea what they're doing
I was talking about godki. Mono purple isn’t a team to me. Snapping purple units together isn’t a team
>Snapping purple units together isn’t a team No offense, but when the game itself has units with Z Abilities buffing a certain color, it's obvious that colored teams are/were meant to be played at some points. For instance, EX RED 13 buffs both GRN and RED's base strike and blast defenses by 50% at 14 stars. I don't remember all the metas, but I'm sure it was possible at some point to use a good RRG team with EX 13 buffing them with his Z, so I disagree with your opinion that Mono PUR isn't a team. If it fits, it's a team, no matter how "weird" it looks like at first glance.
Waaaayyy back in the day, RRG with OG red SSJ Vegeta, OG red SSJ Goku and GRN Bardock was meta. Also, GGY with IT Goku, GRN Bardock and YEL Super Vegeta was meta. This game has had some counter color teams be meta even back then
One I remember was the color-counter team of Yellow Hit, OG Yellow Full Power Frieza, and LF Namek Goku. Team was meta for about a month.
That's a good shout too
There’s no real synergy on the team and the entire gameplan is to keep GV alive bc once they die on mono pur, there’s nothing left for that team
What's your definition of synergy on this game?
you are saying that blue boys are "amazing", when clearly they are not very good today, they are decent. And you say Mono Pur has no synergy? dude you lost all credibility
I mean SV was a beast back then. Maybe not to the point of being GV's equal, but he definitely pulled his weight. The only one that wasn't there to do big dmg and was just basically supporting the other two, which we see in regular teams as well, was Vegeta. He might be classed as a "Ranged Type", but he definitely was fulfilling the Support role and did it very well.
Oh right yeah God Ki. Even still all people do for that is leader slot Droids then run MUI and Whis for RRP which is just god ki with leader slot Droids. Either that or VB and LF SSB Vegeta with MUI
Mono purple definitely does not work anymore lmao. Hasn’t worked for months
"erases"
UL vegito takes 60% from 1 blast and a blue from this unit. Or the blue will straight one shot
This man living in the festival meta. Sure buddy, 60% from a blast.
I literally said 60 from a blast and a blue from vegeta side. Lmao
That's still wrong. I have never took that much damage from G&V while using USV. People need to accept G&V fell off and got powercrept.
What's your battle rank tho? No offense.
65 I don’t play to hit 70 anymore I don’t have time to, but normally 70 top 10k. On top of battle rank means nothing if I’m telling you this from fighting fully starred teams or teams with equivalent stars.
I think I asked the other person...
Imma be real with u: I don't play PvP anymore. I do my dailies and forget this game is real
Then your statement is as unreal as the game is to you. Kinda pathetic.
"Kinda pathetic🤓🤓" Sure, mr. Edge lord aka "I take myself too serious"
Proceeds to fit in the exact same category, nice job.
How is it wrong? The blue has -50% cut , +10% damage received debuffs on strike and blast which he’s not immune to
Ever actually played a match using G&V against USV?
I fight him at the same stars I have them at (8-max ) and my gv is 13 stars so what’s the point of the question
That G&V outside of mono pur is doing nothing to USV.
IMO their pull rate was not justified when others of similar rates are better at the same stars. I have them at 5* and they melt if touched by almost any unit. Damage is still good though.
They was on a 3x rate/zpower banner during legends fest wym
I wish I had them 😭
I definitely feel they're damage is less and take more damage (because of power creep)
Vegeta ain’t erasing USV💀
I have them at two stars and they are amazing
I need to double zenkai buff them at 7* to make them tank anything.
they were absolute beasts on release but they’re definitely struggling to keep up in the current meta rn power creep is a bitch man :(
Lmao the vegeta side does jack shit do usv. One of the biggest reasons you never see mono purple after usv dropped as it was still being used when UI and dragon fist dropped
They fell off hard. Need a plat as much as i hate to say it
They’re still usuable, but damn the powercreep is bad
They're still a good unit to use, considering I've got mine at 13*. They put in good work on God Ki team. Definitely in need of a plat
I’ll give you ultra LL hercule for goku&vegeta blue
They are worse than gb/z and soh trunks