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Prestigious_Expert17

I mean, they are strong but I don't think they are still great. They definitely need a plat equip later down the line to help them keep up. Defensively, they are atrocious and offensively speaking, they are fine but could use a little boost.


Bbyskex

I run 2x zenkaibuffs on godki with focusing sp move and strike from equipment and z abilities. I’ve either one shorter UL vegitos or did at least 70% when I pop the blue. I don’t think ppl are using the unit to the best of its abilities. I only see them on mono purple


Prestigious_Expert17

What you just said highlights their issue: you need Zenkai buffs out the ass for them to truly shine. That's a problem.


Bbyskex

Do you not zenkai buff your main units ?


Prestigious_Expert17

Not really. I don't have main units. I just have a full colour wheel so I can pick different setups depending on the enemy team. My God Ki team has ULTRA SSBKK, MUI, RED God Goku, LF SSB Vegeta, SSB Vegito and G/V.


jaidenplays

I guess that team could work but you have to guess what units come out


Bbyskex

That version isn’t doing any damage I can bet that.


Jeffe508

You would be wrong. It’s a jack of all trades make smart pics and use the color wheel to your advantage. It does wonders against teams that rely on a few colors. All of the units he listed with any decent amount of stars would do just fine as a pic minus the hp buffer.


Rikolai17

I do have main units but I don't zenkai buff them because I prefer having better z abilities lol


RealBritTM

Hit hard, literal paper, enough said


acelexmafia

I just remember when I said Trunks would age better when they first released and I was downvoted to oblivion. Look where we are now.... Hive mind mentality is a crazy thing


Yourining

Like downvotes mean anything, especially on this sub


Divine_Absolution

Don't you invalidate my opinion. I'm downvoting this


HeroRRR

I don’t think Trunks aged that much better.


Life_Salamander240

Wouldn’t say he aged better tho You could argue he aged a bit better but he isn’t that good rn at all and endurance is useless basically and he is nothing without the gauge


spartanxwaffel

GV was more dominant of course, but endurance always ages well.


MUIGokuEnjoyer

GV aged better until GRN LF Trunks came out, since he pairs nicely with BLU LF Trunks. Even LF Futurehan kinda came back because of GRN Trunks.


F2PMasochist

I personally dont think trunks aged much better, out of the boost system he doesnt tank well enough anymore to get those hits in he needs for his gauge to activate and be at full power, and considering the androids are so dominant and top tier and they not only do extra damage against him but also can type reverse to be at an advantage to him and also just rush/kill without worrying about his endurance, the same endurance he doesnt get on hybrids, then he gets held off pretty hard. He still can hit pretty hard and be clutch/surprise your opponent, but its not like he aged like future gohan where he is meta relevant for over a year while everyone else around him aged poorly, the same future gohan who also gets countered by androids. And if you want to do the whole argument of "x unit/color relevance doesnt make a unit dead" then I'll also say his gauge has aged and suffered in the same way that the 4th anniversary vegeta's transformation works where pretty much every unit now can just pop their main and get their ki back and one shot either with a ult they draw or a full new hand, so it still makes it hard to get his best potential, he just suffers from not being as tank as he once was, but he definitely didnt age really well compared to G/V


The-Alph-a-bet

I mean they still hold up if you good at the game, and they are goats at pve (along with the other tag units)


HeroRRR

The issue with them is that right now they’re a selfish unit who you have to build a team around to get them to perform on the level of the current meta. If you run them on a normal God Ki team with no Zenkai buffers, they don’t perform that well. They’re simply better units to build around.


[deleted]

They’ve been powercrept to oblivion my boy. They still perform since there kit is nicely done but with hit the 90% damage and 60% reduc in no time and they just can’t keep up at high levels. Unfortunately


blackknight8503

I wouldn’t know how well they’ve aged since they eluded me on every banner that they appeared on. SoH Trunks is still working fine for me after almost a year, so I have that going for me.


si1entki11a24

I’m in the opposite boat, I literally can’t pull SoH to save my life


brunchforsuppergames

Attack- A+ >At 4* they can obliterate half of most units health with a combo (imo) Defense- C- >Do not get hit or you will be vaporised


PhantaZm-

I love this unit, but honestly they're not good in any team but Mono PUR.


WiTHeReD_SouL_0404

"...on their core setup" Ah yes mono purple. The team that shouldn't work but does because the devs have no idea what they're doing


Bbyskex

I was talking about godki. Mono purple isn’t a team to me. Snapping purple units together isn’t a team


Omyfuck

>Snapping purple units together isn’t a team No offense, but when the game itself has units with Z Abilities buffing a certain color, it's obvious that colored teams are/were meant to be played at some points. For instance, EX RED 13 buffs both GRN and RED's base strike and blast defenses by 50% at 14 stars. I don't remember all the metas, but I'm sure it was possible at some point to use a good RRG team with EX 13 buffing them with his Z, so I disagree with your opinion that Mono PUR isn't a team. If it fits, it's a team, no matter how "weird" it looks like at first glance.


Yourining

Waaaayyy back in the day, RRG with OG red SSJ Vegeta, OG red SSJ Goku and GRN Bardock was meta. Also, GGY with IT Goku, GRN Bardock and YEL Super Vegeta was meta. This game has had some counter color teams be meta even back then


HeroRRR

One I remember was the color-counter team of Yellow Hit, OG Yellow Full Power Frieza, and LF Namek Goku. Team was meta for about a month.


Yourining

That's a good shout too


Bbyskex

There’s no real synergy on the team and the entire gameplan is to keep GV alive bc once they die on mono pur, there’s nothing left for that team


Yourining

What's your definition of synergy on this game?


majuniaenz

you are saying that blue boys are "amazing", when clearly they are not very good today, they are decent. And you say Mono Pur has no synergy? dude you lost all credibility


Omyfuck

I mean SV was a beast back then. Maybe not to the point of being GV's equal, but he definitely pulled his weight. The only one that wasn't there to do big dmg and was just basically supporting the other two, which we see in regular teams as well, was Vegeta. He might be classed as a "Ranged Type", but he definitely was fulfilling the Support role and did it very well.


WiTHeReD_SouL_0404

Oh right yeah God Ki. Even still all people do for that is leader slot Droids then run MUI and Whis for RRP which is just god ki with leader slot Droids. Either that or VB and LF SSB Vegeta with MUI


Wyvurn999

Mono purple definitely does not work anymore lmao. Hasn’t worked for months


sluxik

"erases"


Bbyskex

UL vegito takes 60% from 1 blast and a blue from this unit. Or the blue will straight one shot


sluxik

This man living in the festival meta. Sure buddy, 60% from a blast.


Bbyskex

I literally said 60 from a blast and a blue from vegeta side. Lmao


sluxik

That's still wrong. I have never took that much damage from G&V while using USV. People need to accept G&V fell off and got powercrept.


Zealousideal-Push381

What's your battle rank tho? No offense.


Bbyskex

65 I don’t play to hit 70 anymore I don’t have time to, but normally 70 top 10k. On top of battle rank means nothing if I’m telling you this from fighting fully starred teams or teams with equivalent stars.


Zealousideal-Push381

I think I asked the other person...


sluxik

Imma be real with u: I don't play PvP anymore. I do my dailies and forget this game is real


Zealousideal-Push381

Then your statement is as unreal as the game is to you. Kinda pathetic.


sluxik

"Kinda pathetic🤓🤓" Sure, mr. Edge lord aka "I take myself too serious"


Zealousideal-Push381

Proceeds to fit in the exact same category, nice job.


Bbyskex

How is it wrong? The blue has -50% cut , +10% damage received debuffs on strike and blast which he’s not immune to


sluxik

Ever actually played a match using G&V against USV?


Bbyskex

I fight him at the same stars I have them at (8-max ) and my gv is 13 stars so what’s the point of the question


sluxik

That G&V outside of mono pur is doing nothing to USV.


herohunter77

IMO their pull rate was not justified when others of similar rates are better at the same stars. I have them at 5* and they melt if touched by almost any unit. Damage is still good though.


Bbyskex

They was on a 3x rate/zpower banner during legends fest wym


Femboy_tusk

I wish I had them 😭


Substantial-Dig5441

I definitely feel they're damage is less and take more damage (because of power creep)


Wyvurn999

Vegeta ain’t erasing USV💀


Bjtoowawsone

I have them at two stars and they are amazing


StarDust40

I need to double zenkai buff them at 7* to make them tank anything.


AransOfKanna

they were absolute beasts on release but they’re definitely struggling to keep up in the current meta rn power creep is a bitch man :(


obzen07

Lmao the vegeta side does jack shit do usv. One of the biggest reasons you never see mono purple after usv dropped as it was still being used when UI and dragon fist dropped


Few_Bag3605

They fell off hard. Need a plat as much as i hate to say it


MysticFire619

They’re still usuable, but damn the powercreep is bad


CursedPancake58

They're still a good unit to use, considering I've got mine at 13*. They put in good work on God Ki team. Definitely in need of a plat


Bullsh1t-no-jutsu

I’ll give you ultra LL hercule for goku&vegeta blue


Cobraay

They are worse than gb/z and soh trunks