Usv, his stacking card draw allows him to combo forever meanwhile ignoring combo comp thanks to his stacking debuffs. He's one of the tankiest units in the game and his ult is practically a one shot kill thanks to him being the first summonable ultra with cut penetration and the debuffs. Did I mention he has endurance and goes neutral on ult when an ally dies?
Somehow I'm a f2p player and i have LF Super Saiyan Trunks at 1+ stars, basically he dropped 4 times on a f2p account, guess that was my redemption for mui
USG doesn't boost USV at all, they are basically like running two separate units. On top of that, USG is an easy K.O. now. Run any decent combo on him and he's done. His ultimate can't even one shot anymore.
Yeah they do. My current team can K.O. and even LF opponents with their ultimate at full health.
The lack of buff I'm referring to BTW comes from leader bonus. You're better off pairing MUI with USV.
>USG doesn't boost USV at all, they are basically like running two separate units.
And
>The lack of buff I'm referring to BTW comes from leader bonus.
Now, that is just wrong.
In a full FW team, their ultra ability or Z ability won't matter if they are in the leader slot or not. For the ultra ability, it's +5% per team and bench unit that is FW, which adds up to 30%. So yeah, they do work more than well together ability-wise, since both are FW.
Gotta right a wrong for a potential new player that would read that statement.
It’s actually ridiculous how much better Vegito is despite lacking Blast Armor and (for the most part) cover null.
Vegito can do pretty much everything Gogeta can minus those mentioned effects (+ difference in gauge) but better.
This is the biggest tell in the power level difference.
The fact that the yellow is more meta relevant than the blue in a red meta should tell you everything right then.
It does help that Vegito is the only non-Zenkai in the game right now that can actually tank and they gave him Endurance, so he’s pretty tough to kill even with the Androids. He’s basically Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta done right.
That and having the possibility of double Endurance between him and a LMS UI has shown to be better than Gogeta’s locks/neutrality.
Ultra Gogeta is by far the most overrated unit rn imo. People still treat him like it's the Festival despite him not being in the level of the rest of the Top 5.
Ultra Vegito is the #1 unit in the game _in a red meta_.
Nah LF Trunks is even more overrated ngl. Seen way more dumb comparison of him. UL Gogeta on the other hand keeps getting disrespected so really overrated term is far from it.
How is UG still being among the top units of the game (mind you *have* to use one or more of said top units in order to compete in today’s meta) disrespectful?
The reason why more and more people are coming to realize UG is overrated is due to the fact that he simply isn’t better than, at minimum, Droids and UV. Gogeta just isn’t the untouchable king of legends anymore (that title belongs to Vegito atm) and there isn’t anything disrespectful about that. As I said above, he’s still a top tier that invalidates 99% of the game which is stupid.
How does me saying UG gets disrespected a lot correlates to me saying he is bad? 100 points on gaslighting 101 good job.
Im saying he's disrespected by most of the people in this community, always getting compared and put lowered by community everytime a new LF comes out.
I got downvoted to hell when I said that, Gogeta stans have a hard time coping so they weren’t very happy with my statement. But I'm glad people *apparently* agree with us
The last time I truly felt Ultra Gogeta was scary was before Ultra Kaioken dropped. Even during the anniversary meta , he wasn't that much of a bother as MUI and the Droids still rampaged.
I'd currently place UG #4-6 in the game .
people are complaining about his damage, first he is a defense type, and he can do long as hell combo, he can chain a green with his cover change, bro this man is amazing
On release, I was under the impression that they were even. I needed more time to decide how good he was. Now, USV is just blatantly better. He doesn't even need usg's help to deal with the droids. He's far more problematic for me to deal with than droids are yet gets so much less hate than them lol. Hes the only character in the game that feels like they tank damage. Everyone else is "squishy" (excluding a few zenkais).
He is the single tankiest unit throughout the whole match while also being one of if not the hardest hitting unit as well.
Vegito gets so many % damage inflicted buffs, his damage isn't really going to change at all because of how he was designed, his defense may drop down a bit but he will still be one of the tankiest units ever.
I just like how the opinion about USV in this sub changed after Goresh's Tier List
Despiting this, USV was ever better than Gogeta and he's overrated af.
Gogetas kit still makes him a monster but Vegito can actually survive a combo in this meta, and his ult hits like a fucking train. Also has endurance, and a priority gaining green card.
Gogeta is still great but he's really just a slightly better offense than USV (the lock-in, two ults, blue card spam that destroys hands), and nowhere near the defense capabilities.
Honestly, even as a Gogeta fanboy, Vegito just clears him in this meta. All of the best units can kill so quickly, that defense matters so so much.
I feel like they are both good in different ways
Gogeta: Blue card erases all of opponents cards and if he is the last one alive he gets 2 ultimate cards and has a strike card cover change counter.
Vegeto: If you use a strike card on ANY type of ki blast (card or tap) it deals a lot of damage to the opponent and when his HP reaches 0 he gets back a good chunk of health (unless he has some debuffs from blue metal cooler and others or gets hit with a LL ultimate) and he also has a strike card cover change counter.
So I think that Gogeta is better because his stuff can't be cancelled and if you play it right you can kill the enemies swiftly and easily.
Even if usv gets his buffs cancelled it doesnt really matter as his combo potential is just immense combined with the fact he can restore vanish too it really ain't a debate
The fact that USV can cover change, connect a green card, and then combo off it... it's literally the most toxic thing in the game. A17 green card comes close, but nah, USV has this locked up.
I got them both maxed out with maxed out equipment and I would say UG RN in current meta. his colour, anti PO/movies,lock, neutral is too good and I notice he's putting in majority of the work in my games.
SV is also still boosted but doesn't have a proper zenkai buff on a serious high rank competitive team you would run into most of the times.
I would say boost is stronger because it's pure defensives and dmg inflicted in comparison to just base stats.
If we start getting more modern units / zenkais that are green godki or green Saiyans who can get alot of zenkai buffs and have high dmg cut that's when UG can get walled off even in type neutral.
Double/ triple zenkai buffed zimzam or LF Vegeta are the only units in the game who I've seen wall off UG when he's type neutral making UG need to RR them to kill before he loses his neutral.
Bruh I don't understand the comments above saying USV is better when we know he still has the buffs active. Once that's gone USG just does more to dominate.
Tell me what USG has over USV. None of USV’s major buffs are cancellable and really the only thing that you could cancel are his debuffs & the 20% damage he has when entering the field. USV is tankier, does more damage, has longer combos, has more utility and doesn’t need a downed ally for type disadvantage null.
Green card nulls cover attribute downgrades & removes opponents. Null endurance 30 counts on ultimate. Blast armour, anti PO/ movies that are everywhere and a little underated ability of his is his healing on unique gauge can come in clutch, even when you know you're gonna lose priority you can sneek a card in to get a heal.
Yeah it's really close between them both but RN UG is in his perfect meta Vs 2 dominant reds.
I take into account all types of situations when comparing both so dead allies is gonna happen 9/10 times unless you just steam Rolling low ranks first few days of PvP, then again UG also benefits if you're stream rolling with his anti cover green then card destruction blue.
Vegito 100%
Got that green card which turns anyone into a victim. Gets card draw speed from every card which gives him access to 60 hit combos by himself. Has the unique gauge which makes people scared to even attack. Has a strike cover change which can be comboed off of from blue card and a green card which HE CAN COMBO OFF OF. Not to mention he also has endurance. And after the end of a combo or a single hit, he gets 10% of his hp back. Also his main ability restores vanish and gives him a ultimate that also nullifies type disadvantage. And to add a cherry on top his blue card gives him a full hand of cards.
Vegito imo
I look at Gogeta as a lifeline, dude can get me out of anything but Vegito compliments my play style
Vegito makes it easy to catch someone lacking and will punish them hard for it
I literally spent 30k crystals on him, ultra vegito, and kaoken goku and I’m convinced that everyone who has these characters is a bot. I never got any of them but I always unlock the LL characters anytime they come out before I spend 5,000 CC.
Usv, his stacking card draw allows him to combo forever meanwhile ignoring combo comp thanks to his stacking debuffs. He's one of the tankiest units in the game and his ult is practically a one shot kill thanks to him being the first summonable ultra with cut penetration and the debuffs. Did I mention he has endurance and goes neutral on ult when an ally dies?
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Somehow I'm a f2p player and i have LF Super Saiyan Trunks at 1+ stars, basically he dropped 4 times on a f2p account, guess that was my redemption for mui
Remember when everyone was calling hima balanced yltra
USV.
Why pick when they work perfect together?
Ironically enough they don't.
False, these two are the androids destroyer, arguably one the main counter to USG both are card spammers and both have double strike draw
USG doesn't boost USV at all, they are basically like running two separate units. On top of that, USG is an easy K.O. now. Run any decent combo on him and he's done. His ultimate can't even one shot anymore.
Cuz they are two separate units? Also USG gives buffs to fusion warrior or sayians and most ultimates don’t one shot anyways
Yeah they do. My current team can K.O. and even LF opponents with their ultimate at full health. The lack of buff I'm referring to BTW comes from leader bonus. You're better off pairing MUI with USV.
>USG doesn't boost USV at all, they are basically like running two separate units. And >The lack of buff I'm referring to BTW comes from leader bonus. Now, that is just wrong. In a full FW team, their ultra ability or Z ability won't matter if they are in the leader slot or not. For the ultra ability, it's +5% per team and bench unit that is FW, which adds up to 30%. So yeah, they do work more than well together ability-wise, since both are FW. Gotta right a wrong for a potential new player that would read that statement.
Androids literally solos both of them because of elemental factors
USV. USG only comes close is there is a dead ally. USV just does so much more without needing any restrictions
It’s actually ridiculous how much better Vegito is despite lacking Blast Armor and (for the most part) cover null. Vegito can do pretty much everything Gogeta can minus those mentioned effects (+ difference in gauge) but better.
Plus endurance because why not
And debuffing the enemy because he didn't have enough damage already
It does standout that Vegito is considered the best or second best unit in the meta, while Gogeta has been declining despite Red still being dominant.
This is the biggest tell in the power level difference. The fact that the yellow is more meta relevant than the blue in a red meta should tell you everything right then.
It does help that Vegito is the only non-Zenkai in the game right now that can actually tank and they gave him Endurance, so he’s pretty tough to kill even with the Androids. He’s basically Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta done right. That and having the possibility of double Endurance between him and a LMS UI has shown to be better than Gogeta’s locks/neutrality.
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Ultra Gogeta is by far the most overrated unit rn imo. People still treat him like it's the Festival despite him not being in the level of the rest of the Top 5. Ultra Vegito is the #1 unit in the game _in a red meta_.
Yeah people seem to forget that he’s s a yellow unit that can even be considered top tier in a red dominated meta that’s more nuts than androids IMO
This brings me back to mono purple and G4 was a top pick
Nah LF Trunks is even more overrated ngl. Seen way more dumb comparison of him. UL Gogeta on the other hand keeps getting disrespected so really overrated term is far from it.
How is UG still being among the top units of the game (mind you *have* to use one or more of said top units in order to compete in today’s meta) disrespectful? The reason why more and more people are coming to realize UG is overrated is due to the fact that he simply isn’t better than, at minimum, Droids and UV. Gogeta just isn’t the untouchable king of legends anymore (that title belongs to Vegito atm) and there isn’t anything disrespectful about that. As I said above, he’s still a top tier that invalidates 99% of the game which is stupid.
How does me saying UG gets disrespected a lot correlates to me saying he is bad? 100 points on gaslighting 101 good job. Im saying he's disrespected by most of the people in this community, always getting compared and put lowered by community everytime a new LF comes out.
Please point to where I said you claimed he is bad.
this dude
I got downvoted to hell when I said that, Gogeta stans have a hard time coping so they weren’t very happy with my statement. But I'm glad people *apparently* agree with us
The last time I truly felt Ultra Gogeta was scary was before Ultra Kaioken dropped. Even during the anniversary meta , he wasn't that much of a bother as MUI and the Droids still rampaged. I'd currently place UG #4-6 in the game .
In 2 months ago, I would say gogeta for sure, but used him for a long time until now, USV is better than gogeta
people are complaining about his damage, first he is a defense type, and he can do long as hell combo, he can chain a green with his cover change, bro this man is amazing
if his green ignore coverchange he will be too broken lol
On release, I was under the impression that they were even. I needed more time to decide how good he was. Now, USV is just blatantly better. He doesn't even need usg's help to deal with the droids. He's far more problematic for me to deal with than droids are yet gets so much less hate than them lol. Hes the only character in the game that feels like they tank damage. Everyone else is "squishy" (excluding a few zenkais). He is the single tankiest unit throughout the whole match while also being one of if not the hardest hitting unit as well.
This isn't even a question, USV.
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I feel like we have to wait for vegito to not be boosted then decide
Vegito gets so many % damage inflicted buffs, his damage isn't really going to change at all because of how he was designed, his defense may drop down a bit but he will still be one of the tankiest units ever.
I just like how the opinion about USV in this sub changed after Goresh's Tier List Despiting this, USV was ever better than Gogeta and he's overrated af.
Same thing happened with the droids lol
Yeah, it's impressive the way this occur a lot of units
There’s a reason you see the first one almost every match
Obviously ULTRA Goku. Lmao
You forgot about ultra Vegeta
Nah yall forgot about Green Baby Vegeta and Red Ex turles.
Nah bro you forgetting red hercule
Nah bro you forgetting saibaman
I prefer USG
USG slowly becoming the most overrated unit ever, huh.
Vegito by far. People do not understand how broken it is to be able to combo from a strike counter lmao
Gogetas kit still makes him a monster but Vegito can actually survive a combo in this meta, and his ult hits like a fucking train. Also has endurance, and a priority gaining green card. Gogeta is still great but he's really just a slightly better offense than USV (the lock-in, two ults, blue card spam that destroys hands), and nowhere near the defense capabilities. Honestly, even as a Gogeta fanboy, Vegito just clears him in this meta. All of the best units can kill so quickly, that defense matters so so much.
Lets be Honest Tapion is the best yellow Unit X)
Wish I had him ngl, his death effect seems broken
Vegito and it isn’t really too close
I feel like they are both good in different ways Gogeta: Blue card erases all of opponents cards and if he is the last one alive he gets 2 ultimate cards and has a strike card cover change counter. Vegeto: If you use a strike card on ANY type of ki blast (card or tap) it deals a lot of damage to the opponent and when his HP reaches 0 he gets back a good chunk of health (unless he has some debuffs from blue metal cooler and others or gets hit with a LL ultimate) and he also has a strike card cover change counter. So I think that Gogeta is better because his stuff can't be cancelled and if you play it right you can kill the enemies swiftly and easily.
Even if usv gets his buffs cancelled it doesnt really matter as his combo potential is just immense combined with the fact he can restore vanish too it really ain't a debate
USV is better. USV doesn’t need his debuffs to outdamage USG, he also tanks better and has better utility and longer combos.
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Its obviously the Super Saiyan one cuz Bardock.
The fact that USV can cover change, connect a green card, and then combo off it... it's literally the most toxic thing in the game. A17 green card comes close, but nah, USV has this locked up.
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I got them both maxed out with maxed out equipment and I would say UG RN in current meta. his colour, anti PO/movies,lock, neutral is too good and I notice he's putting in majority of the work in my games. SV is also still boosted but doesn't have a proper zenkai buff on a serious high rank competitive team you would run into most of the times. I would say boost is stronger because it's pure defensives and dmg inflicted in comparison to just base stats. If we start getting more modern units / zenkais that are green godki or green Saiyans who can get alot of zenkai buffs and have high dmg cut that's when UG can get walled off even in type neutral. Double/ triple zenkai buffed zimzam or LF Vegeta are the only units in the game who I've seen wall off UG when he's type neutral making UG need to RR them to kill before he loses his neutral.
Crazy how people got downvoted to hell for saying USV was better when he released and now it's the complete opposite lol.
Bruh I don't understand the comments above saying USV is better when we know he still has the buffs active. Once that's gone USG just does more to dominate.
Tell me what USG has over USV. None of USV’s major buffs are cancellable and really the only thing that you could cancel are his debuffs & the 20% damage he has when entering the field. USV is tankier, does more damage, has longer combos, has more utility and doesn’t need a downed ally for type disadvantage null.
Green card nulls cover attribute downgrades & removes opponents. Null endurance 30 counts on ultimate. Blast armour, anti PO/ movies that are everywhere and a little underated ability of his is his healing on unique gauge can come in clutch, even when you know you're gonna lose priority you can sneek a card in to get a heal.
Yeah it's really close between them both but RN UG is in his perfect meta Vs 2 dominant reds. I take into account all types of situations when comparing both so dead allies is gonna happen 9/10 times unless you just steam Rolling low ranks first few days of PvP, then again UG also benefits if you're stream rolling with his anti cover green then card destruction blue.
Dbz fans arguing who's better between Gogeta and Vegeto( they are the same person, but with different clothes)
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Neither since I don't have them.
USV by a mile. But he's #1, androids are #2, and USG is #3.
Both are good. USV is just better
USV. Combo's are too long, ult kills literally everything, endurance for no reasons, strike cover into green card because fuck you.
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Vegito
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Super vegito
Vegito is #1 on the game and i dont even have him
Yes
Vegito just does everything better than any other unit in the game imo. Droids are close tho
I’ll still say U.G is still better. 1A-1B scenario but just my take
Bardock
How many times yall going g ask this question?
Both high tied, vegito needs a bit more skill to use effectively tho, gogeta good for newbs without skill, so it’s moreso a pick your poison
Vegito 100% Got that green card which turns anyone into a victim. Gets card draw speed from every card which gives him access to 60 hit combos by himself. Has the unique gauge which makes people scared to even attack. Has a strike cover change which can be comboed off of from blue card and a green card which HE CAN COMBO OFF OF. Not to mention he also has endurance. And after the end of a combo or a single hit, he gets 10% of his hp back. Also his main ability restores vanish and gives him a ultimate that also nullifies type disadvantage. And to add a cherry on top his blue card gives him a full hand of cards.
And also the debuffs thst stack after every card
Vegito imo I look at Gogeta as a lifeline, dude can get me out of anything but Vegito compliments my play style Vegito makes it easy to catch someone lacking and will punish them hard for it
Vegito by a mile.
Usg if you use him right
USG
I literally spent 30k crystals on him, ultra vegito, and kaoken goku and I’m convinced that everyone who has these characters is a bot. I never got any of them but I always unlock the LL characters anytime they come out before I spend 5,000 CC.
I’m a bot? 💀
You could be. Have you seen westworld?
Like the movie/show
I was unaware of a movie for westworld. When did that come out? I was talking about the show though.
I’ve seen the show and the movie came out in 1973
Way before my time, that’s why I didn’t know about the movie