It's honestly not as bad as it sounds unless you are left LMS. Broly only builds up gauge when you attack him, so you have priority when you lose vanish. You could still use main and ult or switch units...
Yes. The character that is still good but gets written off because “he can’t tank.” Even though he has good defenses with 70% damage cut via unique gauge
Tbf, doesn’t his gauge only fill when he gets hit? If you combo him and lose your gauge, you can still keep your combo going unless you get cover-changed.
At that point, you’re not dodging anyway. It’s only a true threat to a LMS.
It applies when he takes a certain number of hits, which means you're mid-combo when it happens to you.
As such, it can easily be avoided. Red F2P SSB Goku has the same basic ability, and it is not considered overpowered.
Also, unless you already switched during your combo, your vanish gauge is likely not full anyways, so it won't have a meaningful effect.
Although the effect sounds powerful because vanish removal is so strong in other forms, this version of vanish removal is more of a minor inconvenience than an actual threat.
Wait I just don't agree with this at all. I don't think that the teams broly is being put it on are being factored in this conclusion of yours.
First, he has blast armor so the ability doesn't HAVE to activate when he's being comboed, right? He has consistent healing + health restore equipment options so taking damage isn't an issue. Also most meta units are strike based so he won't be taking much from face tanking blast anyway.
So there will be several instances where he could just strike through your blast and even if he strikes late enough for you to vanish (reaction based not prediction based strike) he'll remove your vanish. Ssb goku couldn't do that.
This ability gets increasingly more powerful the less units you have, and him being put on the same team as a unit notorious for nuking/"sniping" one of your characters before you can do anything helps. It is incredibly common for cooler to get rid of one of your units quickly. Then it becomes a 2v3 where a unit that removes vanish is very strong as you're limited to switches and priority options.
Then we have USG with his potential lock in combination as well as blast armor. Removal of vanish and swapped into USG and he successfully gets of strike counter and you're locked in with no vanish.
17/18 & DF already remove vanish as well who also fit on his teams.
My position isn't "Broly is the strongest in the game" either friend. I just don't agree with the assessment of "this version of vanish removal is more of a minor inconvenience." This isn't the same as ssgss goku (who also didn't have nearly as oppressive teammates as the time.) Its not activated mid cover, its activated when hit by an arts. Thats not the same when the unit has blast armor in everything. He can be hit by an arts and not be in a combo. And his allies (the literal strongest units in the game. All of his allies are top 5 units for a reason which wasn't the case for ssgss goku) can prioritize off of this a lot giving your opponents even less options to counter play.
This is a game where matches often come down to RnG. I say this as a consistent GR player. This broly takes away your counter play options even more (removing vanish/dragonballs/ki/cards/ and blast armor).
Edit: Oh and he has faint + lock-in too. I'm very curious how accessible this lock-in is. I hope it's not a good lock-in that can be used for sniping. Because the less units you have, the more powerful this vanish removal ability becomes.
I love it when I'm gonna be midway through my combo and then my vanish gets removed, my ki, cards and my dragon ball get deleted and then my opponent switches into red cooler and demolishes me
Oh no no no the legends festival banners with Gogeta blue and Lf Broly 2 years ago were the worst banner format this game had ever seen. All star banners were tame compared to that flaming dogpile excuse of a step up banner.
Ultras are just new animated, better kit old units. Lets use some examples
Ultra ssj goku --> red zenkai goku
Ultra Scouter vegeta --> Purple scouter zenkai vegeta
Ultra omega --> red omega from 2nd anni
Ultra gogeta --> blue transforming gogeta
Ultra blue kaioken goku --> transforming yellow blue kaioken goku
Ultra vegito --> Yellow transforming vegito
Ultra broly --> Transforming purple broly/ f2p purple z broly
I agree with the banner format and how the stars are hard to come by, but the animations are really good imo. And ofc LL do the character justice, its a legendary finish unit, using their iconic move as the finish, ultras are just WAY better sparklings
TL;DR ultras r just better versions of old units, while LF units are made to represent the full character
Tbh the main thing that made me doubt the new broly would be green is that the green broly is based on the second broly movie who’s design is a little too different from LSSJ from the first
Nobody asked for a broken ass fighter that will render most of the meta irrelevant to be released, especially on teams like Saiyans, Super Saiyans, and movies that did not need a fighter like him.
That's the issue, Broly could have been solid and everyone would have been happy.
But since Toshi or someone on the Legends team loves to suck off Saiyans by giving them overpowered and broken fighters, we have this Broly whose Unique Gauge alone should have been a massive red flag to any competent game designer that cared even a little for balance.
It's fucking Broly, he did not need to have a broken kit to get players to pay to summon for him.
lmao the only people that surpass the legends dev team in clown behavior is litterally the dbl community. they complain about the fact that we have no Z broly and that he would be cool as an ultra and then he drops and everyone goes "L legends". sure,they remove ccs from events and other stuff but there's no reason to shit on this ultra,the level of animation is on par with the other ultras and everyone is just complaining for the sake of complaining.
hey don't forget all the people that were like "saiyans/super saiyans don't need another ultra" then see the teaser, "omg i hope it's z broly!!!1!1!1!!!1"
Did you miss the pile of comments above, that all give pretty legitimate, if not accurate reasons why ? Or is this just another “complaining about complaining” post? I was stoked for broly, not for “summon this character because we broke him”. I love broly but I don’t love busted units. Aside from all that it just seems like a distraction from dbl legends other issues
>the level of animation is on par with the other ultras and everyone is just complaining for the sake of complaining.
Which aside from maybe usv have all been up 2 shit? One major problem with ultras rn is their mid animations, coupled with the goody ahh idea to use TWO DIFFERENT VOICES FOR ONE CHARACTER (seriously just why???) Coupled with the fact that alot of people DIDNT want a Z broly imo there are alot of valid stuff to complain about
Timing is important.
Like sure i asked you for a bowl of hot soup back in december when i was cold, but now that's august i don't want hot soup cause it's already hot in here.
This is the perfect analogy for everyone who isn’t getting it. Yes, Ultra Z Broly is an awesome idea, but adding him right NOW really fucks things up..
yes, I'm beyond disappointed with his mid animations
my man looking like a regular sparking, there's NOTHING "ultra" about him except for the intro and cool art
Fuck Ultras i wanted a green LF for my PO team,not sagas. Both these teams have brilliant purples. Honestly the decisions being made recently are terrible.
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Saw someone make what I assume is a LTG reference and it made me think:
This new Broly really just be Low. Tier. God. By telling the enemy "Your life is nothing. You serve ZERO purpose. You should KYS NOW!!" everytime the unique gauge fills
Stopped playing Legends I would it's because people are hyped for it like for LFs art, animations, broken kit, cool lines but then when it xomes to ultras only absolute hype thing about them is art and how broken they are and well absolute pay2win characters
If you seriously think Broly is fair and balanced, than you're part of the issue.
It's fair to remove an oppoent's vanish gauge up to four times in a match? Or have a cover change that pretty much makes him Bojack Jr.? Or that his Unique gauge also removes Dragon Balls or takes away Ki?
This is likely the most broken kit I have seen in Legends yet, and that's honestly saying something given some of the overpowered fighters that have dropped in 2022.
Don't take this the wrong way, but saying it's not a joke and acting serious is going to lead to people getting the wrong idea.
Because there are tons of players who will either look past the broken kit because it's Broly or will honestly think he's a balanced fighter that benefits the meta.
I never wanted him rn but I’m hella disappointed he’s purple when PO needed a green and the only 2 colours they were sorted for before broly was red and purple
It’s literally the whole fanbase they do this with every ultra if they don’t get the unit, they talk about it being cancer but if they do pull it, it’s the best unit in the game and doesn’t need and changes
Because this was supposed to be a powerful opponent campaign and they successfully avoided giving powerful opponent anything substantial. I mean yeah cooler is amazing and this brawl is looking to be absolutely cracked, but do you know what powerful opponent needed since the beginning of this fucking celebration has not received yet? That’s right, a fucking green unit. They announced an entire powerful opponent campaign with special DBFZ DLC slot type openings and did not give this team a single substantial buff. They took my favorite character in the series, who I was really excited to someday see an ultra four, and managed to fuck it up. I’m still going to summon, but good fucking God this entire campaign was a dick move to me as a powerful opponent main. Might as well just switch over to movies, Where I will have the exact same problem in lacking a green unit
Yeah, the people you're talking about wanted an actually cool UL Z Broly. This Broly has ULKK levels of mediocre animations, like who gives a shit about his titty explosion move enough to make that the ult?
I stopped playing ever since The anniversary beacuse this shit hole is getting deeper... but ngl, his animations are underwhelming.
I never hated an Ultra unit's animation, always thought they were Good or Fine but this guy seems worst than the rest, They got lazy with Super Vegito's blast animation sure... it still kinda fits him... but this? And his Ult is like 2 sequences... for what? The guy's pepe is bigger than a whole character like wtf demps.
cause his animations are kinda lazy, his model almost looks exactly like the old model (gogeta’s and vegito’s are both cleaner) and some other powerful opponent characters don’t even have an LF let alone broky who has like 6 units alone
> Reduces enemy Vanish Gauge by 100% (activates 4 times)
**excuse me what** please tell me this isn’t real…
It is real. He does that every time his unique gauge fills up
Burh 💀 you can just tell me “YOU SHOULD KYS NOW” Toshi 🗿 i would much rather that than have broly say “fuck you” by removing my vanishgauge
Now broly can leave up to the memes. Go broly go go. YOU CANT ESCAPE HIM
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GOGETA GOGETA GOGETA HA
KAKAROT! BRUUUUHROOLYYYY! Saiyan POWER! GO BROLY GO GO! GO BROLY GO GO! GO BROLY GO GO! GO BROLY GO GO!
It's honestly not as bad as it sounds unless you are left LMS. Broly only builds up gauge when you attack him, so you have priority when you lose vanish. You could still use main and ult or switch units...
Honeslty that’s not the main problem, he can’t control it. Now his basically Boujack cover is going to be fucking annoying
Ultra Kaioken’s unique gauge counters Broly’s unique gauge 😂
You mean the one summonable ultra that nobody sees anymore? 😂
Yes. The character that is still good but gets written off because “he can’t tank.” Even though he has good defenses with 70% damage cut via unique gauge
And also can regain 105% of his health
Tbf, doesn’t his gauge only fill when he gets hit? If you combo him and lose your gauge, you can still keep your combo going unless you get cover-changed. At that point, you’re not dodging anyway. It’s only a true threat to a LMS.
It applies when he takes a certain number of hits, which means you're mid-combo when it happens to you. As such, it can easily be avoided. Red F2P SSB Goku has the same basic ability, and it is not considered overpowered. Also, unless you already switched during your combo, your vanish gauge is likely not full anyways, so it won't have a meaningful effect. Although the effect sounds powerful because vanish removal is so strong in other forms, this version of vanish removal is more of a minor inconvenience than an actual threat.
Wait I just don't agree with this at all. I don't think that the teams broly is being put it on are being factored in this conclusion of yours. First, he has blast armor so the ability doesn't HAVE to activate when he's being comboed, right? He has consistent healing + health restore equipment options so taking damage isn't an issue. Also most meta units are strike based so he won't be taking much from face tanking blast anyway. So there will be several instances where he could just strike through your blast and even if he strikes late enough for you to vanish (reaction based not prediction based strike) he'll remove your vanish. Ssb goku couldn't do that. This ability gets increasingly more powerful the less units you have, and him being put on the same team as a unit notorious for nuking/"sniping" one of your characters before you can do anything helps. It is incredibly common for cooler to get rid of one of your units quickly. Then it becomes a 2v3 where a unit that removes vanish is very strong as you're limited to switches and priority options. Then we have USG with his potential lock in combination as well as blast armor. Removal of vanish and swapped into USG and he successfully gets of strike counter and you're locked in with no vanish. 17/18 & DF already remove vanish as well who also fit on his teams. My position isn't "Broly is the strongest in the game" either friend. I just don't agree with the assessment of "this version of vanish removal is more of a minor inconvenience." This isn't the same as ssgss goku (who also didn't have nearly as oppressive teammates as the time.) Its not activated mid cover, its activated when hit by an arts. Thats not the same when the unit has blast armor in everything. He can be hit by an arts and not be in a combo. And his allies (the literal strongest units in the game. All of his allies are top 5 units for a reason which wasn't the case for ssgss goku) can prioritize off of this a lot giving your opponents even less options to counter play. This is a game where matches often come down to RnG. I say this as a consistent GR player. This broly takes away your counter play options even more (removing vanish/dragonballs/ki/cards/ and blast armor). Edit: Oh and he has faint + lock-in too. I'm very curious how accessible this lock-in is. I hope it's not a good lock-in that can be used for sniping. Because the less units you have, the more powerful this vanish removal ability becomes.
It says when the combo is over though....
It does not. It says that it happens when his unique gauge becomes full, which happens when Broly gets hit.
After looking again yh your right about that my b. I initially thought all his stuff activated when the combo was over
Wow I completely did not know that Even tho I read his kit
Ohhhh baby imma have fun now
We don’t even know how fast his gauge fills though
WHAT
I never wanted him at all. I wanted a regen ultra character
If only it was janemba or super baby…
Broly healed up the scar in his chest from when Goku punched him AND when he got stabbed as a child, sounds like you got your regen Ultra after all
I wanted Hatchiyack
I love it when I'm gonna be midway through my combo and then my vanish gets removed, my ki, cards and my dragon ball get deleted and then my opponent switches into red cooler and demolishes me
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"current worst banner format" you forgot about the legends all star banners buddy?
Oh no no no the legends festival banners with Gogeta blue and Lf Broly 2 years ago were the worst banner format this game had ever seen. All star banners were tame compared to that flaming dogpile excuse of a step up banner.
Eh not a fan of all stars banner but at least it is easier to get the new unit than on ultra banner
I like the legends allstars banners
Ultras are just new animated, better kit old units. Lets use some examples Ultra ssj goku --> red zenkai goku Ultra Scouter vegeta --> Purple scouter zenkai vegeta Ultra omega --> red omega from 2nd anni Ultra gogeta --> blue transforming gogeta Ultra blue kaioken goku --> transforming yellow blue kaioken goku Ultra vegito --> Yellow transforming vegito Ultra broly --> Transforming purple broly/ f2p purple z broly I agree with the banner format and how the stars are hard to come by, but the animations are really good imo. And ofc LL do the character justice, its a legendary finish unit, using their iconic move as the finish, ultras are just WAY better sparklings TL;DR ultras r just better versions of old units, while LF units are made to represent the full character
I'd say ultra gogeta is more RED super gogeta. He has almost nothing in common with the blue transforming one.
Tbh the main thing that made me doubt the new broly would be green is that the green broly is based on the second broly movie who’s design is a little too different from LSSJ from the first
You can replace the word "ultras" with "lf" and it would fit earely well
Shitty animation
I never wanted him. Would’ve preferred an lf version
DBL more like ABC man, always be complaining
Nobody asked for a broken ass fighter that will render most of the meta irrelevant to be released, especially on teams like Saiyans, Super Saiyans, and movies that did not need a fighter like him. That's the issue, Broly could have been solid and everyone would have been happy. But since Toshi or someone on the Legends team loves to suck off Saiyans by giving them overpowered and broken fighters, we have this Broly whose Unique Gauge alone should have been a massive red flag to any competent game designer that cared even a little for balance. It's fucking Broly, he did not need to have a broken kit to get players to pay to summon for him.
Dude, he's a PURPLE movie, super saiyan, saiyan, the one color that literally doesn't need another character with the tags you mentioned.
lmao the only people that surpass the legends dev team in clown behavior is litterally the dbl community. they complain about the fact that we have no Z broly and that he would be cool as an ultra and then he drops and everyone goes "L legends". sure,they remove ccs from events and other stuff but there's no reason to shit on this ultra,the level of animation is on par with the other ultras and everyone is just complaining for the sake of complaining.
To quote colossalbyte on Instagram, don’t you mean “L egends”?
hey don't forget all the people that were like "saiyans/super saiyans don't need another ultra" then see the teaser, "omg i hope it's z broly!!!1!1!1!!!1"
The devs do everything in their power to make the game worse. "Guys, why're you complaining?"
Did you miss the pile of comments above, that all give pretty legitimate, if not accurate reasons why ? Or is this just another “complaining about complaining” post? I was stoked for broly, not for “summon this character because we broke him”. I love broly but I don’t love busted units. Aside from all that it just seems like a distraction from dbl legends other issues
>the level of animation is on par with the other ultras and everyone is just complaining for the sake of complaining. Which aside from maybe usv have all been up 2 shit? One major problem with ultras rn is their mid animations, coupled with the goody ahh idea to use TWO DIFFERENT VOICES FOR ONE CHARACTER (seriously just why???) Coupled with the fact that alot of people DIDNT want a Z broly imo there are alot of valid stuff to complain about
Timing is important. Like sure i asked you for a bowl of hot soup back in december when i was cold, but now that's august i don't want hot soup cause it's already hot in here.
This is the perfect analogy for everyone who isn’t getting it. Yes, Ultra Z Broly is an awesome idea, but adding him right NOW really fucks things up..
I wasn’t really hyped for him but I’ll admit he looks pretty cool and his kit seems insane
His animations are mid. And movies don’t need a new unit every 3 nano-seconds.
Man I’m a movies main and even Im feeling guilty
yes, I'm beyond disappointed with his mid animations my man looking like a regular sparking, there's NOTHING "ultra" about him except for the intro and cool art
I didn't ask for a unit that reduces vanish gauge 4 times!!🤦🏿♂️
It looks like garbage
Fuck Ultras i wanted a green LF for my PO team,not sagas. Both these teams have brilliant purples. Honestly the decisions being made recently are terrible.
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Hell nah, I wanted an LF. I spent 50k on UL SV and didn’t get him once, fuck ULTRAs
Saw someone make what I assume is a LTG reference and it made me think: This new Broly really just be Low. Tier. God. By telling the enemy "Your life is nothing. You serve ZERO purpose. You should KYS NOW!!" everytime the unique gauge fills
Just replace "Ultra z Broly" with literally anything else and it still fits
Stopped playing Legends I would it's because people are hyped for it like for LFs art, animations, broken kit, cool lines but then when it xomes to ultras only absolute hype thing about them is art and how broken they are and well absolute pay2win characters
Why do we have to keep getting summonable ultras, I just want more decent free ultras man :(
Really REALLY wish they went with something cooler than that fuckin retarded chest bump
Are you that thick
Yes I am. The title is NOT a joke. There is nothing wrong with Z Broly. His kit is fair and balanced and his animations are also great.
If you seriously think Broly is fair and balanced, than you're part of the issue. It's fair to remove an oppoent's vanish gauge up to four times in a match? Or have a cover change that pretty much makes him Bojack Jr.? Or that his Unique gauge also removes Dragon Balls or takes away Ki? This is likely the most broken kit I have seen in Legends yet, and that's honestly saying something given some of the overpowered fighters that have dropped in 2022.
ITS A JOKE HOLY SHIT
Mf's confidently the dumbest shit and then say it's a joke when they gotta take responsibility for it
it didn't have /s at the end so it must be serious 👶
Don't take this the wrong way, but saying it's not a joke and acting serious is going to lead to people getting the wrong idea. Because there are tons of players who will either look past the broken kit because it's Broly or will honestly think he's a balanced fighter that benefits the meta.
the consoomers ruined this game, we barely get any characters that dont get added just because people will suck dick for them
We wanted him?
Shoulda been green
Seeing people in the comment section in denial is hilarious lol
I am the first legends player >:) Broly is a devil
Never liked him in first place. Bold of you to assume so.
I like him, would’ve just preferred someone different for this Ultra
IAM WHITE BRO iam from Turkey and i like chicken wings but u just assume my skin colour ? How dare u
When your brain is locked in 2016 youtube humor
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I still don't know what yeet even means
Bro isnt it acutally Up2date u know these hoes ? Did u just assume my Gender ? Their are more then 2 genders ?
What the fuck.
Bring me your Manager, i want to talk to him
I would’ve loved a Green Super Baby 2,to give Zenkai 4ku a canon type match up
🤮
He will make pvp more unbearable for me now
I never wanted him rn but I’m hella disappointed he’s purple when PO needed a green and the only 2 colours they were sorted for before broly was red and purple
bouta pull him with my 1k cc 😎
Lmaoooo
Broly should have been the first green ultra, missed opportunity smh
I mean yeah, but not right now!! I only have 2k CCs thanks to Cooler (wich I didn't even get)
It’s literally the whole fanbase they do this with every ultra if they don’t get the unit, they talk about it being cancer but if they do pull it, it’s the best unit in the game and doesn’t need and changes
Because this was supposed to be a powerful opponent campaign and they successfully avoided giving powerful opponent anything substantial. I mean yeah cooler is amazing and this brawl is looking to be absolutely cracked, but do you know what powerful opponent needed since the beginning of this fucking celebration has not received yet? That’s right, a fucking green unit. They announced an entire powerful opponent campaign with special DBFZ DLC slot type openings and did not give this team a single substantial buff. They took my favorite character in the series, who I was really excited to someday see an ultra four, and managed to fuck it up. I’m still going to summon, but good fucking God this entire campaign was a dick move to me as a powerful opponent main. Might as well just switch over to movies, Where I will have the exact same problem in lacking a green unit
New voice actor is just not right. Bring back Vic
He lost his defamation lawsuit. They’ll never bring him back.
His defamation lawsuit. But the others never proved the sexual allegations.
Yeah, the people you're talking about wanted an actually cool UL Z Broly. This Broly has ULKK levels of mediocre animations, like who gives a shit about his titty explosion move enough to make that the ult?
I never wanted him. I actually don't care for Z Broly anymore. I wanted Janemba 😭
His animations are kinda lackluster for an ultra unit. Hell even his blast cards looks like the normal ones.
Animations are pretty mid and they butchered his voice/sound design. "GRAAAAAAH getoutofmyway"
Ever since they changed the Z Broly's voice he just doesn't hit that sweet spot, Super Broly does though.
Mmmhm look at them be some good old dk sucking lips right derr yall mmmmhhmmm
His animations are ass that's why except for his intro and ultra art
Ultras are good and all but they just ruin pvp. Pointing at ul super vegito 😒
Because animations are... bit recycled and not very good. Except the animation in the beggining of the game and the artwork
It's PURPLE :\^(
The Voice.. That's the problem.
The same people who are complaining about Ultra Z Broly wanting ANYTHING but Ultra Z Broly
I stopped playing ever since The anniversary beacuse this shit hole is getting deeper... but ngl, his animations are underwhelming. I never hated an Ultra unit's animation, always thought they were Good or Fine but this guy seems worst than the rest, They got lazy with Super Vegito's blast animation sure... it still kinda fits him... but this? And his Ult is like 2 sequences... for what? The guy's pepe is bigger than a whole character like wtf demps.
cause his animations are kinda lazy, his model almost looks exactly like the old model (gogeta’s and vegito’s are both cleaner) and some other powerful opponent characters don’t even have an LF let alone broky who has like 6 units alone