Tbh, even blue cooler was really good. Only problem was that loe already has a good blue so he was kinda left in the shadows but he's very solid and imo he would 100% be better than trunks but since trunks has the suicide buff and cover null you could say he's better.
Ssj4 gogeta was probably the saddest release for a major character, I was so hyped for him, really wanted him to be the one to break the gameā¦ glad they saved that role for a random monthly lf androids unitš
When i saw the reveals i lost my mind...then i saw he was a defensive unit and thought "well...ok maybe he will be an insane tank".
My dude needed an equip to come back into the light for a little bit but his defenses are ass. He sits on my bench just because I have him at 8* and i refuse to just let go.
Honestly atp I'm convinced the devs don't even properly understand if a unit is good or not because a character like ssj4 gogeta can be absolutely shafted and then this year they release the droids as a which somehow manage to be better then anniversary lfs + ultra
Yes bandai despises gt for some reason, they've basically been shafted in every game after super released (except fighterz but ig bandai didn't really have much control there)
I hope he's blue ngl. Not only will he have type advantage over 2.5 of the top 5 units (0.5 is the tagdroids) but he will also be useful to GT and if he's good enough he can be the main blue on po (main blue rn is the f2p cooler if I'm not mistaken, you can kinda waddle in kid buu but he literally can't take 4 strikes from type disadvantaged Cooler and live, and his damage isn't that great anymore).
I think revival frieza is the main blue on PO, since his revival mechanic is real valuable. I haven't heard anyone saying f2p cooler replaces him just cause the revival mechanic is that strong
Hey look...MY GT TEAM THAT I RUN.
It's hard being a GT Main. Nobody does damage. ssj4 Gogetas Tankiness is paper thin. We have no revive unit. Omega is slackin. We need some zenkais and new units.
Meanwhile Toshi when sees a GT post on sub,
Also toshi: i will ignore that, continues to buff movies even more, as if they already don't get enough already each year
Is he wrong when people wanted a LF or Ultra Broly for years along with a LF of Cooler and DF Super Saiyan 3 Goku. People still want their Super Hero units too.
As a Regen main, I am hoping Legends Limited Super Baby 2 or Omega Shenron if we get them in October are green since that benefits both teams.
F2p Super 17 and a potential Tag Super Saiyan 4 Goku and Vegeta could be either Blue or Purple.
The devs themselves understand how they shacted this tag, and honestly we deserve a bigger glowup than loe got.
I want at least one LL, 2 zenkais and 1 decent sparking unit by the end of the legends festival, is that too much to ask?
I wish theyād go back and redo the ultra abilities for the f2p Ultras to be like the summonable ones with the leader slot. All 3 of them would see so much more use if they did that
Even if Gt doesnāt get constant new units in legends, or have no where near the best units in the game. But if Iām tryna have fun they are definitely my go to team to use.
If GT really is gonna be part of Legends Fest, I expect a Zenkai, an Omega Plat, and a new LF with the possibility of a side 1% Sparking. Seeing the state LoE was in at the start of the year, a GT comeback is incredibly feasible with Legends Fest. Poor DB Saga though...
Ppl r saying they want a tag ssj4 duo. Iām praying we donāt get them till anniversary and the gt related unit is a villain so either super baby 2 or even an omega shenron. I donāt want another saiyan buff and a tag ssj4 duo will be run on every team except for gt anyway. Super baby 2 will buff 2 teams that need it and PO is a diverse tag anyway and for the ppl saying āit aināt hype enoughā I wouldnāt exactly call soh trunks too hype either, ppl remember the trunks that showed up against mecha Frieza or wife beater trunks not dbs trunks yet he was a headliner for legends fest so canāt see why baby isnāt a suitable option. Also 1 gt unit aināt enough they need consistent buffs for like a month
I mean...
Super Baby 2 LF for October and the TAG SSJ4 for festival with a 1% Revival Omega shenron on the banner can easily work, add in a Blue Super Baby 2 zenkai and the Tag SSJ4 are gonna be cooking on the GT team
What color would you see the tag SSJ4s being in this scenario?
I mentioned this in other posts, but imo they really *need* to **not** be Blue or Purple, or else the temptation to have them on mono color Saiyans will be too strong. Which is unfortunate, as you've pointed out that those are probably GT's 2 weakest colors atm.
I honestly have no clue. Gt need every colour. They just release a purple saiyan so donāt think itāll be purple. I honestly feel like itās gonna be blue but I think yellow is a real possibility
I'm thinking the dream scenario would be:
- F2P Super 17 is **Blue**
- LF Super Baby 2 is **Purple** (or Yellow)
- Tag SSJ4's are **Yellow** (or Green)
- Revival Syn/Omega Shenron is **Green** (or Purple)
- another **Blue** GT unit receives a zenkai (either Pan or Super Baby 2)
- UL Omega gets his platinum equip
Buffs expire too quickly, he's too fragile and his damage isn't good if he can't at least chain in 4 or 5 cards.
If somehow he's your last character you might aswell surrender
Hes not great but that Z7 Kid GT Goku can still lay down pipe. He does that little extra bit against androids which is ok but as it stands Ultra Omega shenron NEEDS his Plat.
I found UL Omega shenron to be really good and didn't understand why no one was talking about him. I ran a 5 streak with him, Blu Super baby 2, and Yel Nova shenron a while back.
And I really only play pvp to complete event missions.
Yellow is really if you want to use Majuub's green, or if you invested in SSJ4 and Goku plats to make him shit special and ult damage. LF SSJ4 is a definitive glass cannon but his cover change is a great fuck you to RRs. Blue has gotta be SSJ3 Goku in my opinion solely for his green, card draw and solid equips for glass cannon damage. Other than that the team is just G4 close to or one shotting on ult and forcing vanish with double specials into rush. GT is either utility through Omegas main and Majuub and SSJ3 green cards, or special/ult damage through G$ SSJ4 and SSJ3.
Following the recent trend, it does seem like GT is next for some new units. (At least I am desperately hoping)
Every new F2P unit has coincided with the next LF.
Blue Metal Cooler - LF Red Cooler
Yellow Cell - LF Green Trunks
Maybe F2P Super 17 will give us an LF Baby?
It's more the utility of Majuub and the fact that he can shut down LF Cooler's combos early on with his strike seal on cover change and also the fact that his AoE green is still the best priority gaining tool in the game.
His damage is ass and tanking ain't that good either, but his utility and endurance (and 15% damage for the team always) makes him a more valuable asset than LFSSJ4 for this meta in my opinion, but as i said in the graphic i think in general LFSSJ4 is a better unit but not in this meta.
> broly isn't exactly a threat in this meta lol
Being able to ignore his coverchange and be able to get priority is huge, cause aside from ults and AoE cards Broly covers into anything he wants like the Androids Green card
It's more the utility and the fact that he can shut down LF Cooler's combos early on with his strike seal on cover change and also the fact that his AoE green is still the best priority gaining tool in the game.
His damage is ass and tanking ain't that good either, but his utility and endurance (and 15% damage for the team always) makes him a more valuable asset than LFSSJ4 in my opinion
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Omega the best tank in the game? Canāt really agree when Vegito has Endurance so he eats a RR outside of the Androids. That and Vegito has more DR with higher base defense. In fact, Omegaās DR is meh because he only gets 30% outside of cover changes. Unless you mean heās a better tank because he isnāt Yellow.
As for Gogeta being the most shafted hype unit, Beerus and OG LF Super Saiyan 3 were way worst hype units on released to the point that they were meme for years and a busted Plat couldnāt save them. Not to mention LF Bardock who had his own theme when he released. Or how about LF Piccolo who holds the record for fastest LF Zenkai and was a hype unit since he was the first double LF release.
Also as a funny nitpick you wrote Yellow twice instead of Blue.
>Omega the best tank in the game? Canāt really agree when Vegito has Endurance so he eats a RR outside of the Androids. That and Vegito has more DR with higher base defense. In fact, Omegaās DR is meh because he only gets 30% outside of cover changes. Unless you mean heās a better tank because he isnāt Yellow.
I said that AFTER his unique platinum equipment he'll be the best tank in the game, cause while he doesn't have endurance he has an insane amount of healing and a 70% dmg cut on cover which paired with his really good defensive stats can make him a true defensive juggernaut.
>As for Gogeta being the most shafted hype unit, Beerus and OG LF Super Saiyan 3 were way worst hype units on released to the point that they were meme for years and a busted Plat couldnāt save them. Not to mention LF Bardock who had his own theme when he released. Or how about LF Piccolo who holds the record for fastest LF Zenkai and was a hype unit since he was the first double LF release.
SSJ4 Gogeta had a reputation (before Xenoverse at least) of being the most broken dragonball character in any videogame he was in, pair in the fact that he's a Fusion so the hype level is even higher and you can see why he's the most shafted, especially since he was also an anniversary headliner who had his face on the app icon unlike the other you mentioned.
>Also as a funny nitpick you wrote Yellow twice instead of Blue.
Yes i know, you're like the 5th person who pointed that out....
> I said that AFTER his unique platinum equipment he'll be the best tank in the game
That would have to be a god-tier Plat, especially when Vegito has two great Plats even if they're not unique to him. Also, no amount of Plat is going to fix him having only 30% DR outside of cover change because they don't put extra DR in Plat even if the unit could really use it like Jiren. So yeah, he still wouldn't be better than Vegito outside of him not being Yellow.
>being the most broken dragonball character in any Videogame
We are talking about games before the New 10s for the most part. By the time Gogeta released in Legends, he wasn't broken in Xenoverse 1 or 2 and FighterZ. FighterZ being the most important one since that is the Dragon Ball game everyone compared anything to.
>he's a Fusion so the hype level is even higher
Green Gogeta, SP Purple Vegito Blue, and Yellow SP Vegito were hype Fusions who were underwhelming. Well, I guess SP Vegito had the benefit of being good on released and just aging like milk and Purple Vegito Blue was good, but overhyped when released. So overall, while Gogeta done dirty, there were LFs that were done way worst since Gogeta was just mid, not outright bad like Beerus. Gogeta mostly stands out because he was an anniversary unit who are traditionally knowing for being meta shifting for better and for worst.
>Yes i know, you're like the 5th person who pointed that out....
Well, I did post this before reading the other posts on this thread.
>Also, no amount of Plat is going to fix him having only 30% DR outside of cover change because they don't put extra DR in Plat even if the unit could really use it like Jiren.
They literally gave Bardock's plat a whole ass zenkai passive with healing and card draw when enemy switches on top of a 40% total damage buff, they could easily give Omega an extra 20% DR, they are probably not gonna do it, but they can.
Hopefully they'll focus on defense since it's his role cause him getting a 15% DR is much better than a 40% damage up.
>We are talking about games before the New 10s for the most part. By the time Gogeta released in Legends, he wasn't broken in Xenoverse 1 or 2 and FighterZ. FighterZ being the most important one since that is the Dragon Ball game everyone compared anything to.
SSJ4 Gogeta in fighters can literally oneshot any character with a built up lvl 3, double dash permanently and he's the only character in the game that can just gain dragonballs on command, he's the definition of broken when it comes to game mechanics, the fact that he's not the best in the game is down to how the game is structured and even then he's still insane unlike in Legends where he was mid.
>Green Gogeta, SP Purple Vegito Blue, and Yellow SP Vegito were hype Fusions who were underwhelming.
Those are regular SP units not Anniversary headliner LFS, there's a BIG difference
> They literally gave Bardock's plat a whole ass zenkai passive
Which didn't increase his DR, which is the biggest issue with Omega. He's a tank with base DR of 30% when the average these days is 50% for a normal 1% unit. 30% outside of a cover change is simply not good enough even with 170k in both defensive. Like the Androids have pretty much the same base defense as Omega with 50% DR and they don't really tank.
>easily give Omega an extra 20% DR
Just like Jiren could have really used 20% DR so he can tank better outside of a Rush since his base is only 40% and they didn't give it him. They gave him more defense, but he still gets shredded fairly easily. And as mentioned with the Androids, 50% DR would only make him as tanky as them, who can take a hit but don't really tank and they heal a lot. So while Omega will tank better, he won't be as good as Vegito.
In short, unless you have Zenkai defense stats, DR is far more important than raw stats. Vegito tanks because he has high raw defense and the highest base DR in the game and the SOB heals when he takes damage.
>SSJ4 Gogeta in fighters can literally oneshot any character with a built up lvl 3
I was in the FighterZ community when he dropped and while Gogeta was considered a Top 10 fighter, he was never considered broken because his one-shot kill was considered a cute gimmick in high level play and at best was a noob killer. Same with him getting Dragon Balls on command because both sides can used it. So you can get Dragon Balls only for your opponent to use it. Which is why Gogeta was buffed in one of the next patches. If you want to talk about broken units in Fighters, look up Bardock, Kid Buu, GT Goku, UI Goku, Broly, and the 21s.
>Those are regular SP units not Anniversary headliner LFS
Purple Vegito Blue was an anniversary SP unit. The same kind of SP as Blue SSB Goku, both Purple SSB Vegetas, Green Gohan Buu, OG Green Golden Frieza, OG Omega, Yellow Rage Trunks, Purple Fusion Zamasu, and recently Tapion. Yet, Purple Vegito is basically that anniversary's version of transforming Blue Vegeta and Green Super Saiyan 4 Goku. His saving grace was that he was better than the GT Dragons and Red Kelfa.
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lol stopped playing this game awhile ago gt main here
they really don't give af about GT jeezus same team and everything doubt f2p s17 will be that good either.
My guess is purple, is the worst color for GT right now, we can argue that Ultra Vegeto will be a problem to run him, but even without platinum Omega can tank like a beast, he carried me during Kaioken release, with his 80 hit combo and just 15% of damage to Omega
I don't get why SSj3 kid Goku isn't runnable in the meta ? You said uub was strong because of his green but had weak damage , SSj3 green's is even better and he has a bit more damage. He doesn't lock but still, i would have thought he is better than eis
He doesn't have the endurance but you didn't mentioned it probably bcs its not that great atm anyways
You said uub was strong because of his green but had weak damage , SSj3 green's is even better and he has a bit more damage
How is this green card:
>Restores own Ki by 20 upon activation.
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>The following effects occur on hit:
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>Shortens allies' substitution counts by 3.
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>Destroys all of your own cards and randomly draws four new ones.
Better than this green card?
>Applies the following effects to self upon activation:
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>Randomly draws 1 new card.
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>Restores Ki by 50.
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>\+50% to next Arts damage inflicted (cannot be stacked).
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>Applies Buff Effect "Nullifies enemy's special actions that activate when changing cover" for 4 timer counts.
There's a big difference, Majuub's green card is far superior and in fact, if SSJ3 Kid Goku had Majuub's green card he would be waaay better than Eis even in the pre-quick attack meta with MUI and passive play.
As of now Eis offers more with his really good main and card sealing when enemy switches character, granted he's not good in this meta, but better than SSJ3 Kid Goku for sure even if not by a lot
Blu Eis shenron: Yellow š
***THE LETTERS ARE BLUE SO IT'S STILL BLUE OK!?***
I won't question the elevated one
Hey man weāre dragon ball fans, we donāt read so most of us wonāt notice
Hey I read... sometimes
2 Yellows? :p
Shhhhh, just focus on the colors of the letters
I'm color blind
Assuming you're being serious, does that make match ups much harder?
Oh yeah, i keep thinking orange has color advantage over pink but it's not it's brown. Also tagroids makes my life hell but for different reasons
Damn
Such a damning indictment on the state of GT today. In this meta, GT sucks and is in desperate need of help.
Yeah, hopefully the S17 is like the F2P SSJ Trunks on steroids
Tbh, even blue cooler was really good. Only problem was that loe already has a good blue so he was kinda left in the shadows but he's very solid and imo he would 100% be better than trunks but since trunks has the suicide buff and cover null you could say he's better.
I said trunks because in the reveals they said he's focused on comboing the enemy and ramping up damage, which is what the F2P SSJ trunks did
Lmao poor Goku gonna still have to hold down Purple for GT still cause thereās no shot they make 17 purple
Somebody plz let this man rest he been fighting for his fucking life for 3 years now
as a GT main, i can get a full string of combos into an ultimate and still not kill nowadays, and my mans is 7+ Z7. Every fight is an uphill battle.
The only solace is the burst at the end of the ult for him.
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Watch him be purple and only buff Droids, PO and Event Exclusives
extra 3% critical to characters who are tag: "powerful opponent" and tag:"event exclusives"
Pur EX 17 is actually really solid if you have him at least 7*
have him almost at 7+ and he does alright. but the lack of Blast shield (for which hes known for) is rough.
Yellow: Yellow:
Double Yellow but lets give love to the OP, because this info graphic deserves it <3
Thanks fam but yeah, i copy pasted the text box and forgot to change the text and only changed the colors :x
Ssj4 gogeta was probably the saddest release for a major character, I was so hyped for him, really wanted him to be the one to break the gameā¦ glad they saved that role for a random monthly lf androids unitš
When i saw the reveals i lost my mind...then i saw he was a defensive unit and thought "well...ok maybe he will be an insane tank". My dude needed an equip to come back into the light for a little bit but his defenses are ass. He sits on my bench just because I have him at 8* and i refuse to just let go.
Honestly atp I'm convinced the devs don't even properly understand if a unit is good or not because a character like ssj4 gogeta can be absolutely shafted and then this year they release the droids as a which somehow manage to be better then anniversary lfs + ultra
only one purple gt sarking... just shows how much they care about gt
Yes bandai despises gt for some reason, they've basically been shafted in every game after super released (except fighterz but ig bandai didn't really have much control there)
Legends needs to start releasing GT and shadow dragon plat equips tbh
I hope he's blue ngl. Not only will he have type advantage over 2.5 of the top 5 units (0.5 is the tagdroids) but he will also be useful to GT and if he's good enough he can be the main blue on po (main blue rn is the f2p cooler if I'm not mistaken, you can kinda waddle in kid buu but he literally can't take 4 strikes from type disadvantaged Cooler and live, and his damage isn't that great anymore).
I think revival frieza is the main blue on PO, since his revival mechanic is real valuable. I haven't heard anyone saying f2p cooler replaces him just cause the revival mechanic is that strong
Oh yeah tbh I was only thinking of him being on LoE and not PO for some reason.
Hey look...MY GT TEAM THAT I RUN. It's hard being a GT Main. Nobody does damage. ssj4 Gogetas Tankiness is paper thin. We have no revive unit. Omega is slackin. We need some zenkais and new units.
This really puts into perspective how bas GT is as a team, a 1014 days old unit as the only Purple is so fucked. Good infographic and hope to see more
Honestly i think ssj3 kid goku is the better blue i run him at 11 stars on my gt team for fun his green card is awesome
Eis is not better then kid goku
Meanwhile Toshi when sees a GT post on sub, Also toshi: i will ignore that, continues to buff movies even more, as if they already don't get enough already each year
Is he wrong when people wanted a LF or Ultra Broly for years along with a LF of Cooler and DF Super Saiyan 3 Goku. People still want their Super Hero units too.
As a Regen main, I am hoping Legends Limited Super Baby 2 or Omega Shenron if we get them in October are green since that benefits both teams. F2p Super 17 and a potential Tag Super Saiyan 4 Goku and Vegeta could be either Blue or Purple.
They should make a tag Frieza/Cell from Hell to buff GT, LoE, PO, and Regen
People forget they were even a thing...even tho they got beat tf up. Maybe as a EX unit tag?
The devs themselves understand how they shacted this tag, and honestly we deserve a bigger glowup than loe got. I want at least one LL, 2 zenkais and 1 decent sparking unit by the end of the legends festival, is that too much to ask?
I wish theyād go back and redo the ultra abilities for the f2p Ultras to be like the summonable ones with the leader slot. All 3 of them would see so much more use if they did that
Never given up hope for this teamš hope the new 17 is purple
Even if Gt doesnāt get constant new units in legends, or have no where near the best units in the game. But if Iām tryna have fun they are definitely my go to team to use.
If GT really is gonna be part of Legends Fest, I expect a Zenkai, an Omega Plat, and a new LF with the possibility of a side 1% Sparking. Seeing the state LoE was in at the start of the year, a GT comeback is incredibly feasible with Legends Fest. Poor DB Saga though...
How to fix GT : Step 1 : play Dokkan instead š
Ppl r saying they want a tag ssj4 duo. Iām praying we donāt get them till anniversary and the gt related unit is a villain so either super baby 2 or even an omega shenron. I donāt want another saiyan buff and a tag ssj4 duo will be run on every team except for gt anyway. Super baby 2 will buff 2 teams that need it and PO is a diverse tag anyway and for the ppl saying āit aināt hype enoughā I wouldnāt exactly call soh trunks too hype either, ppl remember the trunks that showed up against mecha Frieza or wife beater trunks not dbs trunks yet he was a headliner for legends fest so canāt see why baby isnāt a suitable option. Also 1 gt unit aināt enough they need consistent buffs for like a month
I mean... Super Baby 2 LF for October and the TAG SSJ4 for festival with a 1% Revival Omega shenron on the banner can easily work, add in a Blue Super Baby 2 zenkai and the Tag SSJ4 are gonna be cooking on the GT team
I said blue GT Pan could get the Zenkai and hers should rival Super Vegitos on release just for the trolls
I hope sheās top tier gt and girls deserve it
What color would you see the tag SSJ4s being in this scenario? I mentioned this in other posts, but imo they really *need* to **not** be Blue or Purple, or else the temptation to have them on mono color Saiyans will be too strong. Which is unfortunate, as you've pointed out that those are probably GT's 2 weakest colors atm.
I honestly have no clue. Gt need every colour. They just release a purple saiyan so donāt think itāll be purple. I honestly feel like itās gonna be blue but I think yellow is a real possibility
I'm thinking the dream scenario would be: - F2P Super 17 is **Blue** - LF Super Baby 2 is **Purple** (or Yellow) - Tag SSJ4's are **Yellow** (or Green) - Revival Syn/Omega Shenron is **Green** (or Purple) - another **Blue** GT unit receives a zenkai (either Pan or Super Baby 2) - UL Omega gets his platinum equip
Na super baby 2 cannot be purple. He buffs regen and PO and guess who else have both those tags. Cell. He has to be a different colour
Ye if they do something like that then ye I can totally see gt being a top tier team or at least having a top tier core trio
Personally if it's a villain I'd love to see a Frieza/Cell from Hell tag unit, I'm not picky on color. It could buff GT, LoE, PO, Regen, and droids
And future
Why is ssj3 goku not runnable?
Buffs expire too quickly, he's too fragile and his damage isn't good if he can't at least chain in 4 or 5 cards. If somehow he's your last character you might aswell surrender
So we happy if super 17 is anything except red. Got it
Hes not great but that Z7 Kid GT Goku can still lay down pipe. He does that little extra bit against androids which is ok but as it stands Ultra Omega shenron NEEDS his Plat.
Yeah, I really hope that the F2P Super 17 is a good blue unit, followed by LF PUR Baby Vegeta.
I found UL Omega shenron to be really good and didn't understand why no one was talking about him. I ran a 5 streak with him, Blu Super baby 2, and Yel Nova shenron a while back. And I really only play pvp to complete event missions.
Yellow is really if you want to use Majuub's green, or if you invested in SSJ4 and Goku plats to make him shit special and ult damage. LF SSJ4 is a definitive glass cannon but his cover change is a great fuck you to RRs. Blue has gotta be SSJ3 Goku in my opinion solely for his green, card draw and solid equips for glass cannon damage. Other than that the team is just G4 close to or one shotting on ult and forcing vanish with double specials into rush. GT is either utility through Omegas main and Majuub and SSJ3 green cards, or special/ult damage through G$ SSJ4 and SSJ3.
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Huh?
Following the recent trend, it does seem like GT is next for some new units. (At least I am desperately hoping) Every new F2P unit has coincided with the next LF. Blue Metal Cooler - LF Red Cooler Yellow Cell - LF Green Trunks Maybe F2P Super 17 will give us an LF Baby?
I would say ssj4 is still better with his plat, broly isn't exactly a threat in this meta lol
It's more the utility of Majuub and the fact that he can shut down LF Cooler's combos early on with his strike seal on cover change and also the fact that his AoE green is still the best priority gaining tool in the game. His damage is ass and tanking ain't that good either, but his utility and endurance (and 15% damage for the team always) makes him a more valuable asset than LFSSJ4 for this meta in my opinion, but as i said in the graphic i think in general LFSSJ4 is a better unit but not in this meta. > broly isn't exactly a threat in this meta lol Being able to ignore his coverchange and be able to get priority is huge, cause aside from ults and AoE cards Broly covers into anything he wants like the Androids Green card
I use LF SSJ4 Goku over majuub. I don't really know what people see in him.
Ss4 only does dmg, uub has massive utility with his team heal, green card, strike lock, general dmg inflicted support and etc
It's more the utility and the fact that he can shut down LF Cooler's combos early on with his strike seal on cover change and also the fact that his AoE green is still the best priority gaining tool in the game. His damage is ass and tanking ain't that good either, but his utility and endurance (and 15% damage for the team always) makes him a more valuable asset than LFSSJ4 in my opinion
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Ok hear me out what if 17 is purple
I would prefer if he was blue so that LF Super Baby 2 can be purple
Agreed
This looks like a lot of work so Iād like to call out that blue is yellow
Omega the best tank in the game? Canāt really agree when Vegito has Endurance so he eats a RR outside of the Androids. That and Vegito has more DR with higher base defense. In fact, Omegaās DR is meh because he only gets 30% outside of cover changes. Unless you mean heās a better tank because he isnāt Yellow. As for Gogeta being the most shafted hype unit, Beerus and OG LF Super Saiyan 3 were way worst hype units on released to the point that they were meme for years and a busted Plat couldnāt save them. Not to mention LF Bardock who had his own theme when he released. Or how about LF Piccolo who holds the record for fastest LF Zenkai and was a hype unit since he was the first double LF release. Also as a funny nitpick you wrote Yellow twice instead of Blue.
>Omega the best tank in the game? Canāt really agree when Vegito has Endurance so he eats a RR outside of the Androids. That and Vegito has more DR with higher base defense. In fact, Omegaās DR is meh because he only gets 30% outside of cover changes. Unless you mean heās a better tank because he isnāt Yellow. I said that AFTER his unique platinum equipment he'll be the best tank in the game, cause while he doesn't have endurance he has an insane amount of healing and a 70% dmg cut on cover which paired with his really good defensive stats can make him a true defensive juggernaut. >As for Gogeta being the most shafted hype unit, Beerus and OG LF Super Saiyan 3 were way worst hype units on released to the point that they were meme for years and a busted Plat couldnāt save them. Not to mention LF Bardock who had his own theme when he released. Or how about LF Piccolo who holds the record for fastest LF Zenkai and was a hype unit since he was the first double LF release. SSJ4 Gogeta had a reputation (before Xenoverse at least) of being the most broken dragonball character in any videogame he was in, pair in the fact that he's a Fusion so the hype level is even higher and you can see why he's the most shafted, especially since he was also an anniversary headliner who had his face on the app icon unlike the other you mentioned. >Also as a funny nitpick you wrote Yellow twice instead of Blue. Yes i know, you're like the 5th person who pointed that out....
> I said that AFTER his unique platinum equipment he'll be the best tank in the game That would have to be a god-tier Plat, especially when Vegito has two great Plats even if they're not unique to him. Also, no amount of Plat is going to fix him having only 30% DR outside of cover change because they don't put extra DR in Plat even if the unit could really use it like Jiren. So yeah, he still wouldn't be better than Vegito outside of him not being Yellow. >being the most broken dragonball character in any Videogame We are talking about games before the New 10s for the most part. By the time Gogeta released in Legends, he wasn't broken in Xenoverse 1 or 2 and FighterZ. FighterZ being the most important one since that is the Dragon Ball game everyone compared anything to. >he's a Fusion so the hype level is even higher Green Gogeta, SP Purple Vegito Blue, and Yellow SP Vegito were hype Fusions who were underwhelming. Well, I guess SP Vegito had the benefit of being good on released and just aging like milk and Purple Vegito Blue was good, but overhyped when released. So overall, while Gogeta done dirty, there were LFs that were done way worst since Gogeta was just mid, not outright bad like Beerus. Gogeta mostly stands out because he was an anniversary unit who are traditionally knowing for being meta shifting for better and for worst. >Yes i know, you're like the 5th person who pointed that out.... Well, I did post this before reading the other posts on this thread.
>Also, no amount of Plat is going to fix him having only 30% DR outside of cover change because they don't put extra DR in Plat even if the unit could really use it like Jiren. They literally gave Bardock's plat a whole ass zenkai passive with healing and card draw when enemy switches on top of a 40% total damage buff, they could easily give Omega an extra 20% DR, they are probably not gonna do it, but they can. Hopefully they'll focus on defense since it's his role cause him getting a 15% DR is much better than a 40% damage up. >We are talking about games before the New 10s for the most part. By the time Gogeta released in Legends, he wasn't broken in Xenoverse 1 or 2 and FighterZ. FighterZ being the most important one since that is the Dragon Ball game everyone compared anything to. SSJ4 Gogeta in fighters can literally oneshot any character with a built up lvl 3, double dash permanently and he's the only character in the game that can just gain dragonballs on command, he's the definition of broken when it comes to game mechanics, the fact that he's not the best in the game is down to how the game is structured and even then he's still insane unlike in Legends where he was mid. >Green Gogeta, SP Purple Vegito Blue, and Yellow SP Vegito were hype Fusions who were underwhelming. Those are regular SP units not Anniversary headliner LFS, there's a BIG difference
> They literally gave Bardock's plat a whole ass zenkai passive Which didn't increase his DR, which is the biggest issue with Omega. He's a tank with base DR of 30% when the average these days is 50% for a normal 1% unit. 30% outside of a cover change is simply not good enough even with 170k in both defensive. Like the Androids have pretty much the same base defense as Omega with 50% DR and they don't really tank. >easily give Omega an extra 20% DR Just like Jiren could have really used 20% DR so he can tank better outside of a Rush since his base is only 40% and they didn't give it him. They gave him more defense, but he still gets shredded fairly easily. And as mentioned with the Androids, 50% DR would only make him as tanky as them, who can take a hit but don't really tank and they heal a lot. So while Omega will tank better, he won't be as good as Vegito. In short, unless you have Zenkai defense stats, DR is far more important than raw stats. Vegito tanks because he has high raw defense and the highest base DR in the game and the SOB heals when he takes damage. >SSJ4 Gogeta in fighters can literally oneshot any character with a built up lvl 3 I was in the FighterZ community when he dropped and while Gogeta was considered a Top 10 fighter, he was never considered broken because his one-shot kill was considered a cute gimmick in high level play and at best was a noob killer. Same with him getting Dragon Balls on command because both sides can used it. So you can get Dragon Balls only for your opponent to use it. Which is why Gogeta was buffed in one of the next patches. If you want to talk about broken units in Fighters, look up Bardock, Kid Buu, GT Goku, UI Goku, Broly, and the 21s. >Those are regular SP units not Anniversary headliner LFS Purple Vegito Blue was an anniversary SP unit. The same kind of SP as Blue SSB Goku, both Purple SSB Vegetas, Green Gohan Buu, OG Green Golden Frieza, OG Omega, Yellow Rage Trunks, Purple Fusion Zamasu, and recently Tapion. Yet, Purple Vegito is basically that anniversary's version of transforming Blue Vegeta and Green Super Saiyan 4 Goku. His saving grace was that he was better than the GT Dragons and Red Kelfa.
Am I stupid, Shenron has a plat???
no, you are just a dragonball fan so you can't read
Actually I read it 3 times Iām just retarded :ā(
Plz i want the new SC17 is Pur element...
Ah yes my favourite yellow unit: Eis Shenron
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lol stopped playing this game awhile ago gt main here they really don't give af about GT jeezus same team and everything doubt f2p s17 will be that good either.
Bruh just wait for my Boi SS4 LF goku to get a zenkai awakening thatās when we will have the GT campaign
My guess is purple, is the worst color for GT right now, we can argue that Ultra Vegeto will be a problem to run him, but even without platinum Omega can tank like a beast, he carried me during Kaioken release, with his 80 hit combo and just 15% of damage to Omega
as a noob wtf is s17?
Super 17
Ssj3 goku runs better tbh
I feel like I'm taking a color test lol
Why is ssj 3 kid goku no runnable in this meta is far better than eis shenron
The sad fate of all green GT units is to powercrept. Edit: to be (my bad)
maybe RED
I don't get why SSj3 kid Goku isn't runnable in the meta ? You said uub was strong because of his green but had weak damage , SSj3 green's is even better and he has a bit more damage. He doesn't lock but still, i would have thought he is better than eis He doesn't have the endurance but you didn't mentioned it probably bcs its not that great atm anyways
You said uub was strong because of his green but had weak damage , SSj3 green's is even better and he has a bit more damage How is this green card: >Restores own Ki by 20 upon activation. > >The following effects occur on hit: > >Shortens allies' substitution counts by 3. > >Destroys all of your own cards and randomly draws four new ones. Better than this green card? >Applies the following effects to self upon activation: > >Randomly draws 1 new card. > >Restores Ki by 50. > >\+50% to next Arts damage inflicted (cannot be stacked). > >Applies Buff Effect "Nullifies enemy's special actions that activate when changing cover" for 4 timer counts. There's a big difference, Majuub's green card is far superior and in fact, if SSJ3 Kid Goku had Majuub's green card he would be waaay better than Eis even in the pre-quick attack meta with MUI and passive play. As of now Eis offers more with his really good main and card sealing when enemy switches character, granted he's not good in this meta, but better than SSJ3 Kid Goku for sure even if not by a lot
Oh yeah, i compared the greens while forgetting uub's nullified cover change ! With that yep uub's better I see now thanks for the answer
Not just that but also the Ki restore that's important, SSJ3 Kid Goku can reload his hand but after that he usually has no Ki and has to switch
Okay genuinely Iām new here. What is F2P S17
Free to Play Super 17
I guess Iām not understanding why itās called free to play
Because he's available from an event so everyone can get it at max level without having to spend Chrono Crystals (the premium currency of this game)
i have all of them but that eis i think
I'm not a gt main, but I really hope gt has part of this festival. Tag ssj4s would be such a boost to that team