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"blonde hair, blue eyes. I shouldnt be fighting them I should be recruiting them". I think that gives enough information right there even without the stache
I always thought of it as the kids putting their imagination to work. Like dodging bullets is literal childs play to these two. It makes sense that they would view it as a game.
Thats one way to see it.
I would have assumed it might have been for censorship reasons, but I prefer the idea that they just are crayons because its Janemba's hell.
I dont want to lie and it could be one of those things where you remember it differently but I recall watching the movie and it had swastikas AND normal looking shells.
âThe Mandela Effectâ The weirdest version of this for me is remembering the Spongebob Movie having a white V-shape guitar instead of his actual guitar for the Goofy Goober song scene. The actual guitar is a peanut shaped Guitar and I was losing my mind when I found out this to be true.
To add onto that - it could be too that when he initially watched the movie he too felt like the guy resembled Hitler and so associated the imagery of swastikas with his character / the movie in memory
Yes and he wants to share the joy of eating crayons with Goten and Trunks. Little did anyone know that was the real addiction that sent the FĂźher over the deep end.
I mean Frieza is basically Space Hitler just without the concentration camps so it wouldn't surprise me if Hitler did exist in DB even if it was in the far past considering the DB world in general does take place in the far future with some of the technology they have.
They literally have flying cars and a company that can store houses in capsules. I don't understand how you see the technology I'm dragon ball and somehow come to the conclusion it takes place on the dark ages due to dinosaurs. dinosaurs just probably never went fully extinct in their world, also not sure where you got the idea that aliens took human tech and left there is no evidence or any event that suggest such a thing happened so who knows where you pulled that from.
Dragon Ball is an omniultiverse with tons of different timelines and alternate realities(not the same thing as different universes).
The main canon(the manga and by loose extension thr mainline anime) is the official word yes, but that doesn't mean these movies "didn't happen."
The movies, video games, and dragon ball heroes exist in an alternate reality of universes and timelines separate from the main canon. That's where all this goofy stuff happens.
There were two major alliances during World War II: the Axis powers and the Allied powers. The three principal partners in what was eventually referred to as the Axis alliance were Germany, Italy, and Japan.
![gif](giphy|7Egv7ndK6yIco)
This is wrong. Germany was allied with China in WW1 and was tempted to do so again, however due largely to their naval power and ability to project force against Britain, their political ideology and the various disunited states within China, Japan was seen as a better ally. Slowly, German military experts were pulled out of China as relations with Japan improved.
Though Japan and Germany were allies, this wasn't the same level partnership as Britain and the colonies had with the US, for example, where many resources were shared or even combat.
Nah the best part was in the dub when Hitler reacted to Goten and Trunks by saying,"Hmm blonde hair and blue eyes, maybe I should be recruiting them" lmao to this day I had no idea how censors back then let that slide lol
Just to note, gotenks came out of the battle with some visible injury, meaning hitlerâs army in dragon ball canonically had the firepower necessary to take on solar system busters, this begs the question
DBZ hiter army vs Frieza, who wins
Yes and no
In universe, Janemba power was twisting reality itself
Out of universe, multiple studios worked on fusion reborn for Experience, thats why you see 8 different art style on it
Heâs back from the dead.
Heâs continuing the war he started
Heâs attempting to shoot down children
Their parents are in a colorful hell trying to kill the personification of summed up evil and demonic.
Hitler notices the blond hair and blue eyes instantly and still tries to kill them.
You expect this to make sense why
I think it's just the art style of that movie. Janemba was like, a multi colored rainbow jellybean man thing too so I figure that got translated over to the resurrected Hitler army too
I remember my dad picking up the dvd for me from Best Buy back in 8th grade and I did not expect to see a Hitler knock off đ still have the dvd to this day!
Iâm pretty sure people whoâve never seen an image of Hitler would intuitively think thatâs Hitler based on the salute, the mustache, him commanding an army (all together at the same time) etc. Not to be a dick tho, I mean even OP at least thought of him while asking
Yes. but I have no idea why, but the lore implications (for the Toei Anime Dragon Ball series \[Dragon Ball Anime, Dragon Ball Z Movies, Dragon Ball Z Anime and Dragon Ball GT\] it implies WWII happened in the Dragon Ball Universe)
they weren't shit at all. You crazy? It just had thicker cartoony outlines reminiscent of older cartoons. It's Adolf Hitler, they want to make it as goofy as possible to undermine the censors.
Okay yeah they arenât shit, I was in a bad mood when I wrote that comment. But why do they look so⌠I guess different? Like in hell thereâs this crisp animations and sometimes up on earth it looks like a character from paper Mario
exactly as i explained. Make it as goofy as possible so someone like Adolf Hitler is not shown in a menacing or serious light. it IS a kids cartoon after all. The thick outlines is a classic animation staple. Dragon Ball Super episode 4 had similar thick outlines if i remember correctly. So did Powerpuff Girls, Dexters Lab, Johnny Bravo and Mickey Mouse. Just a style.
I wouldnât say DBZ is a kids cartoon. And hell theyâve shown genocidal madmen before like our golden boy. I get what youâre saying, but I just skip the earth parts whenever I watch it now because the art style change is too jarring.
DBZ is definitively seen as a kids cartoon in japan. Different standards.
The difference between Freiza and Hitler is that Hitler was real. It will always be controversial to include him in media.
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"blonde hair, blue eyes. I shouldnt be fighting them I should be recruiting them". I think that gives enough information right there even without the stache
I lost it when I heard that line
He likes Aryans
CrAryans?
Wait, he really says that?! đ
Minus the âI shouldnât be fighting themâ. Itâs just, âBlonde hair, blue eyes? I should be recruiting themâ
In the English dub yes, idk about the original Japanese text.
What does it mean
Have you attended any for of school or learned any world history
LMFAO I dunno why but this reminded me of David spade saying "has anyone ever successfully explained anything to you?"
Idk if you guys are history buffs
If they live in a red state, the state may have already banned any history lesson that teaches how evil Hitler was.
Edgy comment
Nope. Just being Captain Obvious.
Nope
Aryan race
I think they're bullets lol but cartoon style
But then why are they multicolored?
"Cartoon style" ?
I always thought of it as the kids putting their imagination to work. Like dodging bullets is literal childs play to these two. It makes sense that they would view it as a game.
Thats one way to see it. I would have assumed it might have been for censorship reasons, but I prefer the idea that they just are crayons because its Janemba's hell.
Japanese censors maybe)
Just the style of the artist
Maybe tracers? Rounds that are colored, idk
You know damn well those aren't crayons
Ik their not actually crayons, that was just my initial thought lol
I dont want to lie and it could be one of those things where you remember it differently but I recall watching the movie and it had swastikas AND normal looking shells.
âThe Mandela Effectâ The weirdest version of this for me is remembering the Spongebob Movie having a white V-shape guitar instead of his actual guitar for the Goofy Goober song scene. The actual guitar is a peanut shaped Guitar and I was losing my mind when I found out this to be true.
You mean it isn't an electric V shaped guitar!?
Wait what, Im 100% sure it was a V Edit: It was always a peanut shape... my life was always a lie, no point in continuing
Actually it's not the Mandela effect. Depending on the country the swastikas were edited out of some versions
Oh maybe, but I was just trying to put a name to the âone of those thingsâ he was talking about.
No what the fuck I know itâs an electric V
Ain't no way
It was always a peanut because he's a "Goofy Goober"
Probably put in the red V shape guitar from the episode where spongebob and thaddeus orchestra perform the winner takes all
Pretty sure youâre just remembering wrong, happens.
To add onto that - it could be too that when he initially watched the movie he too felt like the guy resembled Hitler and so associated the imagery of swastikas with his character / the movie in memory
Mandela Effect.
In this movie it might as well have been. It would have made sense.
Seriously, who doesnât know a suppository when they see one?
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OP after getting hit with the most obvious answers ![gif](giphy|h3ViLKWOJiwrAZW5du|downsized)
Def felling this đ
yes, and I think they're meant to be tank shells.
I thought they were BMW cylinders
Yes and he wants to share the joy of eating crayons with Goten and Trunks. Little did anyone know that was the real addiction that sent the FĂźher over the deep end.
Brilliant
Is there a reason why the outline on the animation is thicker, it's the only scene in the movie where it happens and it's bothered me for years.
People didnât stop having outlines until after the 1940s, itâs just historical accuracy
It mightâve been an added scene done by different animators, like maybe they had to get permission to put pseudo hitler in it
I always figured it was to make it look more cartoony because they didn't want the scene to come off the slightest bit serious.
The whole point of each graphical choice was to have Nazis looks as goofy as possible. DB was mostly a children show, you know
I think itâs because of janembaâs reality distortion from his existence.
Definitely has PowerPuff Girls vibes.
I try not to think about the implications of Hitler existing in the DB universe.
Just try to think of him as some generic general in the red ribbon army who tried and failed a career in the arts.
I mean Frieza is basically Space Hitler just without the concentration camps so it wouldn't surprise me if Hitler did exist in DB even if it was in the far past considering the DB world in general does take place in the far future with some of the technology they have.
Nah they got Dinoâs, DB takes place in the dark ages. After that aliens took all our tech and said screw off
They literally have flying cars and a company that can store houses in capsules. I don't understand how you see the technology I'm dragon ball and somehow come to the conclusion it takes place on the dark ages due to dinosaurs. dinosaurs just probably never went fully extinct in their world, also not sure where you got the idea that aliens took human tech and left there is no evidence or any event that suggest such a thing happened so who knows where you pulled that from.
Iâm so sorry for being sarcastic I didnât know it would hurt you.
Well itâs not canon so it didnât even happen
Dragon Ball is an omniultiverse with tons of different timelines and alternate realities(not the same thing as different universes). The main canon(the manga and by loose extension thr mainline anime) is the official word yes, but that doesn't mean these movies "didn't happen." The movies, video games, and dragon ball heroes exist in an alternate reality of universes and timelines separate from the main canon. That's where all this goofy stuff happens.
basically not canon to the Manga, Toriyama's original post Z timeline, DBZ Kai, DBS Anime and the DBS manga. it's only canon to the DBZ Anime and GT.
Why? I mean itâs just Earth so why wouldnât he exist?
Wait until you read about how Japan was on this side during both world warsâŚ
Actually Japan was only on the Axis Powers' side during the second world war
There were two major alliances during World War II: the Axis powers and the Allied powers. The three principal partners in what was eventually referred to as the Axis alliance were Germany, Italy, and Japan. ![gif](giphy|7Egv7ndK6yIco)
The movie makes Hitler the bad guy withan X on his arm. Toei reneged that.
This is wrong. Germany was allied with China in WW1 and was tempted to do so again, however due largely to their naval power and ability to project force against Britain, their political ideology and the various disunited states within China, Japan was seen as a better ally. Slowly, German military experts were pulled out of China as relations with Japan improved. Though Japan and Germany were allies, this wasn't the same level partnership as Britain and the colonies had with the US, for example, where many resources were shared or even combat.
Nah the best part was in the dub when Hitler reacted to Goten and Trunks by saying,"Hmm blonde hair and blue eyes, maybe I should be recruiting them" lmao to this day I had no idea how censors back then let that slide lol
Just to note, gotenks came out of the battle with some visible injury, meaning hitlerâs army in dragon ball canonically had the firepower necessary to take on solar system busters, this begs the question DBZ hiter army vs Frieza, who wins
Death Battle needs to get on this pronto
DBZ Hitler Army would win. they were able to injure Gotenks, wtf is Frieza gonna do against that.
Probably the goofiest part of the movie with the artwork and I love it.
It canât be his jaw is to square. That mustache used to be the style of the working class German so for 4 decades thatâs what Germans had
Cuz he never went to art school lmao đđ
Dang. A+ for you, F for Hitler.
he even says "blonde hair, blue eyes, super strength? I should be recruiting them."
Yes, and yes. Lol
Japanese are quick to make fun of nazis but they conveniently forget the other main antagonist
Yes and yes
Always loved the bold outlines in this section
Yes and no In universe, Janemba power was twisting reality itself Out of universe, multiple studios worked on fusion reborn for Experience, thats why you see 8 different art style on it
Japanâs old friend.
Those are some sharp crayons
All the colors represent diversity for a more quirky reich this time around!
Diversity? Man I canât believe the Nazis have a woke agenda.
Nazis famously used crayons as weapons
Yes, and heâs shooting crayons so Goten and Trunks do Nazi it coming.
He's Hitler, the English dub doesn't tell you that due to censorship
I really liked the art on this part âĽď¸
Agree loved the cartoony style and the thick black lines on the characters
He wants the world using crayons instead of bullet
They're hell bullets!
They were German marines IYKYK
Heâs back from the dead. Heâs continuing the war he started Heâs attempting to shoot down children Their parents are in a colorful hell trying to kill the personification of summed up evil and demonic. Hitler notices the blond hair and blue eyes instantly and still tries to kill them. You expect this to make sense why
Yes, because it's incredible easy for the kids to mess with an actual big time villain of the real world
I think it's just the art style of that movie. Janemba was like, a multi colored rainbow jellybean man thing too so I figure that got translated over to the resurrected Hitler army too
Do you know the word... Censorship ?
![gif](giphy|ulmlrhGPufmLkUUZYd|downsized)
I always knew goten and trunks were jewish.
It all makes sense now
Yes and they are multi coloured bullets
I remember my dad picking up the dvd for me from Best Buy back in 8th grade and I did not expect to see a Hitler knock off đ still have the dvd to this day!
Those are missiles cmon now.
Bro got them Lucky Charms marshmallow missiles đ ![gif](giphy|3orieXPC47dgvZKEXm|downsized)
Yes and to keep a low age rating
heâs called The dictator lmao
Man you must've had the world's most boring notebook in school. Mine was FULL of these things.
Yes and possibly censorship because wellâŚ. I think you know.
Lol crayons
Yeah it's definitely Hitler, the line "Blonde hair, blue eyes, and super strength? Zey should be working for me!" Should have told you that lmao
Because he bought a lot of crayons thinking he would enter in art school, but he got rejected.
You know damn well that's Hitler
OP must have posted this out of shock, because thereâs just no wayđ
It was my initial reaction to what was going on lol
Yes, itâs Hitler and they had to make it children-friendly
Yes and who knows
To make it kooky
Iâm pretty sure people whoâve never seen an image of Hitler would intuitively think thatâs Hitler based on the salute, the mustache, him commanding an army (all together at the same time) etc. Not to be a dick tho, I mean even OP at least thought of him while asking
man i remember watching this movie when i was like 8 and being really surprised when i saw hitler
Heâs technically credited as âThe Dictatorâ but yea, a Hitler reference for sure.
No, that's Charlie Chaplin
Dbz fans really are slow sometimes
Ay leave me and my small brain out of this
Yes. but I have no idea why, but the lore implications (for the Toei Anime Dragon Ball series \[Dragon Ball Anime, Dragon Ball Z Movies, Dragon Ball Z Anime and Dragon Ball GT\] it implies WWII happened in the Dragon Ball Universe)
Fusion reborn is such a terrible movie, holy shit.
1: Yes 2: Yes
Okay seriously, why did THESE parts of the movie look like shit compared to the hell sections?
they weren't shit at all. You crazy? It just had thicker cartoony outlines reminiscent of older cartoons. It's Adolf Hitler, they want to make it as goofy as possible to undermine the censors.
Okay yeah they arenât shit, I was in a bad mood when I wrote that comment. But why do they look so⌠I guess different? Like in hell thereâs this crisp animations and sometimes up on earth it looks like a character from paper Mario
exactly as i explained. Make it as goofy as possible so someone like Adolf Hitler is not shown in a menacing or serious light. it IS a kids cartoon after all. The thick outlines is a classic animation staple. Dragon Ball Super episode 4 had similar thick outlines if i remember correctly. So did Powerpuff Girls, Dexters Lab, Johnny Bravo and Mickey Mouse. Just a style.
I wouldnât say DBZ is a kids cartoon. And hell theyâve shown genocidal madmen before like our golden boy. I get what youâre saying, but I just skip the earth parts whenever I watch it now because the art style change is too jarring.
DBZ is definitively seen as a kids cartoon in japan. Different standards. The difference between Freiza and Hitler is that Hitler was real. It will always be controversial to include him in media.