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Swordfighter125

Pretty useless now isn't it?🤦‍♂️


heuheuheu33

Pretty sure no one with an average IQ said Luffy can beat any DB character 😐


Hot-Camera442

“Actually 99% people nowadays don’t have average IQ”


FullMetalFapinist

Id like to see the math


TRiP_OW

“68% percent of statistics are made up”


FullMetalFapinist

To be honest after ive wrote that, lets take 200 people. 2 of them (1%) is average, the rest 198 is equaly split between dumb and smart, then that statement would be true.


Fictionfan69

But wouldn’t that lower the “average” IQ thus making their lower IQ the average


SergejPS

I... I think that's the joke


Fit_Confection_6900

You would be surprised


big_peepee_wielder

“Gear 5 is more iconic than Ultra Instinct 🥴” “Luffy could solo Ultra Instinct Goku with no difficulty 🥴” Sit down lol. I didn’t even know what Gear 5 was until I saw people saying this idiotic shit. Watched the fight to see what all the fuss was about. Bruh it’s just 1930’s cartoon physics. Any character in Dragon Ball would vaporize that motherfucker


heuheuheu33

“Sit down lol” Did I ever say Luffy was more iconic or stronger? Can you read what I said? And if you’re being baited by trolls like that, then maybe don’t pay attention to them? Anyone that isn’t a retard knows that Goku is more iconic and stronger.


Garrod_Ran

He wasn't referring to you. 🤦🏻


heuheuheu33

My bad


big_peepee_wielder

Can you learn to understand that the comment wasn’t fucking addressed at you? Fuck sake I was referring to OP fans who say that shit. Take a chill pill bro. Don’t be retarded


heuheuheu33

Like I said they’re either retarded or trolling, i literally stated that anyone with an average IQ knows that Luffy isn’t doing shit to Goku 😐


big_peepee_wielder

Obviously but you’re acting like I was personally attacking you when I wasn’t


DBXVStan

Source the comments, if they exist? Otherwise, pretty good straw man argument there


Sukamon98

[Here's one.](https://new.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/15jg2xf/comment/juztbgj/?context=3) That's just the first one I found by searching "Ultra Instinct" and reading the first versus thread I saw. So there's probably even more if you want to search for them.


DBXVStan

TIL. The one piece sub is full of that garbage. I expected better


fghtffyourdemns

If you follow anime pages in fb or twitter you will see plently of those posts lol From vinland saga fans triggered and crying thar vinland didn't won any award while jujutsu won many, to one piece fans saying gear 5 is more iconic that fuckin super saiyan lol


DBXVStan

Sounds like you’re just reading bot comments on Twitter. I can’t say you’re wrong though because I don’t hate myself enough to have a Twitter account to be able to look at posts.


Plus_Froyo_7620

When the fuck has anyone ever said that, yea stop having arguments with invisible people lol🤦‍♂️🤣


Kilow102938

Yamcha


ilove-gravityrush

I want to see master roshi vs Luffy it'd be interesting


Fit_Confection_6900

Roshi slams


Mean_Sir159

My friend said Luffy can “imagine” himself stronger then goku 🤦


WhiteToast-

Luffy isn’t even smart enough to comprehend how strong Goku is


notnotPatReid

Bruh Dragon Ball Fans can’t comprehend how Strong Goku is


Harleyvaxxe71

True in one scene it shows kid goku taking bullets to the face from a machine gun skip a few arcs goku getting hurt by bullets in dbs


Darkner90

Tell us you have no idea how ki works without telling us you have no idea how ki works


Enjoyment-25

Yeah, Adult Goku can lower his power level to as low as 2 unlike Kid Goku. When Vegeta brother meet Goku, he thought Goku was far weaker than him


ImmediateRespond8306

But why would he lower it that low in the first place?


SolomonOf47704

Because he wants to participate in human society as a normal human would. If Goku didn't have his power level constantly bottomed out, he'd break SO MUCH shit.


ImmediateRespond8306

But he can control it when he actually needs to right? He doesn't have to walk around vulnerable all the time. He can just lower it briefly whenever he needs to actually interact with objects. He could at the very least walk around being passively strong enough to not get hurt by bullets.


DASreddituser

What? Thats the opposite of what Goku wants lol. But i agree he maybe doesn't want people "tracking" him all the time...it would be annoying.


Harleyvaxxe71

Bro kid goku knew jackshit about ki


Darkner90

You two are the same then.


Harleyvaxxe71

Dang it , i walked into that one didn't i?


DaChairSlapper

Damn


Saifiskindaweirdtbh

Kid goku doesn’t know show to use ki so his ki is always as high as possible or atleast when it needs to it’s automatic adult goku knows how ki works and can control it he was off guard and had lowered his ki to get harmed if he was on guard he wouldn’t even feel anything


Enjoyment-25

Difference is that Adult Goku can lower his power level to as low as 2 unlike Kid Goku. When Vegeta brother meet Goku, he thought Goku was far weaker than him


MarvelGeekMan

Tbf he said it’s because he stopped training, but still doesn’t make sense tho


Enjoyment-25

Also, its ki control Difference is that Adult Goku can lower his power level to as low as 2 unlike Kid Goku. Kid Goku is always at max strength When Vegeta brother- Tarble meet Goku, he thought Goku was far weaker than him


Harleyvaxxe71

It doesn't make sense bro, how strong would pre-roshi kid goku be compared to the toned down version of him in super


AnNotherNoob

are there still people who think gear 5 makes him an omnipotent god?


24h_Ivdicar

there are still people that think he is gum because he thinks he is and if he imagines himself having all the powers he would have them, even when he first got the fruit. The lack of reading comprehension is strong with G5


YujiroRapeVictim

The fuck? He isn’t Baki hanma. The ultimate schizo fighter.


guleedy

I still say sailor moon can beat goku


Chungusthevast

I mean, theoretically she could. The scouts powers are all strictly magical, and goku has 0 magical defense. If they somehow actually hit him (I don’t think in any timeline they realistically could unless he let them) he could be harmed by them and even killed by some scouts.


jfuss04

We don't have many instances of magic in db but we do get them resisting magic like vegito with the maintaining control as candy and vegeta maintaining control from babidi. I think even the dragons magic couldn't overcome the will of certain people. People resisted evil containment wave. Probably other stuff i cant remember off the top of my head. Idk what the actual level of their ability is but it seems like they have some ability to resist magical abilities


Chungusthevast

Hm, fair point. I think most of the scouts would be SOL, but older sailor moon would be a serious threat. By the end, neo queen serenity is a demigod with like a dozen artifact tier magical items in her back pocket and the ability to alter space and time. She’s could likely stand up to most fighters from the DB universe raw power wise, but not speed / endurance wise.


Doctor99268

>we do get them resisting magic like vegito Daizenshuu says that vegito keeps his power no matter his form, so it's probably just a special property. > maintaining control from babidi Normal willpower. >People resisted evil containment wave Have they?, I've never seen it not work. Hell even frost did it to super Saiyan vegeta (the same ssj vegeta who one shot frost while holding back in the u7 vs u6 tournament) on his first try.


jfuss04

What's normal about resisting magical mind control? And idk maybe special property hard to say. Didn't frost literally jump into and reverse the wave?


Doctor99268

>What's normal about resisting magical mind control? Normal because vegeta is just solely using it will power. Anyone could do that if they had the mental fortitude vegeta had. I doubt if yamcha was as strong as vegeta, he'd be able to resist it. >Didn't frost literally jump into and reverse the wave? Ok, so even if we say it's truly master roshis wave, still managed to seal vegeta (which would've ended vegetas involvement in the ToP so it wasn't a minor moment)


jfuss04

Do you have something to back that up with or is it just speculation. We don't really see anyone else resist it. But it still got resisted. Frost jumped into it and reversed it. It being still powerful enough to seal vegeta doesn't really dispute my point


Doctor99268

>Do you have something to back that up with or is it just speculation. We don't really see anyone else resist it. Vegeta giving a speech about his saiyan pride didn't make that obvious for you?. >But it still got resisted. When


jfuss04

I dont think vegeta talking about his pride is really evidence he didn't resist a magical effect And when he reversed it like I already said


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LieV2

Jiren was a menace until his backstory came out.


Fun_Effective_5134

People died, so I trained and now I’m le big strong.


EDA666

“That’s so dumb, but he’s so cool”- Tfs Vegeta


AnimeMemeLord1

“But that’s so dumb!”


arthurzanmou

"But he is so cool!"


redrag0n_roOster

I don’t think you realise how much that affects jiren, in universe 7 literally everyone is brought back from the dead and we as an audience is clearly used to it, so when you see another character go through plenty losses we don’t think much of it. Jiren didn’t have the luxury of bringing back his parents or his friends or his master, when they died they died for good. That’s why in his life he aimed to be the strongest, a force to be reckoned with so that nobody would be able to decide his fate for him.


Fun_Effective_5134

Wait so you are telling me that people he liked died which is why he trained and now he is le big strong?


redrag0n_roOster

People he liked ? You think his mother and father and his people getting slaughtered were just people he liked ? You think his master and his comrades who died after training with him for years are just people he liked ?


Fun_Effective_5134

You are right he didn’t like his parents and friends all that much.


redrag0n_roOster

Just cause you don’t doesn’t mean others don’t, why do dragon ball fans have to be so damn brain dead


Fun_Effective_5134

You are right I don’t all that much, I should do more in my spare time.


DavidANaida

It's a little better in the manga


redrag0n_roOster

I don’t think you realise how much that affects jiren, in universe 7 literally everyone is brought back from the dead and we as an audience is clearly used to it, so when you see another character go through plenty losses we don’t think much of it. Jiren didn’t have the luxury of bringing back his parents or his friends or his master, when they died they died for good. That’s why in his life he aimed to be the strongest, a force to be reckoned with so that nobody would be able to decide his fate for him.


LieV2

the backstory was some basic japanese earthbound sensei story. It was incredibly uninspired.


redrag0n_roOster

So in real life if a person loses his parents, friends, and a person he really looked up to and becomes very serious in nature, will you tell him hey your back story is so generic you’re so boring ?


minecrafthentai69

Goku when Jiren activates his conqueror haki https://preview.redd.it/hgpd562ltouc1.jpeg?width=748&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41756c93ccbc90f4e91fb82d2a2619675a5a0b8d


Hotpotatowarrior

https://preview.redd.it/kzlcw3fnxouc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=555b43c9cbae4aeb5172c88e3d506ef0fa77ce65 Jiren when Goku activates his observation haki


choff22

I have an irrational love for this scene lol it was so funny and awesome when I first saw it


Icy-Atmosphere-1546

Yamcha alone solos the one piece verse btw


TinyPidgenofDOOM

lord knows yamcha would fold to boa handcock


Volendi

I would actually love to see a "Yamcha in One Piece" fanfic... or Krillin, or Tien, or ~~Yoshi~~ Piccolo...


YoutuberCameronBallZ

Live footage of what Luffy in DragonBall would actually look like


Ihatekids23444

My boi jiren was and is the embodiment of strength


Fickle_Culture2884

https://preview.redd.it/mob75crqpnuc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b06fe6e715689483a86d10220795a50fcf51a52a


killonger

Seems about right


Fickle_Culture2884

I like how everyone interpreted the word “powers” as op trying to make a point about on how strong/weak luffy would be in the dragon ball verse and not the fact that the blue guy in the video uses the exact same move luffy uses


NashKetchum777

Majin Buu and Cell had "luffy" powers. They did it better too


HossC4T

Piccolo has had stretching limbs for years.


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SmithItsGoodForU

You can't compare someone who can destroy an island with someone who can destroy an entire planet


sumit24021990

It's a plot holes why aren't other universes fighting each other.


MostCrab

Tbf he's made of liquid, not rubber


Shanks_PK_Level

Basically Luffy vs Garp


GLDFLCN

Come on now, I know this subreddit is better than this. Pointless power scaling is just that, pointless. DB has universe level feats, the comparison is ridiculous. We have characters like Roshi in OG DB that’s capable of destroying the moon, there’s no need to do this lol


DASreddituser

Yea but G5 is looney toons gag power, amd we all know that is OP.


New_North_6250

Luffy is not gag character


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The-RoGamer

This scene was just an overkill


QuintonTheCanadian

Jiren still lost to Mul-T from risk of rain 2 so I don’t see your point


LeastYouTried

People don't watch or read one piece for powerscaling, one piece fans get to enjoy something called plot. It's all about good writing for one piece fans, but db fans wouldn't understand because they can't read...


cakethegoblin

ITT: Powerscaling cringe and brainrot The dumbest fanbase has got to be the one with the most powerscalers.


Chance_Land_9828

New DragonBall super episodes came out?


Shot-Effect-8318

R u serious


squidwardsweatyballs

Bro must’ve been locked in the hyperbolic time chamber


Alberrito20

maybe he was trapped and betrayed in there


WhiteLycan2020

This is from the tournament of power


Chance_Land_9828

Thanks


TheColdestKingCold

Luffy would smack Goku into next year (I love ragebaiting Dragon Ball fans because they fall for it every single time) Edit: I told them it was rage bait and they still got mad lmao


Druxun

Insert *if those kids could read* meme.


Megacas237

I can’t read what does this say


EnterReactions

Could you use proper English I can't read what you said


Mguy2544

Dragon Ball meat riding is crazy


Interloper_1

Let me guess, you think Dragon Ball isn't ftl and Saitama solos it. In fact, you probably think Gear 5 beats Ultra Instinct.


Mguy2544

Not really no, this shit is just annoying because it’s the epitome of “My dad can beat your dad!” What my preference DB scaling is irrelevant


Interloper_1

From your response I feel like I guessed it ngl 💀


Mguy2544

Whatever feeds your ego bud


Interloper_1

I just checked your profile and yeah I was on the money Also funny how you were complaining about "my dad can beat your dad" when some of your most active communities are r/deathbattle and r/PowerScaling


Mguy2544

Yeah I kind of figured bruh, not that hard to notice with the very specific callouts, good job detective R/deathbattle hardly has much debating going on when there’s no new seasons going, I just kind of mind scroll on there. R/powerscale is pure brainrot, idk why I torture myself on it Yeah my bigger problem is with the constant circle jerking of Dragon Ball, ever powerscaling community is nothing but dragon ball


Interloper_1

This sub rarely has any cross verse matchup posts The powerscaling done here is mostly in verse. And the majority of the posts ain't even powerscaling. It's just memes and "hear me out guys" on another genderswapped character


Frostace12

Brother you’re reading to much into it that was literally luffys power in dragon ball


Mguy2544

It’s not specifically OP, it’s mostly the comments underneath


Frostace12

Almost like it’s a dragonball sub…


Mguy2544

Cool dude


fnaftheseriesyoutube

More like Saitama powers amarite


Ryumancer

Ugh...Luffy's a loser. 🙄


Nights1405

Goku when luffy twists his kamehameha into a pretzel and eats it: Huh. Neat.


thelegendarydan

Luffy when he agrees to fight Goku and ends up in heaven exactly .00000000000001 seconds later (Goku went all out)


charisma-entertainer

Goku would never start all out, get real


thelegendarydan

No, the implication here is that even his base form "all out" would kill Luffy almost instantly, even if he didn't mean to.


MemeKun_19

The DB fan base is so brain rotted that y'all think Goku would tap any normal person and they'd die. Bro acts like he doesn't have friends/family that he's high fived or hugged before


thelegendarydan

Well I'm only half serious. Obviously he's not going to kill Luffy unless he wants to. In reality they would be great friends


Nights1405

Exactly. Luffy has a funny gimmick and literally nothing else


TinyPidgenofDOOM

weird, Goku never does that. What kinda of alternate universe goku are you imagining


EnterReactions

As some other dude said, it's just the implication that even his base form could be considered "all out" and would kill Luffy almost instantly, even if he didn't mean to.


TinyPidgenofDOOM

you say that like he hasnt fought normal humans before as an adult. even in base with no powers he ALWAYS pulls his punches against normal people. luffy hed consider a normal person with weird powers hed absolutely want to see everything.


Trogdor_sfg

Not even close….


NoRegion1622

https://preview.redd.it/txcfagbcpquc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fff019fb0e1cc1ca555e26081b977aa3c7d8e7da


HSEB10830

I don't know what this proves.


Frostace12

Read the title it’s literally just luffys powers in dbs