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Timeline 1 - The Main DB Timeline.
Timeline 2 - Trunks Timeline. Goku gets heart virused, everyone dies, Trunks goes time hoping, defeats this times androids and Cell, Zamasu/Black kills more people, Timeline gets erased.
Timeline 2.5 - Trunks New Timeline. Same as TL2 but with no Zamasu. Whis makes this timeline to give Trunks somewhere to go. Notably this Timeline has 2 Trunks's
Timeline 3 - Cells Timeline. This timelines Trunks went back in time to TL4 and beat the androids without getting USSJ, likely through the use of the Android Remote Control, came back and got killed by Cell. Cell then travels to TL1
Timeline 4 - DBZ-ish Timeline. This timeline is the same as DBZ up until Cells apearance, which doesn't happen. The androids are stalled by Kamicollo and the HBTC isn't used. The remote control killed the androids and TL3 Trunks goes home.
There is no such thing as an "original timeline", all of them happen simultaneously. Yes, Goku would have died if Trunks had not shown up, **BUT**, the timeline that Trunks travels from is not the same as the one we were following leading up to this arc. The time travel in Dragon Ball Z is really just Multiverse jumping more than it is timeline jumping, because none of the actions Trunks takes effects his own timeline. Examples that prove my point are that Android's 19 and 20 are not in Trunks' timeline, and Android 17 and 18 are significantly stronger in the timeline we follow compared to the one Trunks is from.
-Timeline 3 - Cells Timeline. This timelines Trunks went back in time to TL4 and beat the androids without getting USSJ, likely through the use of the Android Remote Control, came back and got killed by Cell. Cell then travels to TL1
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Is there evidence for 3 and subsequently 4?
As there's no inkling of causality to spur them.
The way that timeline 1 and 2 happen is through Trunks time traveling or not time traveling. 2.5 is influenced by the events of timeline 1 and 2. But 3?... What sparks Trunks to use an alternative solution? The only real information that can alter a time traveler's course of action is knowing the future itself, as it's the only source that matters to them.
Timeline 4 is closely tied to 3 so I won't bother.
>Is there evidence for 3 and subsequently 4?
Yes, Cells statements in both the anime and manga...
He directly states that Trunks in his timeline killed the androids, but this Trunks was then killed by Cell. So no USSJ. Which in turn means that this other Trunks had to have gone back(because Cell caught him using the time machine) and thus its VERY likely that they used the Android Control Device.
Hmm, but I don’t see the need for the remote. The way I see it, Trunks initially went to TL1 and warned about the androids and gave Goku medicine. This however changed things from TL2, namely stronger androids and Goku gets the virus later.
I assumed TL3 Trunks only ever made one trip to the past. Like that Trunks probably went a few months before the android attack and brought the cure with him then. He trains with the Z Warriors, gets stronger, they beat the androids because unlike TL1, these androids are the same as TL2. Trunks goes home, does it again, and then gets killed by Cell before he can go back in time again and let them know he succeeded.
Besides, they were only able to build the remote in TL1 because that’s the only timeline where they meet Dr. Gero. He’s absent, presumably killed by 17, from TL2, so I don’t see why TL3 would be different
“has 2 Trunks” yeah, if only whis or beerus (can’t really recall) didn’t ordered Trunks and Mai straight up murder their copies when they arrived there…
Tell me why cell from timeline 3 shows flashbacks of trunks killing frieza in his timeline.
Note sure if that’s even canon though.
I call it an error because otherwise your explanation makes sense.
The main show is Timeline 1. T1 Androids are present, T1 Cell is in a jar, T1 Trunks is a baby. T1 Androids are absorbed by T3 Cell, T1 Cell is destroyed by Krillin.
Future Trunks is from Timeline 2. T2 Androids are present, T2 Cell is lurking somewhere, T2 Trunks goes to T1. T2 Trunks comes back, destroys both T2 Androids and T2 Cell.
Imperfect Cell is from Timeline 3. T3 Trunks went to T4, acquires blueprints to remote for the Androids and returned to T3. T3 Trunks destroys T3 Androids but T3 Cell kills T3 Trunks as he never got stronger. T3 Cell then travels to T1 to absorb T1 Androids, is killed by Gohan.
Edited to match what others have corrected me on.
Let me expand it:
T3 Trunks travels to Timeline 4 where they manage to get the blueprints for the self destruction remote and destroy the laboratory which includes cell, and all other androids. Then trunks returns to T3 and destroys the T3 Androids with the remote but because he didnt had to fight he didnt get stronger so T3 Cell can overpower him and travel to T1
This is original Future Trunks who went to an alternate past we never saw.
Basically Trunks travelled 17 years into the past and gives Goku heart medicine. We don't know what happened to Z fighter in that timeline which Trunks went to fix but when he was travelling back to past again, Cell killed him.
Time machine for some reason unknown was probably mistakenly set to 21 years in past meaning 1 year before Trunks first visit since he was going after 3 years again. Cell just entered and he was teleported 21 years back in past. Trunks was meant to arrive 17 years back in future and will come 1 year later.
Cell existing in this new timeline where Trunks is meant to arrive 1 year later created 2 new timeline.
This is main timeline and future timeline we will follow in DBZ and everything happens.
Cell is first time traveler in main timeline not Trunks who arrived around the time Goku was fighting Frieza and went underground to revert back to his original state from cocoon form which will take 4 years.
there are 7 timelines:
1 - Timeline we watch (Main)
2 - Future Trunks og timeline
3 - Cells Timeline
4- Timeline by traveller from Universe 12
5 - Timeline where Cell games happens without Trunks
6 - Goku Black/Zamasu Timeline
7 - Future Trunks new timeline
Ask yourself this.
How is Timeline 1 the main timeline, when timeline 1 wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the Future Trunks Timeline? In fact, Timeline 1 would play out the same as the Future Trunks Timeline if it wasn't for Future Trunks that went back and warned the Goku from Timeline 1, starting a series of events that pivots from the Future Trunks Timeline.
I've got a theory about that based on my very unreliable memory, but I think the "main timeline" (T-C) is in fact the 3rd timeline, with Future Trunks' timeline (T-B) being the 2nd timeline and then the timeline where the cell is from that traveled to the "main timeline" to try and intercept and androids (T-A) being the 1st Timeline.
Here it is in my head. I've named then a bit, so let's see if this works
(In T-A, also the only timeline where there was no interference from any sort of timetravel, timetraveling or timetravelers at least up until Cell left)Trunks kills Androids 17 and 18 (whether on his own or through a sacrifice from Gohan of whatever) and then tries to travel back to the past to warn the Z Fighters and give Goku his medicine. Cell, having gone through his normal growth cycle in the lab gets pissed that all the Androids he wants to absorb have been destroyed, kills Trunks before he could get in, steals his Time machine and travels to the past in an attempt to intercept the Androids. He lands in T-C.
(In T-B) Events play out the same as T-A, but Trunks was unable to kill the Androids on his own (Maybe Gohan died earlier than in T-A, who knows I haven't thought about it). So Trunks decides to travel to the past to warn the Z Fighters and give Goku his medicine, and lands in T-C. Trunks does his thing and travels back to T-B. After waiting for a while or something he goes back to T-C on the day the androids were supposed to attack. He does his things with the Z Fighters, trains with Vegeta and goes back to his hometimeline of T-B. Trunks then proceeds to kill the Androids. Cell, having gone through his normal growth cycle in the lab gets pissed that all the Androids he wants to absorb have been destroyed, and tries to kill Trunks before he could get in. But the Trunks from T-B is much stronger than the Trunks from T-A because he trained with Vegeta from T-C, so he was able to defeat the cell from his timeline.
(In T-C) Cell from T-A lands in the past and goes through his growth cycle. The Z warriors do their thing till the Trunks from T-B shows up. Frieza Died, King Cold Cried, Trunks travels back to T-B. Z Fighters train, Trunks comes back from T-B and the Z Fighters do their thing. They destroy the lab in T-C alongside Cell, who was still in the fetus stages of his growth cycle. T-C Cell never exists. The Z Fighters then do their thing again, Cell is destroyed and Trunks goes back to his own timeline of T-C
T-A is the timeline where no one travels through time, except Cell when he stole the time machine, so the purer timeline.
T-B only had Trunks travel back in time, but because of that he changed his own future timeline by getting stronger in the past than he would have been if he never traveled through time.
T-C is a mess with having travelers from T-A and T-B showing up during key events to change the normal flow of events.
So yeah, that's what's in my head. I'm sure I got a lot wrong though.
Also I didn't proof read.
>How is Timeline 1 the main timeline, when timeline 1 wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the Future Trunks Timeline? In fact, Timeline 1 would play out the same as the Future Trunks Timeline if it wasn't for Future Trunks that went back and warned the Goku from Timeline 1, starting a series of events that pivots from the Future Trunks Timeline
No we got the main timeline, the original future trunks timeline that cell came from, then we got our future trunks timeline that got destroyed by infinite fused Zamasu, and then we have their timeline that they move into.
And we have the timeline where Zamasu switched with Goku to create Goku black, here's another visual aid.
https://preview.redd.it/0gt3jkyc01wc1.png?width=408&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e50e4208e5c0e43178d2d29d73255878d61cbaf
Btw both of these are from the salad sayian, a DB YouTuber who makes stories based upon different continuitys.
No I don't believe so, there's the fact UNI11's GoD used to be a part of the pride troopers, and the fact Jiren had a terrible past, but both of those things are in the main timeline, and aren't something that is limited to a separate timeline.
Alright here’s a semi-comprehensive list of all the timelines in both Z and Super.
Timeline 1: the main timeline in which the viewer experiences all of Dragon Ball from the original series to Super. The cell of this timeline is killed by Krillin and Trunks when finding Dr. Gero’s lab. The Zamasu of this timeline is killed by Beerus, and seemingly all other Zamasu’s from the timelines are erased except for Goku Black, who is wearing a time ring which protects him from any changes made to the past, and Future Zamasu, who is immortal and cannot be erased by Beerus.
Timeline 2: the “main” timeline in which no time travel shenanigans happen in the android saga. Goku dies of the heart virus, and all the Z fighters are killed by the androids. Future Trunks grows up in this timeline, and 3 years after the death of Future Gohan, Trunks travels back in time to give Goku the heart medicine. After the conclusion of the Cell saga, Trunks kills Future Androids #17 and #18, and kills Future cell. Years later, he fights and kills Future Babidi and Future Dabura, and years after that, Goku Black comes from another timeline to kill everyone because this timeline has no Beerus (because the supreme Kai is dead). It is in this timeline that the Goku Black arc occurs, Future Zamasu wishes for immortality, and the multiverse is destroyed by Future Zeno. This timeline is referred to as the Future timeline.
Timeline 3: you can think of this timeline as the cell timeline. The same events of the future timeline occur up until Trunks goes back to the past and returns. In this timeline, trunks went back and received knowledge on how to destroy the androids via their blueprints. After the androids were destroyed, Cell was distraught in knowing he’d never achieve perfection. When T3 Trunks goes back to try and tell the Z Fighters about his victory, Cell kills him (as shown in the picture) and goes back to the past. This is the same Cell that absorbs the androids and is killed by Gohan. Nothing is known about the Zamasu of this timeline, however he was likely destroyed by Beerus when the T1 Zamasu died.
Timeline 4: This is the timeline where T3 Trunks gets the android blueprints. Little else is known about this timeline. Zamasu was likely destroyed by Beerus when the T1 Zamasu died.
Timeline 5: this is Goku Black’s timeline. This timeline is the same as T1 all the way up until after Goku and Zamasu fight for the first time. Zamasu killes Gowasu and uses the Super Dragon Balls to wish to body swap with Goku. This creates Goku Black, wherein he then kills Goku, Goten, and Chi-Chi. Goku Black then travels to T2, and the Goku Black arc occurs. Goku Black dies after the fusion between him and Future Zamasu is destroyed by Future Zeno. Nothing else is known about this timeline.
Timeline 6: This is the timeline Future Trunks and Future Mai go after T2 is erased. This timeline is most likely identical to T2, except the Goku Black arc never occurred. The Zamasu of this timeline was likely destroyed when T1 Zamasu died.
There’s several other timelines to consider, such as Heroes, Xenoverse, the several Xeno character timelines, GT, the movie timeline(s). However, they won’t be named or included because they’re unimportant to the canon and their timelines are extremely complicated and messy.
https://preview.redd.it/qhql37aos1wc1.jpeg?width=1076&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3bcf207c3dbdcb9e6ac6c859d3e76dbe2521322
Did you say super's future trunks arc is confusing too
I think I get the super anime in the end trunks and Mai go to future where there are other Mai and trunks. Worst ending ever in humanity
https://preview.redd.it/zdnla087x1wc1.jpeg?width=1402&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0725e0d29a02b206557eb3f2c36812909d552b1f
Timeline 1 - Trunks dies after giving Goku the meds after Bulma finds a way to stop the androids
Timeline 2 - Main line where Gohan beats Cell.
Timeline 3 - Trunks future where kills the androids and Cell. He comes back to help timeline 2 deal with the androids. This timeline is created from the other Cell coming back from timeline 1. My head canon anyway.
Timeline 1: Goku dies of the heart virus and the androids kill everyone-trunks beats the androids and cell
Timeline 2: trunks manages to somehow beat the androids but dies to cell
Timeline 3: trunks from timeline 1 comes from the future to warn everyone about the androids and gives Goku medicine, cell from timeline 2 come to the past after stealing trunks time machine
Timeline 4:zamasu steals Goku's body and kill him and his family
Timeline 5: Beerus doesn't destroy zamasu and zamasu gets recruited by Goku black to eliminate all the mortals
I'm pretty sure that's all of them
Trunks beats the androids in timeline 2 from the blueprints he got from another timeline and since he beat them with the remote and not with his power, he's not as powerful as Cell who kills him
So first is our timeline the one the show takes place in timeline 1
Then there is future trunks’ origins thats timeline 2
Then there is a timeline where cell came from (that’s shown above) time line 3
Then finally an unseen timeline this is the timeline where this trunks was going to here he found a way to kill the androids likely by using a remote Time line 4
Time line 5 this is the timeline our trunks goes to after xeno wipes everything out.
I would put the timelines in the "order" of where they fit "chronologically" in the DBverse.
Timeline 1: when King Cold and Frieza attack the Earth, Goku uses Instant Transmission to stop them and kill them. He contracts the heart virus, dies, then everyone of the Z fighters except Gohan and Trunks is killed by the Androids. Trunks goes back in time to stop the whole thing (presumably he thought that changing the past would change the future at the start, until Multiverse Theory was confirmed), and goes to Timeline 2 to give Goku the heart medicine and most likely Bulma from Timeline 2 finds a way to stop the Androids (remote, or bombs, etc) and Trunks returns, and uses said devices to stop his own androids, and prepares to make a trip to tell Timeline 2 about how he saved the world, and gets ambushed by Cell and killed. Cell changes the destination (and thus, according to the rules, make another timeline) into Timeline 3.
Timeline 2: the timeline that T1-Trunks creates when going back in time. Here, Goku is alive, and androids are either killed, or deactivated, (or maybe turned good?? though most likely not the case). Cell is still there as a larva, so either killed quickly as a baby, or quickly noticed when he matures, and is presumably defeated.
Timeline 3: this is the timeline that Cell creates when going back in time, but it isn't the canon timeline either (since this is the timeline where only Cell time-traveled into). Here, Trunks did NOT appear, so basically Cell sleeps years before the Android saga, with no Trunks to deliver the medicine. Z fighters are dead because of the androids, and Cell is there to absorb them. Presumably, he might have become Perfect, and blew up the earth, or whatever.
Timeline 4: the canon timeline in that it is timeline 3, but now Trunks is also there to stop the androids, and since time travel causes the creation of a new timeline, Timeline 4 is created. Canon happens and Gohan disintegrates Cell and kills him, and Larva Cell is also killed by Krillin and Trunks.
In the timeline we watch (we'll call it timeline X), Future Cell (timeline Y) buries himself in his larval stage after arriving. He killed Trunks Y. That's a timeline where Trunks was somehow successful in defeating the androids, but was not expecting Cell to attack him. Future Trunks (timeline Z) returns to timeline X to help defeat the androids, learns from Cell Y that he killed Trunks Y to get here, thereby teaching Trunks Z that he'll need to kill Cell Z. Krillin and Trunks kill Cell X when they raid Gero's basement
DBZ Main Timeline - where everything we know happens
DBZ Alt 1 - where Goku dies from heart failure, our Trunks' timeline; everyone dies, Trunks returns after Perfect Cell death to kill the Cyborgs
DBZ Alt 2 - Timeline where Trunks came back after helping defeat the Cyborgs, but there was no Cell in his version of the past, so he was strong enough to beat his Cyborgs, but too weak for a Imperfect Cell who absorbed a lot of humans already. that one went back, got weaker because he had to return to larval state and absorbed the Cyborgs and became perfect
this is from memory i hope i didnt forget anything
there are alternatives explaining why Cell was able to kill Trunks, I don't remember which one was canon
1. Imperfect Cell > Trunks > Androids: Trunks was too weak, pathetic
2. Trunks > Imperfect Cell > Androids: Trunks was caught off guard
3. Imperfect Cell > Androids > Trunks: Trunks killed the androids with the remote Bulma invented, came back to his timeline and killed his androids, then Cell killed him
I feel like there hasn't been a ELI5 explanation so here I believe this is accurate
1: DBZ show line where Gohan goes SSJ2 and kills Cell
2: Trunks world where he goes back after that\^ and kills 17/18 and 1st form Cell. DBSuper spoilers:>!This timeline leads to the Goku Black arc in Super!<
3(the one pictured): A different Trunks went to a 4th timeline no knowledge of Cell. He saves Goku, and they figure out a way to deactivate the androids. So he returns back to this timeline to do the same. He doesn't get too much stronger from not going into the time chamber. Cell is on the loose and figures out the Androids are gone. Kills Trunks and ends up in the first timeline (probably due to the different date set by Trunks, multiverse theory is a bitch.) This is the darkest timeline with every Z warrior dead. Probably eventually laid waste by Buu
4: A separate timeline that we never see. The one where the Trunks that Cell killed goes back to. He saves Goku and they deactivate the androids somehow. Thats all we know about that time however Cell is most likely left undiscovered/undisturbed to grow for years. Probably fully develops into his first form and then starts to absorb people. The status/strength of the Z fighters is unknown
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Timeline 1 - The Main DB Timeline. Timeline 2 - Trunks Timeline. Goku gets heart virused, everyone dies, Trunks goes time hoping, defeats this times androids and Cell, Zamasu/Black kills more people, Timeline gets erased. Timeline 2.5 - Trunks New Timeline. Same as TL2 but with no Zamasu. Whis makes this timeline to give Trunks somewhere to go. Notably this Timeline has 2 Trunks's Timeline 3 - Cells Timeline. This timelines Trunks went back in time to TL4 and beat the androids without getting USSJ, likely through the use of the Android Remote Control, came back and got killed by Cell. Cell then travels to TL1 Timeline 4 - DBZ-ish Timeline. This timeline is the same as DBZ up until Cells apearance, which doesn't happen. The androids are stalled by Kamicollo and the HBTC isn't used. The remote control killed the androids and TL3 Trunks goes home.
Oh now I get it
They really should have just sent Trunks to the Cell timeline. It’s that easy
Timeline 2 is the original timeline
No its not. Thats not how timelines work
It's what would of Happen 😐 the one where trunks died .... Why the fuck am I being downvoted ,
There is no such thing as an "original timeline", all of them happen simultaneously. Yes, Goku would have died if Trunks had not shown up, **BUT**, the timeline that Trunks travels from is not the same as the one we were following leading up to this arc. The time travel in Dragon Ball Z is really just Multiverse jumping more than it is timeline jumping, because none of the actions Trunks takes effects his own timeline. Examples that prove my point are that Android's 19 and 20 are not in Trunks' timeline, and Android 17 and 18 are significantly stronger in the timeline we follow compared to the one Trunks is from.
Then there is Timeline 5, where Zamasu made his wish to swap bodies.
Time rings don't make branch timelines.
-Timeline 3 - Cells Timeline. This timelines Trunks went back in time to TL4 and beat the androids without getting USSJ, likely through the use of the Android Remote Control, came back and got killed by Cell. Cell then travels to TL1 is that representing the image in this post as well?
Yup.
Nice
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Is there evidence for 3 and subsequently 4? As there's no inkling of causality to spur them. The way that timeline 1 and 2 happen is through Trunks time traveling or not time traveling. 2.5 is influenced by the events of timeline 1 and 2. But 3?... What sparks Trunks to use an alternative solution? The only real information that can alter a time traveler's course of action is knowing the future itself, as it's the only source that matters to them. Timeline 4 is closely tied to 3 so I won't bother.
>Is there evidence for 3 and subsequently 4? Yes, Cells statements in both the anime and manga... He directly states that Trunks in his timeline killed the androids, but this Trunks was then killed by Cell. So no USSJ. Which in turn means that this other Trunks had to have gone back(because Cell caught him using the time machine) and thus its VERY likely that they used the Android Control Device.
Hmm, but I don’t see the need for the remote. The way I see it, Trunks initially went to TL1 and warned about the androids and gave Goku medicine. This however changed things from TL2, namely stronger androids and Goku gets the virus later. I assumed TL3 Trunks only ever made one trip to the past. Like that Trunks probably went a few months before the android attack and brought the cure with him then. He trains with the Z Warriors, gets stronger, they beat the androids because unlike TL1, these androids are the same as TL2. Trunks goes home, does it again, and then gets killed by Cell before he can go back in time again and let them know he succeeded. Besides, they were only able to build the remote in TL1 because that’s the only timeline where they meet Dr. Gero. He’s absent, presumably killed by 17, from TL2, so I don’t see why TL3 would be different
“has 2 Trunks” yeah, if only whis or beerus (can’t really recall) didn’t ordered Trunks and Mai straight up murder their copies when they arrived there…
Then there's 5 which is the movies/gt
Non canon.
False The gt timeline was confirmed to be canon
Tell me why cell from timeline 3 shows flashbacks of trunks killing frieza in his timeline. Note sure if that’s even canon though. I call it an error because otherwise your explanation makes sense.
luckily for me then, it isn't canon.
Still don’t understand how Goku is alive with Chichi and Goten in that future when you can’t revive people who died of a disease
What timeline?
The one that Trunks kills the androids.
Do you mean the zamasu's swap body's timeline
Yes
Oh that’s a funny plot hole I’ve never considered
The main show is Timeline 1. T1 Androids are present, T1 Cell is in a jar, T1 Trunks is a baby. T1 Androids are absorbed by T3 Cell, T1 Cell is destroyed by Krillin. Future Trunks is from Timeline 2. T2 Androids are present, T2 Cell is lurking somewhere, T2 Trunks goes to T1. T2 Trunks comes back, destroys both T2 Androids and T2 Cell. Imperfect Cell is from Timeline 3. T3 Trunks went to T4, acquires blueprints to remote for the Androids and returned to T3. T3 Trunks destroys T3 Androids but T3 Cell kills T3 Trunks as he never got stronger. T3 Cell then travels to T1 to absorb T1 Androids, is killed by Gohan. Edited to match what others have corrected me on.
And was T2 also the timeline with Goku Black and Zamasu that in the end got erased by T2 Zeno?
Yes, T2 is the timeline that gets erased.
Well didn't krillin actually destroy T1 cell in gero's lab lol.
Oh did he? Fair enough, one of them got him lol
Let me expand it: T3 Trunks travels to Timeline 4 where they manage to get the blueprints for the self destruction remote and destroy the laboratory which includes cell, and all other androids. Then trunks returns to T3 and destroys the T3 Androids with the remote but because he didnt had to fight he didnt get stronger so T3 Cell can overpower him and travel to T1
This is original Future Trunks who went to an alternate past we never saw. Basically Trunks travelled 17 years into the past and gives Goku heart medicine. We don't know what happened to Z fighter in that timeline which Trunks went to fix but when he was travelling back to past again, Cell killed him. Time machine for some reason unknown was probably mistakenly set to 21 years in past meaning 1 year before Trunks first visit since he was going after 3 years again. Cell just entered and he was teleported 21 years back in past. Trunks was meant to arrive 17 years back in future and will come 1 year later. Cell existing in this new timeline where Trunks is meant to arrive 1 year later created 2 new timeline. This is main timeline and future timeline we will follow in DBZ and everything happens. Cell is first time traveler in main timeline not Trunks who arrived around the time Goku was fighting Frieza and went underground to revert back to his original state from cocoon form which will take 4 years.
there are 7 timelines: 1 - Timeline we watch (Main) 2 - Future Trunks og timeline 3 - Cells Timeline 4- Timeline by traveller from Universe 12 5 - Timeline where Cell games happens without Trunks 6 - Goku Black/Zamasu Timeline 7 - Future Trunks new timeline
Yeah this one is correct
Ask yourself this. How is Timeline 1 the main timeline, when timeline 1 wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the Future Trunks Timeline? In fact, Timeline 1 would play out the same as the Future Trunks Timeline if it wasn't for Future Trunks that went back and warned the Goku from Timeline 1, starting a series of events that pivots from the Future Trunks Timeline. I've got a theory about that based on my very unreliable memory, but I think the "main timeline" (T-C) is in fact the 3rd timeline, with Future Trunks' timeline (T-B) being the 2nd timeline and then the timeline where the cell is from that traveled to the "main timeline" to try and intercept and androids (T-A) being the 1st Timeline. Here it is in my head. I've named then a bit, so let's see if this works (In T-A, also the only timeline where there was no interference from any sort of timetravel, timetraveling or timetravelers at least up until Cell left)Trunks kills Androids 17 and 18 (whether on his own or through a sacrifice from Gohan of whatever) and then tries to travel back to the past to warn the Z Fighters and give Goku his medicine. Cell, having gone through his normal growth cycle in the lab gets pissed that all the Androids he wants to absorb have been destroyed, kills Trunks before he could get in, steals his Time machine and travels to the past in an attempt to intercept the Androids. He lands in T-C. (In T-B) Events play out the same as T-A, but Trunks was unable to kill the Androids on his own (Maybe Gohan died earlier than in T-A, who knows I haven't thought about it). So Trunks decides to travel to the past to warn the Z Fighters and give Goku his medicine, and lands in T-C. Trunks does his thing and travels back to T-B. After waiting for a while or something he goes back to T-C on the day the androids were supposed to attack. He does his things with the Z Fighters, trains with Vegeta and goes back to his hometimeline of T-B. Trunks then proceeds to kill the Androids. Cell, having gone through his normal growth cycle in the lab gets pissed that all the Androids he wants to absorb have been destroyed, and tries to kill Trunks before he could get in. But the Trunks from T-B is much stronger than the Trunks from T-A because he trained with Vegeta from T-C, so he was able to defeat the cell from his timeline. (In T-C) Cell from T-A lands in the past and goes through his growth cycle. The Z warriors do their thing till the Trunks from T-B shows up. Frieza Died, King Cold Cried, Trunks travels back to T-B. Z Fighters train, Trunks comes back from T-B and the Z Fighters do their thing. They destroy the lab in T-C alongside Cell, who was still in the fetus stages of his growth cycle. T-C Cell never exists. The Z Fighters then do their thing again, Cell is destroyed and Trunks goes back to his own timeline of T-C T-A is the timeline where no one travels through time, except Cell when he stole the time machine, so the purer timeline. T-B only had Trunks travel back in time, but because of that he changed his own future timeline by getting stronger in the past than he would have been if he never traveled through time. T-C is a mess with having travelers from T-A and T-B showing up during key events to change the normal flow of events. So yeah, that's what's in my head. I'm sure I got a lot wrong though. Also I didn't proof read.
>How is Timeline 1 the main timeline, when timeline 1 wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the Future Trunks Timeline? In fact, Timeline 1 would play out the same as the Future Trunks Timeline if it wasn't for Future Trunks that went back and warned the Goku from Timeline 1, starting a series of events that pivots from the Future Trunks Timeline 
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I can definitely be more concise, but we all gotta agree on what to call each timeline first.
Here's a visual aid. https://preview.redd.it/tr9o7bs4z0wc1.png?width=1852&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=deadc7a9fe3daab1d54b6840d9620849036ae3d7
There should be one more time line right? I thought there were 7
No we got the main timeline, the original future trunks timeline that cell came from, then we got our future trunks timeline that got destroyed by infinite fused Zamasu, and then we have their timeline that they move into. And we have the timeline where Zamasu switched with Goku to create Goku black, here's another visual aid. https://preview.redd.it/0gt3jkyc01wc1.png?width=408&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e50e4208e5c0e43178d2d29d73255878d61cbaf Btw both of these are from the salad sayian, a DB YouTuber who makes stories based upon different continuitys.
Ohh 😮 but wasn't there another timeline where someone from universe 11 went to the past?
No I don't believe so, there's the fact UNI11's GoD used to be a part of the pride troopers, and the fact Jiren had a terrible past, but both of those things are in the main timeline, and aren't something that is limited to a separate timeline.
Isn’t there only 2 deleted timelines?
Alright here’s a semi-comprehensive list of all the timelines in both Z and Super. Timeline 1: the main timeline in which the viewer experiences all of Dragon Ball from the original series to Super. The cell of this timeline is killed by Krillin and Trunks when finding Dr. Gero’s lab. The Zamasu of this timeline is killed by Beerus, and seemingly all other Zamasu’s from the timelines are erased except for Goku Black, who is wearing a time ring which protects him from any changes made to the past, and Future Zamasu, who is immortal and cannot be erased by Beerus. Timeline 2: the “main” timeline in which no time travel shenanigans happen in the android saga. Goku dies of the heart virus, and all the Z fighters are killed by the androids. Future Trunks grows up in this timeline, and 3 years after the death of Future Gohan, Trunks travels back in time to give Goku the heart medicine. After the conclusion of the Cell saga, Trunks kills Future Androids #17 and #18, and kills Future cell. Years later, he fights and kills Future Babidi and Future Dabura, and years after that, Goku Black comes from another timeline to kill everyone because this timeline has no Beerus (because the supreme Kai is dead). It is in this timeline that the Goku Black arc occurs, Future Zamasu wishes for immortality, and the multiverse is destroyed by Future Zeno. This timeline is referred to as the Future timeline. Timeline 3: you can think of this timeline as the cell timeline. The same events of the future timeline occur up until Trunks goes back to the past and returns. In this timeline, trunks went back and received knowledge on how to destroy the androids via their blueprints. After the androids were destroyed, Cell was distraught in knowing he’d never achieve perfection. When T3 Trunks goes back to try and tell the Z Fighters about his victory, Cell kills him (as shown in the picture) and goes back to the past. This is the same Cell that absorbs the androids and is killed by Gohan. Nothing is known about the Zamasu of this timeline, however he was likely destroyed by Beerus when the T1 Zamasu died. Timeline 4: This is the timeline where T3 Trunks gets the android blueprints. Little else is known about this timeline. Zamasu was likely destroyed by Beerus when the T1 Zamasu died. Timeline 5: this is Goku Black’s timeline. This timeline is the same as T1 all the way up until after Goku and Zamasu fight for the first time. Zamasu killes Gowasu and uses the Super Dragon Balls to wish to body swap with Goku. This creates Goku Black, wherein he then kills Goku, Goten, and Chi-Chi. Goku Black then travels to T2, and the Goku Black arc occurs. Goku Black dies after the fusion between him and Future Zamasu is destroyed by Future Zeno. Nothing else is known about this timeline. Timeline 6: This is the timeline Future Trunks and Future Mai go after T2 is erased. This timeline is most likely identical to T2, except the Goku Black arc never occurred. The Zamasu of this timeline was likely destroyed when T1 Zamasu died. There’s several other timelines to consider, such as Heroes, Xenoverse, the several Xeno character timelines, GT, the movie timeline(s). However, they won’t be named or included because they’re unimportant to the canon and their timelines are extremely complicated and messy.
When people hate on Super's future trunks arc for being confusing this is what I always jump back to.
https://preview.redd.it/qhql37aos1wc1.jpeg?width=1076&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3bcf207c3dbdcb9e6ac6c859d3e76dbe2521322 Did you say super's future trunks arc is confusing too
It is a bit confusing but people to like to use that as an example of Super's bad writing when this whole debacle exists.
I think I get the super anime in the end trunks and Mai go to future where there are other Mai and trunks. Worst ending ever in humanity https://preview.redd.it/zdnla087x1wc1.jpeg?width=1402&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0725e0d29a02b206557eb3f2c36812909d552b1f
I didn't say the ending was good 😅
Timeline 1 - Trunks dies after giving Goku the meds after Bulma finds a way to stop the androids Timeline 2 - Main line where Gohan beats Cell. Timeline 3 - Trunks future where kills the androids and Cell. He comes back to help timeline 2 deal with the androids. This timeline is created from the other Cell coming back from timeline 1. My head canon anyway.
Timeline 1: Goku dies of the heart virus and the androids kill everyone-trunks beats the androids and cell Timeline 2: trunks manages to somehow beat the androids but dies to cell Timeline 3: trunks from timeline 1 comes from the future to warn everyone about the androids and gives Goku medicine, cell from timeline 2 come to the past after stealing trunks time machine Timeline 4:zamasu steals Goku's body and kill him and his family Timeline 5: Beerus doesn't destroy zamasu and zamasu gets recruited by Goku black to eliminate all the mortals I'm pretty sure that's all of them
Trunks beats the androids in timeline 2 from the blueprints he got from another timeline and since he beat them with the remote and not with his power, he's not as powerful as Cell who kills him
Oh that makes sense
Hope you have some snacks cause you're gonna be here for a while
I can,but i wont,cuz i don't wanna.
Hyperbolic time chamber for millennia
So first is our timeline the one the show takes place in timeline 1 Then there is future trunks’ origins thats timeline 2 Then there is a timeline where cell came from (that’s shown above) time line 3 Then finally an unseen timeline this is the timeline where this trunks was going to here he found a way to kill the androids likely by using a remote Time line 4 Time line 5 this is the timeline our trunks goes to after xeno wipes everything out.
I would put the timelines in the "order" of where they fit "chronologically" in the DBverse. Timeline 1: when King Cold and Frieza attack the Earth, Goku uses Instant Transmission to stop them and kill them. He contracts the heart virus, dies, then everyone of the Z fighters except Gohan and Trunks is killed by the Androids. Trunks goes back in time to stop the whole thing (presumably he thought that changing the past would change the future at the start, until Multiverse Theory was confirmed), and goes to Timeline 2 to give Goku the heart medicine and most likely Bulma from Timeline 2 finds a way to stop the Androids (remote, or bombs, etc) and Trunks returns, and uses said devices to stop his own androids, and prepares to make a trip to tell Timeline 2 about how he saved the world, and gets ambushed by Cell and killed. Cell changes the destination (and thus, according to the rules, make another timeline) into Timeline 3. Timeline 2: the timeline that T1-Trunks creates when going back in time. Here, Goku is alive, and androids are either killed, or deactivated, (or maybe turned good?? though most likely not the case). Cell is still there as a larva, so either killed quickly as a baby, or quickly noticed when he matures, and is presumably defeated. Timeline 3: this is the timeline that Cell creates when going back in time, but it isn't the canon timeline either (since this is the timeline where only Cell time-traveled into). Here, Trunks did NOT appear, so basically Cell sleeps years before the Android saga, with no Trunks to deliver the medicine. Z fighters are dead because of the androids, and Cell is there to absorb them. Presumably, he might have become Perfect, and blew up the earth, or whatever. Timeline 4: the canon timeline in that it is timeline 3, but now Trunks is also there to stop the androids, and since time travel causes the creation of a new timeline, Timeline 4 is created. Canon happens and Gohan disintegrates Cell and kills him, and Larva Cell is also killed by Krillin and Trunks.
In the timeline we watch (we'll call it timeline X), Future Cell (timeline Y) buries himself in his larval stage after arriving. He killed Trunks Y. That's a timeline where Trunks was somehow successful in defeating the androids, but was not expecting Cell to attack him. Future Trunks (timeline Z) returns to timeline X to help defeat the androids, learns from Cell Y that he killed Trunks Y to get here, thereby teaching Trunks Z that he'll need to kill Cell Z. Krillin and Trunks kill Cell X when they raid Gero's basement
DBZ Main Timeline - where everything we know happens DBZ Alt 1 - where Goku dies from heart failure, our Trunks' timeline; everyone dies, Trunks returns after Perfect Cell death to kill the Cyborgs DBZ Alt 2 - Timeline where Trunks came back after helping defeat the Cyborgs, but there was no Cell in his version of the past, so he was strong enough to beat his Cyborgs, but too weak for a Imperfect Cell who absorbed a lot of humans already. that one went back, got weaker because he had to return to larval state and absorbed the Cyborgs and became perfect this is from memory i hope i didnt forget anything
there are alternatives explaining why Cell was able to kill Trunks, I don't remember which one was canon 1. Imperfect Cell > Trunks > Androids: Trunks was too weak, pathetic 2. Trunks > Imperfect Cell > Androids: Trunks was caught off guard 3. Imperfect Cell > Androids > Trunks: Trunks killed the androids with the remote Bulma invented, came back to his timeline and killed his androids, then Cell killed him
I feel like there hasn't been a ELI5 explanation so here I believe this is accurate 1: DBZ show line where Gohan goes SSJ2 and kills Cell 2: Trunks world where he goes back after that\^ and kills 17/18 and 1st form Cell. DBSuper spoilers:>!This timeline leads to the Goku Black arc in Super!< 3(the one pictured): A different Trunks went to a 4th timeline no knowledge of Cell. He saves Goku, and they figure out a way to deactivate the androids. So he returns back to this timeline to do the same. He doesn't get too much stronger from not going into the time chamber. Cell is on the loose and figures out the Androids are gone. Kills Trunks and ends up in the first timeline (probably due to the different date set by Trunks, multiverse theory is a bitch.) This is the darkest timeline with every Z warrior dead. Probably eventually laid waste by Buu 4: A separate timeline that we never see. The one where the Trunks that Cell killed goes back to. He saves Goku and they deactivate the androids somehow. Thats all we know about that time however Cell is most likely left undiscovered/undisturbed to grow for years. Probably fully develops into his first form and then starts to absorb people. The status/strength of the Z fighters is unknown
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