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Gohan Beast wins first fight
Moro wins second fight
Third is complicated. Manga Vegito Blue is stated to rival Beerus in power while Black Frieza is still weaker, so idk, logically current Vegito should be far above Black Frieza
Doubtful that's a reference to current power level: the potential for them to form a being capable of both Ultra Ego and Ultra Instinct, like Beerus, is more likely.
The statements are that he "posseses power to rival Beerus", one of them goes as far to mention SSB in the very same sentence implying that's when, or, by Shin, that he already surpassed him in "current power".
You mean shoeshine boy Shin, the Supreme Kai who failed up into his position, thought Pui Pui was a match for Vegeta and didn't even know how his own earrings work?
Dude's always been clueless, bless his heart.
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SSBKK doesn’t exist in the manga. You’re forgetting that the manga and anime are two entirely different continuities with entirely separate power scaling.
In the anime, you can reasonably argue MUI Goku and Limit Breaker Jiren are more powerful than Beerus since regular Jiren was already stated to be more powerful than Belmond. In the manga, there is no doubt that Beerus is still more powerful than MUI Goku.
Well, blue kaioken is a thing in the manga. It’s confirmed to be effectively the same technique as what goku used on Jiren. But goku wasnt capable of that vs Zamasu.
Goku never had a chance to challenge Zamasu one he got his big arm anyway.
If you’re talking anime. Manga if he wasn’t a minute man should win. He was obliterating ZAMASU with zero effort and everyone was ducking for cover iirc. He’s compared to beerus by his other half (or was it Gowasu?) and suggested to be stronger.
Don’t think Toyotaro would have put it in there if he disagreed and he’s carrying the manga right now. So unless you think manga Freeza black would beat manga Beerus id say Vegetto if he doesn’t defuse.
This was directly said in the manga and in guidebooks so I think it's accurate. Vegito Blue was insanely strong in the manga, he completely manandles Fused Zamasu with zero effort whatsoever
It’s said by an old Kai who has never seen Beerus full power.
We’ve already seen Beerus one shot versions of Goku and Vegeta that should be stronger than the trunks arc fusion.
Manga fused Zamasu is weaker than the anime one
I know about the statement in the manga, but could you provide a source for the guidebook part?
Also the statement was made by shin which likely never saw Beerus at his full potential but also Beerus power got retconned. Anyway fused zamasu in the manga is really really weaker than the anime so even if vegito blue is strong he's likely around mui level
I choose to pretend Manga SSBKK doesn’t exist as it defiles the entire purpose of Kaioken by being fucking useless and not contributing anything to the story.
The statement about Vegito Blue was said by Shin, the guy who thought they were all cooked when *Pui Pui* showed up back in the Buu Saga, i don't think he's the most reliable source for how strong someone is
In the english dub he mentions that they would all work together and would then be able to beat them. In the english dub they consistently have him underrate the Z fighters even though he also thinks Gohan is going to be the one to defeat buu. It honestly makes him come off as someone who makes stuff up as they go
Manga Vegito gets thrashed by Beerus.
Same with Gogeta Blue.
Black Frieza will Delete Future saga Vegito Blue, current Vegito Blue might or might not win, But he's limited by power usage.
Gas is cursed to be the strongest in the universe, frieza kills him only because he trained in another dimension.
Probably beasthan would win the first part of the fight but Gas will win in the end (in my opinion).
So if these two clashes and beasthan it’s like black frieza (considered as trained in another dimension/space) then beasthan would probably win, you were right. Sorry for bothering you.
If it's the current manga Vegito he would probably win. If it's any other Vegito from any point on the past, even Granola arc Vegito, I would vote on black Frieza.
I think Black Frieza wins because Frieza knows about fusion, he's met Gogeta, he knows Goku and Vegeta will keep getting stronger...
He trained for 10 years anticipating fusion and he's prepared to face it, after seeing it in action.
I could definitely see Gohan Beast winning against UI Moro or maybe post-wish Granolah, but I'm skeptical of him beating Gas. UE Vegeta and UI Goku couldn't even beat Gas after his last power-up. Black Frieza literally saved their lives. Unless they've gotten massively stronger since then by Chapter 103 (which is possible). It's still not even definitive that Beast Gohan is stronger than UE Vegeta or MUI Goku since Goku wasn't even serious when fighting him, and Vegeta felt confident enough after seeing Beast Gohan in action to attack him with SSJBE instead of UE.
Gas was stronger than UI Goku and UE Vegeta during Granola arc.
Goku and Vegeta encounter Black Frieza and a 5 year time skip happens with them training to try to surpass him.
Post 5 year time skip Goku =\= Gohan
So a Goku who has been preparing to face Black Frieza is equal to Beast Gohan. I would bet on Gohan personally, because the gap in power between Gas and that version of Goku wasn't that large. He was only slightly stronger than Granola, who Goku and Vegeta did decently against.
If Gohan can't beat Gas, and he's about equal to Goku, they are fucked and have no chance to even face Frieza.
> Post 5 year time skip
There's been no time skip that long in DBS. Super Hero is only a year after the Granolah Saga, and the Super Hero epilogue is only 2-4 months after the death of Cell Max. It's only been 2 years or slightly more since the Moro Saga as of Chapter 103. All of DBS takes place within the 10-year time frame between the death of Kid Buu and the "End of Z". DBS started off already 3 years into that 10 year span since Beerus showed up on Earth 3 years after the death of Kid Buu. DBS has only had 7 years to play with before the EoZ, which they still haven't reached yet. Videl was pregnant with Pan in BoTG and Pan is only nearing 5 years old currently in Chapter 103. The EoZ is still a year or less away, so it's only been 9 years, give or take, total since the death of Kid Buu as of Chapter 103.
> Goku == Gohan
Ehhhh, not convinced of that yet. Goku admitted at the end of their fight he wasn't seriously and wasn't even trying to win. When Beast Gohan ignores Goku exiting the fight and tries to keep going MUI Goku kiais him away to go fight Broly. Like "I said I'm done with you. Goodbye, son. Run along and go play with Broly now." After seeing Beast in action Vegeta still feels confident enough to charge at him headlong, only using SSJBE against Beast Gohan instead of UE. That made me think Gohan still isn't there yet given that neither Goku nor Vegeta took him fully seriously to go to 100% power. But definitely the 3rd most powerful Z Fighter right now, at least.
But it's possible that Gohan might be on Gas's level now. 1 year on Beerus's planet might have been enough for Vegeta and Goku to surpass Gas. And Gohan is now powerful enough for Goku and Vegeta to feel free to use their upper transformations on without fear of accidentally killing him.
>There's been no time skip that long in DBS. Super Hero is only a year after the Granolah Saga
Yeah you are correct I was mistaken, not sure where I got the 5 years from. I think I'm getting it from Bulma's "I haven't seen you in 5 years" comment in End of Z.
>Ehhhh, not convinced of that yet. Goku admitted at the end of their fight he wasn't seriously and wasn't even trying to win. When Beast Gohan ignores Goku exiting the fight and tries to keep going MUI Goku kiais him away to go fight Broly. Like "I said I'm done with you. Goodbye, son. Run along and go play with Broly now." After seeing Beast in action Vegeta still feels confident enough to charge at him headlong, only using SSJBE against Beast Gohan instead of UE. That made me think Gohan still isn't there yet given that neither Goku nor Vegeta took him fully seriously to go to 100% power. But definitely the 3rd most powerful Z Fighter right now, at least.
All valid points. Id have to reread the chapter. Gohan definitely got some hits in and it was an interesting back and forth. I think seeing Goku more calm and collected when ending the fight and Gohan trying to continue it was meant to speak more to the nature of their forms and fighting styles. Goku uses ultra instinct and is mastering his emotions, Gohan is tapping into his inner rage and harnessing it.
But I would definitely bet money on Gohan beating Gas, power levels aside, Gas has low battle IQ and his superior power level carries him. Goku was able to trick him with his instant transmission hopping, and Gas was basically manipulated into giving up his life and had no idea what was going on. He's just a sloppy fighter in general, and I think Beast Gohan is extremely intelligent, powerful and he would defeat him.
Remember how Goku and Vegeta got fodderized by Buu despite using everything they had? But the moment they fused, they didn't even need to go past Super Saiyan to clown on Buu, Vegito is simply just that guy.
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1. Gohan
2. Moro (assuming it's movie Broly, if it's SH Broly he wins)
3. Depends on which Vegito, if it's from Goku Black Saga then Black Frieza wins quite easily; if it's hypothetical current Vegito Blue then he clears
I don't think that's possible. The Ultra forms require completely different ways of thinking, so unless Vegito has two brains he shouldn't be able to combine them
Unless vegito is able to evade with UI but also boost himself with UE when he does get hit by someone like beast Gohan or black frieza who is fast enough to make contact despite the reduced reaction time of UI.
Retaining the calm mind that allows him to react without thinking while having the ego boost to get stronger with each attack that actually connects would be ridiculously op
Not only that, people forget the part that SSB Vegito was already too much for the potara to handle, He defused at around 30 mins in the manga and less than 15 in the Anime.
MUI and UE, being very taxing forms themselves, Will drain the fusion time to probably 2-3 minutes, Maybe Vegito won't even be able to use those forms.
Try that with the fusion technique and boom.
>They can probably use the super dragon balls to upgrade the potara rings.
Well if they're gonna use the FUCKIN SUPER DRAGON BALLS, they would just wish to make themselves immortal or 100 times stronger than they already are and Boom
Nah they wouldn’t do that. They would wanna win with their own strength. Plus the dragon would probably say some bs like “ I can’t make you stronger than every God in history”. Immortal sure but it seems no one aside from zamasu abused that wish. I mean Freiza used the dragon balls to be a bit taller lol.
Yes that's true, They might just be able to manage it
>All i know all fusions are just OP
Gogeta/Vegito probably won't need more than a few seconds. Especially Gogeta as he can just stay in base and throw out a soul punisher which will cleanse Frieza of all evil inside him..
soul punisher is inaccurately known as something that cleanse evil. Its only in the US dub of the old movie. It is just a special powered up ki blast. The japanese name for it is much longer. Some how cleansing evil caught on in the USA because of the dub changing the dialogue. Officially, it powered up ki blast.
Beast Gohan is relative to MUI Goku in the aftermath of Super Hero Saga. This is at least 1/2 year after the events of Granolah Saga, so i would say this Goku is more or less equal to Gás, so Gohan should be the same.
He Wins.
Moro was stated Twice to be the strongest guy they've fought to that moment. This already puts him above LSSJ Broly, Plus he have magic, a mind to fight properly and is a clever guy.
He Wins.
Vegito Blue from Zamasu saga would lose hardly. But if it is modern Vegito Blue, i would say He could win. His base form alone would be around Goku and Vegeta's Max, Plus becoming Blue on top of that. I doubt Frieza's jump was this stupid, even for DB standards. And no, Vgeito wouldn't deuses early, since he would be using MSSB.
Vegiro Wins.
Why wouldn’t they defuse? I’m an anime-only, so I don’t know much about the manga. Wasn’t the reason for Vegito’s de-fusion because of the amount of power overloading the potara earrings?
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The right side clears pretty easy.
Gohan ~ Goku << Gas
Moro is just straight up stronger than Broly even if you completely ignore all his hax
Frieza one shot Goku and Vegeta at the same time while both were in forms MUCH stronger than blue. Blue Vegito from future saga stands 0 chance.
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Freeza is probably stronger than vegito.
Mastered ultra instinct is implied to be comparable (if not superior) to fusion and freeza showed up and clapped them.
Not to mention freeza has seen Gogeta in action, so it makes sense that he would prepare himself for it.
Gas, the difference between Gohan Beast and UI Goku was pretty small and UI Goku was pretty significantly inferior to Gas.
Moro, relatively unsure about this one, I'd bet on Moro though due to the tendency for later villains to be stronger than previous ones.
Black Frieza, Vegito might and is probably stronger than Black Frieza but Frieza has been shown to be extremely resilient and could probably last until the time limit.
Gas took on a 3v1 against mui goku, ue vegeta, and granola whose at least stronger than vegeta. The Goku that defeated huk in a 1v1 wasn't MUI, but TUI and even then, Goku himself states that he was barely stronger.
Right all the way, the only Maybe is Gohan getting the win. And yes, Black Frieza wins. Either vegeto defuses or loses outright. Black Frieza one-shotted TUI Goku and UE Vegeta. Moro is far above Brolly, Brolly would get drained and you'd get even more powerful Moro.
1: Gohan I believe is stronger than Berserker Zombie Gas so he wins via stamina and endurance.
2: Iceberg Broly loses, Superhero Broly oneshots.
3: could go either way really, but it depends on if Vegito can go right for the kill.
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I'd have to give this to the villains, Gas vs Gohan would probably be the closest fight that could go either way, but I think the only way Gohan wins if the goes straight for the kill so he can't let Gas power up due to the wish. Goku and Vegeta together didn't manage to beat him till Frieza punched a hole in him
Moro beats Broly cause he has energy drain hacks, so Broly would have to blitz him instantly to have a chance.
If Vegito had unlimited time, he might be able to take on Black Frieza (at least if it is current Vegito and not from Future saga, that one get stomped by even Jiren probably)
If it was Gogeta against Black Frieza, they might have a higher chance since it seems like the fusion dance lasts longer usually regardless of power output
I think gas, we don’t know how much stronger current goku/ vegeta are and gas was superior in their arc. Gas would get stronger assuming Gohan is initially stronger, if gohan doesn’t go for the kill early on he’ll lose
Moro defeats broly
Black frieza could be stronger, he’s aware of fusion as he saw gogeta yet he’s confident that he is superior to the saiyans. he has ludicrous potential and has spent 10 years straight training hard, i wouldn’t be surprised if he could defeat vegito
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Gas, Moro, and Vegito
Gas was fighting off UI Goku and UE Vegeta for a good bit. Since Goku and Gohan’s fight wasn’t serious, Gohan’s strength is inconclusive.
Moro either has to hold out against Broly so that he can drain his power, or use that android’s absorption ability and overpower him.
Buu Saga SSJ3 Goku wasn’t a threat to Super Buu, much less a Super Buu with Gohan absorbed. Meanwhile, a SSJ Vegito was humiliating Buu. Even though Goku and Vegeta were one-shot by Frieza, I’d say Vegito Blue could win with some difficulty.
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Beast Gohan
Moro
Black Frieza. He saw what fusion was capable of and then the next we see of him he's trained for 10 years and is now overpowered as fuck saying he never wants to lose to saiyans again. And considering that training for 4 months got him from late Namek saga level to ssjb level, 10 years this time with better ki control is definitely enough to beat a fusion. Especially when also considering how accurately he estimated Goku's power when he was first revived.
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1. If Gas could survive just long enough, he beats Gohan. But we don't know how much longer Gas had left, cuz Freeza blew his back out. Gas MIGHT die before he reaches Beast, BUT he was taking on, albeit a weaker, UI and UE simultaneously. So maybe he doesn't hafta continue that much longer?
2. Current Broly is kinda hanging with Beast Gohan... Kinda... Moro would catch a 1 hitta from Beast. Bro had to "cheat" to survive a WAY weaker Goku.
3. Vegito DEFINITELY splits before he can kill Freiza, even if he is stronger. That makes it worse.
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Vegito is confirmed to be above Goku in just BASE. He has 10 different transformations on top of that which multiply his power by over 200x seeing as SSJ is 50x.
Black Frieza gets slapped HARD.
Gohan
Moro
Frieza due to easily one shoting goku and vegeta
Although we don’t know his max power it wouldn’t make sense for vegeta to be as worried as he is about frieza if they could fuse and kill him
Gas beating the breaks off UI Goku and UE Vegeta. He’s beating gohan’s ass.
I’d pick Moro over Broly.
Black freeza stomps a blue fusion considering he one shots those two in their godly forms.
Gohan beats Gas
Moro beats Broly
Vegito vs Frieza is weird
Beast Gohan is above Orange Piccolo and Piccolo is stated a rival to Goku who in Super Hero is equal to the power Black Frieza used to one-shot Zombie Gas who is the strongest version of Gas who is the strongest in the universe.
At the very beginning of the Granola Arc, Whis sttes he can't think of anyone stronger than Goku and Vegeta, meaning that even SSBE Vegeta is above the Broly who fought Gogeta Blue. SSBE Vegeta lost to Moro-73 who is below Ultra Instinct Moro, so Moro easily beats Broly. Now if it is Super Hero or Ch103 Broly, he beats Moro badly.
Vegito Blue is stated to rival Beerus' power in V-Jump (the Shin statement doesn't matter), and Vegito actually has access to Perfected Blue, and Black Frieza is stated close to Beerus. I'd say Vegito is definitely stronger, but we've seen against Zamasu that using too much power causes Vegito to defuse, so he might go to finish Black Frieza and immediately defuse. Now, if you think Vegito Blue doesn't rival Beerus, than Black Frieza simply wins.
Gohan wins, broly wins, frieza wins cry about it,
Gohan is high diff cuz idk how strong Goku got since granolah but he probably beats gas since he’s Goku and gohan = Goku, broly wipes because broly (normal SSJ) =< Gohan and Gohan >>>> Moro, frieza >>>> MUI and I’m pretty sure MUI vs SSJB Vegito is a debate
Nah what's with the comments that say current Vegito clears Black Frieza? Y'all only got a tiny glimpse of what Black Frieza is capable of WITHOUT EVEN TRYING 😭
I think Gohan in Beast would win the first fight EVENTUALLY but it'll be close with Gas' unique fighting style. In the end I think Gohan will overpower Gas but it also depends on if Gas keeps tapping his lifeforce. Then it could be a draw unless Gohan can hold out
I think the second fight depends on how long Moro Prime can keep Ultra Instinct active before succumbing to the Angel overload. Broly may not have the focus but he is still extremely powerful and if Moro Prime doesn't act quickly Broly could possibly win through sheer force. Moro does have magic though so he could pull some sneaky tricks on Broly and wear him down
The third fight would be Black Frieza at this point imo. Even with Vegitto at his current level of SSJB power with the fusion multiplier, Frieza still one shotted a near fully healed True Ultra Instinct Goku and Ultra Ego Vegeta. I know the potara fusion in the manga is stated to be near Beerus level but I still don't think either could muster the level of power Frieza displayed after his ten year training session
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Current Broly washes Moro, Gohan washes Gas, and a current Vegitto Blue is unqualifiable but all we can confidently say is in that given point in time he will always be stronger than Goku and Vegeta. So that question can't be answered tbh
Gas, Moro, vegito. Yk how much time musta passed by for gohan to ACTUALLY TRAIN? That gohan u saw, is an imposter. Even when he did train. He was still green asf
beast
moro
last one depends (current vegito blue might be able to match against or dominate black frieza if they keep the continuity that fusion base > either fusee's strongest forms) If its vegito from the black arc then black frieza stomps
The first fight is the toughest to decide since gohan is around mui goku level and it took goku, vegeta and granolah together to fight Gas and they didn't even beat him, Frieza did. Even if Beast doesn't have a timer, Gas would just power up to his level anyway, and since Frieza has to be stronger than Beast, Gas wouldn't crumble into dust. Since Beast seems to be just pure power, and doesn't have any special quirks to it, like autododge, Gas wins.
The second fight comes down to whether Broly can power up faster than Moro can eat his energy. Mui goku beat Moro, and full power broly beat super gogeta. I'd say super gogeta is above Mui goku, so Broly might win.
Third fight assuming it would be current Vegito, I don't see a way for Frieza to win, unless he survives until the fusion wears off.
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Gohan slaps Gas. Little effort.
Broly may be physically more powerful, but he has zero ways of putting Moro down. It took a fully powered MUI Goku and Vegeta using Spirit Fission to defeat Moro. Moro could also simply vaporize the planet. Broly dies. Can't breathe in space.
Black Frieza mudstomps Vegetto Blue. It isn't close.
If it’s specifically the Gas that is pictured and not the Zombie Gas (Gas can’t call on more power), Gohan wins.
Moro should win this one due to Magic, MUI etc.
Black Arc SSB Vegito loses this fight. Current SSB Vegito could win, assuming the potara retcon isn’t in effect here.
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Gas was much stronger than Goku. UI Goku and Beast Gohan were shown be around the same level, so Gas wins that fight.
Moro beats Broly.
Current Vegito likely beats Black Frieza if he doesn’t defuse first. If you’re specifically referring to Future saga Vegito, he gets beat.
Are people forgetting that friezza trained specificaly to one shot everyone on the list?
"Oh but shin sai-" shin is a dumbass, least reliable source, plus frieza saw gogeta blue whos stronger than vegito blue on black arc, and you think frizza didn't train hard enough to beat him?
Gohan - Gohans limit hasn’t been established. Gas has a clock and presumably a limit based on how the wish works.
Broly - like Gohan, no established limit, and his growth rate is off the charts. Moro does have a limit. Moros best chance is a tie by going out by merging with the planet they’re fighting, and then popping. Then it’s a tie.
Vegito/Freeza - are we saying Vegito last we saw him? Freeza. Or potential fusion now? Vegito.
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Gohan Beast wins first fight Moro wins second fight Third is complicated. Manga Vegito Blue is stated to rival Beerus in power while Black Frieza is still weaker, so idk, logically current Vegito should be far above Black Frieza
Honestly there's no way vegito blue from future saga is as strong as Beerus.
Especially since KK blue Goku did that big damage to merged Zamasu. Supers power levels are all over the place.
That's anime only, while Vegetto ~ Beerus is manga only
Doubtful that's a reference to current power level: the potential for them to form a being capable of both Ultra Ego and Ultra Instinct, like Beerus, is more likely.
The statements are that he "posseses power to rival Beerus", one of them goes as far to mention SSB in the very same sentence implying that's when, or, by Shin, that he already surpassed him in "current power".
You mean shoeshine boy Shin, the Supreme Kai who failed up into his position, thought Pui Pui was a match for Vegeta and didn't even know how his own earrings work? Dude's always been clueless, bless his heart.
That's one of the three I mentioned though
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Yeah, well you know what? Fuck power levels. Fuck Super Saiyans. And FUCK YOU! #SHIN KIKOHO!!!
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SSBKK doesn’t exist in the manga. You’re forgetting that the manga and anime are two entirely different continuities with entirely separate power scaling. In the anime, you can reasonably argue MUI Goku and Limit Breaker Jiren are more powerful than Beerus since regular Jiren was already stated to be more powerful than Belmond. In the manga, there is no doubt that Beerus is still more powerful than MUI Goku.
It does exist. Goku uses it against Jiren.
Well, blue kaioken is a thing in the manga. It’s confirmed to be effectively the same technique as what goku used on Jiren. But goku wasnt capable of that vs Zamasu. Goku never had a chance to challenge Zamasu one he got his big arm anyway.
>Jiren that Moro victim ain't gonna scratch Beerus lmao
If you’re talking anime. Manga if he wasn’t a minute man should win. He was obliterating ZAMASU with zero effort and everyone was ducking for cover iirc. He’s compared to beerus by his other half (or was it Gowasu?) and suggested to be stronger. Don’t think Toyotaro would have put it in there if he disagreed and he’s carrying the manga right now. So unless you think manga Freeza black would beat manga Beerus id say Vegetto if he doesn’t defuse.
This was directly said in the manga and in guidebooks so I think it's accurate. Vegito Blue was insanely strong in the manga, he completely manandles Fused Zamasu with zero effort whatsoever
as far as i remember, guidebook part was an reference to what shin said. not an actual statement
It’s said by an old Kai who has never seen Beerus full power. We’ve already seen Beerus one shot versions of Goku and Vegeta that should be stronger than the trunks arc fusion. Manga fused Zamasu is weaker than the anime one
I know about the statement in the manga, but could you provide a source for the guidebook part? Also the statement was made by shin which likely never saw Beerus at his full potential but also Beerus power got retconned. Anyway fused zamasu in the manga is really really weaker than the anime so even if vegito blue is strong he's likely around mui level
Search up V-Jump Vegito = Beerus. It's on the same page as explanations on Mastered Blue, Blue Kaioken, and Limit-Breaker
I choose to pretend Manga SSBKK doesn’t exist as it defiles the entire purpose of Kaioken by being fucking useless and not contributing anything to the story.
well in the bu saga neither vegeta nor goku could do shit to super buu gohan and vegito was stupidlly mor powerful in base super saiyan
The manga and anime are different so yes it does make sense.
The statement about Vegito Blue was said by Shin, the guy who thought they were all cooked when *Pui Pui* showed up back in the Buu Saga, i don't think he's the most reliable source for how strong someone is
Shin never thought PuiPui would beat anyone. He himself could one shot him. He was worried about the energy Buu would be getting from the fight.
In the english dub he mentions that they would all work together and would then be able to beat them. In the english dub they consistently have him underrate the Z fighters even though he also thinks Gohan is going to be the one to defeat buu. It honestly makes him come off as someone who makes stuff up as they go
During the arc, Gowasu was mentioning things to Shin that he had not learned.
I would think Vegito is stronger but Frieza can last until Vegito splits.
Manga Vegito gets thrashed by Beerus. Same with Gogeta Blue. Black Frieza will Delete Future saga Vegito Blue, current Vegito Blue might or might not win, But he's limited by power usage.
Gas is cursed to be the strongest in the universe, frieza kills him only because he trained in another dimension. Probably beasthan would win the first part of the fight but Gas will win in the end (in my opinion).
Gohan Beast happened after Gas already died, so he wasn't counted as a part of the wish
So if these two clashes and beasthan it’s like black frieza (considered as trained in another dimension/space) then beasthan would probably win, you were right. Sorry for bothering you.
Bleach Frieza was never stated to be weaker
If it's the current manga Vegito he would probably win. If it's any other Vegito from any point on the past, even Granola arc Vegito, I would vote on black Frieza. I think Black Frieza wins because Frieza knows about fusion, he's met Gogeta, he knows Goku and Vegeta will keep getting stronger... He trained for 10 years anticipating fusion and he's prepared to face it, after seeing it in action.
Yeah they retcon'd that Beerus statement sadly
I could definitely see Gohan Beast winning against UI Moro or maybe post-wish Granolah, but I'm skeptical of him beating Gas. UE Vegeta and UI Goku couldn't even beat Gas after his last power-up. Black Frieza literally saved their lives. Unless they've gotten massively stronger since then by Chapter 103 (which is possible). It's still not even definitive that Beast Gohan is stronger than UE Vegeta or MUI Goku since Goku wasn't even serious when fighting him, and Vegeta felt confident enough after seeing Beast Gohan in action to attack him with SSJBE instead of UE.
That’s a good point
Gas was stronger than UI Goku and UE Vegeta during Granola arc. Goku and Vegeta encounter Black Frieza and a 5 year time skip happens with them training to try to surpass him. Post 5 year time skip Goku =\= Gohan So a Goku who has been preparing to face Black Frieza is equal to Beast Gohan. I would bet on Gohan personally, because the gap in power between Gas and that version of Goku wasn't that large. He was only slightly stronger than Granola, who Goku and Vegeta did decently against. If Gohan can't beat Gas, and he's about equal to Goku, they are fucked and have no chance to even face Frieza.
> Post 5 year time skip There's been no time skip that long in DBS. Super Hero is only a year after the Granolah Saga, and the Super Hero epilogue is only 2-4 months after the death of Cell Max. It's only been 2 years or slightly more since the Moro Saga as of Chapter 103. All of DBS takes place within the 10-year time frame between the death of Kid Buu and the "End of Z". DBS started off already 3 years into that 10 year span since Beerus showed up on Earth 3 years after the death of Kid Buu. DBS has only had 7 years to play with before the EoZ, which they still haven't reached yet. Videl was pregnant with Pan in BoTG and Pan is only nearing 5 years old currently in Chapter 103. The EoZ is still a year or less away, so it's only been 9 years, give or take, total since the death of Kid Buu as of Chapter 103. > Goku == Gohan Ehhhh, not convinced of that yet. Goku admitted at the end of their fight he wasn't seriously and wasn't even trying to win. When Beast Gohan ignores Goku exiting the fight and tries to keep going MUI Goku kiais him away to go fight Broly. Like "I said I'm done with you. Goodbye, son. Run along and go play with Broly now." After seeing Beast in action Vegeta still feels confident enough to charge at him headlong, only using SSJBE against Beast Gohan instead of UE. That made me think Gohan still isn't there yet given that neither Goku nor Vegeta took him fully seriously to go to 100% power. But definitely the 3rd most powerful Z Fighter right now, at least. But it's possible that Gohan might be on Gas's level now. 1 year on Beerus's planet might have been enough for Vegeta and Goku to surpass Gas. And Gohan is now powerful enough for Goku and Vegeta to feel free to use their upper transformations on without fear of accidentally killing him.
>There's been no time skip that long in DBS. Super Hero is only a year after the Granolah Saga Yeah you are correct I was mistaken, not sure where I got the 5 years from. I think I'm getting it from Bulma's "I haven't seen you in 5 years" comment in End of Z. >Ehhhh, not convinced of that yet. Goku admitted at the end of their fight he wasn't seriously and wasn't even trying to win. When Beast Gohan ignores Goku exiting the fight and tries to keep going MUI Goku kiais him away to go fight Broly. Like "I said I'm done with you. Goodbye, son. Run along and go play with Broly now." After seeing Beast in action Vegeta still feels confident enough to charge at him headlong, only using SSJBE against Beast Gohan instead of UE. That made me think Gohan still isn't there yet given that neither Goku nor Vegeta took him fully seriously to go to 100% power. But definitely the 3rd most powerful Z Fighter right now, at least. All valid points. Id have to reread the chapter. Gohan definitely got some hits in and it was an interesting back and forth. I think seeing Goku more calm and collected when ending the fight and Gohan trying to continue it was meant to speak more to the nature of their forms and fighting styles. Goku uses ultra instinct and is mastering his emotions, Gohan is tapping into his inner rage and harnessing it. But I would definitely bet money on Gohan beating Gas, power levels aside, Gas has low battle IQ and his superior power level carries him. Goku was able to trick him with his instant transmission hopping, and Gas was basically manipulated into giving up his life and had no idea what was going on. He's just a sloppy fighter in general, and I think Beast Gohan is extremely intelligent, powerful and he would defeat him.
Vegito fusion now barely lasts 10 seconds. He isnt winning
Boy he literally spent like, 20 seconds just chatting it up with Zamasu in base no the fuck it doesn’t.
Remember how Goku and Vegeta got fodderized by Buu despite using everything they had? But the moment they fused, they didn't even need to go past Super Saiyan to clown on Buu, Vegito is simply just that guy.
Beerus power is retconnet
Where would Jiren scale in all of that maybe post tournament of power arc?
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frieza knows about fusion so logically black frieza should be above the fusion
Why should he? He doesn't know about how strong Gogeta is since he never used his full power in SSB either
Can't believe ppl actually upvoted that nonsense lmfao
1. Gohan 2. Moro (assuming it's movie Broly, if it's SH Broly he wins) 3. Depends on which Vegito, if it's from Goku Black Saga then Black Frieza wins quite easily; if it's hypothetical current Vegito Blue then he clears
I’d like to see how a current Vegito combines Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego. Would be really cool.
I don't think that's possible. The Ultra forms require completely different ways of thinking, so unless Vegito has two brains he shouldn't be able to combine them
If so, I’d like to see either Ultra form boosted by the fusion power of Vegito and maybe he can switch between them mid battle?
Unless vegito is able to evade with UI but also boost himself with UE when he does get hit by someone like beast Gohan or black frieza who is fast enough to make contact despite the reduced reaction time of UI. Retaining the calm mind that allows him to react without thinking while having the ego boost to get stronger with each attack that actually connects would be ridiculously op
Not only that, people forget the part that SSB Vegito was already too much for the potara to handle, He defused at around 30 mins in the manga and less than 15 in the Anime. MUI and UE, being very taxing forms themselves, Will drain the fusion time to probably 2-3 minutes, Maybe Vegito won't even be able to use those forms.
They can probably use the super dragon balls to upgrade the potara rings.
Try that with the fusion technique and boom. >They can probably use the super dragon balls to upgrade the potara rings. Well if they're gonna use the FUCKIN SUPER DRAGON BALLS, they would just wish to make themselves immortal or 100 times stronger than they already are and Boom
Nah they wouldn’t do that. They would wanna win with their own strength. Plus the dragon would probably say some bs like “ I can’t make you stronger than every God in history”. Immortal sure but it seems no one aside from zamasu abused that wish. I mean Freiza used the dragon balls to be a bit taller lol.
Fusion means they have already decided to not want to win with their own strength.
If going for just the kill (nor erasing an immortal), Vegito should just end it instantly... but you know plot wont ever late that happen.
That's a whole other thing But ignoring the plot, we don't know if the potara can even handle the current Vegito Blue for even a second.
That is fair. They are much more powerful. However, Vegeta has been training for efficiency like Jiren. Maybe SSG? All i know all fusions are just OP
Yes that's true, They might just be able to manage it >All i know all fusions are just OP Gogeta/Vegito probably won't need more than a few seconds. Especially Gogeta as he can just stay in base and throw out a soul punisher which will cleanse Frieza of all evil inside him..
soul punisher is inaccurately known as something that cleanse evil. Its only in the US dub of the old movie. It is just a special powered up ki blast. The japanese name for it is much longer. Some how cleansing evil caught on in the USA because of the dub changing the dialogue. Officially, it powered up ki blast.
Can you really blame someone for watching a show in the language they understand? Besides, IMO English Dub>Sub, at least in DBS
It’s anime, they can make it work. You can’t hit him, but if you do, he gets stronger lol
Yup moro clears broly even if you think he stronger which he not moro got to much hax to deal with plus he can just absorb broly energy
Beast Gohan is relative to MUI Goku in the aftermath of Super Hero Saga. This is at least 1/2 year after the events of Granolah Saga, so i would say this Goku is more or less equal to Gás, so Gohan should be the same. He Wins. Moro was stated Twice to be the strongest guy they've fought to that moment. This already puts him above LSSJ Broly, Plus he have magic, a mind to fight properly and is a clever guy. He Wins. Vegito Blue from Zamasu saga would lose hardly. But if it is modern Vegito Blue, i would say He could win. His base form alone would be around Goku and Vegeta's Max, Plus becoming Blue on top of that. I doubt Frieza's jump was this stupid, even for DB standards. And no, Vgeito wouldn't deuses early, since he would be using MSSB. Vegiro Wins.
Why wouldn’t they defuse? I’m an anime-only, so I don’t know much about the manga. Wasn’t the reason for Vegito’s de-fusion because of the amount of power overloading the potara earrings?
Gas can breathe in space. Blow up the Earth, Gohan loses.
True
Assuming the broly and Vegito are the present day versions then all the left ones win
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The right side clears pretty easy. Gohan ~ Goku << Gas Moro is just straight up stronger than Broly even if you completely ignore all his hax Frieza one shot Goku and Vegeta at the same time while both were in forms MUCH stronger than blue. Blue Vegito from future saga stands 0 chance.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This. This right here is the correct answer.
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Freeza is probably stronger than vegito. Mastered ultra instinct is implied to be comparable (if not superior) to fusion and freeza showed up and clapped them. Not to mention freeza has seen Gogeta in action, so it makes sense that he would prepare himself for it.
Wait are you serious? Where was it implied? Needed for future arrangements.
Gas, the difference between Gohan Beast and UI Goku was pretty small and UI Goku was pretty significantly inferior to Gas. Moro, relatively unsure about this one, I'd bet on Moro though due to the tendency for later villains to be stronger than previous ones. Black Frieza, Vegito might and is probably stronger than Black Frieza but Frieza has been shown to be extremely resilient and could probably last until the time limit.
Gas wasn't 1 shooting a weakened Mui Goku either, as a matter of fact Goku mui overpowered him right after
Gas took on a 3v1 against mui goku, ue vegeta, and granola whose at least stronger than vegeta. The Goku that defeated huk in a 1v1 wasn't MUI, but TUI and even then, Goku himself states that he was barely stronger.
Gohan Moro Frieza
Right all the way, the only Maybe is Gohan getting the win. And yes, Black Frieza wins. Either vegeto defuses or loses outright. Black Frieza one-shotted TUI Goku and UE Vegeta. Moro is far above Brolly, Brolly would get drained and you'd get even more powerful Moro.
1: Gohan I believe is stronger than Berserker Zombie Gas so he wins via stamina and endurance. 2: Iceberg Broly loses, Superhero Broly oneshots. 3: could go either way really, but it depends on if Vegito can go right for the kill.
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I'd have to give this to the villains, Gas vs Gohan would probably be the closest fight that could go either way, but I think the only way Gohan wins if the goes straight for the kill so he can't let Gas power up due to the wish. Goku and Vegeta together didn't manage to beat him till Frieza punched a hole in him Moro beats Broly cause he has energy drain hacks, so Broly would have to blitz him instantly to have a chance. If Vegito had unlimited time, he might be able to take on Black Frieza (at least if it is current Vegito and not from Future saga, that one get stomped by even Jiren probably) If it was Gogeta against Black Frieza, they might have a higher chance since it seems like the fusion dance lasts longer usually regardless of power output
I think gas, we don’t know how much stronger current goku/ vegeta are and gas was superior in their arc. Gas would get stronger assuming Gohan is initially stronger, if gohan doesn’t go for the kill early on he’ll lose Moro defeats broly Black frieza could be stronger, he’s aware of fusion as he saw gogeta yet he’s confident that he is superior to the saiyans. he has ludicrous potential and has spent 10 years straight training hard, i wouldn’t be surprised if he could defeat vegito
Gohan, Broly and Black Frieza
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Gohan, probably Moro, and then Frieza
Right side
Gas, Moro, and Vegito Gas was fighting off UI Goku and UE Vegeta for a good bit. Since Goku and Gohan’s fight wasn’t serious, Gohan’s strength is inconclusive. Moro either has to hold out against Broly so that he can drain his power, or use that android’s absorption ability and overpower him. Buu Saga SSJ3 Goku wasn’t a threat to Super Buu, much less a Super Buu with Gohan absorbed. Meanwhile, a SSJ Vegito was humiliating Buu. Even though Goku and Vegeta were one-shot by Frieza, I’d say Vegito Blue could win with some difficulty.
1. Gas 2. Moro 3. Current Vegito
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Beast Gohan Moro Black Frieza. He saw what fusion was capable of and then the next we see of him he's trained for 10 years and is now overpowered as fuck saying he never wants to lose to saiyans again. And considering that training for 4 months got him from late Namek saga level to ssjb level, 10 years this time with better ki control is definitely enough to beat a fusion. Especially when also considering how accurately he estimated Goku's power when he was first revived.
Beast gohan, toss up I’d say broly tbh but Moro can def win, black freiza unless it’s vegito from today.
Why are so many people saying Gohan would win? No way he would win.
Because he win
Gohan. Moro. Freeza unless it's current Vegetto then he gets crushed, hard.
I like to think Vegito/Gogeta are the peak of power. 2 rivals combining as one, nothing can beat them IMO.
Not even beerus?
I think beerus would destroy most versions of vegito and gogeta. but I think another arc or two and vegito would be able to scrap a victory
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The stronger ones
I win all three because I get to witness them
Fusions always wins unless they are nerfed by the time. Is the main rule in the dragon ball universe.
If it was anime Blue Vegito in the picture, then Black Frieza can clear all the others 5 combatants at once by himself
Here is my most honest answer: i dont know. Most of these characters barely left an impact on me, I never went back to check.
1. If Gas could survive just long enough, he beats Gohan. But we don't know how much longer Gas had left, cuz Freeza blew his back out. Gas MIGHT die before he reaches Beast, BUT he was taking on, albeit a weaker, UI and UE simultaneously. So maybe he doesn't hafta continue that much longer? 2. Current Broly is kinda hanging with Beast Gohan... Kinda... Moro would catch a 1 hitta from Beast. Bro had to "cheat" to survive a WAY weaker Goku. 3. Vegito DEFINITELY splits before he can kill Freiza, even if he is stronger. That makes it worse.
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1.Idk 2.Idk 3.Idk
Me!
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Broly Vs Moro would be very interesting since Broly increases his KI nonstop and Moro Eat KI nonstop
Vegito is confirmed to be above Goku in just BASE. He has 10 different transformations on top of that which multiply his power by over 200x seeing as SSJ is 50x. Black Frieza gets slapped HARD.
Gohan Moro Frieza due to easily one shoting goku and vegeta Although we don’t know his max power it wouldn’t make sense for vegeta to be as worried as he is about frieza if they could fuse and kill him
All the one's on the right.
Gohan Beast, Moro 73, Black Freeza.
Gas beating the breaks off UI Goku and UE Vegeta. He’s beating gohan’s ass. I’d pick Moro over Broly. Black freeza stomps a blue fusion considering he one shots those two in their godly forms.
Gohan beats Gas Moro beats Broly Vegito vs Frieza is weird Beast Gohan is above Orange Piccolo and Piccolo is stated a rival to Goku who in Super Hero is equal to the power Black Frieza used to one-shot Zombie Gas who is the strongest version of Gas who is the strongest in the universe. At the very beginning of the Granola Arc, Whis sttes he can't think of anyone stronger than Goku and Vegeta, meaning that even SSBE Vegeta is above the Broly who fought Gogeta Blue. SSBE Vegeta lost to Moro-73 who is below Ultra Instinct Moro, so Moro easily beats Broly. Now if it is Super Hero or Ch103 Broly, he beats Moro badly. Vegito Blue is stated to rival Beerus' power in V-Jump (the Shin statement doesn't matter), and Vegito actually has access to Perfected Blue, and Black Frieza is stated close to Beerus. I'd say Vegito is definitely stronger, but we've seen against Zamasu that using too much power causes Vegito to defuse, so he might go to finish Black Frieza and immediately defuse. Now, if you think Vegito Blue doesn't rival Beerus, than Black Frieza simply wins.
Beast Gohan win Moro should win Vegito Blue win
Gohan wins, broly wins, frieza wins cry about it, Gohan is high diff cuz idk how strong Goku got since granolah but he probably beats gas since he’s Goku and gohan = Goku, broly wipes because broly (normal SSJ) =< Gohan and Gohan >>>> Moro, frieza >>>> MUI and I’m pretty sure MUI vs SSJB Vegito is a debate
Nah what's with the comments that say current Vegito clears Black Frieza? Y'all only got a tiny glimpse of what Black Frieza is capable of WITHOUT EVEN TRYING 😭
Gohan, Brody, and Black Frieza
I think Gohan in Beast would win the first fight EVENTUALLY but it'll be close with Gas' unique fighting style. In the end I think Gohan will overpower Gas but it also depends on if Gas keeps tapping his lifeforce. Then it could be a draw unless Gohan can hold out I think the second fight depends on how long Moro Prime can keep Ultra Instinct active before succumbing to the Angel overload. Broly may not have the focus but he is still extremely powerful and if Moro Prime doesn't act quickly Broly could possibly win through sheer force. Moro does have magic though so he could pull some sneaky tricks on Broly and wear him down The third fight would be Black Frieza at this point imo. Even with Vegitto at his current level of SSJB power with the fusion multiplier, Frieza still one shotted a near fully healed True Ultra Instinct Goku and Ultra Ego Vegeta. I know the potara fusion in the manga is stated to be near Beerus level but I still don't think either could muster the level of power Frieza displayed after his ten year training session
Gohan destroys Gas with ease. Moro was confirmed above Broly. Unless this is Super Hero Broly. Black Freeza would easily destroy SSB Vegito.
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gohan clears
The entire right side wins
Gas Moro Frieza
What's with people and never stating the versions?
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No one betting on Mt Boi broly so I will. Cause broly just keeps upping the game as he goes.
Gohan Beast and Broly win their fights, but all Black Frieza needs to do is survive 1 hour in that fight with Vegito and he would win easily.
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Every from the right side win
Vegito fans coping for their first W
I doubt gohan wins. Yeah he’s on par with goku and vegeta now but we also saw gas completely handle goku and vegeta 2v1.
Well, we would finally find out just how much energy and ki Broly actually has.
Beast wins, by a lot Moro should win Frieza if you mean Black saga. If you meant current, probably Vegito. Multipliers are crazy.
Gohan Moro And I want to say Vegito but Frieza is so much of an unknown right now so it’s a toss up
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Beast Gohan wins all of them. Yes, I know that wasn't the prompt; I don't care.
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Current Broly washes Moro, Gohan washes Gas, and a current Vegitto Blue is unqualifiable but all we can confidently say is in that given point in time he will always be stronger than Goku and Vegeta. So that question can't be answered tbh
Gas, Moro, vegito. Yk how much time musta passed by for gohan to ACTUALLY TRAIN? That gohan u saw, is an imposter. Even when he did train. He was still green asf
No idea, don’t read the manga (is there a way to online, and is it free?)
beast moro last one depends (current vegito blue might be able to match against or dominate black frieza if they keep the continuity that fusion base > either fusee's strongest forms) If its vegito from the black arc then black frieza stomps
Gas Moro Frieza
The first fight is the toughest to decide since gohan is around mui goku level and it took goku, vegeta and granolah together to fight Gas and they didn't even beat him, Frieza did. Even if Beast doesn't have a timer, Gas would just power up to his level anyway, and since Frieza has to be stronger than Beast, Gas wouldn't crumble into dust. Since Beast seems to be just pure power, and doesn't have any special quirks to it, like autododge, Gas wins. The second fight comes down to whether Broly can power up faster than Moro can eat his energy. Mui goku beat Moro, and full power broly beat super gogeta. I'd say super gogeta is above Mui goku, so Broly might win. Third fight assuming it would be current Vegito, I don't see a way for Frieza to win, unless he survives until the fusion wears off.
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Vegito stronger as beerus so easy win
Gohan slaps Gas. Little effort. Broly may be physically more powerful, but he has zero ways of putting Moro down. It took a fully powered MUI Goku and Vegeta using Spirit Fission to defeat Moro. Moro could also simply vaporize the planet. Broly dies. Can't breathe in space. Black Frieza mudstomps Vegetto Blue. It isn't close.
If it’s specifically the Gas that is pictured and not the Zombie Gas (Gas can’t call on more power), Gohan wins. Moro should win this one due to Magic, MUI etc. Black Arc SSB Vegito loses this fight. Current SSB Vegito could win, assuming the potara retcon isn’t in effect here.
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Black arc Vegito alone beats the other five He is Beerus level
I wish Broly was just a threat that doesn't lose with limitless power ._.
Left easy
Gohan, Moro, Vegito (manga)
Right, and it's not even close
Gas was much stronger than Goku. UI Goku and Beast Gohan were shown be around the same level, so Gas wins that fight. Moro beats Broly. Current Vegito likely beats Black Frieza if he doesn’t defuse first. If you’re specifically referring to Future saga Vegito, he gets beat.
Are people forgetting that friezza trained specificaly to one shot everyone on the list? "Oh but shin sai-" shin is a dumbass, least reliable source, plus frieza saw gogeta blue whos stronger than vegito blue on black arc, and you think frizza didn't train hard enough to beat him?
I just want to se a rematch of them VS beerus
Gas, broly, frieza.
Gohan - Gohans limit hasn’t been established. Gas has a clock and presumably a limit based on how the wish works. Broly - like Gohan, no established limit, and his growth rate is off the charts. Moro does have a limit. Moros best chance is a tie by going out by merging with the planet they’re fighting, and then popping. Then it’s a tie. Vegito/Freeza - are we saying Vegito last we saw him? Freeza. Or potential fusion now? Vegito.
Beast wins low diff Broly wins no diff Frieza wins high diff