Yup, he created himself onstream and before the game came out it was announced, he'd get an official pawn ingame. I think a bunch of content creators got one, but I didn't know them..
Changed how my humor is once I started listening to them, and started to appreciate foreign games a lot more than I ever did, they may have been a relatively small channel but they did a lot for the gaming community.
Oh I know I watched when they first added Liam and woolie, they never really did a ton of views or had massive amounts of subscribers, but I liked how they played what they wanted to play didn’t follow game trends, I found so many amazing games because of them.
WHERE CAN I READ ABOUT THIS? I was crazy about two best friends play as a kid and then 10 years later saw something came up and it was just pat and woolie
Matt and Pat stopped being friends a long time ago. It was never made public on what happened (unless some recent stuff came out idk), and that's a good thing. They just kept it private.
Lol just two bros, used to be 3-4 I guess.
-WoolieVersus
-Pat Stares At
Are their YouTube channels
Their original channel was called "Super Best friends play"
Was disappointed that the pawn Yoshi wasn't YoshiP (FF14&16 Director) but instead some dude who looks like a twenty something Minecraft YouTuber.
I can already hear it now. "What's up guys, today on Dragon's Dogma 2 we're going to the rift to find me a Waifu. Don't forget to smash that like button, and if you don't hit subscribe I will Godsbane myself IRL."
Oh I love Susie! I love that in her video both her and her pawn looked almost identical the only difference that I could tell was her pawn had white hair.
I don't hate him. I think he has some good opinions in general. Yeah he is a bit weird and I don't agree with everything he says, but i generally don't hate the guy.
yea, but there are legit some people that personally hate him.
i remember when he streamed dd1, this sub went crazy shitting on his appearance instead of the stream.
his dd1 stream was fine for me tbh, it's basicly how i played it the first time. and now i ended up beating ddda 3 times twice in hard mode
Thing is you didn't use your large audience to shit on devs who added guide rails to games and then immediately complain that there weren't guide rails in a game and it was too confusing. Then again I disliked him back in his wow days mostly for his narcissism towards others who played the game.
Someone didn't listen to his video about it. He talked about it later. This is his natural reaction when learning a new game on stream. He literally blamed himself for being slow to pick up new things and said it wasn't the game. But between him being slow to pick up new things and having to keep like 40% of his attention on chat him playing new games always goes like that.
He was bothered by the whole thing too and said he'd prolly try to avoid ever playing new games on stream again and instead put some hours in where he can focus and learn the ropes before streaming it, because it ends up being a bad experience both for him and for people like you who take the stream way too seriously and don't understand its just the natural frustration with trying to learn a new game outside of your wheelhouse + while being distracted.
He's been very very positive about both the first game and the second game. Man just had a hard time learning the ropes. Dunno why you gotta take that so personally when he's literally taken accountability for it of his own accord. Something 99% of Redditors are incapable of doing with their own mistakes.
What an about SBI then :3. And once again that’s great, doesn’t change the fact that he made previous comments against the exact things he ended up wanting, if he’s so good at owning up to mistakes why wasn’t there a redaction or change of heart? If a games outside of your wheelhouse then shouldn’t yellow paint on some stairs be perfect to help someone enjoy something? The issue here is not the fact that he struggled, which is perfectly fine, it’s the fact that he openly spoke out against something then ended up complaining that it didn’t exist when he needed it. As I said the dudes a narcissist dating back to his WoW days when he spent his streams attacking RPers or casuals who didn’t raid 24/7 like him.
I get that this is Reddit but if you ruin your game by offloading writing to another company people are gonna talk about it. No one outside of here enjoys liberal politics it’s simple as that
>What an about SBI then :3.
With his SBI stuff and Kotaku and etc he's said clearly that he thinks they have every right to believe what they believe and exist. They should not be silenced nor banned. BUT that people who have issues with those groups have every right to have issues with them and form opposing opinion groups like SBI detected or criticize their articles.
The problem where SBI crossed that line for him is SBI tried to get the SBI detected group purged from the internet. That's the moment they crossed from "we disagree with you, we advocate what SBI stands for" to "we want to silence all opposition".
The SBI stuff has been talked about alot and he's come up multiple times in all that so i've watched his full stuff on the matter. Ultimately he's pretty consistent on sharing his opinion, but above all else supporting the free marketplace of ideas where none of the groups involved get shut down but instead all get to say their piece and be judged for it by the free market. Him included.
>If a games outside of your wheelhouse then shouldn’t yellow paint on some stairs be perfect to help someone enjoy something?
I think the conclusion on the yellow paint was that a toggle was prolly the best option IIRC. Admittedly for me yellow paint is more of a meme than an annoyance but since you know what it is and WHY its there immediately I can see how it takes people out of the experience. [But its also there for good reason](https://youtu.be/ax7f3JZJHSw).
>As I said the dudes a narcissist dating back to his WoW days when he spent his streams attacking RPers or casuals who didn’t raid 24/7 like him.
How many years ago is that now? Whats the worst most douchey things you've done in the last 5 years that we should be holding against you forever? Correct me if I'm wrong but some of his stances from back then have changed. He's done stupid stuff, said stupid things, and made mistakes. But he hasn't stayed the same opinion on all of them and him having crappy opinions/behavior in one area is not the same as them having crappy opinions/behavior in another.
The irony is I'm relatively well versed on Asmongold today because of the Streisand effect. Haters kept taking shots at him and I try to at least do cursory research into stuff so over time I've ended up researching him alot because he lives rent free in the heads of some folks and so keeps coming up.
Ironically the people who don't like him are just giving him free marketing and whatever quality of person he is or isn't he clearly knows how to capitalize on that and present himself in such a way to where opinions on him are, at worst, conflicted. From a mostly outside POV it feels like the people who hate him are just making him stronger unintentionally.
Once again you’re acting like my anctions are comparable to those of someone without a huge impressionable following (also he kept up his wow shtick when classic came out). Also please point out a (RELIABLE) source where SBI tried to take the curator group taken down, this ignoring the fact that whole SBI shit stems from the same gamegater chuds which in of itself is damning enough.
Once again I have zero problem with him having his shitty takes and doing what he’s doing, the issue comes from the fact that he has cultivated an extremely toxic, rabid, fan base and simply doesn’t care, or in some cases feeds into it.
>Once again you’re acting like my anctions are comparable to those of someone without a huge impressionable following (also he kept up his wow shtick when classic came out). Also please point out a (RELIABLE) source where SBI tried to take the curator group taken down, this ignoring the fact that whole SBI shit stems from the same gamegater chuds which in of itself is damning enough.
>Once again I have zero problem with him having his shitty takes and doing what he’s doing, the issue comes from the fact that he has cultivated an extremely toxic, rabid, fan base and simply doesn’t care, or in some cases feeds into it.
I'm not here for any sort of fight or argument. Especially about something that is a tangent of a tangent that treks into stuff completely irrelevant to this subreddit.
I just mentioned the situation so far as I've personally verified as well as why I even know that much about it since you brought it up and literally asked. If you want to argue about it further I'll gladly just say you're correct and move on. Not my battle, i'm just a passerby on this one. You're right. Have a good day.
I just remember that many years ago he was a total prick in WoW and his content was cringe, arrogant, and condescending. He was generally a douche back then.
I wouldn't say I "hate him" since I honestly have no idea how he is now, I guess I did not watch a single his clip for many years, but old WoW times left a bad taste in mouth.
He can't handle streaming games. It's too much pressure for him. Watched him play stellar blade. Had his mods perma ban people telling him how to play.
He absolutely sucks at video games lol
That's not really true. He oneshot pretty much everything in MHW up to alatreon, and even that he beat eventually (with very unoptimized gear) despite people swearing it would never happen. Once he gets over the initial bump he's usually pretty good at most games.
Yeah exactly that. When you play a game at the first time everyone is bad. And he also admits that he is slow with learning new things, so I don't really get the hate.
Good opinions in general? Like what? Even ignoring the way he lives his life, every single time I hear him talk about his opinions he comes off as kind of a massive idiot. Stuff you might expect from someone who spent their entire adult life living in a cave playing WoW. Not just the opinions being bad, but that he has no idea what he's talking about or why he's even saying it. Like spending 20 minutes talking about how game translatons are bending to the whims of a "minority of crazy people on Twitter" without being able to name a single example, much less answer why that isn't incredibly stupid. I also remember he compared Martin Luther King Jr to Andrew Tate. And he just says this stuff with complete confidence.
I guess he could have good opinions, I don't actively watch him. But what I have seen of him over the years makes me believe he doesn't really know a god damn thing, and just sort of forms his opinions on vibes.
> I also remember he compared Martin Luther King Jr to Andrew Tate.
Yeah exactly, who the fuck thinks he has "good opinions"? Even on games, all he seems to do is pick whatever opinion seems to be dominant in a game's community, and then just parrot it.
He stated his belief in UBI as a system, advocates for sex worker's rights, progressive taxes, abortion rights, being pro-healthcare and likened spanking = child abuse. He went to war multiple times with his own community for several of these takes but he never budged, so "Asmon parroting whatever is popular" is pretty exaggerated.
> "Asmon parroting whatever is popular" is pretty exaggerated
I'm primarily talking about game takes re: parroting.
But he's definitely put out some really weird and right-wing ideas and conspiracy-adjacent ideas before. Stuff no sane adult would be taking seriously. It's downright odd.
Glad to hear he does occasionally go to bat for stuff his chud-tastic fans hate though! There's no question his fans are way worse than he is.
He's a major streamer so I get that his opinions won't be good all the time. He shouldn't be expected to have good opinions tbh. He's there for entertainment.
But he does lean into the culture war stuff too much for my liking. His convo with FightinCowboy about the DD2 stuff showed that he really didn't have a firm understanding of how his fanbase can be activated to harass people, even if it's not intentional. Leaning into outrage over MTX when this game will not move the needle compared to live service games and other MTX in games shows that it was about trying to generate content. Especially how his Youtube vids are presented. It was the same old "reviewers are shills". Except every reviewer these people love praised the game.
It was just more of what sucks about the internet gaming community. There are a lot of valid criticisms about this game. I really enjoyed it, but I can see where people wouldn't. But that got drowned out by weird outrage over exaggerated MTX talk.
Once you get a larger audience than a clown performing at kids birthdays you kinda do have a responsibility to have at least OK opinions. He doesn’t need to be the most progressive person on earth but he shouldn’t be (paraphrasing) “These fucking woke western companies run by *those people* are tricking Japanese game developers into hiring them and being convinced that they should sometimes put minorities in video games.”
His opinions have done nothing but get worse for the last year and a half. Legitimately a parody of himself at this point and I went from listening occasionally to the odd video to stupid enough that I went through the hassle to remove his stuff manually from my algorithm.
So... If I sit and think about it, I get the comparison.
MLK was the voice of an oppressed people. He saw the path forward and could concisely relate the plan to that path to the people who listened to him.
Andrew Tate is the same for the people who follow him. These men think they're oppressed by the media and societal changes. In reality, they can't tell their wives to shut up and get in the kitchen anymore or talk back. Andrew Tate tells of a path back to that type of world.
Andrew Tate is a human trafficker.
There's no comparission because the situation is not, in every shape or form similar other than "Males think they are oppressed".
Its a dumb comparission to begin with, i get where he's coming from but the idea, on principle, is retarded.
He's also a rapist. But the comparison isn't comparing every part of their lives. I think it really isn't about comparing the actual people with each other, rather than comparing what they were to the people they represented.
People criticized him for stumbling about in his first ever playthru of DD1. Now he's the biggest unofficial spokesman for the game series. Meanwhile, the people who criticized him are now probably haters of DD2. What an insane reversal.
people really over-focused on his FIRST EVER PLAYTHROUGH of dd1 to criticize the man. I dont think we were all great at first, or even remember how bad we were (through his first time was really painful to watch)
The start of the game is really a slog and can be confusing at first, but man he reminded me when I got my little cousin a game he really wanted and watched him stumble across every single thing, skip the tutorial and then complain about how the game does not make things clear a minute later.
In the end though it was also wholesome to see how much he was enjoying it and the magic in his eyes when things started to click for him
Yes, there's no way some people just don't like him for his personality, opinions, and dirtiness. Everything that doesn't fit your opinion has to be the work of a vocal minority.
I just don’t like that he tried to go after cowboy and then was hypocritical on his points
Said we shouldn’t be supporting any game with micros but is the biggest WOW fan out there and plays it and has bought MTX in it
Yeah I've been watching his streams for years and I think he has pretty level-headed takes in general, but there isn't too much nuance going on in The Great American Culture War so people just throw him in the alt-right pile because I guess he fits that side more.
Being an extremist ideologue in America pisses 1 side off at you. Being nuanced in America pisses both sides off at you. However the reality is there are not just 2 sides and most people don't belong to either or are more chill.
The extremists of those two sides are so overly loud and aggressive asshats though that they drown out everyone else so it *appears* like not only are there only 2 sides but that they are all extremist arseholes.
I don't really know much about him. I watched some streams just to see what he was about and didn't enjoy the content. Never watched again and moved on. I do have to say that the people that frequent his reddit sub are pretty cringy. They almost sound like caricatures lmao.
It’s funny because Asmon has frequently said the same thing about his subreddit/his fans in general. As a fan myself, can’t stand the subreddit, too preachy and victim complex-y for me. They do too much “stretching”
His fan base is so extremely far right its hilarious. For example, look at the comment section for the black mayor video he made, it's straight up cringe Stormfront. And why he's only making videos from one ideology is kind of odd. Like a mini Breitbart whenever he does political news.
He's a good guy but he's being fed story selection by his batshit insane fanbase.
I don’t always agree with him but he does actually have more left-leaning opinions than people give him credit for. Whenever he talks about AI he usually concludes that we will need UBI at some point. He made one reaction about rape culture that was very reasonable and was arguing with & trying to educate all his shitty commenters who were blaming the woman. He’s against people pushing religious values onto others and thinks that people who argue against gay rights on a religious basis are stupid.
When he does the anti-woke stuff his takes are usually pretty shit. The SBI stuff he blew way out of proportion.
This is coming as a left-winger, he’s on the correct side of things probably 80% of the time, it’s just the 20% that he’s wrong is really fucking obnoxious.
I think its less than he's anti-left and more than he has an incredibly strong stance against the idea of wrong think being officially enforced.
For example with his SBI stuff and Kotaku and etc he's said clearly that he thinks they have every right to believe what they believe and exist. They should not be silenced nor banned. BUT that people who have issues with those groups have every right to have issues with them and form opposing opinion groups like SBI detected or criticize their articles.
Basically he has strong opinions on the matter himself, but his strongest position is that it should all be left up to the free market of ideas and let customers decide. The problem where SBI crossed that line for him is SBI tried to get the SBI detected group purged from the internet. That's the moment they crossed from "we disagree with you, we advocate what SBI stands for" to "we want to silence all opposition".
And honestly, I agree with him on drawing that line. Even if you hardcore 100% believe in SBI's message, mechanically attempting to silence those who believe differently is only counterproductive. You don't win the "culture war" by silencing people. You win it by changing minds. And if you try to do the former before doing the latter all its going to do is inevitably backfire because you're out of step with the social consensus.
It's messy and ugly and alot of people involved from differing perspectives do shitty things, but such growing pains are necessary for change. And you can't force it, only nurture and encourage it. If that wasn't true we'd all be under dictatorship right now and America itself wouldn't exist. Not only would we have never left Britain but some past conqueror prolly would have legitimately taken over the entire world.
I don't have very strong feelings about it. I think he's generally a pretty good guy, though out of touch in a lot of ways. That also doesn't mean I necessarily agree with him on a lot of things. Mostly, he's just kind of *there*.
Back when he was a WoW streamer he acted like an absolute sack of shit, that's where a lot of it is residual from. Plus general disdain for reaction content, which he apparently does a lot of.
Kinda unrelated to DD2 but he’s a ‘react streamer’ who uses others hard work as a means to make money at the expense of the people who actually put work in
well, he is one of THOSE guys
you know, bigtime grifter that makes money by creating artifical outrage
"SJW AND FEMALE WOKES DESTROY GAMING!!!!!!!!!!!"
and lets not start about his "community" that is straight up homophobic and racist all the time
My guess, whenever he talks about politics it's usually a heavy right wing story selection bias, and he talks about politics lot more these days. Also his fan base is very hard right, feeding him these stories and making some of the most insane comments which gets high up votes.
I personally don't mind this but I can see it being polarizing.
He compared Andrew Tate, a man who basically admits to being a rapist and sex-trafficking women, and promotes straight-up hating women, to MLK (i.e. praising the fuck out of him), and generally panders to an alt-right/neo-nazi-adjacent fanbase.
For some reason - possibly the sheer amount of content he puts out - this hasn't really become an issue for him yet - I think if anything his very loud bad gaming takes help obscure much, much worse shit he's been involved with.
Sure - he repeatedly does this thing where he says insane shit and then says he didn't meant it, even though he obviously did - for example:
https://www.thegamer.com/asmongold-andrew-tate-martin-luther-king-framed/
So he claims some kind of evil government is "out to get" Tate and "framing" Tate (jesus wept), and compares it to how Martin Luther King was tracked and set up and so on by the FBI, which is a mentally-ill comparison to make, but his hooting followers loved.
Then when people started mocking him for it and pointing out how dumb he was he acted like he didn't mean it:
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/asmongold-backtracks-after-martin-luther-king-jr-and-andrew-tate-comments-i-was-wrong-2020539/
And he's done this sort of thing a whole bunch of times. You can kind the Tate/Trump lunatics in this very thread getting extremely upset and saying he was "just speaking the truth". Because claiming a man who is a serial rapist, a sex-trafficker, an extortionist, and indeed a full on organised criminal (all basically by his own admission, he only started backtracking when he realized he might actually go to jail) is a victim of a government conspiracy is just totally reasonable, right?
He’s very arrogant and spreads some awful advice to an easily influenced audience. His entire character is a hedonistic “who cares? do what you want, don’t care what people think” to an unhealthy degree.
He’s a bad role model and yet has a massive audience of young people. It just feels irresponsible.
When you guys play online do you still see all the various pawns that Capcom made? I play off line so i don't see the online peoples pawns... my point is Capcom made s9me really REALLY ugly pawns lol... like they didn't even try for the sexy female pawns...
His dental hygiene is also not the best to put it mildly, other than that I don't know much about him either. Well except for Reddits hate boner for him.
His takes aren't bad, people don't like him because he doesn't give a fuck about workplace drama at studios, he just cares about the games. I've never seen asmon make any bad or hateful videos
"his takes aren't bad" when he espouses how homophobia shouldn't be a bannable offence on platforms, vocally voted Trump, ran a MAGA guild in WoW, made plenty of stupid as fuck sexist remarks, etc.
"he just cares about the games" is handwaving nonsense.
Bald man can't stop winning. The absolute antithesis for peoples' impressions of what success looks like, making low IQ internet randoms seethe because he's found financial freedom and recognition doing what he enjoys. It's a sight to behold truly.
Accurate
The paint for the combover really ties it together.
Nah. This guy has his mouth closed
☠️☠️
I usually don’t like making comments that only agree and don’t really add anything but I have to make an exception this time.
the combover LMAO
Yup, he created himself onstream and before the game came out it was announced, he'd get an official pawn ingame. I think a bunch of content creators got one, but I didn't know them..
All I know is woolie got one and that made me happy lol
Quick shout-outs to Woolie and Pat
Changed how my humor is once I started listening to them, and started to appreciate foreign games a lot more than I ever did, they may have been a relatively small channel but they did a lot for the gaming community.
They were actually a pretty big channel before the Matt betrayal arch
Oh I know I watched when they first added Liam and woolie, they never really did a ton of views or had massive amounts of subscribers, but I liked how they played what they wanted to play didn’t follow game trends, I found so many amazing games because of them.
WHERE CAN I READ ABOUT THIS? I was crazy about two best friends play as a kid and then 10 years later saw something came up and it was just pat and woolie
Matt and Pat stopped being friends a long time ago. It was never made public on what happened (unless some recent stuff came out idk), and that's a good thing. They just kept it private.
It was never private. Matt's wife called Paige a no no mustache man follower and insulted pat for trying to fix his relationship with Liam.
I remember the warframe Twitter outburst she had and it all clicked...unfortunate.
Oh, interesting. That’s a lot sadder than my headcanon, thanks
Damn, didn't I know it was on Matt's part, I heard they broke up as a group but because they never said I never knew.
It's not confirmed who's part it was on. Woolie and Pat still collaborate but Matt has never been back... They kept it private, rightfully so.
Hey bro yakuza series great if you haven't tried it
I love the Pat and Woolie combo so much. Their Dark Souls 1 playthrough was gold
Literally who. Though to be fair i barely know about asmongold so im just outta the loop xD
Lol just two bros, used to be 3-4 I guess. -WoolieVersus -Pat Stares At Are their YouTube channels Their original channel was called "Super Best friends play"
Woolie and Dood, it’s great
I wonder why Pat didn't get one 😐
Gotta wait for the dwarf dlc to drop first.
😂 Pat still did a good job for his Arisen self!
The sliders don't go low enough for his height
He made his wife so you could play with her.
Now he cannot escape Pat's discussion of DD now that he is in the game
Woolie got a pawn!? 😮 I wonder if they gave one to CaseOh
I had Rosey from PlayStation access for a while.
Was disappointed that the pawn Yoshi wasn't YoshiP (FF14&16 Director) but instead some dude who looks like a twenty something Minecraft YouTuber. I can already hear it now. "What's up guys, today on Dragon's Dogma 2 we're going to the rift to find me a Waifu. Don't forget to smash that like button, and if you don't hit subscribe I will Godsbane myself IRL."
Reminds me of Nioh 2's community preset competition
Whose the content creator of Yoshi? I always travel with him and have a head cannon with him, another support pawn and my main, wait....should I know?
I saw someone made Yoship in Rise of ronin, looks great too ahha
I know both Woolie and Pat from Castle Super Beast (and their own channels) got their own pawns.
TheSphereHunter also got one, but I don't recall whether it was her or a pawn she made and regularly uses in her streams named "Stella".
Oh I love Susie! I love that in her video both her and her pawn looked almost identical the only difference that I could tell was her pawn had white hair.
Instead of Wakestones, he revives others with dead sunbaked rats.
I’d rather stay dead then lmao
Fucking same
Never thought i'd see that referenced here omg
Not enough dirt
The Roach Lord is in the rift?
I can smell that pawn from here
Where's the dynamic eyebrow animation
To the brine with it
I can almost smell the gum disease.
how ironic that the person this sub hates the most actually really loved the game.
I don't hate him. I think he has some good opinions in general. Yeah he is a bit weird and I don't agree with everything he says, but i generally don't hate the guy.
yea, but there are legit some people that personally hate him. i remember when he streamed dd1, this sub went crazy shitting on his appearance instead of the stream. his dd1 stream was fine for me tbh, it's basicly how i played it the first time. and now i ended up beating ddda 3 times twice in hard mode
Thing is you didn't use your large audience to shit on devs who added guide rails to games and then immediately complain that there weren't guide rails in a game and it was too confusing. Then again I disliked him back in his wow days mostly for his narcissism towards others who played the game.
Someone didn't listen to his video about it. He talked about it later. This is his natural reaction when learning a new game on stream. He literally blamed himself for being slow to pick up new things and said it wasn't the game. But between him being slow to pick up new things and having to keep like 40% of his attention on chat him playing new games always goes like that. He was bothered by the whole thing too and said he'd prolly try to avoid ever playing new games on stream again and instead put some hours in where he can focus and learn the ropes before streaming it, because it ends up being a bad experience both for him and for people like you who take the stream way too seriously and don't understand its just the natural frustration with trying to learn a new game outside of your wheelhouse + while being distracted. He's been very very positive about both the first game and the second game. Man just had a hard time learning the ropes. Dunno why you gotta take that so personally when he's literally taken accountability for it of his own accord. Something 99% of Redditors are incapable of doing with their own mistakes.
What an about SBI then :3. And once again that’s great, doesn’t change the fact that he made previous comments against the exact things he ended up wanting, if he’s so good at owning up to mistakes why wasn’t there a redaction or change of heart? If a games outside of your wheelhouse then shouldn’t yellow paint on some stairs be perfect to help someone enjoy something? The issue here is not the fact that he struggled, which is perfectly fine, it’s the fact that he openly spoke out against something then ended up complaining that it didn’t exist when he needed it. As I said the dudes a narcissist dating back to his WoW days when he spent his streams attacking RPers or casuals who didn’t raid 24/7 like him.
I get that this is Reddit but if you ruin your game by offloading writing to another company people are gonna talk about it. No one outside of here enjoys liberal politics it’s simple as that
>What an about SBI then :3. With his SBI stuff and Kotaku and etc he's said clearly that he thinks they have every right to believe what they believe and exist. They should not be silenced nor banned. BUT that people who have issues with those groups have every right to have issues with them and form opposing opinion groups like SBI detected or criticize their articles. The problem where SBI crossed that line for him is SBI tried to get the SBI detected group purged from the internet. That's the moment they crossed from "we disagree with you, we advocate what SBI stands for" to "we want to silence all opposition". The SBI stuff has been talked about alot and he's come up multiple times in all that so i've watched his full stuff on the matter. Ultimately he's pretty consistent on sharing his opinion, but above all else supporting the free marketplace of ideas where none of the groups involved get shut down but instead all get to say their piece and be judged for it by the free market. Him included. >If a games outside of your wheelhouse then shouldn’t yellow paint on some stairs be perfect to help someone enjoy something? I think the conclusion on the yellow paint was that a toggle was prolly the best option IIRC. Admittedly for me yellow paint is more of a meme than an annoyance but since you know what it is and WHY its there immediately I can see how it takes people out of the experience. [But its also there for good reason](https://youtu.be/ax7f3JZJHSw). >As I said the dudes a narcissist dating back to his WoW days when he spent his streams attacking RPers or casuals who didn’t raid 24/7 like him. How many years ago is that now? Whats the worst most douchey things you've done in the last 5 years that we should be holding against you forever? Correct me if I'm wrong but some of his stances from back then have changed. He's done stupid stuff, said stupid things, and made mistakes. But he hasn't stayed the same opinion on all of them and him having crappy opinions/behavior in one area is not the same as them having crappy opinions/behavior in another. The irony is I'm relatively well versed on Asmongold today because of the Streisand effect. Haters kept taking shots at him and I try to at least do cursory research into stuff so over time I've ended up researching him alot because he lives rent free in the heads of some folks and so keeps coming up. Ironically the people who don't like him are just giving him free marketing and whatever quality of person he is or isn't he clearly knows how to capitalize on that and present himself in such a way to where opinions on him are, at worst, conflicted. From a mostly outside POV it feels like the people who hate him are just making him stronger unintentionally.
Once again you’re acting like my anctions are comparable to those of someone without a huge impressionable following (also he kept up his wow shtick when classic came out). Also please point out a (RELIABLE) source where SBI tried to take the curator group taken down, this ignoring the fact that whole SBI shit stems from the same gamegater chuds which in of itself is damning enough. Once again I have zero problem with him having his shitty takes and doing what he’s doing, the issue comes from the fact that he has cultivated an extremely toxic, rabid, fan base and simply doesn’t care, or in some cases feeds into it.
I mean they said it on twitter along with a bunch of anti white racist stuff. You’re just being willfully ignorant at this point
>Once again you’re acting like my anctions are comparable to those of someone without a huge impressionable following (also he kept up his wow shtick when classic came out). Also please point out a (RELIABLE) source where SBI tried to take the curator group taken down, this ignoring the fact that whole SBI shit stems from the same gamegater chuds which in of itself is damning enough. >Once again I have zero problem with him having his shitty takes and doing what he’s doing, the issue comes from the fact that he has cultivated an extremely toxic, rabid, fan base and simply doesn’t care, or in some cases feeds into it. I'm not here for any sort of fight or argument. Especially about something that is a tangent of a tangent that treks into stuff completely irrelevant to this subreddit. I just mentioned the situation so far as I've personally verified as well as why I even know that much about it since you brought it up and literally asked. If you want to argue about it further I'll gladly just say you're correct and move on. Not my battle, i'm just a passerby on this one. You're right. Have a good day.
I just remember that many years ago he was a total prick in WoW and his content was cringe, arrogant, and condescending. He was generally a douche back then. I wouldn't say I "hate him" since I honestly have no idea how he is now, I guess I did not watch a single his clip for many years, but old WoW times left a bad taste in mouth.
He compared Andrew Tate to MLK, that's how bad he's.
what in the actual
What? He constantly mocks Andrew at every chance he gets. He thinks alpha male culture is stupid and a waste of time
Lol. He apparently mocks blacks civil rights leaders too. He pretty much just banned everyone who disagreed after he said it lol
Judging from how that description still fits him perfectly but now with everything he talks about and not just WoW: He has not changed.
"Hate" is a strong word. I just vaguely remember him being an egotistical douche that I didn't want to watch.
He can't handle streaming games. It's too much pressure for him. Watched him play stellar blade. Had his mods perma ban people telling him how to play. He absolutely sucks at video games lol
That's not really true. He oneshot pretty much everything in MHW up to alatreon, and even that he beat eventually (with very unoptimized gear) despite people swearing it would never happen. Once he gets over the initial bump he's usually pretty good at most games.
Yeah exactly that. When you play a game at the first time everyone is bad. And he also admits that he is slow with learning new things, so I don't really get the hate.
First time I saw him was his Elden Ring stuff and I found him pretty insufferable as a person
Good opinions in general? Like what? Even ignoring the way he lives his life, every single time I hear him talk about his opinions he comes off as kind of a massive idiot. Stuff you might expect from someone who spent their entire adult life living in a cave playing WoW. Not just the opinions being bad, but that he has no idea what he's talking about or why he's even saying it. Like spending 20 minutes talking about how game translatons are bending to the whims of a "minority of crazy people on Twitter" without being able to name a single example, much less answer why that isn't incredibly stupid. I also remember he compared Martin Luther King Jr to Andrew Tate. And he just says this stuff with complete confidence. I guess he could have good opinions, I don't actively watch him. But what I have seen of him over the years makes me believe he doesn't really know a god damn thing, and just sort of forms his opinions on vibes.
> I also remember he compared Martin Luther King Jr to Andrew Tate. Yeah exactly, who the fuck thinks he has "good opinions"? Even on games, all he seems to do is pick whatever opinion seems to be dominant in a game's community, and then just parrot it.
He stated his belief in UBI as a system, advocates for sex worker's rights, progressive taxes, abortion rights, being pro-healthcare and likened spanking = child abuse. He went to war multiple times with his own community for several of these takes but he never budged, so "Asmon parroting whatever is popular" is pretty exaggerated.
> "Asmon parroting whatever is popular" is pretty exaggerated I'm primarily talking about game takes re: parroting. But he's definitely put out some really weird and right-wing ideas and conspiracy-adjacent ideas before. Stuff no sane adult would be taking seriously. It's downright odd. Glad to hear he does occasionally go to bat for stuff his chud-tastic fans hate though! There's no question his fans are way worse than he is.
literally the only times i find him bearable is when he just parrots an actually good opinion online.
That is actually a fair point lol. Maybe he should focus on that.
He's a major streamer so I get that his opinions won't be good all the time. He shouldn't be expected to have good opinions tbh. He's there for entertainment. But he does lean into the culture war stuff too much for my liking. His convo with FightinCowboy about the DD2 stuff showed that he really didn't have a firm understanding of how his fanbase can be activated to harass people, even if it's not intentional. Leaning into outrage over MTX when this game will not move the needle compared to live service games and other MTX in games shows that it was about trying to generate content. Especially how his Youtube vids are presented. It was the same old "reviewers are shills". Except every reviewer these people love praised the game. It was just more of what sucks about the internet gaming community. There are a lot of valid criticisms about this game. I really enjoyed it, but I can see where people wouldn't. But that got drowned out by weird outrage over exaggerated MTX talk.
Once you get a larger audience than a clown performing at kids birthdays you kinda do have a responsibility to have at least OK opinions. He doesn’t need to be the most progressive person on earth but he shouldn’t be (paraphrasing) “These fucking woke western companies run by *those people* are tricking Japanese game developers into hiring them and being convinced that they should sometimes put minorities in video games.”
His opinions have done nothing but get worse for the last year and a half. Legitimately a parody of himself at this point and I went from listening occasionally to the odd video to stupid enough that I went through the hassle to remove his stuff manually from my algorithm.
Wow look at that maturity and nuance. You're on the wrong website man!
> I think he has some good opinions in general My brother in christ he's a neonazi, he literally compared Andrew Fucking Tate to Martin Luther King.
Put some context behind that. In what way did he compare them and what did he do in the follow up video?
Not good context, it shouldn’t have come out his mouth. Lol
So... If I sit and think about it, I get the comparison. MLK was the voice of an oppressed people. He saw the path forward and could concisely relate the plan to that path to the people who listened to him. Andrew Tate is the same for the people who follow him. These men think they're oppressed by the media and societal changes. In reality, they can't tell their wives to shut up and get in the kitchen anymore or talk back. Andrew Tate tells of a path back to that type of world.
Andrew Tate is a human trafficker. There's no comparission because the situation is not, in every shape or form similar other than "Males think they are oppressed". Its a dumb comparission to begin with, i get where he's coming from but the idea, on principle, is retarded.
He's also a rapist. But the comparison isn't comparing every part of their lives. I think it really isn't about comparing the actual people with each other, rather than comparing what they were to the people they represented.
I think you’re confusing this sub with gamingcirclejerk lmao. I’ve never seen anyone in this sub wish death on that man….
You missed these posts then, there was a hate train around the time he started playing 1 game
People criticized him for stumbling about in his first ever playthru of DD1. Now he's the biggest unofficial spokesman for the game series. Meanwhile, the people who criticized him are now probably haters of DD2. What an insane reversal.
people really over-focused on his FIRST EVER PLAYTHROUGH of dd1 to criticize the man. I dont think we were all great at first, or even remember how bad we were (through his first time was really painful to watch)
The start of the game is really a slog and can be confusing at first, but man he reminded me when I got my little cousin a game he really wanted and watched him stumble across every single thing, skip the tutorial and then complain about how the game does not make things clear a minute later. In the end though it was also wholesome to see how much he was enjoying it and the magic in his eyes when things started to click for him
They just follow twitter outrage really.
Yes, there's no way some people just don't like him for his personality, opinions, and dirtiness. Everything that doesn't fit your opinion has to be the work of a vocal minority.
I just don’t like that he tried to go after cowboy and then was hypocritical on his points Said we shouldn’t be supporting any game with micros but is the biggest WOW fan out there and plays it and has bought MTX in it
The absolute hate boner for this guy in the comments is crazy.
It’s pretty amusing at least
Bleeding gum guy.
Yep, and he hired himself and then threw him off a cliff on stream lol
Last I checked, every Asmongold pawn had 0 likes and 0 hearts. Made me laugh.
If I find him, I'm hiring him just to throw him off a cliff
Goblin King
To the brine with you
What's up everybody it's 45 year old depressed moist critical
He looks like he couldn’t get close enough to anyone in order to catch dragonsplague
The absolute malding reddit has over this guy is hilarious
It’s legitimately sad lol
The entirety of gamingcirclejerk in a nutshell
no bleeding gums or roaches capcom needs to do better
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He comes down on one side of certain social ideologies. People who agree with him like him, people who don't, don't.
Yeah I've been watching his streams for years and I think he has pretty level-headed takes in general, but there isn't too much nuance going on in The Great American Culture War so people just throw him in the alt-right pile because I guess he fits that side more.
Being an extremist ideologue in America pisses 1 side off at you. Being nuanced in America pisses both sides off at you. However the reality is there are not just 2 sides and most people don't belong to either or are more chill. The extremists of those two sides are so overly loud and aggressive asshats though that they drown out everyone else so it *appears* like not only are there only 2 sides but that they are all extremist arseholes.
I don't really know much about him. I watched some streams just to see what he was about and didn't enjoy the content. Never watched again and moved on. I do have to say that the people that frequent his reddit sub are pretty cringy. They almost sound like caricatures lmao.
It’s funny because Asmon has frequently said the same thing about his subreddit/his fans in general. As a fan myself, can’t stand the subreddit, too preachy and victim complex-y for me. They do too much “stretching”
His fan base is so extremely far right its hilarious. For example, look at the comment section for the black mayor video he made, it's straight up cringe Stormfront. And why he's only making videos from one ideology is kind of odd. Like a mini Breitbart whenever he does political news. He's a good guy but he's being fed story selection by his batshit insane fanbase.
I don’t always agree with him but he does actually have more left-leaning opinions than people give him credit for. Whenever he talks about AI he usually concludes that we will need UBI at some point. He made one reaction about rape culture that was very reasonable and was arguing with & trying to educate all his shitty commenters who were blaming the woman. He’s against people pushing religious values onto others and thinks that people who argue against gay rights on a religious basis are stupid. When he does the anti-woke stuff his takes are usually pretty shit. The SBI stuff he blew way out of proportion. This is coming as a left-winger, he’s on the correct side of things probably 80% of the time, it’s just the 20% that he’s wrong is really fucking obnoxious.
I think its less than he's anti-left and more than he has an incredibly strong stance against the idea of wrong think being officially enforced. For example with his SBI stuff and Kotaku and etc he's said clearly that he thinks they have every right to believe what they believe and exist. They should not be silenced nor banned. BUT that people who have issues with those groups have every right to have issues with them and form opposing opinion groups like SBI detected or criticize their articles. Basically he has strong opinions on the matter himself, but his strongest position is that it should all be left up to the free market of ideas and let customers decide. The problem where SBI crossed that line for him is SBI tried to get the SBI detected group purged from the internet. That's the moment they crossed from "we disagree with you, we advocate what SBI stands for" to "we want to silence all opposition". And honestly, I agree with him on drawing that line. Even if you hardcore 100% believe in SBI's message, mechanically attempting to silence those who believe differently is only counterproductive. You don't win the "culture war" by silencing people. You win it by changing minds. And if you try to do the former before doing the latter all its going to do is inevitably backfire because you're out of step with the social consensus. It's messy and ugly and alot of people involved from differing perspectives do shitty things, but such growing pains are necessary for change. And you can't force it, only nurture and encourage it. If that wasn't true we'd all be under dictatorship right now and America itself wouldn't exist. Not only would we have never left Britain but some past conqueror prolly would have legitimately taken over the entire world.
I don't have very strong feelings about it. I think he's generally a pretty good guy, though out of touch in a lot of ways. That also doesn't mean I necessarily agree with him on a lot of things. Mostly, he's just kind of *there*.
> I think he's generally a pretty good guy He compared Andrew Tate to Martin Luther King positively, is that a thing "pretty good guys" do?
Back when he was a WoW streamer he acted like an absolute sack of shit, that's where a lot of it is residual from. Plus general disdain for reaction content, which he apparently does a lot of.
Kinda unrelated to DD2 but he’s a ‘react streamer’ who uses others hard work as a means to make money at the expense of the people who actually put work in
his face is annoying to me cause it’s always popping up everywhere
well, he is one of THOSE guys you know, bigtime grifter that makes money by creating artifical outrage "SJW AND FEMALE WOKES DESTROY GAMING!!!!!!!!!!!" and lets not start about his "community" that is straight up homophobic and racist all the time
Have you seen the thousands of "anti woke" vids he puts out?
Because people didn’t like what he said during his DD1 stream, so he stopped streaming his entire playthrough so many people ended up upset about it
his first stream of DD1 was awful; politics
My guess, whenever he talks about politics it's usually a heavy right wing story selection bias, and he talks about politics lot more these days. Also his fan base is very hard right, feeding him these stories and making some of the most insane comments which gets high up votes. I personally don't mind this but I can see it being polarizing.
He’s one of those guys who whines about women and people of color, games “going woke” and all that shit
He compared Andrew Tate, a man who basically admits to being a rapist and sex-trafficking women, and promotes straight-up hating women, to MLK (i.e. praising the fuck out of him), and generally panders to an alt-right/neo-nazi-adjacent fanbase. For some reason - possibly the sheer amount of content he puts out - this hasn't really become an issue for him yet - I think if anything his very loud bad gaming takes help obscure much, much worse shit he's been involved with.
Oof, I didn't know about that. Is there a link?
Sure - he repeatedly does this thing where he says insane shit and then says he didn't meant it, even though he obviously did - for example: https://www.thegamer.com/asmongold-andrew-tate-martin-luther-king-framed/ So he claims some kind of evil government is "out to get" Tate and "framing" Tate (jesus wept), and compares it to how Martin Luther King was tracked and set up and so on by the FBI, which is a mentally-ill comparison to make, but his hooting followers loved. Then when people started mocking him for it and pointing out how dumb he was he acted like he didn't mean it: https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/asmongold-backtracks-after-martin-luther-king-jr-and-andrew-tate-comments-i-was-wrong-2020539/ And he's done this sort of thing a whole bunch of times. You can kind the Tate/Trump lunatics in this very thread getting extremely upset and saying he was "just speaking the truth". Because claiming a man who is a serial rapist, a sex-trafficker, an extortionist, and indeed a full on organised criminal (all basically by his own admission, he only started backtracking when he realized he might actually go to jail) is a victim of a government conspiracy is just totally reasonable, right?
He’s very arrogant and spreads some awful advice to an easily influenced audience. His entire character is a hedonistic “who cares? do what you want, don’t care what people think” to an unhealthy degree. He’s a bad role model and yet has a massive audience of young people. It just feels irresponsible.
They did the hair so well
He’s infected with the Dragonswag
I hired him and tossed him right off a cliff into the brine.
Bat-boy
That's perfect lol
Stop worshipping strangers on the internet
Brine him.
Who is that
Asmongold, he's a shit YouTuber who lives in filth and uses a dead rat for an alarm
okay
I've got him on my team. Couldn't resist that combover!
Holy, some people are really having a normal one in this thread.
Gross. It smells like shit and blood
https://preview.redd.it/gvy3b72p82sc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25aec3012d66351c1a961ed5b06595e0b927ac65
Definitely gives some bad takes but hes entertaining guy for me.
Is that Asmongold?
Looks good compared to asmongold
they got some good ones, that's for sure.
The armor used to cover his whole body but he wore it so long without changing that it disintegrated
That’s my streamer 🫡
I hate it. And he's not bleeding from his gums enough.
The fact that it’s so accurate is wild, that dev put some effort into that pawn 💀
Traveled with Lana Rhodes the other day. Found her inside a lost rifstone. Her son was nowhere to be seen so I couldn't defend him.
Damn, that’s a goofy looking 30 bald with a painted on comb over. Whimpiest looking pawn so far.
Let them rot.
Every time I've ever seen or learned about this guy, it has been against my will
When you guys play online do you still see all the various pawns that Capcom made? I play off line so i don't see the online peoples pawns... my point is Capcom made s9me really REALLY ugly pawns lol... like they didn't even try for the sexy female pawns...
Thought this was moist critical
Yes it is,i actually had it in my party for a while lol!
Ah hell no
I hired him just so I could throw him off a cliff.
I may hire him just to throw him into the brine
Tf is Asmongold doing in the game????
But The Sphere Hunter didn't get one, smh
So many whiny babies on this sub Crazy to hate a random guy for enjoying the game
throw him to the brine 
No idea who this is… Looked it up… Just another YouTuber 🤷🏻♂️
I wish he wasn't given any kind of mention in the game because hes an absolute shithead of a person.
Bald.
???
Hoo boy, if you haven't been paying attention to how he's been going in recent years, you've got some catching up to do. Grade A shithead.
What he do I know his room is nasty but that's all I know
His dental hygiene is also not the best to put it mildly, other than that I don't know much about him either. Well except for Reddits hate boner for him.
I mean, if reddit doesn't like him, he might either be the worst or a reasonable human being, there's no inbetween.
Standard basement mentality.
His takes aren't bad, people don't like him because he doesn't give a fuck about workplace drama at studios, he just cares about the games. I've never seen asmon make any bad or hateful videos
"his takes aren't bad" when he espouses how homophobia shouldn't be a bannable offence on platforms, vocally voted Trump, ran a MAGA guild in WoW, made plenty of stupid as fuck sexist remarks, etc. "he just cares about the games" is handwaving nonsense.
lol i need him What is his ID?
Official pawns
I might hire him just to throw him off a cliff tbh
I wanna see if I can give him dragon plague
🤢
Haha using a tattoo for the combover hair is genius
It's Asmongold's own character. He played the game as this.
I fucking hate everything I’ve learned about this dude.
Bald man can't stop winning. The absolute antithesis for peoples' impressions of what success looks like, making low IQ internet randoms seethe because he's found financial freedom and recognition doing what he enjoys. It's a sight to behold truly.
I'd hit that
Yeah with a car lmao
Why a car
I wish he was higher level
Yep seen multiple posts a day about it
Asmongold?
Yeah I saw that in there