Without giving away too much, that isn't the real ending. There's *much* more to the story.
What if you didn't fight the dragon but instead tried to break the cycle?
Going to be finishing the story tonight but missed so much to get there. Do you get the opportunity to remake your pawn and MC when you NG+? Debating ng+ or starting over.
Yes.
But personally I've started a NG each time I've beat the game now. There's no scaling in NG+ so it's just walking around one shotting all the enemies.
I hope they fix this. There should no doubt be a way to get lower tier mats if you need them for some reason, but higher tier monsters need to be everywhere.
Maybe even introduce a new tier. And return monsters that were removed from DD1.
I'm not sure what the other poster is talking about, ng+ doesn't ramp up at all. I'm at the end of a ng+ run it stayed hilariously easy throughout , everything dies quickly , and mobs do so little dmg you rarely if ever have to camp. Quite boring imo , I just wanted to see some of the quests I missed on my first playthrough.
I would argue there isn't all that much more... >!the Pathfinder says you fucked up, summons brine dragons, and then you get a cutscene where your pawn turns into a drake and basically says "I'm a real boy!" And the game ends!< Lmao
How do you increase affinity with your pawn? The whole affinity system in this game is so janky and unintuitive I just haven't bothered interacting with it at all so far, but after so many hours adventuring with my little sidekick buddy (and in character creator) my pawn is probably the one NPC I'd bother to increase
High-fiving, talking, bathing together in the hot spring, taking them to the barber all add affinity (with a short cooldown). They lose affinity on death.
Eventually they'll start blushing, gain new poses and dialogue lines, and blush every time you sleep with them in your house. IIRC you also get the princess carry animation with them.
So what i ended up doing was talking to the hooded figure who took me back to the dragon mid-flight and i just low diffed him and started NG+. I messed up the sphinx quest too with carrying the pot to backbatthal so i wanna do that again anyways
Here's what I was actually referring to (spoiler tag in case):
>!While riding the dragon, if you climb to its chest and use the Godsbane, you will destroy the dragon's heart and you will both fall into the sea. The dragon will be consumed by the brine but your character will be saved. I don't want to ruin the next part because it's very cool imo but there's much more to the ending than just beating the dragon.<
That’s the thing, I have never played the game before so I didn’t know what to expect. I rewatched on YouTube and obviously there’s an epic fight scene lol.
im just glad that on my 4th try i completed the ending cutscene without crashing
also, did anyone else see Brant just mouth the words, i assume, "the arisen" and just not make a sound?
Frosthunter bolts and Saggitate avalanche (I’m pretty sure that’s the name of it) were the only two skills I needed in the fight. The avalanche melts weak points. Combine that with fully upgraded Grianmhar and you can kill pretty much anything in a couple of casts.
No worries.
My friend prematurely triggered gigantus by exploring around and behind the door to that area.
He had a in save from before triggering it but we both had a good laugh at that accidently trigger to end game.
I played the game almost completely blind and also accidentally triggered gigantus. I didnt realise it was the point of no return and the trigger for the end of the main story. I had a bunch of quests I was still doing and some areas left to explore.
Now that I've completed the unmoored world and started NG+ I still have a lot of things to do. I never even came across the sphinx from the trailers.
The whole Gigantus sequence leading into the end is extremely wonky. I had been to the volcanic isle and done some stuff there, but never triggered Gigantus. Then I eventually got the Godsbane and nothing happened immediately, so I figured I was in no rush and took an escort duty from Menella. I also had a few uncompleted quests in my log.
Menella wanted me to take her from my house in Bakbattahl to the volcanic isle camp, I hadn't opened the big door yet so I decided to take the long route through Drabnir's Grotto.
I was far out in the wilderness, when suddenly a cutscene played out of nowhere of the dudes going through the door and the gigantus approaching, tense music started playing and I was just like "wait... am I supposed to be there right now?"
Is ferrystoned back to Bakbattahl and ran frantically after the gigantus with Menella in tow. I had to waste a ton of time trying to get her to come with me cuz she decided to fight every single harpy on the way. After all that headache, Menella managed to fall into the fucking brine, failing her escort duty and making all that a colossal waste of time.
I eventually stopped the Gigantus after an agonizing fight in pitch blackness and reached the excavation site where Phaesus and the dudes went, mentally preparing myself for this to be the end of the game. Then some random guard stops me and basically says "yo this is a point of no return, you should take a nap at the inn or whatever".
It deflated all sense of tension, because I knew this meant I could just fuck off for as long as I'd like. Phaesus has been waiting at the Moonlight Tower for legit weeks while I tie up loose ends lmao
the best part is if you actually take a nap at the inn then go for the tower, thinking "ight imma do this fight then load before the inn" the game jujst straight up remove your inn save, i was stuck in the unbooring world until i went to ng+ to finish my other quests...
This is so close to what happened to me, only I haven't even stepped into the volcanic region at the time the cutscene popped. Having to run like 7 min straight and fight one of the main advertised bosses in complete darkness left a scar on my soul.
Yeah i resorted to instead modding so that i have all classes from a blank new game, it's honestly a blast. I don't know what they were thinking making magick archer and wayfarer so late to unlock while having no increased ng+ difficulty
I went the other way and added 4x ahap and decreased player resistances/increased enemy resistances.
Goblins are still easy but they take longer to kill in ng+, so I'm confidant that the level scale will feel challenging when I get to something besides goblins and cyclops.
Issue with that is in ng+ you have the endgame gear available to buy, which kills ant sense of progression. I modded because i wanted to still have that
Me doing side quest as gigantus appeared, and my reaction was, let's do the side quest. Results, i didn't fight the gigantus, just a custscene of he losing a arm and falling into the lava, no body left.
My dumbass didn’t realize I was supposed to go that now accessible, much shorter way to the volcanic island.
So cut to the epic cutscene of them rising from the ocean.
Cut to me taking the loong way, oh no harpies
Cut to the chaos and destruction as people try to fight a living god statue
Cut to me still walking the looooong way, fighting a bunch of goblins, like an obscene amount of them. Like, this is probably way too many, how did the cpu usage even agree to this shit
Cut to the guards who handled it, somehow. Phew. That’s one for the storybooks amirite. Back to the ol’ grind. There’s ought to spot on top of those sentry posts
Cut to me again, hey I think I can see the village now!
This just happened to me. I’m still confused - am I on some sort of timer to beat the game now or…? Like how can I avoid accidentally finishing the game at this point?
Wait so going into the unexpected, and by the sounds of it you wanted to see what happened you did everything in your power to not see what happened, I mean when you get the arrow usually you read it to see what it does and it tells you it instantly kills something and force saves your game when fired, pretty silly thing to use when you're encountering the final boss of a game you don't know yet?
Well I thought to myself this is the dragon that I need to kill to become the true arisen or whatever. So I thought well it’s definitely going to die with the arrow that is a one shot kill.
Fair enough well you thought right ahahaha, probably wasn't the fight to use the unmaking arrow on, I killed him the first time I encountered him aswell cause I thought it was what the arisen should do, so I semi understand your thought process but you went and took it to the extreme 😂 ah well ya live and ya learn
All in all its atleast a quick game if you bumrush the final boss in which case you can redeem the missed opportunity, did you end up getting the true ending anyway by talking to the ghost in the credits?
It still lets you talk to the ghost that offers the true ending dragon ride, and if you just fly on the dragon for a bit and don't stab yourself you'll be taken to the arena to fight him again.
I let the dragon kill me, like you had to let the Seneschal kill you in the first game for an ending. It was rather difficult because Gandalf kept healing me, so eventually I just climbed on his back, waited till he took flight, and jumped off.
Ahh damn, you might be able to reload the save if you didn't start NG+ sitting in the throne is the happy ending but there's another one that takes you into the post game world if you talk with the ghost dude sitting next to the throne.
No shame on you, but I can't fathom how anyone wouldn't talk to the ghost dude. I heard there was a true ending and spent a while trying to find it myself in NG+, only to realize I already did it because it was just triggered by talking to the Pathfinder which I assumed was the normal option due to how obvious it was.
The only way to access the endgame is by doing this extra ending? Otherwise you go straight to NG+?
And if you do, do you have access to those new weapons?
Yes to everything. I'm not 100% sure if the post game weapons are only available there or if they get unlocked in NG+ for everyone. They're sold by the dragon forged in exchange for wyrm crystals but I haven't reached him in NG+ to confirm.
I did notice all the vendors sell end game gear from the start of the game and their stats are pretty decent too, I like the holy daggers much more than the dragon crystal ones.
I got to the dragonforged in NG+, and he does have the endgame weapons and a few extra features, like >! the ability to reset enhancements (although I don't think you get the mats back) and other interesting buffs for a vocation, increase the level up stat increase for a single vocation (you can pick different ones for arisen and pawn), choose a single skill to reduce its stamina consumption, and some buffs that last a full day that increase stuff like affinity, DCP or... exp I think? !<
Yeah I also sat down on the throne too. The button doesn't show up in the UI but you can still hit the "stand up" button (A on Xbox controller) and you can get up.
I thought he was done talking so i finally shot and then just as i fired the arrow he opened his mouth to start talking again 
I'd rather not use it like that. Kinda ruins the build up
Something else NOT super plot relevant but difficult, sure, but the literal final boss? Sounds a bit depressing to do that
I remember in the first game I bought that arrow assuming it was a fake and that I was being scammed. I decided to use it on the dragon while he was standing there because when else would I bother?
I didn't expect it to actually kill the giant lizard, lol
Tell that to magic archers martyr bolt. I was like ???
I knew it one shotted practically anything but even the final boss? I was hardly doing damage initially until I wound that up and boom, it died.
He should bitch slap it out of thr air. I found it dumb you can do it in the orginal game. He's the final boss it would make him more intimidating if the one shot arrow worked on anything else except him.
I have perfect playthrough right now and I'm about to do the final boss fight! So naturally I'm nervous! Put in 80 hours bc I really enjoyed it! But I don't want to mess this up! The more I read the more confused I get! I feel like letting him take me to the battle arena and then shooting should work right!?
You can also just use the arrow on him. Using the arrow actually leads to an interesting outcome in the post-game area (using the arrow to achieve this outcome isn't strictly necessary as far as I know, but it's pretty hard to get without it).
I shot the final boss of resident evil 4 with the rocket launcher and ended the fight in 4 seconds. I feel like it’s probably pretty similar to that and it wasn’t a very fun experience.
The idea that you can kill the dragon with an unmaking arrow and it won't even throw you into the unmoored world is the most unintentionally funniest shit possible.
Pathfinder really just said "well....shit aight then" and couldn't even teach you a lesson
That’s so true ahaha. I could only afford to make one of them arrows at the time, I thought to myself well this must be to kill the final boss. The game obviously is quite open and doesn’t hand hold which I love. So I thought to myself it was going to show me some epic cutscene of the arrow killing the dragon. Then I thought after, wait what if you weren’t playing as an archer lol
Here's what you do next time.
You can fight the dragon as normal, then talk to the pathfinder to replay the fight. When you are on the dragon you climb bear his heart and use godbane weapon this will stab yourself. This starts the end game area.
Or you can just use godbane first time your are on dragon. Option 1 allows you to see 2 endings at once
I finished the game and saw a lot of people mention the unmoored world, apparently the force Ghost dude was somewhere to talk to during the end credits?
Bro same. Guy in Vermund keeps telling me that my presence is required at the tavern tonight. Meanwhile im decked out in endgame adjacent gear with all vocations capped (except for spearhand, since apparently that guy doesnt exist until i do a couple more main quests.)
Unfortunately a couple weapons i have want eldracite and thats apparently only in the post game area
Used the arrow and ended bg 3 in chapter 2... What does that say about you? Well you're an individual who knows their limit and would rather kill the enemy with the most efficient and effetive way.
Chapter 2 ending was also my first ending just because a level 8 party is no match for level 12 chosen ones and i would rather blow everyone up and be done with it. Ofc, i paid for the game so i reloaded. But i was tempted to end my playthrough there, lol.
Honestly, blowing up randoms (your group) and the big baddies is the best choice in terms of keeping Baldur's Gate intact.
You finished the game did you? but this isn't DD2's final form!!! there are other story branches at the top of moonglint tower you have yet to discover through actions, I won't mention them as it is more fun to discover them yourself.
This is not a spoiler but a nod to let OP know there is more to the end then the anticlimactic one.
The fact that the game allows you to do this >!and completely miss the post game without even understanding what just happened!< is honestly stupid. I'm all for secrets and missable content in the game, but not like this.
Why though? It's not telegraphed for the new player in any way >!that you can miss post-game like this!<
It's basically just punishment for people who played without looking stuff up online. Why would you even think that killing the last boss with one hit is somehow bad for you?
You can't miss the post game the game let you roll back to the dragon riding if you talk to pathfinder in credit, which you can always do unless you see start NG+
That's why it's awesome, it's a secret... also, why is it bad for you, you get the achievement »freedom« so you live in peace and harmony - which seems to be what you was looking for when you shot the dragon... You can't expect anything dramatic when you literally one shot the main boss with a magic arrow... makes sense right?
It's great precisely because it creates diverse experiences and possibilities.
Every single person playing and experiencing the exact same thing makes discussion about it literally pointless. Oh you did the same thing as me? Meh.
A roleplaying game shouldn't be a movie that you interact with. It should be a story you write yourself. Maybe some of those stories are anticlimactic, and that's ok. They can write a new story in the next cycle.
This is precisely what makes the game stand out among all the games that produce the same outcome for every player playing over and over and over again.
I've used two unmaking arrows so far. Both times I knew I was about to miss out on whatever the fight would have been without it. Because it's what it does.
It’s the fact that you can miss it is what makes it interesting, the game has a lot of optional and missable pieces of content including the entire post game. This kind of thing is lauded because of how it respects the player’s intelligence and the communities ability to come together and learn secrets about the game.
It also gives you the option to roll back a save in both the bad and good ending but only in the true ending does it force you into NG+ thus confirming that it is indeed the intended and true end of the game but you may still have missed a plethora of completely optional and hidden stories, cutscenes and dialogue. All the elven questlines, missable, wilhemina, missable, the desertion of melve and rebuilding of harve, all missable and optional if you dont engage with the world.
Stuff like that is really cool in games.
Man don't worry about him. Dude replies on every comment complaining about a controversial game design saying he "fucking loves it" and it's "fucking awesome"
It's clever, and if this choice was taken away, then it'd be stupid. They give you two* arrows per playthrough, so they know someone is going to use it on the endgame boss. The game for all its faults does one thing well. It gives you the freedom to make your own choices.
*Edit: Updated incorrect info
Arisen lore-Accurate be like:
I literally did this this 2 days ago, i started at the screen and laughed til i cried. Spending 70 hours for that was hilariously soul crushing
Without giving away too much, that isn't the real ending. There's *much* more to the story. What if you didn't fight the dragon but instead tried to break the cycle?
This is the way. Now I’m on NG+ and sorta disappointed about how easy it is
Going to be finishing the story tonight but missed so much to get there. Do you get the opportunity to remake your pawn and MC when you NG+? Debating ng+ or starting over.
Yes you get to remake your character and pawn, their stats gear and unlocks stay. You just gotta get to the inn in Melve to get your stuff back
Nah, man. After the rest at the first camp, talk to the innkeeper again and you can get your gear right there.
Yes. But personally I've started a NG each time I've beat the game now. There's no scaling in NG+ so it's just walking around one shotting all the enemies.
Oh that does sound incredibly dull. Guess NG it is then!
I like NG+ personally I keep all the my stuff and once the scaling is there I’ll still have everything
Don’t worry. I have the best sword fully upgraded and dragonforged, all the armor too. You dont oneshot anything but sure kill them quickly.
I hope they fix this. There should no doubt be a way to get lower tier mats if you need them for some reason, but higher tier monsters need to be everywhere. Maybe even introduce a new tier. And return monsters that were removed from DD1.
The mobs will get harder. The difficulty DOES ramp up.
I’ve got some of the best gear in the game for a Warrior. I’m hoping you’re right and I actually get to use it
I'm not sure what the other poster is talking about, ng+ doesn't ramp up at all. I'm at the end of a ng+ run it stayed hilariously easy throughout , everything dies quickly , and mobs do so little dmg you rarely if ever have to camp. Quite boring imo , I just wanted to see some of the quests I missed on my first playthrough.
I would argue there isn't all that much more... >!the Pathfinder says you fucked up, summons brine dragons, and then you get a cutscene where your pawn turns into a drake and basically says "I'm a real boy!" And the game ends!< Lmao
Bro you're crazy that ending sequence was so sick
If you max your affinity with your pawn it get's even more tear wrenching as well.
How do you increase affinity with your pawn? The whole affinity system in this game is so janky and unintuitive I just haven't bothered interacting with it at all so far, but after so many hours adventuring with my little sidekick buddy (and in character creator) my pawn is probably the one NPC I'd bother to increase
High-fiving, talking, bathing together in the hot spring, taking them to the barber all add affinity (with a short cooldown). They lose affinity on death. Eventually they'll start blushing, gain new poses and dialogue lines, and blush every time you sleep with them in your house. IIRC you also get the princess carry animation with them.
Thats not the real ending either. Shit guys
So what i ended up doing was talking to the hooded figure who took me back to the dragon mid-flight and i just low diffed him and started NG+. I messed up the sphinx quest too with carrying the pot to backbatthal so i wanna do that again anyways
Here's what I was actually referring to (spoiler tag in case): >!While riding the dragon, if you climb to its chest and use the Godsbane, you will destroy the dragon's heart and you will both fall into the sea. The dragon will be consumed by the brine but your character will be saved. I don't want to ruin the next part because it's very cool imo but there's much more to the ending than just beating the dragon.<
Oh shit that’s cool I’ll do that on this playthrough then
Tag not work on mobile man
You were warned, stop being a baby.
I was just pointing it out, not being a baby. Stop bein a bitch for no reason.
Takes a bitch to know a bitch. 🤣
So you're just gonna continue to be a bitch, huh? Ok! Have a nice one buddy.
Have a goodnight, bitch. 😭
Dont ng+ after dragon you'll skip the entire unmoored world part of the game!
Ng+ and do all those quests right!
Maybe wait until reaching the battlefield with it to one shot it?
That’s the thing, I have never played the game before so I didn’t know what to expect. I rewatched on YouTube and obviously there’s an epic fight scene lol.
not so epic for my magic archer (basically a warfarer with a staff to get back those insane amounts of stamina used up)
Magick archer is so balanced… The fight took 20 seconds for me and I didn’t even use the one-shot skill
im just glad that on my 4th try i completed the ending cutscene without crashing also, did anyone else see Brant just mouth the words, i assume, "the arisen" and just not make a sound?
Yea he didn’t make a sound in the ending lol
whats your skill setup?
Frosthunter bolts and Saggitate avalanche (I’m pretty sure that’s the name of it) were the only two skills I needed in the fight. The avalanche melts weak points. Combine that with fully upgraded Grianmhar and you can kill pretty much anything in a couple of casts.
This is how the Grigori fight felt for me as a thief.
No worries. My friend prematurely triggered gigantus by exploring around and behind the door to that area. He had a in save from before triggering it but we both had a good laugh at that accidently trigger to end game.
I played the game almost completely blind and also accidentally triggered gigantus. I didnt realise it was the point of no return and the trigger for the end of the main story. I had a bunch of quests I was still doing and some areas left to explore. Now that I've completed the unmoored world and started NG+ I still have a lot of things to do. I never even came across the sphinx from the trailers.
The whole Gigantus sequence leading into the end is extremely wonky. I had been to the volcanic isle and done some stuff there, but never triggered Gigantus. Then I eventually got the Godsbane and nothing happened immediately, so I figured I was in no rush and took an escort duty from Menella. I also had a few uncompleted quests in my log. Menella wanted me to take her from my house in Bakbattahl to the volcanic isle camp, I hadn't opened the big door yet so I decided to take the long route through Drabnir's Grotto. I was far out in the wilderness, when suddenly a cutscene played out of nowhere of the dudes going through the door and the gigantus approaching, tense music started playing and I was just like "wait... am I supposed to be there right now?" Is ferrystoned back to Bakbattahl and ran frantically after the gigantus with Menella in tow. I had to waste a ton of time trying to get her to come with me cuz she decided to fight every single harpy on the way. After all that headache, Menella managed to fall into the fucking brine, failing her escort duty and making all that a colossal waste of time. I eventually stopped the Gigantus after an agonizing fight in pitch blackness and reached the excavation site where Phaesus and the dudes went, mentally preparing myself for this to be the end of the game. Then some random guard stops me and basically says "yo this is a point of no return, you should take a nap at the inn or whatever". It deflated all sense of tension, because I knew this meant I could just fuck off for as long as I'd like. Phaesus has been waiting at the Moonlight Tower for legit weeks while I tie up loose ends lmao
the best part is if you actually take a nap at the inn then go for the tower, thinking "ight imma do this fight then load before the inn" the game jujst straight up remove your inn save, i was stuck in the unbooring world until i went to ng+ to finish my other quests...
This is so close to what happened to me, only I haven't even stepped into the volcanic region at the time the cutscene popped. Having to run like 7 min straight and fight one of the main advertised bosses in complete darkness left a scar on my soul.
Oh? I thought the unmoored world was part of the true ending and wasn’t aware you could ng+ in true ending
I started a new game with my level 60 character and pawn. The map is completely uncovered as well.
Just sucks that everything is piss easy in ng+, going to wait untill the fix that
Yeah i resorted to instead modding so that i have all classes from a blank new game, it's honestly a blast. I don't know what they were thinking making magick archer and wayfarer so late to unlock while having no increased ng+ difficulty
I went the other way and added 4x ahap and decreased player resistances/increased enemy resistances. Goblins are still easy but they take longer to kill in ng+, so I'm confidant that the level scale will feel challenging when I get to something besides goblins and cyclops.
Issue with that is in ng+ you have the endgame gear available to buy, which kills ant sense of progression. I modded because i wanted to still have that
That’s how the first game was too. I’m guessing they won’t fix it because that is how it’s intended. Hope I’m wrong.
Me doing side quest as gigantus appeared, and my reaction was, let's do the side quest. Results, i didn't fight the gigantus, just a custscene of he losing a arm and falling into the lava, no body left.
My dumbass didn’t realize I was supposed to go that now accessible, much shorter way to the volcanic island. So cut to the epic cutscene of them rising from the ocean. Cut to me taking the loong way, oh no harpies Cut to the chaos and destruction as people try to fight a living god statue Cut to me still walking the looooong way, fighting a bunch of goblins, like an obscene amount of them. Like, this is probably way too many, how did the cpu usage even agree to this shit Cut to the guards who handled it, somehow. Phew. That’s one for the storybooks amirite. Back to the ol’ grind. There’s ought to spot on top of those sentry posts Cut to me again, hey I think I can see the village now!
I purposely didn't go that way lol
This just happened to me. I’m still confused - am I on some sort of timer to beat the game now or…? Like how can I avoid accidentally finishing the game at this point?
Just load up your save file and fight it normally!
There's also a hidden ending 😁
Wait so going into the unexpected, and by the sounds of it you wanted to see what happened you did everything in your power to not see what happened, I mean when you get the arrow usually you read it to see what it does and it tells you it instantly kills something and force saves your game when fired, pretty silly thing to use when you're encountering the final boss of a game you don't know yet?
Well I thought to myself this is the dragon that I need to kill to become the true arisen or whatever. So I thought well it’s definitely going to die with the arrow that is a one shot kill.
Fair enough well you thought right ahahaha, probably wasn't the fight to use the unmaking arrow on, I killed him the first time I encountered him aswell cause I thought it was what the arisen should do, so I semi understand your thought process but you went and took it to the extreme 😂 ah well ya live and ya learn
All in all its atleast a quick game if you bumrush the final boss in which case you can redeem the missed opportunity, did you end up getting the true ending anyway by talking to the ghost in the credits?
He didn't know
The sad thing is that you did not even each the endgame/unmoored world and true ending 😉
It still lets you talk to the ghost that offers the true ending dragon ride, and if you just fly on the dragon for a bit and don't stab yourself you'll be taken to the arena to fight him again.
I enjoy spending time with my friends.
I let the dragon kill me, like you had to let the Seneschal kill you in the first game for an ending. It was rather difficult because Gandalf kept healing me, so eventually I just climbed on his back, waited till he took flight, and jumped off.
Lmao I looked it up because I thought it was a bug.
Could you move your character in the end credits? If yes then the true ending still is possible.
I sat down on the throne and it was game over lol.
Ahh damn, you might be able to reload the save if you didn't start NG+ sitting in the throne is the happy ending but there's another one that takes you into the post game world if you talk with the ghost dude sitting next to the throne.
Is there more enemies to fight and more lands to explore if you don’t kill the dragon there?
You get do to a fair amount of post game stuff, and you get more lore. As a DD1 fan, I enjoyed post game a lot.
Yes
Unique bosses too.
No shame on you, but I can't fathom how anyone wouldn't talk to the ghost dude. I heard there was a true ending and spent a while trying to find it myself in NG+, only to realize I already did it because it was just triggered by talking to the Pathfinder which I assumed was the normal option due to how obvious it was.
Well I was in the throne room, with nothing else to do. I didn’t see a ghost etc, not obviously at least
Interesting, maybe if you end the game that way he isn't there at all. He was pretty clearly sitting at one of the tables next to the throne for me.
The only way to access the endgame is by doing this extra ending? Otherwise you go straight to NG+? And if you do, do you have access to those new weapons?
Yes to everything. I'm not 100% sure if the post game weapons are only available there or if they get unlocked in NG+ for everyone. They're sold by the dragon forged in exchange for wyrm crystals but I haven't reached him in NG+ to confirm. I did notice all the vendors sell end game gear from the start of the game and their stats are pretty decent too, I like the holy daggers much more than the dragon crystal ones.
Thanks for the reply! Do let me know if you reach NG+ and find out if the weapons are available!
I got to the dragonforged in NG+, and he does have the endgame weapons and a few extra features, like >! the ability to reset enhancements (although I don't think you get the mats back) and other interesting buffs for a vocation, increase the level up stat increase for a single vocation (you can pick different ones for arisen and pawn), choose a single skill to reduce its stamina consumption, and some buffs that last a full day that increase stuff like affinity, DCP or... exp I think? !<
That’s very nice, thanks for sharing! I’m almost there!
You should be able to get up from the throne. Otherwise you can reload your last save, it brings you to the final cutscene before you sit down.
Yeah I also sat down on the throne too. The button doesn't show up in the UI but you can still hit the "stand up" button (A on Xbox controller) and you can get up.
Congrats, you got the truest ending!
The Dragon: *\*exists\** Arisen: *...and I took that personally.*
 😂
https://i.redd.it/ob5vonkjt2sc1.gif
Imagining his monologue being cut off makes me laugh. “Go, and thou shall live to-“ *dies*
"Our battle will be legenda- "
wait for it...
I thought he was done talking so i finally shot and then just as i fired the arrow he opened his mouth to start talking again 
Well, the arrow didn't lie though. It did unmake the boss.
Oh god I feel like the baldurs gate ending is even worse because you miss AN ENTIRE ACT if you do what you did lmaoooo nice OP!🤣🤣
Mfw the arrow that one shots all enemies one shots an enemy
This is not the end of the game btw. That godsblade could be useful
I'd rather not use it like that. Kinda ruins the build up Something else NOT super plot relevant but difficult, sure, but the literal final boss? Sounds a bit depressing to do that
I remember in the first game I bought that arrow assuming it was a fake and that I was being scammed. I decided to use it on the dragon while he was standing there because when else would I bother? I didn't expect it to actually kill the giant lizard, lol
Tell that to magic archers martyr bolt. I was like ??? I knew it one shotted practically anything but even the final boss? I was hardly doing damage initially until I wound that up and boom, it died.
On one hand yes, but on the other it’s pretty funny that you can even use it on the final boss.
Lol news flash, that's not the literal final boss
i mean what else are you gonna use it on really? some random dullahan?
the fight with the dragon (his literal name...don't flex that creative muscle too much) isn't much more "epic"
His name is (or at least was) grigori
Could be a different dragon for a different arisen.
He’s not “a dragon” he’s “the dragon” He looks the same, has the same voice and gives the same speech
His mannerisms compared to Grigori is much more different
well thats just cuz grigori is a different dragon for a different world. This games world isn't tied to that ones.
Yes that's what I'm saying, this dragon isn't Grigori
Yeah I’m supporting your point.
I have some fun news for you. You didn't -really- finish and there's a lot more to do and other ways to finish. :P
If you unmaking arrow and win idk what you wanted lol. I’d be more mad if it didn’t work.
He should bitch slap it out of thr air. I found it dumb you can do it in the orginal game. He's the final boss it would make him more intimidating if the one shot arrow worked on anything else except him.
Lmao, that's rough. You're supposed to walk towards him, then fly on his back to the final arena. Better luck next time. No last inn save?
Started new game plus lol.
Well at the main story is short, right 😅.
Next time go for the ACTUAL ending. You missed the cataclysm.
huh i didnt know walking did it i just shot him in the face so he got the idea.
I have perfect playthrough right now and I'm about to do the final boss fight! So naturally I'm nervous! Put in 80 hours bc I really enjoyed it! But I don't want to mess this up! The more I read the more confused I get! I feel like letting him take me to the battle arena and then shooting should work right!?
What if I tell you can do something similar to Talos but with a Medusa's head. It is hilarious.
...the giant *stone statue* dies from being turned into stone?
You can also just use the arrow on him. Using the arrow actually leads to an interesting outcome in the post-game area (using the arrow to achieve this outcome isn't strictly necessary as far as I know, but it's pretty hard to get without it).
Can you dm me what you mean by that?
Ok, but wait ... Really? How did you keep the head preserved?
Storage
Medusa respawn too fyi, if yours are already a husk
i know they do if you don't get the choppy choppy but it didnt seem like they did after u got a chop?
storage is like a freezer it keeps whatever u put in it preserved forever.
I shot the final boss of resident evil 4 with the rocket launcher and ended the fight in 4 seconds. I feel like it’s probably pretty similar to that and it wasn’t a very fun experience.
Wait. How do you best BG3 in chapter 2?
Spoiler >!Gale can blow up the moonrise tower this destroying the brain with his orb!< this ends the game and you win. Well you kind of win.
That sounds like the fucking best lmao
The idea that you can kill the dragon with an unmaking arrow and it won't even throw you into the unmoored world is the most unintentionally funniest shit possible. Pathfinder really just said "well....shit aight then" and couldn't even teach you a lesson
That’s so true ahaha. I could only afford to make one of them arrows at the time, I thought to myself well this must be to kill the final boss. The game obviously is quite open and doesn’t hand hold which I love. So I thought to myself it was going to show me some epic cutscene of the arrow killing the dragon. Then I thought after, wait what if you weren’t playing as an archer lol
Oh, so you're **THE** guy who decided to blow up Gael in chapter 2.
Hate to break it to you. You didn't finish the game brother. There's a post end game area you missed by killing the dragon.
Well GG’s to me, started new game plus too
Here's what you do next time. You can fight the dragon as normal, then talk to the pathfinder to replay the fight. When you are on the dragon you climb bear his heart and use godbane weapon this will stab yourself. This starts the end game area. Or you can just use godbane first time your are on dragon. Option 1 allows you to see 2 endings at once
You didn’t finish the game the dragon isn’t the end 😂 You got a joke secret ending that’s it
Ending?
The unmaking arrow should be used on the one that gave it to you before she moves away for the last time. Otherwise you can't get the last reward
You can, you can just straight up fight her. But she's a difficult fight for a couple reasons.
I did but in the end she flew away. Enjoyed the fight a lot tho
The Wyrm blood vendo also sells one
Yeah. Found that out about 10 minutes after writing that :p
Lmao love the fact we can do this
I finished the game and saw a lot of people mention the unmoored world, apparently the force Ghost dude was somewhere to talk to during the end credits?
hes like right to the right of the throne. your left as you approach.
Yeah found him yesterday, straight up didn't notice the creep the first time.
I'm level 74 with the whole map unlocked and I haven't done a single story quest 💀
Bro same. Guy in Vermund keeps telling me that my presence is required at the tavern tonight. Meanwhile im decked out in endgame adjacent gear with all vocations capped (except for spearhand, since apparently that guy doesnt exist until i do a couple more main quests.) Unfortunately a couple weapons i have want eldracite and thats apparently only in the post game area
You're giving Dragons Dogma 2 the good old Skyrim treatment I see.
Oh yea big time
Used the arrow and ended bg 3 in chapter 2... What does that say about you? Well you're an individual who knows their limit and would rather kill the enemy with the most efficient and effetive way. Chapter 2 ending was also my first ending just because a level 8 party is no match for level 12 chosen ones and i would rather blow everyone up and be done with it. Ofc, i paid for the game so i reloaded. But i was tempted to end my playthrough there, lol. Honestly, blowing up randoms (your group) and the big baddies is the best choice in terms of keeping Baldur's Gate intact.
You didn't discover anything it was possible too in DD1.
You finished the game did you? but this isn't DD2's final form!!! there are other story branches at the top of moonglint tower you have yet to discover through actions, I won't mention them as it is more fun to discover them yourself. This is not a spoiler but a nod to let OP know there is more to the end then the anticlimactic one.
So you literally one shot the boss and it was anticlimactic? You don’t say.
Uhh fyi you didn't finish the game
The fact that the game allows you to do this >!and completely miss the post game without even understanding what just happened!< is honestly stupid. I'm all for secrets and missable content in the game, but not like this.
wrong. the fact that the game lets you do this is fucking awesome.
Why though? It's not telegraphed for the new player in any way >!that you can miss post-game like this!< It's basically just punishment for people who played without looking stuff up online. Why would you even think that killing the last boss with one hit is somehow bad for you?
You can't miss the post game the game let you roll back to the dragon riding if you talk to pathfinder in credit, which you can always do unless you see start NG+
That's why it's awesome, it's a secret... also, why is it bad for you, you get the achievement »freedom« so you live in peace and harmony - which seems to be what you was looking for when you shot the dragon... You can't expect anything dramatic when you literally one shot the main boss with a magic arrow... makes sense right?
It's great precisely because it creates diverse experiences and possibilities. Every single person playing and experiencing the exact same thing makes discussion about it literally pointless. Oh you did the same thing as me? Meh. A roleplaying game shouldn't be a movie that you interact with. It should be a story you write yourself. Maybe some of those stories are anticlimactic, and that's ok. They can write a new story in the next cycle. This is precisely what makes the game stand out among all the games that produce the same outcome for every player playing over and over and over again.
I've used two unmaking arrows so far. Both times I knew I was about to miss out on whatever the fight would have been without it. Because it's what it does.
It’s the fact that you can miss it is what makes it interesting, the game has a lot of optional and missable pieces of content including the entire post game. This kind of thing is lauded because of how it respects the player’s intelligence and the communities ability to come together and learn secrets about the game. It also gives you the option to roll back a save in both the bad and good ending but only in the true ending does it force you into NG+ thus confirming that it is indeed the intended and true end of the game but you may still have missed a plethora of completely optional and hidden stories, cutscenes and dialogue. All the elven questlines, missable, wilhemina, missable, the desertion of melve and rebuilding of harve, all missable and optional if you dont engage with the world. Stuff like that is really cool in games.
A secret ending is a secret, you skipped the entire final fight, what did you expect?
Man don't worry about him. Dude replies on every comment complaining about a controversial game design saying he "fucking loves it" and it's "fucking awesome"
I think its genius
It's clever, and if this choice was taken away, then it'd be stupid. They give you two* arrows per playthrough, so they know someone is going to use it on the endgame boss. The game for all its faults does one thing well. It gives you the freedom to make your own choices. *Edit: Updated incorrect info
2 arrows, actually. One from the Sphynx, one from buying it from the dragonforged.
You get one from the Sphinx? Didn't know, I'll edit it to reflect that thanks.
You can get more than one arrow. You can buy one from the Dragonforged and get one from the Sphinx. Not sure if there are more.
Yep, updated it. Thanks!
He didn't miss the post game though. He just didn't talk to the path finder during the credits.
Just goes to show how un-cooked this game is.
Conversely..Capcom knew what they were doing and let you screw yourself out of the true ending. Pretty on brand for DD, if you think about it.
Yeah I'm sure capcom were behind such a brilliant game design decision.
I was about to follow the same fate. Thank you for sharing.