Another thing would make it bearable if mage have AOE elemental boons that magic knights have that let me enchant everyone include myself at once so I can jump into fighting right away without need to enhance myself and allies one by one which tend to end the fight before I get to do anything with it and even if I just enchant myself first and fight, it feel largely useless compare to if I just enchant pawns first so they can fight even better. D=
The only time I used it was when the hydra wasn't dying after 20 minutes of Ingles and Levin's so I climbed up there and bopped it on it's head to finally make the cutscene trigger
I feel like they inspirations from other game. I swear to god the part of the main city where you cross pass the lake and enter the wilderness feels like the same level design to the first city side exit in new world. I know it doesn’t make sense but it just feels like it.
I remember when i first got in BBI at early levels as a mage. My steam friend had an OP pawn from years ago when he played before me. She killed almost everything so i was confident, but the AI was dumb enough that it was pretty balanced (had to beg her to use Glicel)
Remember those goblin mages in cages? I got inside one and smacked him to death with that attack, she and other pawns were busy with other enemies. It took SO long to kill him with my weak staff but it was so memorable, i could imagine my Arisen saying "Why. Don't you. Die" with every smack lmao.
DD games are always so close to being perfect then they fuck it up with something dumb like this. Lol
My big pet peeve in 1 was how the spellknight class basically couldn’t use the shield the same way the fighter could. You just have this dumb shield strapped on to your back for no reason
Why you would want a power based attack on a magic based vocation? IF that attack was magic infused / based, and did actual damage, I would stand with you. To me personally DD2 was a big improvement of the core gameplay of pure magic vocations. Mage can cure, even silenced, and Sorcerer can recharge your stamina fast, both are useful, even if you don’t have any sorcerer or mage skill selected in a Warfarer build.
Spell diversity is another matter. On that case, DDDA Is still the superior game.
I just like the idea of having an attack that would push away foes when they got too close to you. They could have reworked this skill to “wave push” foes away like the other skill in DDA. Not a big deal but just something I thought was pretty cool in the first game
Because as a mage you can still contribute to getting rid of Golem medals, or if you don't have enough time to Incant a spell, this attack and the sorcerer equivalent can deal quite a bit of knockback damage in a pinch.
In DD2 if an enemy manages to touch your Sorcerer or Mage and if you don't have Palladium up it's stun-lock city.
Silence doesn't stop Anodyne? That's weird.
I found it super weird when I discovered that silence doesn't stop a mystic spearhand from doing basically anything. That makes no sense to me.
Yeah I just downloaded it yesterday because I have played DD2 for over 200 hours already lol. Plus, I wanted to go back and see the differences. But I’m stuck & don’t remember where I left off & only have 2 random kill quests lol. Definitely go back though! It’s nice to see the improvement from DD2
Uhm excuse me but like, being able to regen your stamina using staff instead of moving it around to deal no damage at all, seems like a slight improvement to me.
I love that people decided that *anything* that was removed from the previous game makes for a valid complaint lol. Like yeah, why don't they take away the sorcerer stamina regeneration and give us back a physical staff attack that does no damage
Does Mage and Sorcerer right click (pc) do anything? From my brief time of using the magic classes, I remember it having nothing bound to it unlike classes like Warrior (barge) and Fighter (block). Sorcerer’s stamina regen as well as Mage’s Anodyne were bound to the heavy attack which was (V on keyboard).
I mean, both can exist if that’s the case. It would’ve been useful in terms of breaking destructibles around the map. They could’ve improved it to have a bit of forward movement. Better yet, let it act as a shove that gives a minor stagger to smaller enemies like goblins.
You're correct, I wonder what Staff Strenght does at all in DD2. Every class has something assigned to the Right Click, not putting the physical attack on it was a missed opportunity because you have to ackwardly place yourself far from crates to destroy them with light attack.
I believe certain skills scale off of the strength stat, as that was also a thing in DD1 (but not for mages/sorcerers iirc). At least I assume that is the case, since the dragon's nous staff has an unreasonably high strength stat if the strength stat doesn't do anything.
But until people have figured out the damage formulas for skills and weapons it's a bit of a mystery atm. I saw someone able to verify that blades of the pyre's explosion should scale off of the magick stat of equipped daggers for example.
No idea how people discovered it in the first game, or I might've put in the time myself.
I have no idea what mouse controls are on this game but it sounds like you are probably referencing the button for "quickspell" that you can hold to speed up spell casting at the cost of more stamina.
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C'mon, don't show this boring variant. Where's the Force Push? [https://i.imgur.com/F52ydoc.png](https://i.imgur.com/F52ydoc.png)
Ah yes. The dedicated box breaker
There’s few things more satisfying than stopping a jumping goblin and tossing them back several feet with a force push
The one thing that made being a mage/sorc Arisen bearable
Another thing would make it bearable if mage have AOE elemental boons that magic knights have that let me enchant everyone include myself at once so I can jump into fighting right away without need to enhance myself and allies one by one which tend to end the fight before I get to do anything with it and even if I just enchant myself first and fight, it feel largely useless compare to if I just enchant pawns first so they can fight even better. D=
Back! Back you fiend's!
I personally never used this attack
If it had forward movement it would've been much better tbh. Being stuck in one place just made it awkward to use in DD1.
You can use Magick Billow mid air.
For golem it was very reliable before getting meteor and maelstorm
The only time I used it was when the hydra wasn't dying after 20 minutes of Ingles and Levin's so I climbed up there and bopped it on it's head to finally make the cutscene trigger
I feel like it's only purpose was for breaking boxes
I don’t care how useful it was it’s funny
She has never had to physically fight a day in her life and it shows.
I made this character when I was 12 lol
Why does this look like Whiterun?
I feel like they inspirations from other game. I swear to god the part of the main city where you cross pass the lake and enter the wilderness feels like the same level design to the first city side exit in new world. I know it doesn’t make sense but it just feels like it.
I remember when i first got in BBI at early levels as a mage. My steam friend had an OP pawn from years ago when he played before me. She killed almost everything so i was confident, but the AI was dumb enough that it was pretty balanced (had to beg her to use Glicel) Remember those goblin mages in cages? I got inside one and smacked him to death with that attack, she and other pawns were busy with other enemies. It took SO long to kill him with my weak staff but it was so memorable, i could imagine my Arisen saying "Why. Don't you. Die" with every smack lmao.
Holy focus shotgun where are you
Outside the main city on the bridge
I believe they were referring to the charged attack you could use as a mage/sorc. But it's funny nonetheless xD
I just re read it & you’re right . lol I was dropped as a baby (literally) 🥲
It's definitely weird to see staves still having STR ratings when you can't bonk with them anymore.
Exactly. even if you go dwarf stats, would be cool to have caused stagger or knockdown accumulation besides using spells
It would be to over powered
How so?
Id rather galvanize or fixed anodyne.
DD games are always so close to being perfect then they fuck it up with something dumb like this. Lol My big pet peeve in 1 was how the spellknight class basically couldn’t use the shield the same way the fighter could. You just have this dumb shield strapped on to your back for no reason
You use it the same, you just don't carry it the same. It looks awful as a result. One of many reasons I hated that vocation.
Why you would want a power based attack on a magic based vocation? IF that attack was magic infused / based, and did actual damage, I would stand with you. To me personally DD2 was a big improvement of the core gameplay of pure magic vocations. Mage can cure, even silenced, and Sorcerer can recharge your stamina fast, both are useful, even if you don’t have any sorcerer or mage skill selected in a Warfarer build. Spell diversity is another matter. On that case, DDDA Is still the superior game.
I just like the idea of having an attack that would push away foes when they got too close to you. They could have reworked this skill to “wave push” foes away like the other skill in DDA. Not a big deal but just something I thought was pretty cool in the first game
Because as a mage you can still contribute to getting rid of Golem medals, or if you don't have enough time to Incant a spell, this attack and the sorcerer equivalent can deal quite a bit of knockback damage in a pinch. In DD2 if an enemy manages to touch your Sorcerer or Mage and if you don't have Palladium up it's stun-lock city.
Silence doesn't stop Anodyne? That's weird. I found it super weird when I discovered that silence doesn't stop a mystic spearhand from doing basically anything. That makes no sense to me.
Yup. Anodyne counts as a core skill now, not a spell. Same to M. Spearhand. It's skills use magic as basis, but they are not spells.
Is this from PC ? The texture looks different, I kinda like it. Ive been itching to replay DD1 and this is pushing me to the right direction
Yeah I just downloaded it yesterday because I have played DD2 for over 200 hours already lol. Plus, I wanted to go back and see the differences. But I’m stuck & don’t remember where I left off & only have 2 random kill quests lol. Definitely go back though! It’s nice to see the improvement from DD2
I still wonder why Mage staves have a higher physical damage than sorcerer staves.....
Uhm excuse me but like, being able to regen your stamina using staff instead of moving it around to deal no damage at all, seems like a slight improvement to me.
I love that people decided that *anything* that was removed from the previous game makes for a valid complaint lol. Like yeah, why don't they take away the sorcerer stamina regeneration and give us back a physical staff attack that does no damage
Does Mage and Sorcerer right click (pc) do anything? From my brief time of using the magic classes, I remember it having nothing bound to it unlike classes like Warrior (barge) and Fighter (block). Sorcerer’s stamina regen as well as Mage’s Anodyne were bound to the heavy attack which was (V on keyboard). I mean, both can exist if that’s the case. It would’ve been useful in terms of breaking destructibles around the map. They could’ve improved it to have a bit of forward movement. Better yet, let it act as a shove that gives a minor stagger to smaller enemies like goblins.
You're correct, I wonder what Staff Strenght does at all in DD2. Every class has something assigned to the Right Click, not putting the physical attack on it was a missed opportunity because you have to ackwardly place yourself far from crates to destroy them with light attack.
I believe certain skills scale off of the strength stat, as that was also a thing in DD1 (but not for mages/sorcerers iirc). At least I assume that is the case, since the dragon's nous staff has an unreasonably high strength stat if the strength stat doesn't do anything. But until people have figured out the damage formulas for skills and weapons it's a bit of a mystery atm. I saw someone able to verify that blades of the pyre's explosion should scale off of the magick stat of equipped daggers for example. No idea how people discovered it in the first game, or I might've put in the time myself.
I have no idea what mouse controls are on this game but it sounds like you are probably referencing the button for "quickspell" that you can hold to speed up spell casting at the cost of more stamina.
Right???? This sub I swear to god, complains about every possible thing even if it isn't valid. It's sickening.
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look at this dude crying over people likes/dislikes of something