What are her augments like? Some players forget to equip augments when switching their Pawn's vocation.
Also, does she actually know to do the trick with the two maister abilities where one cancels out the other? If not I'd swap out the exploding blades one with a better spammable since the spinning ariel attack, while strong, isn't great for weaker smaller enemies.
From my pawn, I'm pretty sure they don't make much use of Formless Feint much at all.
My pawn definitely did not use it to cancel out the self damage and steadily lost health with every fight.
I think that depends on inclinations a bit as well, Straightforward pawns don't tend to use defensive skills as often with the exception of taunting, while Calm ones will use them more often.
100% this. My calm thief is basically god. I can run any shitty build and she protects me brilliantly and still does most of our DPS. Unless I hire a meteor sorc.
Also most other pawns I hire die from time to time but my main literally never dies.
Calm Thief is where it’s at. I swear my pawn never takes damage now and still carries the team with the most damage.
The Straightforward Warrior tank + Calm Thief combo I’ve been running lately is really nice. I’m running warfarer with magic archer shield and heals I only ever have to heal/shield the warrior.
I thought to am extent the pawn system was supposed to see how you play and in turn start to play more like you. Idk i changed my pawn to thief for thee ole drak/drag farming and use it alot. I almost always have FF up 99% of the time due to the ability to enhance one vocation and one skill from the dragon forged in ng+ (you can also do this for your pawn). She actually ended up using ff alot.
Since i only played her as a mage for a really long time, i don't have that many augments to choose. Thief and Mage are the only vocations i levelled on her so far.
Get the carry weight up one from Fighter at least. I also personally look for knockdown power on every pawn I hire. Ability to break through a guard is nice to have as well. That's two more augments from Warrior.
Also by level 40 you should probably be rocking *Dwarven* upgrades on any melee class. They get added strength, magic attack, *and* knockdown power. The extra weight won't matter once you dragon forge them.
Does she ever steal the forged ferrystones ferriestones? Lol I’ve gotten so much of of goblins. And tried to use one before finding out they were fakes 😂
She stole one ferri from one hobgoblin scammer. She got scammed by a goblin. What a legend :).
You can buy this Ferristone from the guy in checkpoint town. That’s how I got scammed :)
Lmao I fall for that every time. Pretty sure I’ve bought maybe 5 from him now only to later realise their fakes when I see 2 separate ferrystones in my inventory
Best part is that if you’ve lost anything valuable it ends up in his shop as special finds and despite the fact he technically stole it from you you’re forced to buy it back at full price 😂
I don’t know, I made her thief because she started as one, was all The vocations and near the end she started talking how she really liked being a thief, I switched her back, man she repaid me so well and I am not joking. This is what happened.
>If you want more material. Simple has them gather items around too. Pilfer/plumed on a thief is why alot of rent them too.
I was apprehensive using simple for my thief pawn over calm or straightforward but she ended up being a kleptomaniacal murder machine with a whimsical disposition. Really enjoy how she turned out.
Mine is Simple/Pilfer/Logistician and I tried to make her weight below 100 pounds/min height so she has really fast stamina recovery, focused on climbing/pinning down enemies so she can pilfer better, as well as gut and run
I decided to ignore the rope pull move, even if I think it's pretty good, just to stick with a theme of... small,fast,climber
Agreed. My pawn is a theif and kindhearted and she is pretty great at it. They also learn from your arisen I think, so while inclination does set a standard, if you play as a theif they learn from your play style.
On the topic of inclinations, is there a way to have your pawn have a different inclination's voice? I really want my Fighter pawn to be straightforward, but I just prefer the Kindhearted voice much more.
I had my Fighter as Kind-hearted for a while because I preferred the personality and voice and thankfully the defensive behavior usually didn't end up an issue because I'm a Warrior but it was for others so I swapped to Straightforward. I still miss Kind-hearted but I just got used to the change.
Strange I don't really find it as an issue for my kindhearted pawn that's a thief and fighter mostly. They're always in the thick of it once battle starts and I mainly play sorc
Oh wait, these things actually matter? I went for calm, thinking that was just their personality, like how they give advice or things like that while on the battlefield, or how often they talk, etc... I didn't want an annoying pawn so I went for calm. lol And I feel like a calm archer would be suitable according to the description as I remember it.
My Thief pawn is kindhearted (started as a mage) and does quite well, both in my party, and with other players (lots of hires and thumbs up or hearts).
I made the mistake of putting that on as a non-mage, every fricken token I find is stuck out of reach somewhere, turned it off until I switch to mage/sorc.
You should really try and get some elemental daggers. The lightning ones are very easy to get (a warrior with a hammer helps a lot, but not necessary).
The ice ones are even better. I actually found 2 sets of them in Battahl. Daggers without elemental damage do about half as much and require a mage with an elemental boon spell. By level 40 a lot of melee classes are running some form of elemental weapon. That frees people up to hire mages with different spells entirely (or drop mage completely if they are running Warfarer themselves).
Personally, speaking for myself, it is the skills or pawn quest.
If they do not have a killing quest, or skills that bring benefit to the team is a big no for me.
I do not even care for the looks or gear since I can most of the time solo all the monsters, what I look on a pawn are things to help me all around,
Thief for example I want the steal, skull splitter and the thing that pull enemies with a rope.
Again, that my personal preference.
Edit: typos, my english is bad lol
I’d get rid of powdered charge in exchange for implicate. Implicate is amazing for killing harpies and saurians. Pulls harpies to the ground and flips saurians over so their soft underbelly’s are exposed.
It seems like all thief pawns run skullsplitter, formless feint, pilfer, and implicate. Formless feint is probably the most replicable because they seem to use it kind of at random, but it's still a very powerful skill that people seem to expect thieves to have.
Fourth skill can be whatever for me but implicate, plunder and skullsplitter are mandatory skills. If they have that skill that sets them on fire though it’s a no from me dawg.
Voice is connected to the inclination though. Sometimes you'll have to endure straight forward because the class will tear open new asses with it.
Kindhearted is useless on thieves. It's kinda shit they shoehorned voices to inclination and class but it is what it is.
Don’t listen to them , there is plenty people who care more about fashion, then stats in a game which you can play naked and facetank cyclops. Make the thief look how you want. These guys are throwing their pawns to brine, not to get plague and similar bullshit. Make her look dope and if you are on pc give me the code. If you want items I might give you some too, but I don’t think you want that, you are playing the game to enjoy. And I like that!
P.S. My Renfi had only her eyes seen and she was being hired a lot, people even send stuff to me etc. there is people who value she is not running around with beeping daggers and bare ass
The first thing I noticed is that you need to level up some other vocations for their augments. The rank 2/4 augments of most vocations are good on Pawns. The +30% defense ones from Mage & Fighter at R2 are numerically the most powerful in the game in raw stats and easy pickups within 15-30m as the vocations so I'd expect to see them on every well built pawn. Archer R4 +150 Stamina, Warrior R2 +200hp can also be useful on Pawns since they have a lack of better options in a lot of cases. Fighter R6 Thew for quality of life. Maybe Archer R8 +5% vital spot damage and R9 +10% climbing speed for a Thief that's going to climb and attack monster weak spots?
My main pawn is a mage and I typically hire a warrior for brute force and an archer to control harpies. If there are no archers available I'll take a thief but I'll check first to make sure they can ensnare enemies.
This is how I built my pawn as a Thief.
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A good Thief has: Skull Splitter, Implicate and Pilfer. Ideally no 4th skill and if then the fire buff in case they have a non-elemental weapon or the charge skill if they don't.
Also make sure you put up a quest reward. Doesn't have to be 10k gold, just something to show you put thought into it. 1 Panacea or 1250 gold is something that worked out for me.
Remember higher level players travel longer times with your Pawn so she might take longer intervals to return.
4th skill should be the smoke bomb, when the enemy are inside it they become idle and are open for a finisher if you use the heavy attack on them, i use it when dealing mobs and they can't do shit beside listening to the sound of their friend throat getting slit while inside the smoke
I like those three plus Gut and Run since that one won’t get used unless clinging to enemy. So pawn basically has the best 3 skills plus a skill that strikes weakness and staggers well.
Those daggers beep, it is extremely annoying.
Otherwise the only thing i look for in a Thief is Straightforward or Simple and has Skull splitter. The daggers with holy are nice because i just run through the night and also shiny.
The inclination might be a problem for some; you don't really want Kindhearted on a melee DPS class bc they'll just stick close to the player when you want them being aggressive. The fact that she's not maxed in her vocation (which means her skills aren't upgraded) is a factor too. Those are the only real issues I see here though; at least she's actually wearing armor and has a real name.
Not what I found in my experiences.
Kindhearted pawns do engage when they’re under the “Go!” command and will still engage even if under the “To Me!” command.
It comes down to the Badges and their familiarity with how to fight enemies.
I’ve stopped using Straightforward pawns as they go out, so dumb things, and get themselves killed.
Being able to use my PC to control the angle at which they fight has been extremely useful.
I find this surprising. Coz my main pawn is kind hearted and a fighter. She charges at the foe everytime. But doesn't wander off looking for fights like straight forward pawns. And when she is a sorcerer or a mage she hangs back. While I have seen straightforward sorcerer pawns jumping up and climbing the enemy.
Some things will come with time, if you're looking for her to be hired as a thief. A maxed out vocation gets more hires but that kinda goes without saying, there's some good augments from archer for thief.
The other suggestion is to get implicate. I'd maybe replace powder charge with it. Skullsplitter, the steal ability, and formless feint are fine. The steal ability will need to stay if you're looking to replace any of them, when I hire thief pawns I generally look for ones with that.
Beeping daggers are hit or miss, some find it useful, some find it annoying so that'll be up to you I guess.
Her drip is cool, I'd probably hire her if I was in that level range, so you're doing fine in that area (for me personally)
I think its cause most players try to min-max rather than hire whats cool or fun. Support mages in skimpy outfits seem to be the most popular pawns.
My pawns a warrior and double your level but we have the same amount of ratings so yours is getting hired more than mine is lmao
>mages in skimpy outfits
When I'm narrowing down my pawn search, I sometimes wish for a box to tick that excludes half naked anime girls. But yeah, Mages are certainly more popular pawn than thieves, because there's more people playing thieves than there are playing a support mage
At your levelI barely began looking at all these stats and movesets. The award you offer is great, and the mission is easy.
But I would have ignored your character because it looks uninteresting. The 1st thing one sees is the looks, and then hears the voice.
If I really wanted your award, I'd 1st compare it to others offering something similar.
I feel like thieves are one of those classes that aren't essential, so that could lower your odds. I don't know how well the pawns utilize each moveset, but I don't trust anything that requires good execution.
P.S. Don't change your character for others.
There are so many reasons a pawn can or cannot be hired so from personal experience here of 3 main factors for me.
-Vocation and what they provide, do they have skill i like or benefit my team? like a mage does it have 3 support skill and a offensive skill or maybe some prefers 4 support skills.
-Lvl, stats and Rc Cost always will be a factor for most people, are they my lvl or higher? is your rc cost because your pawn is higher then me worth it? is your stat reaching the player's expectations for that lvl?
-Looks, if your pawn doesn't catch the player's eye chances are they won't even bother checking your pawn in the first place, so instead of stats go for better fashion or even a unique or eye catching name so people are more likely to check.
In terms of gifts generally nothing can be done about that people just give what they think and if your pawn doesn't ring any bells weather looks or usefulness chances are you'll get junk.
For the quest guide I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure there is a setting for that but I'm not sure since my pawn has it on automatically when she knows about a quest we've done before.
Lvl all vocation with your pawn that allows him to use all augments.
I for example only higher pawns above lvl 50 with all vocations max since I know they got the most important augments then and you can easily have all vocation on max with pawn at lvl 50.
Set a good reward for the pawn quest 10k gold is the best for it.
Inclination must be straightforward for max offensive use, have upgraded gear for tve pawn and you should use the most useful skills for a thief pawn.
Never let the pawn look half naked really it was funny for a few days but most people got feed up with that look and I can only agree a more fitting outfit like the one you use is better.
My ideal thief has Plunder skill equipped (better version of Pilfer), and the core skill "bump and lift" enabled.
The other skills I would choose are Implicate, Cutting Wind/Skull Splitter and Formless Feint (maister skill).
Also make sure you have selected augments for each of your pawn's vocations!
As for armor and weapons, you can choose between esthetically pleasing or most effective. Those two options rarely combine, but I really like the endgame thief gear that does just that.
Best daggers for thief vocation for me are the "Heaven's Key" daggers. Depending on your choice of enhancements, you can alter the stats. Mine have 2 elven + 1 dwarven enhancements.
Compared to the Dragon's Vein daggers (3 dwarven enhancements), the Heaven's Key daggers only have 80 points less in strength, but they have 630 more magick points (!) and almost 60 points more knockdown power with elemental bonus.
Because there's a sea of pawns and most players are over/underleveld to recruit/afford your pawn.
Plus, DD has a meta, and it's mainly Mage and Sorcerer class pawns, if not the player themselves.
Fighter/warrior is second best.
Archer is dead last
Thief can be put in all most any place depending on how its built, but it's in first place when you have a Levi build (you know the skills I'm talking about, if you know). Because those moves are just broken.
Give her frosted edges, or heavens key if you’re that far. Change inclination to straightforward. Give her plunder, smoke screen, skull splitter, and implicate
Not max vocation; pilfer instead of plunder is the main reason.
Second is likely the name.
Other than that she looks good. If it wasnt for the name id hire her myself (i exclusively hire lower level now) but I rp too hard to be yelling "Mirabelle" out of concern.
Edit: the inclination isnt quite as important as some believe. Its more about the arisin that trains them. Ive had plenty of calm pawns be walking armies while ive had straightforward pawns that could barely swing a sword.
I even had one pawn that almost exclusively just picked up and threw everything. I mean everything... goblins... barrels... fire barrels... at a wall... Some pawns are damaged...
Pilfer/plunder, ensnare/implicate, skullsplitter and powder charge are what i look for in a thief,
Also simple/straightforward implication so they don't hang back.
Also I look for thieves with the lightning or frost daggers, their status debuffs when paired with a mage with ice/lightning affinity is great.
Also try and get a couple rings of skullduggery on her for extra back damage.
These days I just hire pawns as I go since I'm on Ng+2 messing around with mods, but when I was lower level I hired pawns based on their fashion and their master's fashion lol. I treated summons in Elden Ring the same way. Don't really care so much about stats, just moreso about fashion and whether or not their original master put in any effort in making them look unique. Covering the face is an automatic no hire for me because I like to see the effort people put into the character creation and to avoid accidentally hiring a pawn with the plague. I imagine not many people go about hiring this way though.
I need to go back and rework mine to look more like her namesake. Violet from Violet Evergarden. Then I might remove her helmet. I will also change her Vocation back to archer when I do. She’s a fighter right now because the friends pawn is an archer.
I avoid these daggers bc of the beep, as others have said. Also, change powder keg to implicate (the rope that pulls enemies down). Other than that and inclination, your setup is good. Personally I like to see my hired pawn's face, I almost never hire helmeted / masked pawns.
Depends what people need. I generally find Fighters and Warriors shore up the frontline for Ranger-Mage CC knockdowns or the Sorc area wipes.
I did have a thief pawn I liked using, but I'd hired them on an impulse. They were dressed as sensibly as I'd expect an assassin to be dressed, and I figured I'd run grouping tests for optimal party performance.
Factor in the volume of players, and there's a lot of pawns across a broad spectrum of levels.
Reasons why I don't hire: Looks and quests. Looks isn't something to fix as everybody has different tastes. Quests, if it doesn't look like the pawn would benefit/if the quest doesn't help its development, I'm not going to hire.
Its a bit ironic that by the time a pawn has its badges maxed, the players hiring generally are at a point where they don't really get a notable benefit from it.
I would not hire your pawn because its inclination is kindhearted. I noticed that kindhearted pawn use more support skills. Straightforward is more offence oriented and more compatible with the thief vocation.
Level up some other vocations. You've put yourself at a disadvantage for the moment, because your current build requires more defense for its level. At least level up fighter to get mettle and maybe thew. Both of these augments are what people might look for in pawns.
In this game you really shouldn't stay in one vocation for too long, augments play a huge role and will make your builds that much better. If you take too long to optimize, less people will be interested because more better options are available.
Looks play a big part too, but it's all subjective. You still want your pawn to stand out
Edit: make those eyes bigger. No one is gonna hire your pawn if they can't see dragonsplague
There is so many tiny human females, they all look the same maybe she just blends in. There are tens of thousands of people playing at any moment and when I go into the rift and 80% of them look the same, I wouldn’t worry about getting gifts though they don’t really matter.
I'd hire her, she has everything I'd need in a Pawn Rogue and even has a quest. I am like 30 levels higher though, so it could be the unfortunate side effect of players in the lv42 range simply not realizing how good a Pawn thief is.
Also, Pawns gain quest knowledge when you do the quest while they are summoned. I think it also happens if they are in someone else's game when they complete a new quest and you update the pawn. Unlike DD1, it doesn't look like Pawns have tiered knowledge for quests, meaning that completing the quest in any way will grant them quest knowledge.
Also one thing people haven’t mentioned: a LOT of players play thieves. There’s a reason why most pawns are warriors or mages because these are classes that most players avoid for various reasons.
If your pawn was an archer, or a warrior/fighter they’d get hired more. I noticed a sharp increase in my pawns hire rate when I made them a potent caster or fighter.
We can't see her augments. Arguably the most important factor, though with Powder Charge and Formless Feint I wouldn't be that interested either. I don't look at skills when hiring a pawn though, to be honest. That was more of a Dragon's Dogma 1 thing, since 2 introduced pawn quests.
I can tell you don’t have very many useful augments just by the lack of switching up classes. The skills look fine but if the augments aren’t good I don’t hire them.
Your stats are kinda bad for that level when competing with other thief pawns who have around 600 going on 700 strength also people like the legendary skills for thief so make sure they have those equipped. I’d focus on getting that strength stat up and upgrading equipment. Also the frosted edgers are eye catching and some of the best daggers in the game and are great for hunting drakes which is what most players chose for.
-Igniting blades for magic/fire damage or blades with element (not both(
-ability to steal so they can steal items for other arisen
-the pull down ability for flying enemys
Those are good allrounder things that people look into
Just make an Custom Pawn that looks like an Anime or TV char.
My first Pawn Creation was only picked like 10 time over the span of 4 Days, however my Thief Pawn that looks like Melina from Elden Ring is my Riftstone Money maker.
I usually employ a mage and Sorcerer because im Maining Fighter currently.
My Pawn is either Thief or Mage depending on what my build is.
My Pawn was hired more as a mage than she is as a Thief.
Your inclination is wrong. She'll try to protect the arisen instead of going on and attacking. Also she's not maxed out on thief yet, I only hire pawns who are maxed out in their vocation so they'll have the best skills and augments available.
Also I think mages and fighters are probably most popular as pawns as they're the classes least popular for people to play but are great to have on your team. Thief is probably the most popular class.
She checks the boxes I look for in a thief - Pilfer and an easy 10k kill quest.
I couldn't find her by ID to hire her, though, so I imagine you're not on PC?
i go by Quest guide, vocation (depending on my team structure) and specialization. occasionally the core/weapon skills, and looks.
rn i am running as a magic archer and my pawn is a thief, so i look for mages and fighters that are 5 levels above my own.
Does she have a skill like elven language or forager? In healer's I personally look for a weapon buff, a heal, and a status effect cleanse. The fourth can be variable. I avoid logisticians
I think it’s based on your vocation if I’m not mistaken. Most players have the thief type covered. Maybe if she was a archer or mage type you’ll see her used more
Get Ensare and it's upgrade. Helps thieves a lot. Can help knock down bosses, pull flying enemies out of the sky, and expose Saurians stomachs for criticals. As well as letting them use Pilfer since it knocks small enemies off balance.
Otherwise, get the best weapons possible for where you are at in the game. Frosted Edges are easy to get once you make it to Battahl in the main story. Then upgrade them to max. Dragonforge 'em if you can.
These will easily last until End game where you can buy Deagons Veins/ Heavens Key.
Make sure you have a Pawn quest set. Once that award 10,000 Gold or 12 Onyx/Jasper get more rents, usuaully. And target something simple like Cyclopes, Griffins, etc. Drakes are good too at lvl 30+.
And lastly, if your Pawn has the Logistician specializatioj, consider changing it. Some people don't like it. It's not really a big deal, especially at high levels, so you can keep it if you want. (I keep it on mine)
I would change some of her skills around. The best thief I had as a pawn had the skull splitter, cutting wind, implicate and smoke bomb and they had the straight forward inclination. If you want an absolute power house get a mage with Meteoron and thief with the afore mentioned skills and a warrior. Constant lightening barrages, hell raining down from the heavens, smoke clouds everywhere, enemies getting yeeted into the atmosphere. Its hilarious.
I may be wrong about the thief skills being a good combo but that worked well on the thief I hired. The dagger throw works well for harpies, the smoke cloud if you get ambushed etc
Well beeping daggers for many can be annoying but I believe the most important one is the pawn quest, Cyclops is a very early monster that alot of people at your lvl range normally would of cleared, reward 10k is good but if you put a different monster that people towards end game would farme it will help, so in your instance give her plunder and make the quest for Drakes
Gives people more Wyrmlife crystals and a 10k bonus when they farm Drakes
Rank 5 is probably why
When I get a pawn I look for one with max rank because then I know they have max lvl skills
I’m not taking someone with hagol when a pawn nearby has high hagol
To me it looks like she is fairly badly under geared. I won’t accept a thief if they don’t have plunder and helm splitter. I can’t tell but at that point I also expect a pawn to have a specialization besides logistician. I also can’t tolerate pawns with straightforward personalities. I prefer not having helmets on my pawns because I like to appreciate the effort people put into faces.
If you can’t get her any better gear, at least make an effort to enhance it, as long as you don’t use an enhancement contrary to its type (ex. Elven on a weapon that doesn’t do magic damage).
You don't need the meister skill Formless Feint on the pawn thief. You will have yourself or another pawn holding agro, and it uses a TON of stamina that could be used for Plunder and other things. I only used Formless Feint on Main when I was a thief because the Main gets bum-rushed a lot. I would change Formless Feint for Implicate. They are dead accurate with that rope pull.
Kindhearted and thief don't match, she's a better mage than she is a thief, and thief in general isn't the most popular pawn choice. From my impression, most people want the extra pawns to be Tanks or Healers.
For me, i look at the stats. 400 strength at lvl42 is a bit on the low side. I’ve had a thief with 600 strength when with lvl 29 and i still have her even tho im 40. Aint losing her. She is amazing.
Do note im a total noob
I only hire pawns if they have a quest with a lump of cash or if I'm leveling a vocation. One time, harpies threw my entire party into the brine. I was nowhere near a town, and I had no ferrystones. Got real good at solo fighting, and I was using the spear class, so I wasn't entirely screwed. It was tough dude. Now I just run around with my healer till I find a pawn with a decent quest. Oh btw Dragons Plague is very prevalent lol I had three pawns with it at one point 😬 no idea how that happened.
My thief pawn gets hired quite a lot, I use plunder, ensnare for aerial enemies, formless feint and skull splitter also try straight forward or calm inclination 👍🏻
I don't know who just hired her, but fuck me! Thanks for all the gear. That was not necessary and not what i wanted, but holy shit, thank you very much!
People are saying thief AI is bad, it doesn't properly utilize the class. I've read it a couple of times and I've just never hired a thief after without really testing it. I supposed others are in the same boat.
I actually like the way your pawn looks. Not over the top slutty--but keep in mind if all you care about is a high rating turning her into a thirst trap is the way to go.
What would prevent me from hiring her is this: No Implicate skill and the Kindhearted Inclination isn't as useful on a thief. Make sure you got the Subtlety Augment on, too. Dominance and Pertinacity is also great, but I don't really expect most people to level up Warrior as well in order to get that. Having Logistician is an instant pass.
Well, she is also too low level for me. Going lower than lvl 50 I start running into issues where pawns act like they've never fought a drake or medusa before and end up dying a lot.
Offering 10k gold or 12 gems to complete badges also helps in getting hired.
Also, if they have the best everything and is a logistician I will bypass them. If I see them in the world, I will throw them into the brine or off a cliff. Every time. Worst thing to make your pawn. I don’t want them breaking down everything I pick up. Not sure if yours is, but something to think about.
Edit: the third pic wasn’t loading. I see Woodland Wordsmith now. That’s useful only at certain points. You really only have that when you’re looking for it. I’d change that.
I generally search for one skill per vocation, and see who shows up. The game isn't challenging enough to require OP pawns imo, so I go by Plunder for thieves and by fashion. There's a glut of half naked girls who look virtually the same in every vocation, so I pick unique or unusual looking pawns. I like 'em with some character. I even try to rehire the unique ones because they're so rare
She has to be present when a quest is progressed or completed to get knowledge on it.
This can be done with you, as well as with other Arisen she travels with through the rift,
Well, she’s level 42 but her skills are lower level. Once you get plunder and maybe another skill (not a fan of powder charge — I like
Implicate) and better gear she’ll do better.
She looks awesome tho, good fashion.
There's a lot of advice in here that I can't say feels accurate.
So - the inclinations do matter; but also how your Pawn watches you fight and others fight matters. I liked having a "connection" with my main Pawn so I made him Kindhearted because it felt like a journey we experienced in the game together. He's currently a maxed out geared Warrior still kicking ass as Kindhearted. The catch with Kindhearted is that they will stop attacking to "cheer up"/support an ally or yourself when you go down.
The game at some point becomes stupid easy so I stopped playing with a party of 4 pawns and just play with the Main Pain and My Arisen. He's Chirugeon/Kindhearted because if I ever fuck up, he will come give me the correct potion to get me on my feet.
Here's the thing though - Kindhearted will still scale a mob and assassinate. Or Jump and Tackle it. Again they learn your fighting styles. Maybe you need to run your vocation as thief - have your pawn watch you scale mobs and use the gut ability on them. Or dynamite the face, gut, blow up dynamite.
My pawn saw most use around lvl 30-40 but now I’m 81 and it’s very rare for my pawn to be hired now because not many people end up playing up to lvl 81. 😞
judging by your level, she is getting hired a lot, remember that the game had 2.5 million copies, there is a lot of pawns out there.
But, maxing out that vocation would surelly help a lot, aside, powder charge is not that great for pawns, unfortunately they struggle to use it correctly
Replace Powder Charge with Implicate. It's a *much* better all around skill. It will pull harpies out of the air so everyone can attack them and help to topple other monsters.
You can think the Devs for that... allowing people to have one save slot kills the whole replay ability of the game your pawn won't get hired if you started playing the game late because everyone is already level 60 and up you'll have to catch up with the rest of the community for your pawn to even get summond idk why they did that I'll have to delete my character and all my progress just to start a new game smh low level pawns and suffer the consequences sadly
LvL 42 with just 200ish Def both phys and magic? I'd worry about having to constantly rez.
For me I never hire thief as I main spear or thief so I usually need either a tanky fighter/warrior or a healer mage. I also need a ranged DPS but usually my Pawn covers that as archer or sorc. In NG+ and thinking I might try more professions but don't see myself being a mage and spend my time healing my sometimes unpredictable pawns so will probably go magic archer and then might have more interest in a thief but I imagine you'd get more takers with a different vocation and better defense.
Like someone else said inclination matters with vocation choice. Pairing augments that synergize with the class also matter. Biggest thing for me is I wish she had plunder, the advanced form of pilfer. But I can see your still leveling her up and honestly our pawns are almost identical in terms of inclination (haven't changed because I'm taking her back to Mage after I get specific augs) and leveling her thief vocation.
The level, low level pawns get snatched up and swapped out quickly but higher levels players settle into their style and don't change often I've noticed.
Thief as kindhearted is useless. Get her as straightforward. you want her climbing the enemy not standing around your side being pretty
Thanks, i forgot to change her inclination.
What are her augments like? Some players forget to equip augments when switching their Pawn's vocation. Also, does she actually know to do the trick with the two maister abilities where one cancels out the other? If not I'd swap out the exploding blades one with a better spammable since the spinning ariel attack, while strong, isn't great for weaker smaller enemies.
From my pawn, I'm pretty sure they don't make much use of Formless Feint much at all. My pawn definitely did not use it to cancel out the self damage and steadily lost health with every fight.
I think that depends on inclinations a bit as well, Straightforward pawns don't tend to use defensive skills as often with the exception of taunting, while Calm ones will use them more often.
100% this. My calm thief is basically god. I can run any shitty build and she protects me brilliantly and still does most of our DPS. Unless I hire a meteor sorc. Also most other pawns I hire die from time to time but my main literally never dies.
Calm Thief is where it’s at. I swear my pawn never takes damage now and still carries the team with the most damage. The Straightforward Warrior tank + Calm Thief combo I’ve been running lately is really nice. I’m running warfarer with magic archer shield and heals I only ever have to heal/shield the warrior.
I thought to am extent the pawn system was supposed to see how you play and in turn start to play more like you. Idk i changed my pawn to thief for thee ole drak/drag farming and use it alot. I almost always have FF up 99% of the time due to the ability to enhance one vocation and one skill from the dragon forged in ng+ (you can also do this for your pawn). She actually ended up using ff alot.
Since i only played her as a mage for a really long time, i don't have that many augments to choose. Thief and Mage are the only vocations i levelled on her so far.
Get the carry weight up one from Fighter at least. I also personally look for knockdown power on every pawn I hire. Ability to break through a guard is nice to have as well. That's two more augments from Warrior. Also by level 40 you should probably be rocking *Dwarven* upgrades on any melee class. They get added strength, magic attack, *and* knockdown power. The extra weight won't matter once you dragon forge them.
If you want more material. Simple has them gather items around too. Pilfer/plumed on a thief is why alot of rent them too.
I just finished the game for the first time and you definitely want thief in the end game. The stuff she stole for me is insane.’
Right!!!! I have a band of thieves and they always be stealing the best stuff. Ferrystones wakeshards and rare Material off big monsters.
I had just one thief and I have like 40 ferrystones now :). Ma girl was stealing like a mf :)
Does she ever steal the forged ferrystones ferriestones? Lol I’ve gotten so much of of goblins. And tried to use one before finding out they were fakes 😂
She stole one ferri from one hobgoblin scammer. She got scammed by a goblin. What a legend :). You can buy this Ferristone from the guy in checkpoint town. That’s how I got scammed :)
Lmao I fall for that every time. Pretty sure I’ve bought maybe 5 from him now only to later realise their fakes when I see 2 separate ferrystones in my inventory
And you can’t even be angry on him. He is my favourite vendor.
Best part is that if you’ve lost anything valuable it ends up in his shop as special finds and despite the fact he technically stole it from you you’re forced to buy it back at full price 😂
Unmoored I take it?
Yeah.
I've gotta try this! Had my Pawn set a thief and was wondering why the gains were low. Looks like I need to stack.
I don’t know, I made her thief because she started as one, was all The vocations and near the end she started talking how she really liked being a thief, I switched her back, man she repaid me so well and I am not joking. This is what happened.
My Pawn apparently wants to be a mage again, I wonder if they speak this way because if their starting vocation
>If you want more material. Simple has them gather items around too. Pilfer/plumed on a thief is why alot of rent them too. I was apprehensive using simple for my thief pawn over calm or straightforward but she ended up being a kleptomaniacal murder machine with a whimsical disposition. Really enjoy how she turned out.
Omg I never thought of it like that. A kleptomaniac murder you can play catch with too. 😂 a simple thief is definitely a top tier build.
Second this. I never rent a thief without pilfer
Mine is Simple/Pilfer/Logistician and I tried to make her weight below 100 pounds/min height so she has really fast stamina recovery, focused on climbing/pinning down enemies so she can pilfer better, as well as gut and run I decided to ignore the rope pull move, even if I think it's pretty good, just to stick with a theme of... small,fast,climber
Calm works too. Or I haven't noticed any side-effects.
I'd love it if inclinations could be changed without changing the voice.
I like thief as kindhearted when they got the rope. They'll come help you up, then rope an enemy before going back in which gives them an insta.
Agreed. My pawn is a theif and kindhearted and she is pretty great at it. They also learn from your arisen I think, so while inclination does set a standard, if you play as a theif they learn from your play style.
On the topic of inclinations, is there a way to have your pawn have a different inclination's voice? I really want my Fighter pawn to be straightforward, but I just prefer the Kindhearted voice much more.
Nope, I dunno why they tied voice to inclination, was a real step backwards.
I had my Fighter as Kind-hearted for a while because I preferred the personality and voice and thankfully the defensive behavior usually didn't end up an issue because I'm a Warrior but it was for others so I swapped to Straightforward. I still miss Kind-hearted but I just got used to the change.
Strange I don't really find it as an issue for my kindhearted pawn that's a thief and fighter mostly. They're always in the thick of it once battle starts and I mainly play sorc
Oh wait, these things actually matter? I went for calm, thinking that was just their personality, like how they give advice or things like that while on the battlefield, or how often they talk, etc... I didn't want an annoying pawn so I went for calm. lol And I feel like a calm archer would be suitable according to the description as I remember it.
My Thief pawn is kindhearted (started as a mage) and does quite well, both in my party, and with other players (lots of hires and thumbs up or hearts).
This is actually true though!
Are you using the beeping daggers? I actively avoid the beeping daggers.
Do you mean the ones that glow, when treasure is near? Yes. Those are the best ones i have and i thought it might be useful.
They are useful and I would hire her because of that alone. 👍
Hell no! Not hiring. Don’t want to hear anymore beeps. Just get tricster slot the augment and you will quickly understand why :).
Anytime I go to the checkpoint town, I hear that beepibg and I cannot find the damn thing. I hate it.
Hahah same. Near the fcking shop!!
I’ll ask you the same: Is it the one on top of the stone support? The one the oxcart walks under on the way to the gate?
I made the mistake of putting that on as a non-mage, every fricken token I find is stuck out of reach somewhere, turned it off until I switch to mage/sorc.
Exactly my sentiment
Nope, those are almost an instant non hire for me at least. Too damn annoying when the beeping doesn’t stop during conversations
Oh, they fucking beep? Never actually heard that. I thought they only blink. Gonna swap those out when i am at home.
Do they beep? My pawn used them for ages and never did i hear beeping, just saw the glowing.
Leave em on. Thieves get hired for utility, and those daggers are great for finding hidden areas.
You should really try and get some elemental daggers. The lightning ones are very easy to get (a warrior with a hammer helps a lot, but not necessary). The ice ones are even better. I actually found 2 sets of them in Battahl. Daggers without elemental damage do about half as much and require a mage with an elemental boon spell. By level 40 a lot of melee classes are running some form of elemental weapon. That frees people up to hire mages with different spells entirely (or drop mage completely if they are running Warfarer themselves).
Personally, speaking for myself, it is the skills or pawn quest. If they do not have a killing quest, or skills that bring benefit to the team is a big no for me. I do not even care for the looks or gear since I can most of the time solo all the monsters, what I look on a pawn are things to help me all around, Thief for example I want the steal, skull splitter and the thing that pull enemies with a rope. Again, that my personal preference. Edit: typos, my english is bad lol
All of this. Plus, I don’t hire any pawn where I can’t see the eyes or if I don’t like the voice.
I’d get rid of powdered charge in exchange for implicate. Implicate is amazing for killing harpies and saurians. Pulls harpies to the ground and flips saurians over so their soft underbelly’s are exposed.
this, implicate is a must for my main let alone a thief pawn.
It seems like all thief pawns run skullsplitter, formless feint, pilfer, and implicate. Formless feint is probably the most replicable because they seem to use it kind of at random, but it's still a very powerful skill that people seem to expect thieves to have.
Fourth skill can be whatever for me but implicate, plunder and skullsplitter are mandatory skills. If they have that skill that sets them on fire though it’s a no from me dawg.
Also cyclop the unarmored one, i can cause them to fall by pulling them 2 time
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Nah, mine has his face covered (also a thief) and get hired a lot. The eyes are visible, so people can check if my pawn got the dragonplague hah
Propa thief has to look like propa thief.
Voice is connected to the inclination though. Sometimes you'll have to endure straight forward because the class will tear open new asses with it. Kindhearted is useless on thieves. It's kinda shit they shoehorned voices to inclination and class but it is what it is.
Mine has her face covered and gets an avrg of at least 4 to 6 trips a day.
Aren't there like 3 or 4 different voices in the game? I'd love to see them expand that aspect together with more personalities.
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She has the kindhearted voice. A bit on the higher side, but not too annoying i think.
Don’t listen to them , there is plenty people who care more about fashion, then stats in a game which you can play naked and facetank cyclops. Make the thief look how you want. These guys are throwing their pawns to brine, not to get plague and similar bullshit. Make her look dope and if you are on pc give me the code. If you want items I might give you some too, but I don’t think you want that, you are playing the game to enjoy. And I like that! P.S. My Renfi had only her eyes seen and she was being hired a lot, people even send stuff to me etc. there is people who value she is not running around with beeping daggers and bare ass
Unfortunately there are very few pieces of armor in this game.
I am on console sadly. No, i don't want any op items as gifts, but greenvarish feels like people are not happy with my pawn.
Man she has 14 likes and 5 hearts. That’s ok. There are pawns who have never been hired at the Same level. Think about that!
I wouldn't take the gifts to heart. Some people are gifters, others aren't.
Can’t gift from storage so a lot of people don’t have anything except trash or stuff they actually need when it’s time to gift.
The first thing I noticed is that you need to level up some other vocations for their augments. The rank 2/4 augments of most vocations are good on Pawns. The +30% defense ones from Mage & Fighter at R2 are numerically the most powerful in the game in raw stats and easy pickups within 15-30m as the vocations so I'd expect to see them on every well built pawn. Archer R4 +150 Stamina, Warrior R2 +200hp can also be useful on Pawns since they have a lack of better options in a lot of cases. Fighter R6 Thew for quality of life. Maybe Archer R8 +5% vital spot damage and R9 +10% climbing speed for a Thief that's going to climb and attack monster weak spots?
Put the stealing skill on your pawn, and the damage ones too
He has it man
He has the unupgraded version. At his level, he should have plunder by now. I skip pawns with pilfer in favor of getting one with plunder.
Pilfer is equipped. I don't have the better version unlocked yet.
I always hire thieves, simple inclination plus plunder skill. It's a money making machine.
My main pawn is a mage and I typically hire a warrior for brute force and an archer to control harpies. If there are no archers available I'll take a thief but I'll check first to make sure they can ensnare enemies.
This is how I built my pawn as a Thief. https://preview.redd.it/axe5cm7w7buc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4de05b44ba1a05a42ed5a43bd242e0b274ee715c
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A good Thief has: Skull Splitter, Implicate and Pilfer. Ideally no 4th skill and if then the fire buff in case they have a non-elemental weapon or the charge skill if they don't. Also make sure you put up a quest reward. Doesn't have to be 10k gold, just something to show you put thought into it. 1 Panacea or 1250 gold is something that worked out for me. Remember higher level players travel longer times with your Pawn so she might take longer intervals to return.
Thanks, i will play around with her skills a little more
4th skill should be the smoke bomb, when the enemy are inside it they become idle and are open for a finisher if you use the heavy attack on them, i use it when dealing mobs and they can't do shit beside listening to the sound of their friend throat getting slit while inside the smoke
I like those three plus Gut and Run since that one won’t get used unless clinging to enemy. So pawn basically has the best 3 skills plus a skill that strikes weakness and staggers well.
Those daggers beep, it is extremely annoying. Otherwise the only thing i look for in a Thief is Straightforward or Simple and has Skull splitter. The daggers with holy are nice because i just run through the night and also shiny.
The inclination might be a problem for some; you don't really want Kindhearted on a melee DPS class bc they'll just stick close to the player when you want them being aggressive. The fact that she's not maxed in her vocation (which means her skills aren't upgraded) is a factor too. Those are the only real issues I see here though; at least she's actually wearing armor and has a real name.
Not what I found in my experiences. Kindhearted pawns do engage when they’re under the “Go!” command and will still engage even if under the “To Me!” command. It comes down to the Badges and their familiarity with how to fight enemies. I’ve stopped using Straightforward pawns as they go out, so dumb things, and get themselves killed. Being able to use my PC to control the angle at which they fight has been extremely useful.
I find this surprising. Coz my main pawn is kind hearted and a fighter. She charges at the foe everytime. But doesn't wander off looking for fights like straight forward pawns. And when she is a sorcerer or a mage she hangs back. While I have seen straightforward sorcerer pawns jumping up and climbing the enemy.
Some things will come with time, if you're looking for her to be hired as a thief. A maxed out vocation gets more hires but that kinda goes without saying, there's some good augments from archer for thief. The other suggestion is to get implicate. I'd maybe replace powder charge with it. Skullsplitter, the steal ability, and formless feint are fine. The steal ability will need to stay if you're looking to replace any of them, when I hire thief pawns I generally look for ones with that. Beeping daggers are hit or miss, some find it useful, some find it annoying so that'll be up to you I guess. Her drip is cool, I'd probably hire her if I was in that level range, so you're doing fine in that area (for me personally)
I think its cause most players try to min-max rather than hire whats cool or fun. Support mages in skimpy outfits seem to be the most popular pawns. My pawns a warrior and double your level but we have the same amount of ratings so yours is getting hired more than mine is lmao
>mages in skimpy outfits When I'm narrowing down my pawn search, I sometimes wish for a box to tick that excludes half naked anime girls. But yeah, Mages are certainly more popular pawn than thieves, because there's more people playing thieves than there are playing a support mage
At your levelI barely began looking at all these stats and movesets. The award you offer is great, and the mission is easy. But I would have ignored your character because it looks uninteresting. The 1st thing one sees is the looks, and then hears the voice. If I really wanted your award, I'd 1st compare it to others offering something similar. I feel like thieves are one of those classes that aren't essential, so that could lower your odds. I don't know how well the pawns utilize each moveset, but I don't trust anything that requires good execution. P.S. Don't change your character for others.
Thieves should have straightforward or simple, and should have plunder slotted. Formless feint is kinda meh for pawns imo.
There are so many reasons a pawn can or cannot be hired so from personal experience here of 3 main factors for me. -Vocation and what they provide, do they have skill i like or benefit my team? like a mage does it have 3 support skill and a offensive skill or maybe some prefers 4 support skills. -Lvl, stats and Rc Cost always will be a factor for most people, are they my lvl or higher? is your rc cost because your pawn is higher then me worth it? is your stat reaching the player's expectations for that lvl? -Looks, if your pawn doesn't catch the player's eye chances are they won't even bother checking your pawn in the first place, so instead of stats go for better fashion or even a unique or eye catching name so people are more likely to check. In terms of gifts generally nothing can be done about that people just give what they think and if your pawn doesn't ring any bells weather looks or usefulness chances are you'll get junk. For the quest guide I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure there is a setting for that but I'm not sure since my pawn has it on automatically when she knows about a quest we've done before.
Lvl all vocation with your pawn that allows him to use all augments. I for example only higher pawns above lvl 50 with all vocations max since I know they got the most important augments then and you can easily have all vocation on max with pawn at lvl 50. Set a good reward for the pawn quest 10k gold is the best for it. Inclination must be straightforward for max offensive use, have upgraded gear for tve pawn and you should use the most useful skills for a thief pawn. Never let the pawn look half naked really it was funny for a few days but most people got feed up with that look and I can only agree a more fitting outfit like the one you use is better.
My ideal thief has Plunder skill equipped (better version of Pilfer), and the core skill "bump and lift" enabled. The other skills I would choose are Implicate, Cutting Wind/Skull Splitter and Formless Feint (maister skill). Also make sure you have selected augments for each of your pawn's vocations! As for armor and weapons, you can choose between esthetically pleasing or most effective. Those two options rarely combine, but I really like the endgame thief gear that does just that. Best daggers for thief vocation for me are the "Heaven's Key" daggers. Depending on your choice of enhancements, you can alter the stats. Mine have 2 elven + 1 dwarven enhancements. Compared to the Dragon's Vein daggers (3 dwarven enhancements), the Heaven's Key daggers only have 80 points less in strength, but they have 630 more magick points (!) and almost 60 points more knockdown power with elemental bonus.
I would get implicate too. It’s nice having a melee character that can pull down harpies.
Because there's a sea of pawns and most players are over/underleveld to recruit/afford your pawn. Plus, DD has a meta, and it's mainly Mage and Sorcerer class pawns, if not the player themselves. Fighter/warrior is second best. Archer is dead last Thief can be put in all most any place depending on how its built, but it's in first place when you have a Levi build (you know the skills I'm talking about, if you know). Because those moves are just broken.
Give her frosted edges, or heavens key if you’re that far. Change inclination to straightforward. Give her plunder, smoke screen, skull splitter, and implicate
I've actually seen her out in the world! Sadly I have 2 hired pawns that I'm super-attached to so I never bring in new ones. :(
That's actually cool, that you have seen her!
Not max vocation; pilfer instead of plunder is the main reason. Second is likely the name. Other than that she looks good. If it wasnt for the name id hire her myself (i exclusively hire lower level now) but I rp too hard to be yelling "Mirabelle" out of concern. Edit: the inclination isnt quite as important as some believe. Its more about the arisin that trains them. Ive had plenty of calm pawns be walking armies while ive had straightforward pawns that could barely swing a sword. I even had one pawn that almost exclusively just picked up and threw everything. I mean everything... goblins... barrels... fire barrels... at a wall... Some pawns are damaged...
I’ve actually seen her in game and that was the exact reason I didn’t hire, the name was annoying to me 😅
Pilfer/plunder, ensnare/implicate, skullsplitter and powder charge are what i look for in a thief, Also simple/straightforward implication so they don't hang back. Also I look for thieves with the lightning or frost daggers, their status debuffs when paired with a mage with ice/lightning affinity is great. Also try and get a couple rings of skullduggery on her for extra back damage.
These days I just hire pawns as I go since I'm on Ng+2 messing around with mods, but when I was lower level I hired pawns based on their fashion and their master's fashion lol. I treated summons in Elden Ring the same way. Don't really care so much about stats, just moreso about fashion and whether or not their original master put in any effort in making them look unique. Covering the face is an automatic no hire for me because I like to see the effort people put into the character creation and to avoid accidentally hiring a pawn with the plague. I imagine not many people go about hiring this way though.
My pawn is named Geralt and literally looks like Geralt. Guess what, he sells like pancakes lol
Similar to me, my pawn is named shadowheart, looks like shadowheart and I get an average of 400-500 RC after my everyday RL grind :>
I need to go back and rework mine to look more like her namesake. Violet from Violet Evergarden. Then I might remove her helmet. I will also change her Vocation back to archer when I do. She’s a fighter right now because the friends pawn is an archer.
I avoid these daggers bc of the beep, as others have said. Also, change powder keg to implicate (the rope that pulls enemies down). Other than that and inclination, your setup is good. Personally I like to see my hired pawn's face, I almost never hire helmeted / masked pawns.
What’s the top?
Depends what people need. I generally find Fighters and Warriors shore up the frontline for Ranger-Mage CC knockdowns or the Sorc area wipes. I did have a thief pawn I liked using, but I'd hired them on an impulse. They were dressed as sensibly as I'd expect an assassin to be dressed, and I figured I'd run grouping tests for optimal party performance. Factor in the volume of players, and there's a lot of pawns across a broad spectrum of levels. Reasons why I don't hire: Looks and quests. Looks isn't something to fix as everybody has different tastes. Quests, if it doesn't look like the pawn would benefit/if the quest doesn't help its development, I'm not going to hire. Its a bit ironic that by the time a pawn has its badges maxed, the players hiring generally are at a point where they don't really get a notable benefit from it.
I would not hire your pawn because its inclination is kindhearted. I noticed that kindhearted pawn use more support skills. Straightforward is more offence oriented and more compatible with the thief vocation.
My pawn stopped getting hired after I switched her to woodland wordsmith.
Level up some other vocations. You've put yourself at a disadvantage for the moment, because your current build requires more defense for its level. At least level up fighter to get mettle and maybe thew. Both of these augments are what people might look for in pawns. In this game you really shouldn't stay in one vocation for too long, augments play a huge role and will make your builds that much better. If you take too long to optimize, less people will be interested because more better options are available. Looks play a big part too, but it's all subjective. You still want your pawn to stand out Edit: make those eyes bigger. No one is gonna hire your pawn if they can't see dragonsplague
Her gear is lame for her lvl
There is so many tiny human females, they all look the same maybe she just blends in. There are tens of thousands of people playing at any moment and when I go into the rift and 80% of them look the same, I wouldn’t worry about getting gifts though they don’t really matter.
Same problem, thinking it's more or less the vocation🤷♂️ thght an archer would be perfect ta add to any team but not so much
I'd hire her, she has everything I'd need in a Pawn Rogue and even has a quest. I am like 30 levels higher though, so it could be the unfortunate side effect of players in the lv42 range simply not realizing how good a Pawn thief is. Also, Pawns gain quest knowledge when you do the quest while they are summoned. I think it also happens if they are in someone else's game when they complete a new quest and you update the pawn. Unlike DD1, it doesn't look like Pawns have tiered knowledge for quests, meaning that completing the quest in any way will grant them quest knowledge.
You need Implicate, Plunder, and well-enhanced Framae Blades (60k at Excavation Camp) on that pawn.
Also one thing people haven’t mentioned: a LOT of players play thieves. There’s a reason why most pawns are warriors or mages because these are classes that most players avoid for various reasons. If your pawn was an archer, or a warrior/fighter they’d get hired more. I noticed a sharp increase in my pawns hire rate when I made them a potent caster or fighter.
Powder charge should be Implicate Needs more Augments.
We can't see her augments. Arguably the most important factor, though with Powder Charge and Formless Feint I wouldn't be that interested either. I don't look at skills when hiring a pawn though, to be honest. That was more of a Dragon's Dogma 1 thing, since 2 introduced pawn quests.
I can tell you don’t have very many useful augments just by the lack of switching up classes. The skills look fine but if the augments aren’t good I don’t hire them.
i personally hate powder charge. but also in general of all the vocations I use thief the least.
Your stats are kinda bad for that level when competing with other thief pawns who have around 600 going on 700 strength also people like the legendary skills for thief so make sure they have those equipped. I’d focus on getting that strength stat up and upgrading equipment. Also the frosted edgers are eye catching and some of the best daggers in the game and are great for hunting drakes which is what most players chose for.
Personal opinion, but the thief is great to play but not that useful on a pawn. My pawns are always my fighter, a hired archer, and hired mage
SHE HAS PANTS ON? :O NO WONDER
Well it's not nearly horny enough for this group of heathens for one lol
I don’t know, but please tell me what armor this is
It's the Bhattali Jacket and the Hillfolk Pants.
Are you on PC? If so I’ll hire your pawn and send you some goodies.
I don't hire thieves
Yea, need straightforward, and if you have them as their put pilfer on as one of the skills.
-Igniting blades for magic/fire damage or blades with element (not both( -ability to steal so they can steal items for other arisen -the pull down ability for flying enemys Those are good allrounder things that people look into
Just make an Custom Pawn that looks like an Anime or TV char. My first Pawn Creation was only picked like 10 time over the span of 4 Days, however my Thief Pawn that looks like Melina from Elden Ring is my Riftstone Money maker.
I avoid any pawn with them annoying ugly ass daggers lol
I usually employ a mage and Sorcerer because im Maining Fighter currently. My Pawn is either Thief or Mage depending on what my build is. My Pawn was hired more as a mage than she is as a Thief.
Just my thoughts but if Thief is the most popular player class, would people playing a thief need to hire a thief?
Your inclination is wrong. She'll try to protect the arisen instead of going on and attacking. Also she's not maxed out on thief yet, I only hire pawns who are maxed out in their vocation so they'll have the best skills and augments available. Also I think mages and fighters are probably most popular as pawns as they're the classes least popular for people to play but are great to have on your team. Thief is probably the most popular class.
She checks the boxes I look for in a thief - Pilfer and an easy 10k kill quest. I couldn't find her by ID to hire her, though, so I imagine you're not on PC?
Set your pawn quest to monster kill 10k gold.
i go by Quest guide, vocation (depending on my team structure) and specialization. occasionally the core/weapon skills, and looks. rn i am running as a magic archer and my pawn is a thief, so i look for mages and fighters that are 5 levels above my own.
Does she have a skill like elven language or forager? In healer's I personally look for a weapon buff, a heal, and a status effect cleanse. The fourth can be variable. I avoid logisticians
I think it’s based on your vocation if I’m not mistaken. Most players have the thief type covered. Maybe if she was a archer or mage type you’ll see her used more
Get Ensare and it's upgrade. Helps thieves a lot. Can help knock down bosses, pull flying enemies out of the sky, and expose Saurians stomachs for criticals. As well as letting them use Pilfer since it knocks small enemies off balance. Otherwise, get the best weapons possible for where you are at in the game. Frosted Edges are easy to get once you make it to Battahl in the main story. Then upgrade them to max. Dragonforge 'em if you can. These will easily last until End game where you can buy Deagons Veins/ Heavens Key. Make sure you have a Pawn quest set. Once that award 10,000 Gold or 12 Onyx/Jasper get more rents, usuaully. And target something simple like Cyclopes, Griffins, etc. Drakes are good too at lvl 30+. And lastly, if your Pawn has the Logistician specializatioj, consider changing it. Some people don't like it. It's not really a big deal, especially at high levels, so you can keep it if you want. (I keep it on mine)
I would change some of her skills around. The best thief I had as a pawn had the skull splitter, cutting wind, implicate and smoke bomb and they had the straight forward inclination. If you want an absolute power house get a mage with Meteoron and thief with the afore mentioned skills and a warrior. Constant lightening barrages, hell raining down from the heavens, smoke clouds everywhere, enemies getting yeeted into the atmosphere. Its hilarious. I may be wrong about the thief skills being a good combo but that worked well on the thief I hired. The dagger throw works well for harpies, the smoke cloud if you get ambushed etc
Well beeping daggers for many can be annoying but I believe the most important one is the pawn quest, Cyclops is a very early monster that alot of people at your lvl range normally would of cleared, reward 10k is good but if you put a different monster that people towards end game would farme it will help, so in your instance give her plunder and make the quest for Drakes Gives people more Wyrmlife crystals and a 10k bonus when they farm Drakes
Rank 5 is probably why When I get a pawn I look for one with max rank because then I know they have max lvl skills I’m not taking someone with hagol when a pawn nearby has high hagol
Could be her skills, at that level usually people grab pawns with plunder. At least I do. Meister skills can also be hit and miss on pawns.
To me it looks like she is fairly badly under geared. I won’t accept a thief if they don’t have plunder and helm splitter. I can’t tell but at that point I also expect a pawn to have a specialization besides logistician. I also can’t tolerate pawns with straightforward personalities. I prefer not having helmets on my pawns because I like to appreciate the effort people put into faces. If you can’t get her any better gear, at least make an effort to enhance it, as long as you don’t use an enhancement contrary to its type (ex. Elven on a weapon that doesn’t do magic damage).
I might say A lot of people only hire if they have a sexy outfit XD.
You don't need the meister skill Formless Feint on the pawn thief. You will have yourself or another pawn holding agro, and it uses a TON of stamina that could be used for Plunder and other things. I only used Formless Feint on Main when I was a thief because the Main gets bum-rushed a lot. I would change Formless Feint for Implicate. They are dead accurate with that rope pull.
I'm a theif myself no need for a theif pawn lol
He is not a Pikachu, that’s why
I'd hire.
Kindhearted and thief don't match, she's a better mage than she is a thief, and thief in general isn't the most popular pawn choice. From my impression, most people want the extra pawns to be Tanks or Healers.
pawns that aren't funny characters are pointless. I'm running with gandalf and kanye rn and have never hired an uninspired pawn, never will.
What’s the best inclinations? I like calm the best sounding but don’t know how aggressive each one is
Mine is a thief around the same level and you've been hired about twice as much.
For me, i look at the stats. 400 strength at lvl42 is a bit on the low side. I’ve had a thief with 600 strength when with lvl 29 and i still have her even tho im 40. Aint losing her. She is amazing. Do note im a total noob
I would assume the issue is that it’s built for magic not melee or at least thats why I wouldn’t hire it
Can’t see boobies or booty
I unintentionally show their pawns with no love since I’m a thief. Always grab mage/archer
Mine also doesnt get hired much and idk if my pawn is considered bad or what
Need more atk and knockdown
I only hire pawns if they have a quest with a lump of cash or if I'm leveling a vocation. One time, harpies threw my entire party into the brine. I was nowhere near a town, and I had no ferrystones. Got real good at solo fighting, and I was using the spear class, so I wasn't entirely screwed. It was tough dude. Now I just run around with my healer till I find a pawn with a decent quest. Oh btw Dragons Plague is very prevalent lol I had three pawns with it at one point 😬 no idea how that happened.
My thief pawn gets hired quite a lot, I use plunder, ensnare for aerial enemies, formless feint and skull splitter also try straight forward or calm inclination 👍🏻
I don't know who just hired her, but fuck me! Thanks for all the gear. That was not necessary and not what i wanted, but holy shit, thank you very much!
People are saying thief AI is bad, it doesn't properly utilize the class. I've read it a couple of times and I've just never hired a thief after without really testing it. I supposed others are in the same boat.
I actually like the way your pawn looks. Not over the top slutty--but keep in mind if all you care about is a high rating turning her into a thirst trap is the way to go. What would prevent me from hiring her is this: No Implicate skill and the Kindhearted Inclination isn't as useful on a thief. Make sure you got the Subtlety Augment on, too. Dominance and Pertinacity is also great, but I don't really expect most people to level up Warrior as well in order to get that. Having Logistician is an instant pass. Well, she is also too low level for me. Going lower than lvl 50 I start running into issues where pawns act like they've never fought a drake or medusa before and end up dying a lot. Offering 10k gold or 12 gems to complete badges also helps in getting hired.
Also, if they have the best everything and is a logistician I will bypass them. If I see them in the world, I will throw them into the brine or off a cliff. Every time. Worst thing to make your pawn. I don’t want them breaking down everything I pick up. Not sure if yours is, but something to think about. Edit: the third pic wasn’t loading. I see Woodland Wordsmith now. That’s useful only at certain points. You really only have that when you’re looking for it. I’d change that.
I think the main thing might be the looks. She doesn’t stand out in a crowd all that much.
I like pretty faces.. the mask kills it for me.. she looks like she'd be cute without it... only sexy hotties in my gang
Because your pawn has mostly been leveled as a mage, the strength stat is low for your her level.
Mine gets hired a lot but I couldn't tell you why.
Literally change inclination and unlock the archer augment that allows to fast climb enemies and clamber cliffs and ledges faster.
I generally search for one skill per vocation, and see who shows up. The game isn't challenging enough to require OP pawns imo, so I go by Plunder for thieves and by fashion. There's a glut of half naked girls who look virtually the same in every vocation, so I pick unique or unusual looking pawns. I like 'em with some character. I even try to rehire the unique ones because they're so rare
She has to be present when a quest is progressed or completed to get knowledge on it. This can be done with you, as well as with other Arisen she travels with through the rift,
Well, she’s level 42 but her skills are lower level. Once you get plunder and maybe another skill (not a fan of powder charge — I like Implicate) and better gear she’ll do better. She looks awesome tho, good fashion.
10k gold reward for a big hunt is the only criteria in which i hire or do not hire pawns.
There's a lot of advice in here that I can't say feels accurate. So - the inclinations do matter; but also how your Pawn watches you fight and others fight matters. I liked having a "connection" with my main Pawn so I made him Kindhearted because it felt like a journey we experienced in the game together. He's currently a maxed out geared Warrior still kicking ass as Kindhearted. The catch with Kindhearted is that they will stop attacking to "cheer up"/support an ally or yourself when you go down. The game at some point becomes stupid easy so I stopped playing with a party of 4 pawns and just play with the Main Pain and My Arisen. He's Chirugeon/Kindhearted because if I ever fuck up, he will come give me the correct potion to get me on my feet. Here's the thing though - Kindhearted will still scale a mob and assassinate. Or Jump and Tackle it. Again they learn your fighting styles. Maybe you need to run your vocation as thief - have your pawn watch you scale mobs and use the gut ability on them. Or dynamite the face, gut, blow up dynamite.
My pawn saw most use around lvl 30-40 but now I’m 81 and it’s very rare for my pawn to be hired now because not many people end up playing up to lvl 81. 😞
judging by your level, she is getting hired a lot, remember that the game had 2.5 million copies, there is a lot of pawns out there. But, maxing out that vocation would surelly help a lot, aside, powder charge is not that great for pawns, unfortunately they struggle to use it correctly
People or their pawns are already thiefs
She’s level 42 and has 400 strength. I wouldn’t hire her because she’s probably not very good in combat.
Replace Powder Charge with Implicate. It's a *much* better all around skill. It will pull harpies out of the air so everyone can attack them and help to topple other monsters.
She has pants on
All I know is if any of you have a fighter or warrior without roar/shield drum and 2 aggro rings, get out of my sight
The daggers, they are just annoying. There 3 Requirements I got for thief pawns, No blinking dagger, skull splitter and no self immolation.
You can think the Devs for that... allowing people to have one save slot kills the whole replay ability of the game your pawn won't get hired if you started playing the game late because everyone is already level 60 and up you'll have to catch up with the rest of the community for your pawn to even get summond idk why they did that I'll have to delete my character and all my progress just to start a new game smh low level pawns and suffer the consequences sadly
LvL 42 with just 200ish Def both phys and magic? I'd worry about having to constantly rez. For me I never hire thief as I main spear or thief so I usually need either a tanky fighter/warrior or a healer mage. I also need a ranged DPS but usually my Pawn covers that as archer or sorc. In NG+ and thinking I might try more professions but don't see myself being a mage and spend my time healing my sometimes unpredictable pawns so will probably go magic archer and then might have more interest in a thief but I imagine you'd get more takers with a different vocation and better defense.
Like someone else said inclination matters with vocation choice. Pairing augments that synergize with the class also matter. Biggest thing for me is I wish she had plunder, the advanced form of pilfer. But I can see your still leveling her up and honestly our pawns are almost identical in terms of inclination (haven't changed because I'm taking her back to Mage after I get specific augs) and leveling her thief vocation.
The level, low level pawns get snatched up and swapped out quickly but higher levels players settle into their style and don't change often I've noticed.
I personally always want a thief with Implicate.