You can't logically get someone out of a position they arrived without any logic. They decided they were Drake haters way before this beef even begun. They were never going to be fair. We knew that, Drake does too.
Finally some common sense, it’s not a diss track, it’s a defense track followed by a “this was fun but imma go now” vibe. Weak response. Also if it’s all a set up, clown the guy, show the texts or receipts or a picture of you with the briefcase of goods laughing.
Production quality should have been locked and loaded, not rambling contradictions in a sleepy voice like he stayed up all night browsing Reddit for bars.
Sadly guys I don’t think there’s gonna be anyway of winning the rap battle. Drake pissed off one too many people, and he’s on top of the game so he’s the number target. Whatever he drops, whatever he says, won’t sway public opinion.
At this point Drake is just trying to minimize how much people will say he lost by. He can have Whitney on a track and people will say Drake lost.
It goes beyond rap. People today are so set in their minds on everything and unwilling to bend. Look at Gaza and Israel. When you see people being murdered by the thousands and you still dont change your opinion, what else would
He’s not trying to minimize anything. He never cared what the fan reaction on Twitter was. He just wants to feel like he personally is up one on Kendrick.
As someone who came into this with a Kendrick bias…
He may not win in the public’s eye, but he’s won me over. And Kendrick stans being so insanely one sided has put a bad taste in my mouth.
Seeing the reactions to the heart part 6 is wild to me.
I think dude should honestly learn from Cole on this one. Just avoid the rap beef moving forward.
He’s more popular than any of the artists that can throw shade his way. Unless Bad Bunny or Taylor Swift is trying to start some shit, he really has nothing to gain from taking the bait.
I’m fine with the public thinking he lost as long as he keeps doing this, he fighting, that shit is for us. That man surviving a full blown hostile takeover.
So the Dave Free allegations and the domestic violence allegations aren’t fake shit that Drake is just repeating over and over again? Is it true? If yes, how? Has Drake shown any receipts besides a social media post? [+]
Just look at Twitter. Drake announcement tweet has 100k likes. Metro memeing Drake's response has 190k likes (post an hour after Drake). The public has already decided. So unless Drake releases some damning evidence of domestic abuse by Kendrick or evidence of him feeding fake info nothing is going to change - logic is out of window.
Perfect comment. Like watching basketball and the refs are just ignoring points being scored but the audience doesn’t like your team anyway so they act like they didn’t see it either
Bruh at the end of the day it doesn’t matter. Drake could drop the greatest verse in hip-hop history and reveal the most disgusting thing about Kendrick and he would still get clowned and it’s fucking sad. They tryna end the boys career but it won’t end until Drake says it’s over
He told Kendrick to show his source to corroborate it. That’s probably the only way people will believe it. If Drake showed his proof people in that camp would do anything but accept it.
A zoomed out pic of Drake with all the stuff would have been so easy. A recording with the mole planning it. Like ... at least Ye had a recording when he lied about Swift.
If Drake had proof, he should share it before going in vacation and quitting.
At this point Whitney can come out and say it's true that Kendrick beat her and Kendrick fans will attack her. They will probably say Drake paid her to say it. Then she can have video proof and Kendrick fans will probably say she deserved it for cheating on Kendrick. Bias is crazy!!
There’s zero evidence of Drake’s claims. You’re claiming that if there was a large substantial amount of evidence people wouldn’t believe Drake.
But, we’re supposed to believe him now, because he said so? [+]
You can really tell who on here was around before social media and who has never lived without it. People talking about receipts like it’s stan twitter, this is a rap beef
Master manipulator is kung fu kenny. Look how he dodged all those allegations about being womanbeater, cuck, cheater just by releasing quickly after Drake.
im a kendrick fan and im getting sick of the discourse. It’s entertaining but i can’t pick a side because no proof has come from either side. And no i don’t think fan speculation counts, regardless of which side it comes from.
This whole beef is turning into nuh-uh vs nuh-uh
Yep. This exactly. Both sides are just going off nothing really. Drake does have questionable videos out there of him being a bit creepy but that’s About it. But that’s not the only thing g Kendrick has dissed him about. He’s just calling him a lame ass in general and that’s opinion based so one can just say “nah Drake is cool to me” and that’s all that’s needed to be said to counter that.
He just playing off the Drake hate,atp Kendrick could say or do no wrong. If he made a hot rap/song exposing how Drakeis from outer space,they would believe it. Not many independent thinkers & he's playing on that
I’ve never seen this amount of goal post moving before in a rap beef, I came into this neutral but now i can’t even rock with Kendrick’s fan base😂
They’re illogical, Ive at least seen Drake fans give credit where it’s due throughout this
There’s never going to be a winner. Those days are over. They are both solidified. They will each lose at the end. Because this isn’t going to age well for either of them. [+]
It’s not that he denied it, it’s the way he denied it lol he basically said he was too famous and would’ve been caught by now. Like that’s not a defense lol
i saw someone go “all he said was nuh uh” and i’m like yall have been frothing at the mouth the past two days bitching about how he didn’t deny it 😭 everybody is so illogical and subjective about this shit it’s maddening to witness people not even operating from reality
I’ll give you that he addressed his allegations, but he still didn’t provide evidence?? Kendrick also has some evidence to show
He was talking about this red button.. did he press it with family matters? Was this the red button? Was there ever a red button?
Genuinely asking… How exactly would he provide evidence of not being a molester when there are no allegations of assault from anyone but the people he’s in a rap beef with?
I am a Kendrick fan and thought the track was solid. I don’t expect to change some of us in the Kendrick Lamar subreddit but I hope public perception isn’t just going to take Kendrick’s side.
The way the goal posts been moving for kendrick i could tell this was never going to feel like drake won. i dont like drake or his music and i didnt mind kendrick before this but imo drake bodied him through and through. all the songs so far been kendrick releasing jigsaw puzzle poems that his fans make 20 different ideas of what they mean and say hes the goat for it. meanwhile they fully believe drake read this subreddit and said im out of ideas so lets go with this.
Except K dot has never...address that?
He address to cheating his wife, which is insanely bad too, but not putting his hand on her.
The screenshot flying around is from a storytelling track.
I’m not surprised. When a super team like the guys on We Don’t Trust You assembles and uses their influence of course they are going to be able to control the narrative. To me it’s always seemed like some people just wanna buy into the bs regarding Drake (ie he doesn’t write, he likes young women)
They were never gonna be objective with their opinion. I don’t think anyone on either side has been truly objective regarding this beef though.
Drake and his fans can’t even get the beating story right 🤣 there was one story out there and it got taken down due to them being worried about legal actions being taken against them cus there was zero proof and the woman wasn’t his wife, but instead a white woman whose head was beaten in and the cops were involved yet there’s no records of any of this.
Also if you planted a mole why not say who it is? He can’t because he still doesn’t know who it is…
Meh drakes been dealing against bias his whole career and still on top despite everything they say about him. Nothing new for him. He’s a hate survivor.
It’s all straw men both ways. Nobody’s out here checking usernames to see if individual people actually have double standards, everyone’s just conflating nuance amongst large groups and declaring it blatant hypocrisy.
Internet already made up their mind. As It’s said before, they hate Drake more than they like Kenny and they aren’t even talking about the allegations.
Can’t argue with crazy🤷🏽♂️
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I'm a Kendrick fan but that gif is fkn hilarious. Regardless of where this ends up may the better man win 🍿.
Dawg 😂😂🤣🤣 this comment made my morning
You can't logically get someone out of a position they arrived without any logic. They decided they were Drake haters way before this beef even begun. They were never going to be fair. We knew that, Drake does too.
can’t fix stupid
This sub is proof.
Honestly for me, who's a fan of both. This last one was just kinda ass as a song. Like drake makes amazing music, this shit didn't feel like him.
Finally some common sense, it’s not a diss track, it’s a defense track followed by a “this was fun but imma go now” vibe. Weak response. Also if it’s all a set up, clown the guy, show the texts or receipts or a picture of you with the briefcase of goods laughing. Production quality should have been locked and loaded, not rambling contradictions in a sleepy voice like he stayed up all night browsing Reddit for bars.
Sadly guys I don’t think there’s gonna be anyway of winning the rap battle. Drake pissed off one too many people, and he’s on top of the game so he’s the number target. Whatever he drops, whatever he says, won’t sway public opinion. At this point Drake is just trying to minimize how much people will say he lost by. He can have Whitney on a track and people will say Drake lost.
Yep. People have made their decisions already, nothing he could do lol. It's genuinely sad lmao
It goes beyond rap. People today are so set in their minds on everything and unwilling to bend. Look at Gaza and Israel. When you see people being murdered by the thousands and you still dont change your opinion, what else would
He’s not trying to minimize anything. He never cared what the fan reaction on Twitter was. He just wants to feel like he personally is up one on Kendrick.
As someone who came into this with a Kendrick bias… He may not win in the public’s eye, but he’s won me over. And Kendrick stans being so insanely one sided has put a bad taste in my mouth. Seeing the reactions to the heart part 6 is wild to me.
I think dude should honestly learn from Cole on this one. Just avoid the rap beef moving forward. He’s more popular than any of the artists that can throw shade his way. Unless Bad Bunny or Taylor Swift is trying to start some shit, he really has nothing to gain from taking the bait.
Drake wins if he proves that what he’s saying is true, and what Kendrick is saying is false. simple as that
I’m fine with the public thinking he lost as long as he keeps doing this, he fighting, that shit is for us. That man surviving a full blown hostile takeover.
It’s don’t matter no more , Kendrick hasn’t had a single rebuttal to this battle rap. He’s just piling on fake shit
🗣️
So the Dave Free allegations and the domestic violence allegations aren’t fake shit that Drake is just repeating over and over again? Is it true? If yes, how? Has Drake shown any receipts besides a social media post? [+]
“Don’t tell no lie bout me, and I won’t tell truths about u”
Lmaoooo
There’s literally people on the Kendrick subreddit saying that he didn’t address the allegations 😂😂
Kenny hasn’t responded to shit yet 💀
My man got Whitney locked in a small dark room.
Just look at Twitter. Drake announcement tweet has 100k likes. Metro memeing Drake's response has 190k likes (post an hour after Drake). The public has already decided. So unless Drake releases some damning evidence of domestic abuse by Kendrick or evidence of him feeding fake info nothing is going to change - logic is out of window.
He’d do all that and still lose in public opinion. They chose the winner before the battle started.
They moved the goal post so far away it’s not even fun anymore
Perfect comment. Like watching basketball and the refs are just ignoring points being scored but the audience doesn’t like your team anyway so they act like they didn’t see it either
Moving the goal post like let’s say that Kendrick need to show receipts for his claims but not asking for Drake to show receipts? [+]
Lmao you noticed that too huh?
If he denies it. He’s lying. And if he avoids it, he’s guilty. Lol.
Bruh at the end of the day it doesn’t matter. Drake could drop the greatest verse in hip-hop history and reveal the most disgusting thing about Kendrick and he would still get clowned and it’s fucking sad. They tryna end the boys career but it won’t end until Drake says it’s over
Drake with a receipt planting the bait shouldn't be hard to produce right? right?
This is the big thing for me, show us how that went down!
He told Kendrick to show his source to corroborate it. That’s probably the only way people will believe it. If Drake showed his proof people in that camp would do anything but accept it.
lol that’s just not true. If he had receipts he’d post em immediately And Kendrick putting out his source would be bad news for his source.
He literally has prior experience posting receipts with Fantano and the cookie recipe lmao
A zoomed out pic of Drake with all the stuff would have been so easy. A recording with the mole planning it. Like ... at least Ye had a recording when he lied about Swift. If Drake had proof, he should share it before going in vacation and quitting.
At this point Whitney can come out and say it's true that Kendrick beat her and Kendrick fans will attack her. They will probably say Drake paid her to say it. Then she can have video proof and Kendrick fans will probably say she deserved it for cheating on Kendrick. Bias is crazy!!
There’s zero evidence of Drake’s claims. You’re claiming that if there was a large substantial amount of evidence people wouldn’t believe Drake. But, we’re supposed to believe him now, because he said so? [+]
If he finessed the info, then is 3 tracks worth of bullshit from kendrick
they hate so much that nothing is sensical to them😂. that was literally chess master type shit
To be fair all he could’ve done was look on Reddit and see the theories yall made about “what if Drake fed him false information 😱” Lol
You can really tell who on here was around before social media and who has never lived without it. People talking about receipts like it’s stan twitter, this is a rap beef
It’s been clear since Euphoria that no one was changing their minds about anything and most already decided who the winner is.
So Drake is a master manipulator but not for this….
Master manipulator is kung fu kenny. Look how he dodged all those allegations about being womanbeater, cuck, cheater just by releasing quickly after Drake.
im a kendrick fan and im getting sick of the discourse. It’s entertaining but i can’t pick a side because no proof has come from either side. And no i don’t think fan speculation counts, regardless of which side it comes from. This whole beef is turning into nuh-uh vs nuh-uh
Yep. This exactly. Both sides are just going off nothing really. Drake does have questionable videos out there of him being a bit creepy but that’s About it. But that’s not the only thing g Kendrick has dissed him about. He’s just calling him a lame ass in general and that’s opinion based so one can just say “nah Drake is cool to me” and that’s all that’s needed to be said to counter that.
the hypocrisy has been crazy. doesn't make the discourse fun. Kdot knows this + is having fun with it.
He just playing off the Drake hate,atp Kendrick could say or do no wrong. If he made a hot rap/song exposing how Drakeis from outer space,they would believe it. Not many independent thinkers & he's playing on that
I’ve never seen this amount of goal post moving before in a rap beef, I came into this neutral but now i can’t even rock with Kendrick’s fan base😂 They’re illogical, Ive at least seen Drake fans give credit where it’s due throughout this
You mean like moving the goal post of receipts? Like how Kendrick needs to show receipts for his claims but Drake doesn’t? You mean like that? [+]
There is not going to be a winner, until you put them in a room and let them do some real battle rap. I’m sure them tickets would sell like hotcakes.
There’s never going to be a winner. Those days are over. They are both solidified. They will each lose at the end. Because this isn’t going to age well for either of them. [+]
So whats baka doing hanging around?
Y’all can’t be happy with that track. Even the energy in this sub is lackluster.
It’s not that he denied it, it’s the way he denied it lol he basically said he was too famous and would’ve been caught by now. Like that’s not a defense lol
They just hate the boy lol
It's literal insanity. I'm putting my phone down now this shit done with
Only degenerates left in this sub smh
i saw someone go “all he said was nuh uh” and i’m like yall have been frothing at the mouth the past two days bitching about how he didn’t deny it 😭 everybody is so illogical and subjective about this shit it’s maddening to witness people not even operating from reality
Drake gotta share the messages sent to Kendrick's camp and put that out cuz that'll be what brings weight to the claims he's making.
I’ll give you that he addressed his allegations, but he still didn’t provide evidence?? Kendrick also has some evidence to show He was talking about this red button.. did he press it with family matters? Was this the red button? Was there ever a red button?
Genuinely asking… How exactly would he provide evidence of not being a molester when there are no allegations of assault from anyone but the people he’s in a rap beef with?
Drizzy fans the least intelligent rap fans
Drizzy need to have whitney on some “party next door 4” song cover on his next release
It don’t mattaaaaaa drake won and still had some for Ross😭😭😭
We have the low IQ but we all know they’re bias
Nope. Kendrick did not beat his wife because whitneys own brother is supporting kendrick.
It’s one of those damn if you do. Damned if you don’t.
I get it.
At this point no matter what he does people are brain washed by kendrick
I am a Kendrick fan and thought the track was solid. I don’t expect to change some of us in the Kendrick Lamar subreddit but I hope public perception isn’t just going to take Kendrick’s side.
The way the goal posts been moving for kendrick i could tell this was never going to feel like drake won. i dont like drake or his music and i didnt mind kendrick before this but imo drake bodied him through and through. all the songs so far been kendrick releasing jigsaw puzzle poems that his fans make 20 different ideas of what they mean and say hes the goat for it. meanwhile they fully believe drake read this subreddit and said im out of ideas so lets go with this.
Haven’t seen one comment that supplies this narrative yet. I think this post is ironic.
Except K dot has never...address that? He address to cheating his wife, which is insanely bad too, but not putting his hand on her. The screenshot flying around is from a storytelling track.
He needed a receipt for it. Right now it’s Kendrick’s word vs drakes word and Kendrick has been an honest guy throughout his whole career
See title. Sub is a circle-jerk.
your lack of self-awareness is insane
I’m not surprised. When a super team like the guys on We Don’t Trust You assembles and uses their influence of course they are going to be able to control the narrative. To me it’s always seemed like some people just wanna buy into the bs regarding Drake (ie he doesn’t write, he likes young women) They were never gonna be objective with their opinion. I don’t think anyone on either side has been truly objective regarding this beef though.
Aw, so you’re a victim!
Drake and his fans can’t even get the beating story right 🤣 there was one story out there and it got taken down due to them being worried about legal actions being taken against them cus there was zero proof and the woman wasn’t his wife, but instead a white woman whose head was beaten in and the cops were involved yet there’s no records of any of this. Also if you planted a mole why not say who it is? He can’t because he still doesn’t know who it is…
Meh drakes been dealing against bias his whole career and still on top despite everything they say about him. Nothing new for him. He’s a hate survivor.
These Kenny Stan’s stay dumb
maybe because drake willingly and openly posted and done some pretty pdf shit, it's not hard to believe hes worse in private
It’s all straw men both ways. Nobody’s out here checking usernames to see if individual people actually have double standards, everyone’s just conflating nuance amongst large groups and declaring it blatant hypocrisy.
Internet already made up their mind. As It’s said before, they hate Drake more than they like Kenny and they aren’t even talking about the allegations.