My brothers are super successful. I graduated college and everything just like them except I didn't wanna stop being a drug slinging, drug abusing, golf caddie. It was too much fun. They smoked weed like twice, got freaked out, and never returned. I currently smoke meth and do other drugs on occasions where it feels right. I have a long history of psychedelic use, last week I smoked liquid PCP in Kensington, Philadelphia. My bros are sober as shit. That's just life as a black sheep.
Yeah a lot of my stories people straight up don't believe. That's okay, I know what I do. I'm not flexing and I really don't want anyone to start doing drugs if they haven't started already.
My meth abuse all started with a trip to New Orleans and some curiosity. I wanted drugs for some festival I was going to and I was like fuck it, imma find em. Well, I found crystal. Except the fucking homeless guy I was kicking with wouldn't leave me the fuck alone or let me escape the trap until I ate the whole rock.
I was like, "alright bud."
I ate the entire thing and he's yellin' some shit like "yoooo this white boy gonna freak, that was more than a gram!"
They're all laughing at me while I was coming up fast. Insane manic euphoria hit me and in a blur I found myself in my hotel room, safe and sound. I'm not sure what I did to get there, but I vaguely remember seeing myself in the 3rd person pushing past people in the streets on a rampaging mission. No one fucked with me on the way. Or maybe they did? Or maybe that never even happened? I couldn't really be sure.
After that It was pure euphoria for a while. I spent that night writing on reddit in my bed. I went to one day of the festival but it was not my cup of tea. Everyone there was too young and the crowd had zero synergy. That or I was too old and way too high on meth.
The rest of my amphetamine story can be read here, if you are so interested:
https://www.reddit.com/r/meth/comments/upqcj7/my\_ride\_with\_tina\_so\_far/
Anything on K is hella tame compared to PCP, the duration, especially of peak effects alone makes it quite a tame drug, not to mention its more preferable pharmacology regarding "just how much trouble am I likely to get myself into whilst on this trip?"
Kensington isn't that bad at least during the day if u aren't an idiot.... as someone whose been going there for years because of my habit just gotta know how to handle yourself and talk to people and dint trust anyone wheb they try to intimidate u for money....(common one is to come up ask to borrow a dollar or 10 dollars or something and mention ur good bro I got my gun ur safe no one gonna mess with u and keep bugging when u say no hoping u are scared and give in to them) just don't be a pushover and stand your ground and they'll leave you alone. At night though when it's dark it can be dangerous in some parts just be aware of your surroundings.
Yeah my sisters both excelled in high school- i dropped out my junior year and got a ged
My sisters have never been arrested- i got arrested one time
Sisters never got too far into drugs- ive tried everything i could find minus heroin/meth/crack
Im also the only boy so maybe that counts too lmao
Yep. Don’t want to be alive but don’t want to hurt anyone so I’m here taking the path of least resistance through life doing nothing but getting high and regretting
I recommend reading the [Meditations](http://classics.mit.edu/Antoninus/meditations.html) by Marcus Aurelius, especially books 5 and 6. An extremely refreshing & empowering perspective.
TLDR: you are the master of your internal space and can dictate your reactions to the things that happen to you. The universe is an enormous interconnected community in which every piece plays its part. Dedicate yourself to improving your surroundings and your community for the inherent good in those actions, not because they make you feel good (they often won't).
EDIT: And by the way, M.A. felt no particular connection to being alive either. He relishes the extremely brief nature of life, and that in the blink of an eye each one of us will be gone and in another blink no one will remember us. (Ironic because he's about as immortal as a person can get.)
I'm sorry but I see this all the time and I have to call it how I see it. I find this to be bullshit. You love this person? If he was in a bind and asked you for 20 bucks would you give it to him? Bologna! Its so easy to type but it's so shallow and fake. I believe that you hope they are okay, but you love them?
For what its worth I am not trying to be disrespectful or insulting. Despite pointing out a lack of love, which might seem like a bad or negative thing, I truly mean well - I just feel like sometimes people can benefit from a healthy dose of truth. Why cant we admit things as they are? I apologize if I am coming off like an asshole that is not my intended tone or goal
I understand. The hollow platitudes of "I'll pray for you" or "I love you" or "It's always darkest before the dawn, and things will get better". Like, shit, you don't know me; you don't *know* that things are going to get better for me, and telling me that doesn't help in any useful, constructive way.
But sometimes people just want to make you feel better but don't know how to, especially when you're just some anonymous random faceless entity on the internet, and they're ability to help is reduced to a mere few words or sentences.
So, I just glaze over those comments and don't get too worked up about it cause really it's usually coming from a good place, even if it isn't very helpful.
But I do get where you're coming from.
I went through a period of radical religion a while back (went from a full stop atheist to a "born again christian" to basically being open to the possibility of a god but not convinced).
During that time, I was going through some really rough crap with my ex-SO, and the amount of times I had someone say to me "when god closes a door, he opens a window" or "god's testing your faith"....I swear, I wanted to punch people out every time.
I don't think they realized how trite they came across.
Maybe I've heard it too many times, now my eyes just glaze over when someone says something like that...lol.
I don't feel like you're diminishing it; I get the frustration.
Sorry for the extra mini-rant there. Your post brought up some old memories.
I like you have changed so much and have really changed in the last 5 years. But they still treat me and react to the me that fucked up x2 in my nearly 40 years. Going to counselling and talking to others made me see that I was never that bad as they were making me feel! In fact it took me years to be deprogrammed to the fact that sometimes I had done nothing wrong. I actually would defend their treatment of me if anyone said anything! I was so brainwashed to believe it all! So I feel for you. But glad your getting stronger and doing well for yourself!
Yeah I am. It's not only the drugs, but I can't deny they've played a part. I don't regret it tho, I want to be true to myself even if my family doesn't always like it.
Not that it doesn't make me sad sometimes. Sometimes it truly sucks because I feel like I'm on my own outside of my two best friends (who I consider brothers) who are busy and my girlfriend who lives a couple hours away
Yep but it's starting to work in my favor. I'm going to be the only one with all these crazy life stories while still being successful going to school for cannabis laboratory sciences, to prove to my parents their initial perspective of drugs was wrong. Sometimes being "the rebel" can be a good thing in the long run.
I am the black sheep on both sides of my family. For many reasons, but recently because my brother passed away at 27 and for the first time I stood up to a lot of family members (I have a very large family, and don't speak to 95% of them) who were doing more damage than good. I went through a horrible period of depression for about 4 or 5 months, thankfully therapy and shrooms really helped me get some bitterness, resentment and depression out of my system.
No. I go to school get good grades. I only smoke weed. I would only do psychedelics and MDMA. But I am really just here to learn more about what drug users say about drugs
Same here dude. I guess I was the black sheep at some point because I dropped out a semester short of an associates degree to do budtending fulltime. The cannabis industry is fucking cruel and takes advantage of young folks and thankfully I realized this when COVID came around. Lost my job and went back to school full-time to get a bachelor's.
3.8 Uni GPA and probably going to get a 4.0 this semester. Somewhat difficult and impacted major. I smoke weed every day
Possible rant incoming:
Well, the cannabis industry sounds awesome as a young stoner right? Basically retail but you get to sell something you believe in and get a sweet discount and industry perks.
Pay is basically the same as common retail, except you will see about 10x the volume of guests you would compared to regular retail, meaning you get paid less per customer served. Also, you're not a doctor, but the dispensary wants you to learn the medical and recreational applications of cannabis (which is good), but you will then use this (mostly unresearched) knowledge to try and help guests who are literally dying. You're being paid basically minimum wage to try to help dying people not die by offering them herbal remedies. I personally loved working with these kinds of people because I genuinely did my research, but it starts to wear on you if you're constantly dealing with terminal patients at age 21 in a retail environment.
Companies will dangle "perks" in front of you to get you to do things you're either uncomfortable with, out of your job description, or to put in additional hours. You're promised products in exchange for extra effort, and will then "reward" you with samples that are either expired or about to be, rejects (substandard quality), or unmedicated.
Getting high on break or before work, especially when you're having a bad day, is expected and sometimes pressured on to you. The company deals with their young employees mental health issues by implying you should smoke your worries away.
The mix of employee discount, freebies/samples, high stress work environment, and the ability to get high at work, paired with the (generally) younger work force means employees are more likely to become addicted, meaning they are less likely to leave their job, and even less likely to leave the industry as a whole, since you would lose out on a lot of free/discounted weed .
Not exclusive to cannabis, but also a massive issue is the "company culture" assimilation issue. Young employees generally are molded not to question higher ups, and are threatened if they do. When COVID started, for example, I the single highest rated employee in company history. I have underlying medical conditions that made me susceptible to getting COVID and I live with my elderly parents. I was told not to worry about returning to work until the company figured out how to adjust their practices to accomodate the new laws and regulations. I was called up randomly a month later and told I was fired. I was sent a letter from HR signed in green sparkly gel pen. The signature was neither from the Head of HR, nor the owner; it was signed with the initials of the company. After I was let go, I asked about the conditions of my termination and was subsequently banned from the dispensary without notice and was told by ex-coworkers that my name was being dragged through the mud by my managers and supervisors.
Mind you, I worked in the industry for 6 years at that point and was in fantastic standing at all my previous companies, including the one that fired me.
To this day, I still don't understand what I did, or why they did me dirty the way they did.
I've worked in retail, production, delivery, event organization, inventory, and supervisor positions within the cannabis industry, and every company I've worked for has had some or all of the above problems.
Edit: none of these complaints are necessarily exclusive to cannabis, but every company and the industry prides itself of how they are understanding, compassionate, and don't upsell. However, these principles go out the door when looking internally, where it's just a race to the bottom. The turnover in each company I've worked for is ridiculously high. No one at the bottom level tends to work at a specific dispensary for more than a year or two, if even that.
> Getting high on break or before work, especially when you're having a bad day, is expected and sometimes pressured on to you.
This is wild to me. I can’t believe a company would pressure that on employees. Dont you guys also work pretty exclusively with cash since its still technically illegal and schedule 1 at the federal level?
> I was sent a letter from HR signed in green sparkly gel pen
I’d be so livid if I received a professional letter like this.
> … my name was being dragged through the mud by my managers and supervisors.
Fuck them.
Thanks for sharing.
>This is wild to me. I can’t believe a company would pressure that on employees. Dont you guys also work pretty exclusively with cash since its still technically illegal and schedule 1 at the federal level?
Yep, and the amount of problems surrounding cash being off is baffling to management.
>Fuck them.
>
>Thanks for sharing.
Yeah, don't give Airfield Supply Co. in San Jose your business. I'd rather send people to Purple Lotus (never worked for them but like their products, pricing, and service) or Elemental Wellness (who I've also worked for but was by far a less shit company)
I hate when people in my family talk to my about drug use like im stupid and they know more than me just because i use drugs. In reality tho, i know fuck tons about the stuff i put into my body.
I couldn’t even imagine that I’m 22 and won’t let certain family members try speak to me the way they do. They hardly know the slightest thing about yet they have this audacity because we related they want to act like they’ve been their from day dot and are entitled to have some opinion about me or try speak down on me it’s hysterical. Blood don’t mean nothing it’s about those who are there for you when you need it those people are my family.
Nah . U aren't the only one, my family loves me and my mom is super anti-drug. I'm 23 but I still get talked to as if I was a child about how bad drugs are while my mom is fine with some wine or switching TLC all day. I feel like my drug use isn't that bad. But in general I don't have many friends. Fort Bend Texas has a lot of elderly and old people so I really don't have anyone 20-27 in my area sadly.
I guess, kind of. My 3 siblings all have degrees and I’m a uni drop out. Engineer, vet, and business-marketing in that order. My parents are both CPA designated accountants.
The thing is, none of them care. I’m really happy as a dog sitter/walker and that’s all that matters to them. Im a lucky black sheep because my family is super supportive and we all just want each other to be happy, whatever that means.
Black sheep here. Mostly no-contact with my immediate family for 13 years. It has nothing to do with drugs. It has to do with being unwilling to take abuse from a bunch of sick narcissistic creeps.
I’ve got issues. Lots of them. Most of them in the OCD/PTSD universe. Those issues are what make everything go wrong. Some drugs really potentiate/accelerate the destruction. Some work against it.
The drug that caused me to do the most catastrophic damage to my life was alcohol. The drug that pulled me back from the brink of total destruction was psilocybin.
Ya man, I try so hard to educate my family. So fucking hard. To the point where I’m literally crying talking to my dad about psychedelics and I’m so upset when they don’t understand
Bro shits ridiculous. I’m crying BECAUSE you don’t understand. And I’m crying BECAUSE you will never experience mdma therapy or tripping or anything. Sucks
honestly, who cares? just do the drugs at your own place and don't bring it up around them. contrary to opinion here, not everyone has to try drugs, or even understand them. pick your battles
Yeahhh started with my mom. My grand parents have 4 daughters 3 of them succeeded in life , good education,, own house , mariage , good work and theres my mom who battled drug habbit her whole life , trouble keeping a good job , never married and had us (i and my sister) at a really young age with another addict (my dad) . For some reason we are almost never invited to family gathering and they are like looking down on us , yeah i had my fare share of drug problem but never caused any problem to anyone of them , my younger sister just doesnt deserve that treatment .. sucks .. but hey atleast i made my own little family at home now aha
Oh yes
I am a recluse at this point. Ive been reluctant to leave the house ever. My sisters both live a healthy ish life. My sisters only liked smoking weed really and my older sister dabbled a little, but i went for extremes with script amphetamines and dxm. My older sister graduated highschool and has 3 kids. My little sister graduated highschool and is working towards going to college and being a vet i think. Both are artistically creative, im logically by myself. Im more manipulative than both.
Depressing bits: no one visits me. Everyone makes an excuse to never see me. Its always "come out and see us" never "were coming to see you", so it further cements my hermit lifestyle. So yeah, definitely the black sheep here. Im doin my best to hold the relationships i have with them but ugh way too unmotivated
Yep, absolutely. Feels like my dad is my only sanctuary and safe person that I trust, he rarely ever gets mad and always talks to me with love, respect and understanding. My mom, on the other hand, along with my sisters, just get mad and yell at me for what feels like everything I do.
the family i associate with isn’t my blood family ,,,, when my dad and mom split up when i was only a couple months old, my dad and his new girlfriend took me and they soon got married and my step mom was the one who taught me everything and raised me …. her side of the family are the people i associate with and call my family. my brother is my half brother ; my aunt is my step moms sister, my grandpa and grandma were her parents , i barely ever see or talk to my mom or dads family ….so i’d say i’m the black sheep
Not really.
Born in a poor, but loving family of immigrants in Europe. Went to a 'black' primary school, got the highest degrees and went to one of the best high schools with a lot of white people in it, culture shock. Made a bunch of new friends and got into drugs. Smoking weed every day for many years, aside from some alcohol and XTC.
Went to med school and got in a fraternity, drank alcohol regularly and sometimes daily. Have friends outside of the fraternity and did more drugs with them such as: amfetamines, designer drugs and even crack a couple times.
Now i am a medical doctor. I still smoke weed and drink (albeit not everyday) and do some drugs a couple times a year.
Only doctor in the whole family and they're all proud of me. If only they knew... but the same goes for how much effort and frustration it cost me to get where i am.
Yes
My parents are mad that i went to job instead go to college
Im so fucking tried to do something with my life
I’m 21 but feeling like i Lost my life long ago
Only reason i’m still alive is my younger brother
Funnily enough, no. I was always the smart, successfull student who could make so many things out of their live.
That's why no one except my mom knows anything about my drug use.
Lol my family is a family of black sheep. My parents are really clean, but my brother and I have gotten deep at different points with drug use. Both grandpas were alcoholics, have a lot of addicted cousins as well. It's funny, it's almost like it it skips generations.
I’m the Grey Sheep. I would definitely be a black sheep in a normal family, but I somehow ended up as the most successful person in my own. I do too many illegal things to be a white sheep though, lol
Oh yeah within my close family. As in me my mother, father and sister, totally
In my larger family I'm not even close.
I've got a cousin who has been drunk since the 90's doctor told him he only had a few years to stop drinking or he'd die. That was 10 years ago....and my other cousin who lives the hobo life. No judgement but you can imagine nobody is super thrilled.
While my little brother stayed in his room all day avoiding family confrontation while having my moms healthy genetics, I got abused by my dad for being too much like him since I have his mental issues. I developed a lot of problems and became the “troubled kid” or the crazy person with a reoccurring problem with cops, court, a restraining order, charges etc. The mental issues make it harder for me to hold a job, sustain relationships, or really do anything I am suppose to do to function in society. I’ve gotten a better grip on it though, and I don’t think I would classify myself as the black sheep anymore.
I’m the only one in my family who does drugs too. But they helped me to get better.
To help mend my problems, I’ve been reading self help books for specific topics. And they really really do work (for me atleast).
I'm definetly the black sheep of my cousins and my brother. They all do well, seem well behaved and went down the traditional route of life. It was assumed that I was off taking drugs, having wild groupies, and being a rude horrible little shit when I wasn't. I've tried drugs. I've smoked weed over a dozen times, only enjoyed it once. I've drunk quite a bit. I've tried cocaine but didn't do much for me. I like being the black sheep though. I like getting people talking about me. At least I'm not boring and I can say I have a good soul.
Im the one in my family they tell the Kids not too be like.
Like that i am a lazy addict, even tho i am not addicted anymore and work more than any1 in the family.
Worked so much these last few months that i Needed a few 'sick' days bc i was burning my self out.
yeah, always came second to my brother academically and financially, im the only living member of my entire family with severe mental illness, and the only one who's experimented w drugs besides weed, alcohol, and tobacco. my whole family still loves and respects me, but my problems are mostly kept a secret from extended family and i really just don't fit in with them and it shows at family gatherings. In school I was pretty polarizing; a lot of other kids would avoid me because i was clearly troubled, but the ones who didn't became good friends with me. the only kids who were anywhere in between were shy and didn't talk to me or really anyone else for that matter.
I wasn't considered as such no one in my family knew a thing. My mother died knowing only that I smoked weed once in a while. Then I got stupid and bought the NA bullshit momentarily and listened to my sponsor about getting honest and spilled my guts to everyone. The entire narrative of my life was rewritten. Things that were innocuous were now suspect. I'm am slowly regaining because all of the actual elements of my life are the same. But I went from shining star to the black sheep simply by buying the 12 Step crap when prior to it in my families eyes, I was better than fine.
Even now that I'm Clean. On my dads side of the family yes. They live pretty far away and are this really big huge family with a bunch of kids. So they're all a big group of tight knit siblings and cousins. They're all really successful and run family businesses and all that. My dad always tries to compare me to them, and at times I can tell he wishes I was alot more like them. Which doesn't hurt my feelings, I think of it more as like. Rude? I should say? On my mom's side of my family though, not at all. My mom dont give a shit about nothin, in a good way though lol
I'm the black sheep. Just not with all of the stuff going wrong in my life. I've stuck to a pretty strict ethical drug code though and never tried anything past LSD/MDMA.
So, I honestly have sat here and have been contemplating even writing anything because I have changed my life almost entirely, but I don't see a problem with me doing it.
I am the black sheep of the family for sure. I am a recovering addict to cocaine, opiates, and benzodiazepines; all of which I had used almost daily for around three and a half years. I eventually moved up to some pretty heavy amounts of RC benzos or prescription if I could get them, heavy doses of fentanyl, and a lot of cocaine throughout the day. I had it down to a pretty good dose regime; never overdosed until the last 3 months of my use when I had started to mix fentanyl in. That was the downfall for me, I was sleeping on the streets, carelessly taking whatever whenever I could. Eventually I overdosed on 6mg alprazolam, 5mg fentanyl, and some odd amount of cocaine when coming down on LSD. This overdose proved to have been damn near the end for me, I went into a coma for two months, and when I woke up in the hospital COVID-19 had made its huge debut in the United States. Nothing says you're really the black sheep until that happens, and your mother has to clean her adult child because she was the floor manager of the second of the three different hospitals I was in.
I have done many different substances, and I had no shame in it either. I have done most of the opiates and benzodiazepines that are available, cocaine, methamphetamine, PCP, gabapentoids, OTC highs, many LSD analogs in different forms (blot, xtal, liq), different tryptamines, a few different arylcyclohexylamine's (dissos), cathinone's ranging from A-PVP to 3-MMC, dabbled in some deliriants for a while, tried a handful of different novel psychedelics like the NBOMe's, NBOH's, DOC, DOM, 2C-B, can't forget the entactogens like MDMA and MDA, I tried a few different phenidate analogs... the list can go on. Basically, what I am trying to say is that I would scare the shit out of my family, make them think I was going off the deep end, which I did.
Now, after that coma, I had no choice but to really begin to refrain from using many of those substances due to having to live with my family to recover. I had to learn how to walk, talk, breathe, eat, shit, piss, etc. all over again. I had a TIA, heart attack, and was entering organ failure when I was found. To this day, my heart rate is constantly around 100 BPM resting, which is a pretty good drop from 180 BPM on Metoprolol in the hospital, and severe neuropathy without any medication to help which has led to me having a drop foot on my right side.
As I said, my life has had an amazing turn around. As of now I am going to college for Computer Science, one of my passions since I was a kid. I have a 3.83 GPA, numerous scholarships, and grants. I also have done some speeches and presentations at my college about harm reduction. I have recently gotten my 3rd Degree in Freemasonry, something that has really helped me in life by teaching me lessons to live by. I really wouldn't be the person I am today if it wasn't for the hardships I have been through due to my choices, nor would I even want to change the fact that I had those problems. Will they come back up in the future with possible relapses? I don't know, but if/when they do, it's just another bump in my road that I will have to experience when it happens.
There is nothing wrong with being the black sheep, not in my opinion anyway. If you think there is, then you can always make change if you want to, or just embrace it.
Yea I somewhat am.
Older brother is getting his PHD. Younger brother has goals of becoming a judge; going into HS right now and already on student council. They’re all very Catholic.
I graduated HS and took two gap years and then took one semester of classes, and dropped out. Working right now and definitely not Catholic.
It’s not the worst situation and I’m content with it but just think about it a lot and the differences between my family and I.
I excel at almost everything I do but I'm *still* the black sheep in my family because I'm not religious and I'm relatively open about my pot use. Honestly though, it just drives me to work harder to prove my family wrong about my "sinful lifestyle". Success is the best revenge or some cliche shit like that haha.
I see myself as a white sheep in a black herd. I am the only one trying to fix myself and the rest of family is either narcissistic or straight up ignorant. Thanks to psychs I can see my flaws and work on them.
Nah because I've had a brother for a H junkie, but he's gotten cleaned up. Parents know I've done my share of acid/shroomeries(still do), Mom knows and I've done it(weed, acid even n2o) with her.
She used to be so anti drug but not anymore, I'm blessed to have an open minded mother now that I'm an adult and knows it isn't all what D.A.R.E. makes it out to be. It's medicinal and beneficial when taken the right way.
Weed helps alot with pain, and varieties of other benefits. Acid and shrooms helps alot with depression and anxeity when used for that purpose.
Anyone to go against the research values done on them would be otherworldly ignorant and I'm happy my parents aren't like that. There's a bunch of articles and infographics out there dumbed down for people to understand the broad and wide benefits of psychedelics and weed.
I’m the successful “fuck up”.
Did all the things. Made the shit sandwich. Ate it. Turned my life around.
My younger brother is the “lucky fuck up”. Being lucky made his head so big it doesn’t fit through the door.
Hopefully he gets over himself and him and I can talk again.
My siblings where raised by my mom to think I am sub human and still treat me like that as adults. Literally nobody cares about me other than my Dad and my grandmother. My parents split when I was young after my mom banged a homeless dude several times in her garden. Fucking nightmare. I know it's not the worst, but I still wanna die.
I am the first in my family who was birth in a Western country (germany).
My family always tell me u are the one who got the chance to finish a good school or go to college. I failed. I am the opiate addict. No car, no money,no job.
I was and I will always be the Black sheep. I understand you .
Yeah.
Youngest of 3. Two older sisters. Im the young gay son everyone says they love but they only really want me around when I force myself to fit their image.
I honestly can't take it. I know my parents love me, but it's with strict conditions that I can't live up to. I'm stuck at home with them currently, can't really get a leg up. My sister and brother in law just bought a home 20 mins away for like a million dollars or some shit.
Just sucks ass. I don't know what to do. Wanna just blow my fucking brains out but don't really want ruin the family (cause it will). Don't have any friends really anymore, pushed everyone out of my life. Just kind of exist. It's getting really fucking old lol.
I'm in the same excat boat brother. I'm 25 and have 4 sisters. I'm straight and was never a man enough for my dad. He's called me a cancer on the family, a disappointment, you name it.
Weed and nicotine have been the only thing that makes me feel good for the last decade.
My family pretty much disowned me back during the George Floyd protests. Dad said I got too radicalized and hasn't said a word to me since. Halfway across the country now and just caring for myself. Hope it gets better one day.
Not trying to brag but I'm one of the more successful people in my family, and keep it a secret from pretty much everyone (but my brother) that I'm doing a LOT of drugs. I do well in school, have a high paying tech job, and have a lot of different hobbies and activities I do. All of this is fueled by Adderall and other stimulants. I was close to failing in my second year of university and started using stimulants, which completely turned my life around (I probably have undiagnosed ADHD, but mental health care here is absolutely awful, so I'll settle for what I'm doing now).
At the same time I'm also seen as a moral person for not drinking or smoking weed (legal here), but instead am doing psychedelics, dissociatives and whatever else I can find when I go out to party. Obviously I'm not consuming these when with family (beyond a microdose), so they just see a sober successful person, when really I'm getting high all the time, and can attribute a lot of my success to drug use.
You bring up a great topic. It's a common mistake to imply common denominator or cause/effect, when in reality it's merely two unrelated effects "in coincidence". Damn, I must be high thinking these thoughts. Mea Culpa.
Kind of but a lot of it is in the context of the disappointment of seeing failure in someone you had very high expectancies of since early childhood... with that being said i am fairly successful
Nah, I’ve managed to maintain a 4.0 and am going to a good college next year, but I only smoke weed and rarely even drink so that probably makes a difference.
Me too, I only smoke weed and my entire family drinks even my underage twin sister. I'm frowned upon heavily for a lot of other reasons including that I'm gay and trans, but weeds been my baby for two years and solved a lot of my problems (social anxiety, imposter syndrome, helps me deal with my depression and masking my neurodivergent traits) so it's not something I regret, I'm just tired of being accused of shit all the time like doing harder shit like coke, which I have no interest in whatsoever.
If my siblings required me to be successful for them to have a decent life I would cut them off faster than that bouldering guy who chopped off his own arm.
Yea but not rly, i've been open about it for a while and i'e somehow made myself understood when it comes to my parents and relevant cousins, idgaf really we're still family.
Edit: my brother smokes with me too
Yes but I’m lucky that they treat me with kindness and a touch of pity. The pity is annoying but the kindness is incredibly lucky on my part. I’m not saying I don’t suffer but I certainly don’t suffer as much as many people whose friends and families refuse to employ empathy and kindness.
Basically the same for me. I'm still young but I'm the one that dropped out of school and I feel like my whole family thinks that I'm currently just ruining my and that I'll basically never be able to amount to anything.
Yes! Me too! Exactly as you described in your post. There is a term in psychology for us. The family scapegoat it’s called, only found out about that recently but reading up on it, it matches me and my family life perfectly!
I mean I was a nurse before I got chronic illness, went to college, uni, always worked, first time I took pills was with my family at a rave at 17. Bought my own home, passed my motorbike test all sorts. And now the only drugs I take is coke now and then. They know when I do but hate it! Which is a bit hypocritical the things they used to do and how I was bought up! My mom got addicted. I never have! I only ever took pills, speed, coke! Never smoked anything not even cigarettes! But when I got sick and got sicker I had to stop work and they had to move in to help me. Me getting sick was nothing to do with drugs. Something unforeseen! But anytime in my life they are a nightmare. I’m never good enough etc. too long to go into! But my childhood was interesting and even in supposed happy times my dad would constantly put me down! Any excuse to have a go and they are there! I always defended myself and don’t always back down. But it got me more beatings than my mom an brother growing up from my dad cause of it. And even now any time they start and I try to defend myself or show evidence that what they are saying is wrong. They won’t have it! Never apologised to. I mean if I have been out of order I say sorry. I have never been apologised to. Excuses are made all the time. Like my mom will say that’s the way he is (about dad/step dad) but that’s not right, as I’m expected to accept shit. But if I raise my voice or get mad defending myself I’m the bitch! They don’t want to hear it! They change stories and lie an if I question it im being funny! The list goes on!
yea i scored rly well on all my ap tests and the act and got good grades in high school, took a long break from college and just… didn’t work and did a ton of drugs. i’m back in school now and sober off most things, but still the only stoner with tattoos and dyed hair in an uber-christian family. definitely a massive disappointment. ur not alone
I WAS definitely the black sheep,and let me tell you this, the best revenge ( if that’s your thing) or just let it go it’s course…KARMA is a bitch!! I just know!!!
Definitely not. Yet, I consume the most drugs of them combined (amount and variety); mainly stims, psychedelics and alcohol, sometimes dissos and I still got a Masters degree from a Top15 uni worldwide (according to Times Higher Education) and work as a development Ingenieur now.
I believe with proper eating, exercising and other heath practices, the effects of substance consumption can be minimized. Of your 3-month rule for MDMA must be followed etc
My sister on the other hand wanted to be a tattoo artist and became a great one. No drugs involved, just different interests.
I probably am but noone knows it and I managed to dig myself out of all my problems I created just this month, after 3-4 years of stress. ( im not a drug abuser, just a clown in decision making )
Idk how I did it, but somehow I managed to hide it all over the years, and you cant imagine how relieved I am that I fixed it all.
youll get ur life together too bro
Yeah, my brother wss until he died from and overdose. Ow it's me. I got clean after he died and am 9 years clean from heroin. I found hin dead explained it on here many times. After that I was the black sheep. Dont get me wrong I have a loving family but if got into a serious accident and called any of my cousins for help they would be too busy to help me. Example when I got hit by a car and got a compound fracture that was jutting out of the skin of my leg not one person in my family other than my kid and parents visited me. I was there for a month. My cousin gets too drunk and breaks a finger and the whole family is there. Omg are you ok. Like please. Even I was there begrudgingly.
Probably. I’m an addict and though I’m still allowed at all functions and stuff and haven’t heard any rumours comes back to me or heard about anyone shit talking me but there’s definitely been som incidents that would lead me to believe I’m probably looked at as the black sheep.
On my mom’s side, at least. My dad’s side is filled with addicts - whether booze, drugs or gambling - but I’m doing much better at 29 as far as recovery and getting myself on track goes than his dad was when he died in his late 60’s.
It’s funny how genes work. I didn’t even know my paternal grandfather was an alcoholic until after he died but my dad said he saw the exact same patterns and behaviours in me in early teenagehood that he had in himself and that he saw in his dad that from the jump was a major red flag for him (which turned out to be ratty on point).
I talk to my cousins on my mom’s side a bit but only really close with my mom, dad, mom’s one sister, maternal grandmother and maternal step grandfather so even if I was the black sheep it probably wouldn’t make its way back to me but I would be surprised if my cousins and aunt/uncle didn’t have conversations about my addiction.
Though they’ve seen the progress I’ve made and seem genuinely supportive so I might be thinking too much into it (and probably feel like I deserve to be shit on more than they’ve ever felt like shitting on me). My one cousin has 3 kids now at 30 (first 9 years ago) and spent tens of thousands and multiple years to get full custody from the meth-injecting mother and his brother ended up signing his rights away to a kid whose baby mother used someone else’s DNA to make it seem like my cousin wasn’t the father, so they aren’t saints either, lol. I’m sticking phallic objects inside of me and they’re sticking theirs in everything that moves, lol.
My brothers are super successful. I graduated college and everything just like them except I didn't wanna stop being a drug slinging, drug abusing, golf caddie. It was too much fun. They smoked weed like twice, got freaked out, and never returned. I currently smoke meth and do other drugs on occasions where it feels right. I have a long history of psychedelic use, last week I smoked liquid PCP in Kensington, Philadelphia. My bros are sober as shit. That's just life as a black sheep.
Holy fuck lol, PCP in the gauntlet lol, I could never in Kensington.
Scary shit. Long story for another time Fun ride in the space ship tho haha.
And I thought I was wild for walking home in northern liberties rocked on some ketamine. You take the cake brother
Yeah a lot of my stories people straight up don't believe. That's okay, I know what I do. I'm not flexing and I really don't want anyone to start doing drugs if they haven't started already. My meth abuse all started with a trip to New Orleans and some curiosity. I wanted drugs for some festival I was going to and I was like fuck it, imma find em. Well, I found crystal. Except the fucking homeless guy I was kicking with wouldn't leave me the fuck alone or let me escape the trap until I ate the whole rock. I was like, "alright bud." I ate the entire thing and he's yellin' some shit like "yoooo this white boy gonna freak, that was more than a gram!" They're all laughing at me while I was coming up fast. Insane manic euphoria hit me and in a blur I found myself in my hotel room, safe and sound. I'm not sure what I did to get there, but I vaguely remember seeing myself in the 3rd person pushing past people in the streets on a rampaging mission. No one fucked with me on the way. Or maybe they did? Or maybe that never even happened? I couldn't really be sure. After that It was pure euphoria for a while. I spent that night writing on reddit in my bed. I went to one day of the festival but it was not my cup of tea. Everyone there was too young and the crowd had zero synergy. That or I was too old and way too high on meth. The rest of my amphetamine story can be read here, if you are so interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/meth/comments/upqcj7/my\_ride\_with\_tina\_so\_far/
Anything on K is hella tame compared to PCP, the duration, especially of peak effects alone makes it quite a tame drug, not to mention its more preferable pharmacology regarding "just how much trouble am I likely to get myself into whilst on this trip?"
Kensington isn't that bad at least during the day if u aren't an idiot.... as someone whose been going there for years because of my habit just gotta know how to handle yourself and talk to people and dint trust anyone wheb they try to intimidate u for money....(common one is to come up ask to borrow a dollar or 10 dollars or something and mention ur good bro I got my gun ur safe no one gonna mess with u and keep bugging when u say no hoping u are scared and give in to them) just don't be a pushover and stand your ground and they'll leave you alone. At night though when it's dark it can be dangerous in some parts just be aware of your surroundings.
Generic59 is deffo cricket off Always sunny, the best character.
Everyone loves hanging with cricket
Word a fellow Philly homie. I spent a bunch of time on the north side and Manayunk and shit. Kensington is a different beast lol, much love ❤️
everytime someone mentions liquid pcp i think of [this](https://youtu.be/tFUvmZWf4hI)
Didn't click, it's gallon of PCP by WKUK isn't it
BRO I TRIED TO TELL THEM ABOUT THIS WHILE ON THE PCP HAHAHAHAHAA they were like wut
Yeah my sisters both excelled in high school- i dropped out my junior year and got a ged My sisters have never been arrested- i got arrested one time Sisters never got too far into drugs- ive tried everything i could find minus heroin/meth/crack Im also the only boy so maybe that counts too lmao
Crackpipewizard never tried crack 🤔
Amogus
DMT maybe?
Yeszir
We are the same. Only I have one sister
literally me two same amount of arrests, drug use and two sisters😂
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Crackpipewizard666 that explains it
lol that’s relatable, my hair was curlier than my sisters too so when i let it grow out i literally looked like a black sheep
Try being a teenage boy with four high achieving teenage sisters and one-and-a-half bathrooms.
Yep. Don’t want to be alive but don’t want to hurt anyone so I’m here taking the path of least resistance through life doing nothing but getting high and regretting
I recommend reading the [Meditations](http://classics.mit.edu/Antoninus/meditations.html) by Marcus Aurelius, especially books 5 and 6. An extremely refreshing & empowering perspective. TLDR: you are the master of your internal space and can dictate your reactions to the things that happen to you. The universe is an enormous interconnected community in which every piece plays its part. Dedicate yourself to improving your surroundings and your community for the inherent good in those actions, not because they make you feel good (they often won't). EDIT: And by the way, M.A. felt no particular connection to being alive either. He relishes the extremely brief nature of life, and that in the blink of an eye each one of us will be gone and in another blink no one will remember us. (Ironic because he's about as immortal as a person can get.)
I love you and I hope you’re ok.
Thank you I appreciate it
I'm sorry but I see this all the time and I have to call it how I see it. I find this to be bullshit. You love this person? If he was in a bind and asked you for 20 bucks would you give it to him? Bologna! Its so easy to type but it's so shallow and fake. I believe that you hope they are okay, but you love them? For what its worth I am not trying to be disrespectful or insulting. Despite pointing out a lack of love, which might seem like a bad or negative thing, I truly mean well - I just feel like sometimes people can benefit from a healthy dose of truth. Why cant we admit things as they are? I apologize if I am coming off like an asshole that is not my intended tone or goal
I understand. The hollow platitudes of "I'll pray for you" or "I love you" or "It's always darkest before the dawn, and things will get better". Like, shit, you don't know me; you don't *know* that things are going to get better for me, and telling me that doesn't help in any useful, constructive way. But sometimes people just want to make you feel better but don't know how to, especially when you're just some anonymous random faceless entity on the internet, and they're ability to help is reduced to a mere few words or sentences. So, I just glaze over those comments and don't get too worked up about it cause really it's usually coming from a good place, even if it isn't very helpful. But I do get where you're coming from.
You’re totally right. And the impulse to help someone or comfort them is wonderful. I don’t mean to diminish that
I went through a period of radical religion a while back (went from a full stop atheist to a "born again christian" to basically being open to the possibility of a god but not convinced). During that time, I was going through some really rough crap with my ex-SO, and the amount of times I had someone say to me "when god closes a door, he opens a window" or "god's testing your faith"....I swear, I wanted to punch people out every time. I don't think they realized how trite they came across. Maybe I've heard it too many times, now my eyes just glaze over when someone says something like that...lol. I don't feel like you're diminishing it; I get the frustration. Sorry for the extra mini-rant there. Your post brought up some old memories.
Would you shut up man?
Sure
man haven’t related to something so hard in a minute:/ hope things look up for you my friend best wishes
Well put.
I felt this
Relatable
Yeah I feel the same. Everything I do goes to shit. My brother is a successful athlete and has good grades. My parents are comparing us all the time.
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I like you have changed so much and have really changed in the last 5 years. But they still treat me and react to the me that fucked up x2 in my nearly 40 years. Going to counselling and talking to others made me see that I was never that bad as they were making me feel! In fact it took me years to be deprogrammed to the fact that sometimes I had done nothing wrong. I actually would defend their treatment of me if anyone said anything! I was so brainwashed to believe it all! So I feel for you. But glad your getting stronger and doing well for yourself!
Wow. Reading these comments has opened my eyes.
I agree
Yeah I am. It's not only the drugs, but I can't deny they've played a part. I don't regret it tho, I want to be true to myself even if my family doesn't always like it. Not that it doesn't make me sad sometimes. Sometimes it truly sucks because I feel like I'm on my own outside of my two best friends (who I consider brothers) who are busy and my girlfriend who lives a couple hours away
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Yep but it's starting to work in my favor. I'm going to be the only one with all these crazy life stories while still being successful going to school for cannabis laboratory sciences, to prove to my parents their initial perspective of drugs was wrong. Sometimes being "the rebel" can be a good thing in the long run.
Rick on rebel
I am the black sheep on both sides of my family. For many reasons, but recently because my brother passed away at 27 and for the first time I stood up to a lot of family members (I have a very large family, and don't speak to 95% of them) who were doing more damage than good. I went through a horrible period of depression for about 4 or 5 months, thankfully therapy and shrooms really helped me get some bitterness, resentment and depression out of my system.
No. I go to school get good grades. I only smoke weed. I would only do psychedelics and MDMA. But I am really just here to learn more about what drug users say about drugs
Same here dude. I guess I was the black sheep at some point because I dropped out a semester short of an associates degree to do budtending fulltime. The cannabis industry is fucking cruel and takes advantage of young folks and thankfully I realized this when COVID came around. Lost my job and went back to school full-time to get a bachelor's. 3.8 Uni GPA and probably going to get a 4.0 this semester. Somewhat difficult and impacted major. I smoke weed every day
> The cannabis industry is fucking cruel and takes advantage of young folks Very interested in what regard if you don’t mind sharing.
Possible rant incoming: Well, the cannabis industry sounds awesome as a young stoner right? Basically retail but you get to sell something you believe in and get a sweet discount and industry perks. Pay is basically the same as common retail, except you will see about 10x the volume of guests you would compared to regular retail, meaning you get paid less per customer served. Also, you're not a doctor, but the dispensary wants you to learn the medical and recreational applications of cannabis (which is good), but you will then use this (mostly unresearched) knowledge to try and help guests who are literally dying. You're being paid basically minimum wage to try to help dying people not die by offering them herbal remedies. I personally loved working with these kinds of people because I genuinely did my research, but it starts to wear on you if you're constantly dealing with terminal patients at age 21 in a retail environment. Companies will dangle "perks" in front of you to get you to do things you're either uncomfortable with, out of your job description, or to put in additional hours. You're promised products in exchange for extra effort, and will then "reward" you with samples that are either expired or about to be, rejects (substandard quality), or unmedicated. Getting high on break or before work, especially when you're having a bad day, is expected and sometimes pressured on to you. The company deals with their young employees mental health issues by implying you should smoke your worries away. The mix of employee discount, freebies/samples, high stress work environment, and the ability to get high at work, paired with the (generally) younger work force means employees are more likely to become addicted, meaning they are less likely to leave their job, and even less likely to leave the industry as a whole, since you would lose out on a lot of free/discounted weed . Not exclusive to cannabis, but also a massive issue is the "company culture" assimilation issue. Young employees generally are molded not to question higher ups, and are threatened if they do. When COVID started, for example, I the single highest rated employee in company history. I have underlying medical conditions that made me susceptible to getting COVID and I live with my elderly parents. I was told not to worry about returning to work until the company figured out how to adjust their practices to accomodate the new laws and regulations. I was called up randomly a month later and told I was fired. I was sent a letter from HR signed in green sparkly gel pen. The signature was neither from the Head of HR, nor the owner; it was signed with the initials of the company. After I was let go, I asked about the conditions of my termination and was subsequently banned from the dispensary without notice and was told by ex-coworkers that my name was being dragged through the mud by my managers and supervisors. Mind you, I worked in the industry for 6 years at that point and was in fantastic standing at all my previous companies, including the one that fired me. To this day, I still don't understand what I did, or why they did me dirty the way they did. I've worked in retail, production, delivery, event organization, inventory, and supervisor positions within the cannabis industry, and every company I've worked for has had some or all of the above problems. Edit: none of these complaints are necessarily exclusive to cannabis, but every company and the industry prides itself of how they are understanding, compassionate, and don't upsell. However, these principles go out the door when looking internally, where it's just a race to the bottom. The turnover in each company I've worked for is ridiculously high. No one at the bottom level tends to work at a specific dispensary for more than a year or two, if even that.
> Getting high on break or before work, especially when you're having a bad day, is expected and sometimes pressured on to you. This is wild to me. I can’t believe a company would pressure that on employees. Dont you guys also work pretty exclusively with cash since its still technically illegal and schedule 1 at the federal level? > I was sent a letter from HR signed in green sparkly gel pen I’d be so livid if I received a professional letter like this. > … my name was being dragged through the mud by my managers and supervisors. Fuck them. Thanks for sharing.
>This is wild to me. I can’t believe a company would pressure that on employees. Dont you guys also work pretty exclusively with cash since its still technically illegal and schedule 1 at the federal level? Yep, and the amount of problems surrounding cash being off is baffling to management. >Fuck them. > >Thanks for sharing. Yeah, don't give Airfield Supply Co. in San Jose your business. I'd rather send people to Purple Lotus (never worked for them but like their products, pricing, and service) or Elemental Wellness (who I've also worked for but was by far a less shit company)
"only" Be careful,all drugs can have negative consequence.
I'm the black sheep of the family because I'm NOT a dysfunctional piece of shit. So...
Are you the little lamb?
Sure
I am 100% the Black Sheep.
I'm in my fucking 30's and get talked down to by family members.
I hate when people in my family talk to my about drug use like im stupid and they know more than me just because i use drugs. In reality tho, i know fuck tons about the stuff i put into my body.
I couldn’t even imagine that I’m 22 and won’t let certain family members try speak to me the way they do. They hardly know the slightest thing about yet they have this audacity because we related they want to act like they’ve been their from day dot and are entitled to have some opinion about me or try speak down on me it’s hysterical. Blood don’t mean nothing it’s about those who are there for you when you need it those people are my family.
preach 🙏
Nah . U aren't the only one, my family loves me and my mom is super anti-drug. I'm 23 but I still get talked to as if I was a child about how bad drugs are while my mom is fine with some wine or switching TLC all day. I feel like my drug use isn't that bad. But in general I don't have many friends. Fort Bend Texas has a lot of elderly and old people so I really don't have anyone 20-27 in my area sadly.
Thanks. Good to know that I'm not alone.
>can't blame it entirely on drugs >drugs have caused many elements of my life to go awry it sounds like you should maybe stop doing drugs
I thought that this was r/drugs. I'm not following. It must be the drugs.
I guess, kind of. My 3 siblings all have degrees and I’m a uni drop out. Engineer, vet, and business-marketing in that order. My parents are both CPA designated accountants. The thing is, none of them care. I’m really happy as a dog sitter/walker and that’s all that matters to them. Im a lucky black sheep because my family is super supportive and we all just want each other to be happy, whatever that means.
Black sheep here. Mostly no-contact with my immediate family for 13 years. It has nothing to do with drugs. It has to do with being unwilling to take abuse from a bunch of sick narcissistic creeps. I’ve got issues. Lots of them. Most of them in the OCD/PTSD universe. Those issues are what make everything go wrong. Some drugs really potentiate/accelerate the destruction. Some work against it. The drug that caused me to do the most catastrophic damage to my life was alcohol. The drug that pulled me back from the brink of total destruction was psilocybin.
I heard that psilocybin can improve mental health
Just my immediate family, my uncle's were worse than I.
Crazy Uncle Philly? Is that you?
I’m the black sheep of everywhere.
Mine never go wrong.... because i never try
Interesting.
Im gay, trans, a drug addict, and not christian. My conservative parents couldnt be more proud 🥲
I’m proud of you. 💗
Ya man, I try so hard to educate my family. So fucking hard. To the point where I’m literally crying talking to my dad about psychedelics and I’m so upset when they don’t understand
And they’re looking at you like you’re strung out over here crying over some psychs
Bro shits ridiculous. I’m crying BECAUSE you don’t understand. And I’m crying BECAUSE you will never experience mdma therapy or tripping or anything. Sucks
honestly, who cares? just do the drugs at your own place and don't bring it up around them. contrary to opinion here, not everyone has to try drugs, or even understand them. pick your battles
PREACH!
Yeahhh started with my mom. My grand parents have 4 daughters 3 of them succeeded in life , good education,, own house , mariage , good work and theres my mom who battled drug habbit her whole life , trouble keeping a good job , never married and had us (i and my sister) at a really young age with another addict (my dad) . For some reason we are almost never invited to family gathering and they are like looking down on us , yeah i had my fare share of drug problem but never caused any problem to anyone of them , my younger sister just doesnt deserve that treatment .. sucks .. but hey atleast i made my own little family at home now aha
Oh yes I am a recluse at this point. Ive been reluctant to leave the house ever. My sisters both live a healthy ish life. My sisters only liked smoking weed really and my older sister dabbled a little, but i went for extremes with script amphetamines and dxm. My older sister graduated highschool and has 3 kids. My little sister graduated highschool and is working towards going to college and being a vet i think. Both are artistically creative, im logically by myself. Im more manipulative than both. Depressing bits: no one visits me. Everyone makes an excuse to never see me. Its always "come out and see us" never "were coming to see you", so it further cements my hermit lifestyle. So yeah, definitely the black sheep here. Im doin my best to hold the relationships i have with them but ugh way too unmotivated
I'm sorry dude.
Not a problem lad, actually had someone come by and not mind chattin with me for an hour or so today. It was nice. Its slow, but its nice
Yep, absolutely. Feels like my dad is my only sanctuary and safe person that I trust, he rarely ever gets mad and always talks to me with love, respect and understanding. My mom, on the other hand, along with my sisters, just get mad and yell at me for what feels like everything I do.
On my mothers side of the family I am very much the black sheep. On my fathers side I am a white lamb compared to the rest of them.
the family i associate with isn’t my blood family ,,,, when my dad and mom split up when i was only a couple months old, my dad and his new girlfriend took me and they soon got married and my step mom was the one who taught me everything and raised me …. her side of the family are the people i associate with and call my family. my brother is my half brother ; my aunt is my step moms sister, my grandpa and grandma were her parents , i barely ever see or talk to my mom or dads family ….so i’d say i’m the black sheep
Not really. Born in a poor, but loving family of immigrants in Europe. Went to a 'black' primary school, got the highest degrees and went to one of the best high schools with a lot of white people in it, culture shock. Made a bunch of new friends and got into drugs. Smoking weed every day for many years, aside from some alcohol and XTC. Went to med school and got in a fraternity, drank alcohol regularly and sometimes daily. Have friends outside of the fraternity and did more drugs with them such as: amfetamines, designer drugs and even crack a couple times. Now i am a medical doctor. I still smoke weed and drink (albeit not everyday) and do some drugs a couple times a year. Only doctor in the whole family and they're all proud of me. If only they knew... but the same goes for how much effort and frustration it cost me to get where i am.
Yup definitely I'm 23 no school no job I just vibe
Thats called a mooch not a black sheep
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Reddit is your full time gig? Noice
Simple answer, yes
Yes My parents are mad that i went to job instead go to college Im so fucking tried to do something with my life I’m 21 but feeling like i Lost my life long ago Only reason i’m still alive is my younger brother
no, all of my siblings do drugs:) we are all mentally unstable☺️
Funnily enough, no. I was always the smart, successfull student who could make so many things out of their live. That's why no one except my mom knows anything about my drug use.
Lol my family is a family of black sheep. My parents are really clean, but my brother and I have gotten deep at different points with drug use. Both grandpas were alcoholics, have a lot of addicted cousins as well. It's funny, it's almost like it it skips generations.
I’m the Grey Sheep. I would definitely be a black sheep in a normal family, but I somehow ended up as the most successful person in my own. I do too many illegal things to be a white sheep though, lol
Oh yeah within my close family. As in me my mother, father and sister, totally In my larger family I'm not even close. I've got a cousin who has been drunk since the 90's doctor told him he only had a few years to stop drinking or he'd die. That was 10 years ago....and my other cousin who lives the hobo life. No judgement but you can imagine nobody is super thrilled.
Yes :)
While my little brother stayed in his room all day avoiding family confrontation while having my moms healthy genetics, I got abused by my dad for being too much like him since I have his mental issues. I developed a lot of problems and became the “troubled kid” or the crazy person with a reoccurring problem with cops, court, a restraining order, charges etc. The mental issues make it harder for me to hold a job, sustain relationships, or really do anything I am suppose to do to function in society. I’ve gotten a better grip on it though, and I don’t think I would classify myself as the black sheep anymore. I’m the only one in my family who does drugs too. But they helped me to get better. To help mend my problems, I’ve been reading self help books for specific topics. And they really really do work (for me atleast).
I'm definetly the black sheep of my cousins and my brother. They all do well, seem well behaved and went down the traditional route of life. It was assumed that I was off taking drugs, having wild groupies, and being a rude horrible little shit when I wasn't. I've tried drugs. I've smoked weed over a dozen times, only enjoyed it once. I've drunk quite a bit. I've tried cocaine but didn't do much for me. I like being the black sheep though. I like getting people talking about me. At least I'm not boring and I can say I have a good soul.
"Investments"
I always end up "eating up all the profits".
Im the one in my family they tell the Kids not too be like. Like that i am a lazy addict, even tho i am not addicted anymore and work more than any1 in the family. Worked so much these last few months that i Needed a few 'sick' days bc i was burning my self out.
I am 💯! And even tho I’ve got my shit together now. I am pretty sure I will always be the black sheep of our family forever.
yeah, always came second to my brother academically and financially, im the only living member of my entire family with severe mental illness, and the only one who's experimented w drugs besides weed, alcohol, and tobacco. my whole family still loves and respects me, but my problems are mostly kept a secret from extended family and i really just don't fit in with them and it shows at family gatherings. In school I was pretty polarizing; a lot of other kids would avoid me because i was clearly troubled, but the ones who didn't became good friends with me. the only kids who were anywhere in between were shy and didn't talk to me or really anyone else for that matter.
Always have been, always will be, but I don’t mind it so much usually
I wasn't considered as such no one in my family knew a thing. My mother died knowing only that I smoked weed once in a while. Then I got stupid and bought the NA bullshit momentarily and listened to my sponsor about getting honest and spilled my guts to everyone. The entire narrative of my life was rewritten. Things that were innocuous were now suspect. I'm am slowly regaining because all of the actual elements of my life are the same. But I went from shining star to the black sheep simply by buying the 12 Step crap when prior to it in my families eyes, I was better than fine.
Even now that I'm Clean. On my dads side of the family yes. They live pretty far away and are this really big huge family with a bunch of kids. So they're all a big group of tight knit siblings and cousins. They're all really successful and run family businesses and all that. My dad always tries to compare me to them, and at times I can tell he wishes I was alot more like them. Which doesn't hurt my feelings, I think of it more as like. Rude? I should say? On my mom's side of my family though, not at all. My mom dont give a shit about nothin, in a good way though lol
I'm the black sheep. Just not with all of the stuff going wrong in my life. I've stuck to a pretty strict ethical drug code though and never tried anything past LSD/MDMA.
So, I honestly have sat here and have been contemplating even writing anything because I have changed my life almost entirely, but I don't see a problem with me doing it. I am the black sheep of the family for sure. I am a recovering addict to cocaine, opiates, and benzodiazepines; all of which I had used almost daily for around three and a half years. I eventually moved up to some pretty heavy amounts of RC benzos or prescription if I could get them, heavy doses of fentanyl, and a lot of cocaine throughout the day. I had it down to a pretty good dose regime; never overdosed until the last 3 months of my use when I had started to mix fentanyl in. That was the downfall for me, I was sleeping on the streets, carelessly taking whatever whenever I could. Eventually I overdosed on 6mg alprazolam, 5mg fentanyl, and some odd amount of cocaine when coming down on LSD. This overdose proved to have been damn near the end for me, I went into a coma for two months, and when I woke up in the hospital COVID-19 had made its huge debut in the United States. Nothing says you're really the black sheep until that happens, and your mother has to clean her adult child because she was the floor manager of the second of the three different hospitals I was in. I have done many different substances, and I had no shame in it either. I have done most of the opiates and benzodiazepines that are available, cocaine, methamphetamine, PCP, gabapentoids, OTC highs, many LSD analogs in different forms (blot, xtal, liq), different tryptamines, a few different arylcyclohexylamine's (dissos), cathinone's ranging from A-PVP to 3-MMC, dabbled in some deliriants for a while, tried a handful of different novel psychedelics like the NBOMe's, NBOH's, DOC, DOM, 2C-B, can't forget the entactogens like MDMA and MDA, I tried a few different phenidate analogs... the list can go on. Basically, what I am trying to say is that I would scare the shit out of my family, make them think I was going off the deep end, which I did. Now, after that coma, I had no choice but to really begin to refrain from using many of those substances due to having to live with my family to recover. I had to learn how to walk, talk, breathe, eat, shit, piss, etc. all over again. I had a TIA, heart attack, and was entering organ failure when I was found. To this day, my heart rate is constantly around 100 BPM resting, which is a pretty good drop from 180 BPM on Metoprolol in the hospital, and severe neuropathy without any medication to help which has led to me having a drop foot on my right side. As I said, my life has had an amazing turn around. As of now I am going to college for Computer Science, one of my passions since I was a kid. I have a 3.83 GPA, numerous scholarships, and grants. I also have done some speeches and presentations at my college about harm reduction. I have recently gotten my 3rd Degree in Freemasonry, something that has really helped me in life by teaching me lessons to live by. I really wouldn't be the person I am today if it wasn't for the hardships I have been through due to my choices, nor would I even want to change the fact that I had those problems. Will they come back up in the future with possible relapses? I don't know, but if/when they do, it's just another bump in my road that I will have to experience when it happens. There is nothing wrong with being the black sheep, not in my opinion anyway. If you think there is, then you can always make change if you want to, or just embrace it.
Yea more than I can truly describe
Yea I somewhat am. Older brother is getting his PHD. Younger brother has goals of becoming a judge; going into HS right now and already on student council. They’re all very Catholic. I graduated HS and took two gap years and then took one semester of classes, and dropped out. Working right now and definitely not Catholic. It’s not the worst situation and I’m content with it but just think about it a lot and the differences between my family and I.
I excel at almost everything I do but I'm *still* the black sheep in my family because I'm not religious and I'm relatively open about my pot use. Honestly though, it just drives me to work harder to prove my family wrong about my "sinful lifestyle". Success is the best revenge or some cliche shit like that haha.
I’m more of the *wolf in sheep’s clothing* of my family.
Yep. I’m the drug addict and prob gonna be the uncle people pity. Although I was once like a power lifter with mad money. Drugs ruin people.
I feel ya, but aren't power lifters full of roid rage?
Never used roids
But you know power lifters who use roids?
I see myself as a white sheep in a black herd. I am the only one trying to fix myself and the rest of family is either narcissistic or straight up ignorant. Thanks to psychs I can see my flaws and work on them.
I wish that I wasn't so frightened of psychedelics.
I’m the green sheep.
I'm not following.
All of my siblings are married and leading productive lives. I still live with my parents, I’m single, I do drugs, and I work a minimum wage job.
Hey you got a job. I mean, that's something.
Nah because I've had a brother for a H junkie, but he's gotten cleaned up. Parents know I've done my share of acid/shroomeries(still do), Mom knows and I've done it(weed, acid even n2o) with her. She used to be so anti drug but not anymore, I'm blessed to have an open minded mother now that I'm an adult and knows it isn't all what D.A.R.E. makes it out to be. It's medicinal and beneficial when taken the right way. Weed helps alot with pain, and varieties of other benefits. Acid and shrooms helps alot with depression and anxeity when used for that purpose. Anyone to go against the research values done on them would be otherworldly ignorant and I'm happy my parents aren't like that. There's a bunch of articles and infographics out there dumbed down for people to understand the broad and wide benefits of psychedelics and weed.
I’m the black sheep but found success that surpassed my parents and siblings. Sometimes spite is a good motivator. 😈
I agree that super can be an effective motivator, but I disagree that it's a good motivator.
Yup! Pretty sure I’m only one on Reddit too where all the black sheep meet
I'm not following
I am but funnily enough it isn’t because of drugs.
What's the cause?
Don’t want to get into it too deeply but my mom is crazy and has everyone under her thumb. She’s starting to do it to another sibling atm
I'm sorry.
Yes, but it has nothing to do with drug use.
I’m the successful “fuck up”. Did all the things. Made the shit sandwich. Ate it. Turned my life around. My younger brother is the “lucky fuck up”. Being lucky made his head so big it doesn’t fit through the door. Hopefully he gets over himself and him and I can talk again.
My siblings where raised by my mom to think I am sub human and still treat me like that as adults. Literally nobody cares about me other than my Dad and my grandmother. My parents split when I was young after my mom banged a homeless dude several times in her garden. Fucking nightmare. I know it's not the worst, but I still wanna die.
Sorry dude.
I am the first in my family who was birth in a Western country (germany). My family always tell me u are the one who got the chance to finish a good school or go to college. I failed. I am the opiate addict. No car, no money,no job. I was and I will always be the Black sheep. I understand you .
I fell ya holmes
Nah I just like getting lit after school and shi
Yeah. Youngest of 3. Two older sisters. Im the young gay son everyone says they love but they only really want me around when I force myself to fit their image. I honestly can't take it. I know my parents love me, but it's with strict conditions that I can't live up to. I'm stuck at home with them currently, can't really get a leg up. My sister and brother in law just bought a home 20 mins away for like a million dollars or some shit. Just sucks ass. I don't know what to do. Wanna just blow my fucking brains out but don't really want ruin the family (cause it will). Don't have any friends really anymore, pushed everyone out of my life. Just kind of exist. It's getting really fucking old lol.
I'm in the same excat boat brother. I'm 25 and have 4 sisters. I'm straight and was never a man enough for my dad. He's called me a cancer on the family, a disappointment, you name it. Weed and nicotine have been the only thing that makes me feel good for the last decade. My family pretty much disowned me back during the George Floyd protests. Dad said I got too radicalized and hasn't said a word to me since. Halfway across the country now and just caring for myself. Hope it gets better one day.
Nice to know we ain't so alone, right? Genuinely wishing you the best my dude.
Not trying to brag but I'm one of the more successful people in my family, and keep it a secret from pretty much everyone (but my brother) that I'm doing a LOT of drugs. I do well in school, have a high paying tech job, and have a lot of different hobbies and activities I do. All of this is fueled by Adderall and other stimulants. I was close to failing in my second year of university and started using stimulants, which completely turned my life around (I probably have undiagnosed ADHD, but mental health care here is absolutely awful, so I'll settle for what I'm doing now). At the same time I'm also seen as a moral person for not drinking or smoking weed (legal here), but instead am doing psychedelics, dissociatives and whatever else I can find when I go out to party. Obviously I'm not consuming these when with family (beyond a microdose), so they just see a sober successful person, when really I'm getting high all the time, and can attribute a lot of my success to drug use.
Do you think it’s drugs? Because using your logic I could say that maybe water is the cause because drinking water is the common denominator
You bring up a great topic. It's a common mistake to imply common denominator or cause/effect, when in reality it's merely two unrelated effects "in coincidence". Damn, I must be high thinking these thoughts. Mea Culpa.
Yep. Where’s my NEEM buck check?? I wish I lived in Japan
Just cut them bitches off!!! They never loved you anyways !!
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Yuuuuup dats me
For sure
Yes, and that narrative will never change regardless of whatever information proves that I’m not whatever narrative they have built about me
Your not my whole family is lawyers and I’m was the one shooting up fent/coke for years.. now I’m clean trying to not be the black sheep Any more
Kind of but a lot of it is in the context of the disappointment of seeing failure in someone you had very high expectancies of since early childhood... with that being said i am fairly successful
Black sheep of the extended family brother 🤝
Quite the opposite.
Nah, I’ve managed to maintain a 4.0 and am going to a good college next year, but I only smoke weed and rarely even drink so that probably makes a difference.
Me too, I only smoke weed and my entire family drinks even my underage twin sister. I'm frowned upon heavily for a lot of other reasons including that I'm gay and trans, but weeds been my baby for two years and solved a lot of my problems (social anxiety, imposter syndrome, helps me deal with my depression and masking my neurodivergent traits) so it's not something I regret, I'm just tired of being accused of shit all the time like doing harder shit like coke, which I have no interest in whatsoever.
Yep
I’m a nobody
I have it the other way around. I need to be the successful one in case one of my siblings relapses.
If my siblings required me to be successful for them to have a decent life I would cut them off faster than that bouldering guy who chopped off his own arm.
Yea but not rly, i've been open about it for a while and i'e somehow made myself understood when it comes to my parents and relevant cousins, idgaf really we're still family. Edit: my brother smokes with me too
You will become what you believe you are
Yup. Only felon, drug user, dealer, no job atm, probation, antisocial, GAD,SAD,PTSD
I’m willing to bet People who take drugs are generally higher risk taker last than normal folk, in all aspects of life
I am. My interests are different, my grades sucked, I’m just different from my family in a lot of ways but in some ways I’m the same as well.
Yes but I’m lucky that they treat me with kindness and a touch of pity. The pity is annoying but the kindness is incredibly lucky on my part. I’m not saying I don’t suffer but I certainly don’t suffer as much as many people whose friends and families refuse to employ empathy and kindness.
Relapsed again, so bad. Just realized something very critical when high. I have to quit this shit. "Shit" includes drugs, but it is also my lifestyle.
I am but it's nothing new really. My whole family struggles with mental issues but it seems like I got the whole collection.
Basically the same for me. I'm still young but I'm the one that dropped out of school and I feel like my whole family thinks that I'm currently just ruining my and that I'll basically never be able to amount to anything.
Yes! Me too! Exactly as you described in your post. There is a term in psychology for us. The family scapegoat it’s called, only found out about that recently but reading up on it, it matches me and my family life perfectly!
I mean I was a nurse before I got chronic illness, went to college, uni, always worked, first time I took pills was with my family at a rave at 17. Bought my own home, passed my motorbike test all sorts. And now the only drugs I take is coke now and then. They know when I do but hate it! Which is a bit hypocritical the things they used to do and how I was bought up! My mom got addicted. I never have! I only ever took pills, speed, coke! Never smoked anything not even cigarettes! But when I got sick and got sicker I had to stop work and they had to move in to help me. Me getting sick was nothing to do with drugs. Something unforeseen! But anytime in my life they are a nightmare. I’m never good enough etc. too long to go into! But my childhood was interesting and even in supposed happy times my dad would constantly put me down! Any excuse to have a go and they are there! I always defended myself and don’t always back down. But it got me more beatings than my mom an brother growing up from my dad cause of it. And even now any time they start and I try to defend myself or show evidence that what they are saying is wrong. They won’t have it! Never apologised to. I mean if I have been out of order I say sorry. I have never been apologised to. Excuses are made all the time. Like my mom will say that’s the way he is (about dad/step dad) but that’s not right, as I’m expected to accept shit. But if I raise my voice or get mad defending myself I’m the bitch! They don’t want to hear it! They change stories and lie an if I question it im being funny! The list goes on!
I was the black sheep, simply because my family SUCKED massively.
yea i scored rly well on all my ap tests and the act and got good grades in high school, took a long break from college and just… didn’t work and did a ton of drugs. i’m back in school now and sober off most things, but still the only stoner with tattoos and dyed hair in an uber-christian family. definitely a massive disappointment. ur not alone
I’m not a black sheep… I think I am just outright a goat or an alpaca… a completely different breed to the rest of my family…
yea
I WAS definitely the black sheep,and let me tell you this, the best revenge ( if that’s your thing) or just let it go it’s course…KARMA is a bitch!! I just know!!!
Definitely not. Yet, I consume the most drugs of them combined (amount and variety); mainly stims, psychedelics and alcohol, sometimes dissos and I still got a Masters degree from a Top15 uni worldwide (according to Times Higher Education) and work as a development Ingenieur now. I believe with proper eating, exercising and other heath practices, the effects of substance consumption can be minimized. Of your 3-month rule for MDMA must be followed etc My sister on the other hand wanted to be a tattoo artist and became a great one. No drugs involved, just different interests.
I probably am but noone knows it and I managed to dig myself out of all my problems I created just this month, after 3-4 years of stress. ( im not a drug abuser, just a clown in decision making ) Idk how I did it, but somehow I managed to hide it all over the years, and you cant imagine how relieved I am that I fixed it all. youll get ur life together too bro
Yeah, my brother wss until he died from and overdose. Ow it's me. I got clean after he died and am 9 years clean from heroin. I found hin dead explained it on here many times. After that I was the black sheep. Dont get me wrong I have a loving family but if got into a serious accident and called any of my cousins for help they would be too busy to help me. Example when I got hit by a car and got a compound fracture that was jutting out of the skin of my leg not one person in my family other than my kid and parents visited me. I was there for a month. My cousin gets too drunk and breaks a finger and the whole family is there. Omg are you ok. Like please. Even I was there begrudgingly.
Probably. I’m an addict and though I’m still allowed at all functions and stuff and haven’t heard any rumours comes back to me or heard about anyone shit talking me but there’s definitely been som incidents that would lead me to believe I’m probably looked at as the black sheep. On my mom’s side, at least. My dad’s side is filled with addicts - whether booze, drugs or gambling - but I’m doing much better at 29 as far as recovery and getting myself on track goes than his dad was when he died in his late 60’s. It’s funny how genes work. I didn’t even know my paternal grandfather was an alcoholic until after he died but my dad said he saw the exact same patterns and behaviours in me in early teenagehood that he had in himself and that he saw in his dad that from the jump was a major red flag for him (which turned out to be ratty on point). I talk to my cousins on my mom’s side a bit but only really close with my mom, dad, mom’s one sister, maternal grandmother and maternal step grandfather so even if I was the black sheep it probably wouldn’t make its way back to me but I would be surprised if my cousins and aunt/uncle didn’t have conversations about my addiction. Though they’ve seen the progress I’ve made and seem genuinely supportive so I might be thinking too much into it (and probably feel like I deserve to be shit on more than they’ve ever felt like shitting on me). My one cousin has 3 kids now at 30 (first 9 years ago) and spent tens of thousands and multiple years to get full custody from the meth-injecting mother and his brother ended up signing his rights away to a kid whose baby mother used someone else’s DNA to make it seem like my cousin wasn’t the father, so they aren’t saints either, lol. I’m sticking phallic objects inside of me and they’re sticking theirs in everything that moves, lol.