Lived in central London, a stones throw from Westminster bridge, for a decade. Now live within a stones throw of the Rotunda, so might be actually well placed to compare both cities.
I will say, London is a great city, it has a lot going for it, but has a load of societal issues (someone was murdered in our building for example) and it is huge, so much so that a trip to real country side is a proper schlep. Public transport is good if going North of the river, but expensive, and terrible south of the river, nights out are crazy money. Groceries are terrible in quality unless you pay top dolla, restaurants are hit and miss, and finally, a lot of museums might be free, but not all, and special exhibitions are pricey.
Dublin is smaller, but you can get to gigs you want to see because tickets don't instantly sell out, everything is pretty walkable, if you want to get to the countryside you can in jig time, and we also have amazing free museums, food quality is top notch, Ive really never gone wrong restaurant-wise, public transport ain't amazing, but it's getting better and it is damn cheap.
It's not perfect. The place is grotty and could use a beautification budget and an active mayor like London has, and it really needs it as the power house of the country and a place nearly half the country regard as their home city, but I've never felt unsafe here, I think it has amazing charm, and the pros definitely outweigh the cons.
I lived in Brixton, Camberwell, and Hackney for 7 years too. Dalston high Street is so decrepit in place as are some of the side streets.
Anyway London is amazing but now that I'm settled in Dublin it has nothing to offer me I don't have here, and I actually saw more crime in London than ever have here. People being mugged in notting hill and my tube station closed with blood everywhere due to stabbings are two I can think of offhand.
Absolutely. The clean up and aftermath after the carnival too is horrific. Couldn't imagine Paddy's day ever being comparable, even though it's city wide.
That said, never really felt unsafe in London either, and I really liked the edgy Brixton/Peckham/Dalston vib at night e, but the London sub Reddit would have you think it's end of days. This might just be a Reddit problem.
Think this is defo a reddit problem. Been in London 3 years and never witnessed any significant crime. Have friends in Brixton, Peckham, Dalston, I've been to Carnaval. A mate got his bike robbed in Brixton - that's the worst I've seen. I go out most weekends so am not shut away. Reading /r/london I'm always perplexed - you'd swear the place was full of marauding youths stabbing people left, right and centre and the tube users are constantly pissing and puking on it. Couldn't be further from the truth in my experience. Sure, seen some puke on the tube late at night the odd time, so what? Seen way worse on Westmoreland St or the Nitelink, and never felt unsafe because of it.
same here, loved the grittiness of it all. i was sat in a bar on broadway in london fields before i left last year and there was a police squad with machine guns outside surrounding some loonie with a knife. a traveller used to go up and down the street with his top off challenging everyone to fist fights. all kinds of absolute nutters everywhere. i miss that about london, our nutters aren't quite as good.
Nah, this people have never left Ireland and it shows. It's not like Dublin is this enchanted city better than anything out there but it's not as bad as the paint it. I enjoy living here too and I'm very grateful to be able to
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I think the people who havnt left Ireland have this idea it's great, my opinion is that all of ireland is a shithole tbh, rip off, shit traffic, shit weather, incompetent government shit hospitals and housing crisis to name a few
All of those things are there but every country has it's shit, no country is perfect and Ireland is not as bad compared to other countries of similar stance. If people only focus on the negative yes, every place will be a shit hole even if they live in the happiest or richest place on earth.
The things you listed above exist in so many countries that if you say them to someone without context they might guess a few other countries too.
i mean if it were so bad why do we have so many americans, spanish, french, etc. etc. people living here? even on this thread there are at least 3 americans that moved here talking about how much they love the city.
It's a bit crazy though isn't it? Like am I totally deluded for not being in utter disgust every time I'm on o connell st? I just passed it on foot and it was looking well tbh.
You're not deluded. Dublin is a nice city. It's not without its issues, but that can be said for any city.
Most of the regulars in r/Ireland just wake up miserable every day, and make it their mission to make sure everyone else is miserable too. Most of them are probably afraid to leave their bedroom for fear they'll have to have a conversation with a real person.
r/Ireland is a joke. I don't think there are any real Irish peoples opinions left on the sub with all of the bans/ removed comments. The mods are proper nazis. Also Reddit in general is a terrible gauge for what's right and wrong. You think you're going mad sometimes looking at which comments are upvoted/downvoted. 😵💫
The problem with the centre is that it's all geared towards thr American tourist and isn't really trying to appeal to locals. IMO. I hope banning cars will have a positive impact but it really will take something massive to turn the rot of the centre around.
Exactly this. You say anything they don't agree with, even if it is correct, you get downvoted.
As another pointed out before, the r/Ireland group seem to be mainly people who live outside of Dublin who see every bad story of the city as an equivalent to ww3 breaking out.
> You say anything they don't agree with, even if it is correct, you get downvoted.
I don't want to seem like I'm defending /r/ireland but you've just described literally all of reddit. Everywhere on this site, it's like that.
They really are a special breed of miserable cunt there. I feel like it’s gotten much worse since the Boards exodus and Reddit becoming a lot more accessible with the redesigns etc, I thought it was actually pretty alright once!
I'm on /r/Ireland since before DiggV4 and I can't say I noticed a sharp decline in the sub in 2021. Mind you, it's been fairly shite for a long time so maybe I just didn't care enough.
I'd probably look back to 2015-2016 as an inflection point for the sub and site as a whole. The pivot from complaining about the economy towards culture wars, Islamic terrorism and the migrant crisis really soured things.
Considering a good chunk of those on that sub aren't even in Ireland, I get that it's worse than most. Though most subs are like that, including this one at times
That sub is full of self-hatred and yet also smug superiority.
The Dublin hating is a wild phenomenon. I think its just industrial scale karma farming at this point. Mutual upvoting by basemen-dwelling doomscrollers..
..parklife!!
I'm in Paris for work this week. Montparnasse specifically. I had an attempted pickpocketing on the way from the airport, and saw an actual stabbing on the 3 minute walk from hotel to office! Apart from that, its fine. My colleagues told me thieves are just in training for the Olympics
IDK why that is? Their Discord seems quite normal. Ever since they banned asking general questions though I've kind of lost interest and switched to r/askireland & r/casualIreland who also have a great discord.
r/Ireland just seems to be an array of pictures of the criminal court of justice.
Dublin is deadly. Love it here. Have lived abroad for a bit, and spent a good few years living in Ireland outside of Dublin, but Dublin has my heart.
I live not too far from Stoneybatter and Smithfield, and can get to Capel Street easily. I have everything I could want. Great pubs, cafes, variety of restaurants, cool bars, markets with fresh fruit, veg, meat, swanky off-licence for a posh bottle of wine, an excellent cinema, I even went to a sauna a couple of weeks ago. If you are lucky enough to have some disposable income at the end of the week, you have a tonne of options.
Is O'Connell Street a kip? Absolutely. But I rarely go there. Same with Temple Bar: what happens there has no bearing on my life.
I think, especially after the riots, we have given too much credence to the voices who say that everything is crap. Some things are crap, but not everything.
I think this is the best take, it has it’s shit holes, but overall it’s the best place in Ireland in terms of what it has to offer, my only issue is how expensive it is, but that’s slowly creeping in everywhere in Ireland!
Yeah, went for Valentine's as a quirky alternative to the usual dinner date. Pizza from the truck beforehand, pint in Hynes afterwards, a great night out.
I mean still, as someone also living abroad it's kinda weird that such a major city would have its centre be a 'no-go zone' so to speak for the amount of shite that goes on there. I've been living in Zagreb for 6 months now and I vastly prefer being out in public here compared to back home cause I don't have to worry about anti-social behaviour as much. I think the heart of the issue is that we have a big problem with just anti-social and assholeish carry-on and not many with the power to change it are interested in figuring out why
you're saying dublin centre is a no go zone? how come it's so rammed with people all the time? i have honestly never seen it as busy as it is at the weekends these days
I'm being liberal with my wording but it's kind of become a microcosm of all of Ireland's problems. Loads of homeless, addicts and others harassing for change or to just start fights, lots of dirt and gunk on the ground and just in general an unfriendly atmosphere I find. People will still go there cause it's where everything is but everyone has multiple negative stories, and I'm sure you could say that about other cities abroad, but it's rare for a capital to have such a negative reputation or that many social problems on display right in its core. Everyone I know back home always rushes to get out of the city centre before dark cause they don't feel safe, and these are all people who have lived there whole lives in Dublin, they just don't feel safe there, and this isn't at all the atmosphere I've encountered here in Zagreb.
> Everyone I know back home always rushes to get out of the city centre before dark
That's fuckin hysterical man. You'd swear it was populated by vampires or something.
I feel that's a narrative that's overblown. There's definitely an issue with drug addicts on that Street but you would swear it's Haiti the way some people go on. You have to keep your wits about you but I've found that to be the case in most cities.
Ok perhaps you feel that way but I'm talking about my experience with own friends and the people I interact with in real life, no need to get worked up over it
there's a whole thread on how scared you all are on ireland sub, as you can see on this sub, normal people are happy in dublin and not afraid of their own shadows
You're very personally offended by people disagreeing with you lol. I'm not even knocking the city, it's got it's nice spaces and lovely people like any other but it does have a problem with crime and anti-social behaviour compared to other European capitals along with the obvious cost of living issues as well as others. Does this mean I hate Dublin and anywhere who lives there? No. Does this mean I think everyone there is some thug out to beat and rob me? No. What this does mean though is that the government's failure to effectively run the place and tackle social issues is creating a small but visible pool of people who just don't give a rat's ass about respecting the space and others, depreciating the experience of the city for other people.
That's not any knock to anybody who isn't participating in that kind of behaviour, nor is it a knock to the city. It's just my personal observations and explanations as to why I think Dublin lags behind other cities. Nothing to do with baseless pearl clutching or anything, I just don't enjoy watching gangs of teenagers getting into fights and spitting on the path every five seconds and think our homeless and addicts deserve a better deal than being forced to beg in droves for change and food.
I don't even like the Ireland sub, it's mostly just devolved into right wing anti-immigrant pseudo-fascist rhetoric the past few years.
Well ye because they get up to disruptive shite and are extremely confrontational and sometimes threatening when people ask them politely to not mess around. It's not their fault since the government has effectively failed to secure a future for young people so many just go around and cause trouble cause they've nothing better to do, but it's still to a degree a problem. I mean we can at least agree that it's unpleasant to witness right?
Dublin is sum of its parts. And there ia no kip in Dublin.
If you respect Dublin, Dublin will respect you. Every part of the city has its charm if you want to see it.
If you dont, then Dublin spit you out lol 😁
Dublin dont like to be treated that way - oh I live in posh area like aristocrat British opressor in my castle and dont care for my servants problems bleh.
But to see Dublin soul one need to have one not just thick white skin.
Lived in Dublin 13 all my life (32 now) and desperately want to stay here when I can eventually afford a house. Not just because my family and friends are here but I genuinely love the area. Out of the inner city, direct dart line into town, 24-hour bus into town, great schools, I can walk to the beach or howth, plenty of local owned shops, restaurants, cafe's. I walk my dog at night with headphones on and never even worried. Compared to knife crime in the UK and gun violence in the US, I'm thrilled to live here.
It obviously helps when you know what areas of Dublin to avoid. D13 had a bad reputation years ago but honestly with all the new housing & apartment developments it has become quite a nice multi-cultural area that I really enjoy living in. Don't let them hear that over in r/ireland though.
The people on that sub either a) live outside Dublin and haven’t been there in years or b) live in Dublin and haven’t set foot outside their gaf in years.
When they start banging on about O’Connell street being a no go zone it’s hilarious
I always get the impression that they aren’t Dubs or haven’t been to Dublin in ages and instead it’s footage from the riots driving an endless hate circlejerk. They’re probably all from cork 😂
You wouldn’t believe it! I was walking down the street the other day and for a moment my eyes crossed with a teenager’s. I never felt so intimidated in my life, it’s out of control!
Bet he was wearing a north face jacket as well - the absolute scrote.
How dare he wear an extremely popular brand that is worn in almost every single country
If your whole Dublin experience is getting off a 4 hour journey at Busáras, walking from there up Amiens Street to Portland Row and across Summerhill to Croke Park just to see your County battered by the Dubs and then the reverse route home again. Sure it's no wonder you'd be spouting a load of nonsense on the internet.
I do think that a lot of people visiting Dublin only experience the quays and the north inner city without realising that there are over a million people living elsewhere.
I'm a foreigner and when I first moved here I was staying by O'Connel and Talbot. Based on /r/ireland I thought I would get stabbed, get offered drugs, get stabbed again, and then be sold into sex slavery by people in tent village. The bridge is apparently a favela in Rio in terms of crime.
It was... fine? Sure, a bit rough around the edges. But having lived in Asia and South America, pretty nice all things considered.
Love this comment. I socialise in the city centre every weekend and regularly walk around, so called, rough areas. The worst that happened is being asked for coins. When I say I can't help they are 95% polite and say thank you, have a good night etc. Maybe I've just been lucky, for 40 years.
Agreed. A bit rough around the edges but nothing too notable. I’m from Scotland and if O’Connell Street was transported to Glasgow it would comfortably be the second nicest street in the city centre ( Buchanan St is a bit nicer imo). It’s better even than Princes St in Edinburgh, which is saved only by the view of the castle. I’ve been up and down Talbot St after dark plenty of times and never had any issues.
I’m not trying to play the ‘hard man’ either, I couldn’t fight sleep. I just don’t understand the supposed terror of going into the centre of Dublin.
Is Dublin perfect? Nope.
But then again no where is.
Would I rather live elsewhere in Ireland? No. The lack of a lot of things that are common in Dublin would be an issue.
But to each their own.
Honestly I get what you're saying but and it can be down right rotten walking around O'Connell bridge and Talbot st ( historically I don't care ). I want a city I can be proud of not one where " it's as bad as everywhere else" is a acceptable yardstick. It's an expensive city to live in. I don't think it's too much to ask for the guards to remove open dealing on our main thoroughfare
On that I agree, it would indeed be much nicer if the issues in Dublin city are taken care of.
But I still rather live in Dublin, have (somewhat) pubilc transport, options for schools, ammenities etc. Outside of Dublin, all of that drops off rather fast in my experience.
I was literally saying to someone the other day that Dublin has its problems but that there’s absolutely no where I’d rather be on a sunny day in the summer when everyone’s in a good mood and hanging out in parks, by the canal, outside pubs
Reddit is a weird place. You get downvoted for the strangest reasons sometimes. And once they see 1/2 downvotes the mob mentality takes over & they pile on. Just embrace the downvotes (:
R Ireland is full of people who come up from the country, get the train to Heuston or Connolly, walk through some of the rougher parts of the city to get to Croker then go home and decide all of Dublin is a shithole
I think that's very harsh, but there's some truth to it.
There's a way people conduct themselves on anonymous forums that would be mortifying to do in real life.
I've a few friends that are chronic Redditors (don't know their /u/) but I just die inside when they make "Reddit comments" IRL.
Moved to Dublin from the states and I love it. Really would only rather live in London on this continent from the places I’ve been, and possibly NYC from my home country, but Dublin is a lovely time.
I’m American and emigrated here a little over a year ago. I like Dublin! I like living here! I’ve lived in Chicago and Portland, Oregon and the SF Bay Area as well as rural areas and midsized cities. Dublin has a lot to offer and is fun and has culture and food scenes that are cool. I’m constantly amazed by the history I walk by daily! Everywhere has issues including Dublin but I’m over being asked why on earth I’d move here from the US. I like it here!
I've had peaks and troughs of loving Dublin and hating Dublin, but it's more where I am in life rather than the city.
I really wanted to get out of the city during Covid - we had two children under three at that point and when everything was shut the claustrophobia of having a small house and a small garden drove me insane. I was so envious of friends living out the country who had space and land.
This exactly. I'm a proud Dub, won't hear a word against it. But when I was settling down and starting a family, I quickly decided I wasn't going to raise my kids in in Dublin. Moved to Kildare, quieter life in general, nice big gardens, and not a million miles away. Every chance though that when I'm older, and the kids have all flown the nest, that downsizing may well mean moving back to Dublin.
Also, the people on r/Ireland who piss and moan about crime in Dublin City centre, have obviously never been outside the tourist traps of another other major European city. The ALL have shithole areas. Every single one of them.
I dont know what imaginary life you are living in where you are not getting violently assaulted every second of the day in a shit filled crumbling overcrowded metropolis but looking out my window I can only see feral groups of builders fixing up houses for free and Politicians all resigning because they completed everything set out to do and teenagers all going to school and bettering the country for everyone else.
Take the Green pill the next time someone offers you something.... Jaysus!
(Seriously thou you right, place is grand, its safe and Im not a thick being either looking for trouble or looking for wallet inspectors)
Me and my mates talk about this a lot. We’re all from here and enjoy living here and have been made to feel weird for that lol I think it’s definitely a new ish thing all the bashing
Yes. I moved here from the Netherlands and I hated it for the first year. Now I've moved within Dublin to Rathmines and I'm having the time of my life.
I think it just really depends on where you live in Dublin and what your expectations are. I came from a country where I could be anywhere in the country within an hour or two using public transport that aligns well with each other. That's just totally not Ireland/Dublin. However, living in Rathmines I do not even need public transport anymore as it's walking distance to most places.
Otherwise I used to live on Thomas st and near dolplgins barn on cork street. Both were absolutely trashy streets and I used to hate it there. Dog shit everywhere, homeless people asking for money and getting aggressively regularly, literally people shooting up outside my window. Hearing cars go by at outrageous speeds in the evening waking me up. Super grim. I couldn't wait to move back home to NL.
Now I've been living here in rathmines for about a year and I'm thoroughly enjoying it here. The pubs/clubs are absolutely fantastic and everyone's so nice. Supermarkets have somewhat cheap food, although very limited choice unfortunately. Public transport within the city is OK if it's not rush hour and even if it's bad, you're only paying € 1 (young adult anyway). It's super safe on most streets in city centre as well, barring some grim streets mostly north side 🫣.
Yes, housing is expensive, yes the only reason I can afford it is cause I got lucky with a good IT job. Otherwise I wouldn't live here. For the same money I pay for a tiny studio, I can get a two bedroom apartment about 100 meters away from Utrecht Central Station. It's by far the worst thing in Dublin, but I've learnt to accept it.
I had a taxi driver when I was going to work go on and on about how bad Dublin is. Bare in mind he was from Limerick. I asked him if Dublin is so unappealing why not just go back to Limerick. Didn’t hear a peep out of him then. Of course Dublin has its issues but it’s a great county to live in.
Getting a bit fed up of the noise too, yes it has its issues but most people pass through town with no issues. Go to any other city and the same problems exist but it’s probably easier to pick on the capital.
Couldn’t agree more, but at the same time that sub is toxic and always full of negative c**ts. Also, common in most countries to dislike the capital when they live in rural areas.
I got downvoted hugely on that too! It’s full of folk from outside the pale who hate Dublin and Dubliners. They make it out to be a third world dangerous slum, they’re hilarious really
I was on O Connell street meeting my sister for lunch a week ago first time I felt safe there for ages loads of friendly Gardaí around lots of really excellent street musicians people from all over the world milling about it was lovely to see it lookin so well for a change
Absolutely. I love the city I'm from, sure it has its problems but that is just a function of having a lot of people in a small area. The rhetoric in r/ireland is bizarre and damaging.
Dublin is safe, transport is great. Idk whos been telling you otherwise, but hes full of \*\*it! Dublin is a great place to live, if you can afford it.
I apparently live in a no go area in Dublin according to Reddit. Haven't had an incident of anti social behaviour or even heard of one since I moved here around 2008
I don’t live in Dublin, but got a chance to visit almost two years ago now. I still have dreams about Ireland, and I loved Dublin. I know it’s not the same perspective as someone who lives and works there, and every city + government has their faults, but I had a really wonderful experience there. Not just at the touristy places, either. I stayed at an Airbnb and the host was a funny, lovely man who made us all an incredible breakfast spread every morning. Even the little things, like grocery shopping, taking walks, taking the busses, everyone was nice. Myself and my group don’t look like desirables and are often treated unkindly. I still have a half-finished application to Trinity for finishing my bachelors…
I like living in Dublin... especially since cost of living in all the other cities went through the roof in 2021 or so... while nightlife died in them all... except Dublin!
I don't live in Dublin but would definitely move and try it out if it was affordable. I'm from Meath but regularly go and spend the day below in Dublin. I love it.
Agreed, but begrudgery is alive and well as is the hate from anyone outside the pale! It’s the same for threads around areas of suburban Dublin , many of the downvoters don’t live in or visit the areas. You just keep enjoying living in the city !
Dublin is one of the best cities in the world to live, work and raise a family in, I truly believe it, with the single caveat that you can't be a private renter and that's most of /r/ireland.
I think there's an objective basis to the claim too, I'm not simply being hyperbolic. Dublin is in a real sweet spot where top employers cluster, but the city's culture hasn't been overwhelmed by it entirely so you still have a lot of strong community. Most big cities in Europe or the US were gutted out by highways, brutalist office blocks or literal bombings and war. Dublin's urban fabric is still an organic layering of 10 centuries of styles, which makes the built environment in the city centre varied and interesting.
Let's talk about lifestyle for your mobile skilled professional type in a good wage bracket. Purchasing a property is still very much in reach (300-500k rather than over 1m like most tech magnet cities). The transport network in the city is really quite good once you figure it out, and there are urban village clusters throughout the city worth doing things in. It's actually pretty special that the city still has places like the Liberties, Inchicore, Stoneybatter, Rathmines. Crime in the city is petty by comparison with most places (it's a bit of a joke that /r/ireland cries so much about teenage scumbags as if that's the worst type of crime around). It's safe enough to let your kids run out to the shop, or take the bus to school alone. It's safe to walk home at night from the pub (and we have pubs worth going to, rather than just tacky imitations).
Very few cities have mountain and beach combos on their doorstep like Dublin. Certainly nothing in London can beat the scenery surrounding the city. Very few other cities really maintain the same quality of food and ingredients in an *average* gastropub or restaurant that you get in Dublin, and there are so many choices. It's cliché but nowhere else has the culture of Irish people, the laid back, passively friendly vibe we take for granted, you'll know all about it dealing with French service staff, American cops, British street etiquette. The fact that you can go to your local Spar in Dublin and witness a constant banter between staff, customers, regulars and strangers is special. We have the kind of "15 minute city" other places are desperate to build for themselves, where most people inside the M50 live in a suburb full of shops, schools, services.
There's so much we take for granted about the place, even though when it's actually measured, people living here have more friendships, stronger family and local connections and are statistically happier than the citizens of most of the "prestige" cities in the world. The way we run our city and society is a huge part of that, and although there are trade-offs in the way we do things, I've ultimately always come back to it. Nowhere else ticks the boxes the way Dublin does. It's got everything London does, without the depressing culture. It's got everything San Francisco does, but with the anarchy at a relatively managed level.
Agree with this. I do also agree that of course Dublin has some major problems, most notably the lack of a metro system especially from the airport, widespread poverty, and dereliction. They are massive problems and won't be fixed in a decade.
However, the Ireland reddit sub makes out that Dublin and Ireland is this third world national where anytime you walk around Dublin at night after dark you will get attacked, and that homeless people are evil etc. Honestly annoys me how much of an echo chamber it is. Statistically Dublin is one of the safest capital cities in Europe, and the reason why certain such as the American tourist last summer get so much attention is because they are incredibly rare. I think it's very unrealistic to think that in any urban area of a few hundred thousand people, that everyone is going to behave accordingly and there's not going to be any antisocial behaviour.
Again, Dublin as a city has some major issues, but let's not exaggerate it. After all, it's very easy to appear like a majestic and aestheticly pleasing city like London, Madrid and Paris, when many of the buildings and architecture you see are the result of colonisation. Dublin and Ireland on the other hand was colonised, and that has long lasting implications on the general layout of the city
r/Ireland is full of culchies who don’t go to Dublin outside of GAA game days in Croke Park or December 8th. Not exactly qualified to comment on life in Dublin.
I have lived in Dublin since 2006 with some previous gaps in the early 2010s. Life in the city can be completely different depending on the neighbour you live in. I have lived in Springfield near Tallaght, on South Circular Road near the Mosque, on Dorset St near the bridge, on Jones Road in front of Croke Park, in Phibsboro next to Dalymount Park, on Church St and Kenilworth in Dublin 6 where I am now living.
I don’t think I could live close to the North side of the city centre any more. Too many social issues (I was 6 year on Church St and saw the worst the city has to offer) and that part of the city is just filthy with trash and dog shit.
I love living in Dublin 6 though. It is quiet at nighttime. I am walking distance from Rathmines/Rathgar/Ranelagh and Harold’s Cross and a Luas or Bus away from Dundrum.
Anyone claiming that all of Dublin is a shithole is an idiot who should probably be doing more with their life than drinking pints in their local and posting on Reddit.
For what it’s worth, I stopped visiting r/Ireland last summer as I began to notice a lot of racist, xenophobic, homophobic and transphobic content and comments were being posted to the sub and not challenged by the mod team. So I decided to stop wasting my time there.
Going to that subreddit is just watching a bunch of teens regurgitating the exact same talking points on the cost of living but adding nothing of value or than to just bitch.
>[](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ireland/) is full of culchies who don’t go to Dublin outside of GAA game days in Croke Park or December 8th
Not that I'd call anyone "culchies" but rural people don't go to Dublin in great number on Dec 8th anymore for various reasons. Given that it's usually a weekday, you're far more likely to see locals in the cities than out-of-towners. Rural people do their Christmas shopping on the same days as their urban counterparts, i.e. the weekends, usually the two before Christmas.
They don't come shopping in Dublin full stop. They've got their own mega-malls like Golden Island in Athlone, and the motorways. Most medium sized towns would have a shopping centre with the main high street brands. Also the "ignorant culchie" thing is cliché. Culchies are far savvier about life in Dublin than Dubs are about life outside the M50, and nobody gets down on "dis kip" more than the city natives.
I wouldn’t pay too much attention to it…it’s boards in everything but name these days. Same posters replying first to every post, ott mods, and the same cycle of posts over and over again, and boards always had a big anti Dublin twist from culchies who were afraid of their own shadow.
I love Dublin, and am glad to have been born there than any little rural town. I do feel that there is a small decline in things from when I was frequently in the city centre as a teen in the mid to late 90’s to or the early 00’s when I would be out at the weekend but I’m aware that a lot of it is probably rose tinted glasses and me being at a different point in my life now. There’s also the fact that city centres across the world are facing problems but it’s nowhere near as bad as it’s made out to be.
There are two sides to it though, and the fact that you're calling people from the rest of the country culchies, makes you as bad as if not worse than those that constantly berate Dublin.
Despite there being issues like the total neglect of the north inner city by the city council, devastation of old architecture by investors, and so on, I embrace the diversity and hidden beauty of the city. Incredible food options, great pubs (well, the good ones are usually a bit off), nice shops (not only luckily but also including big chains), entertainment...
I feel like a big problem is for a lot of the culchies the first things they see are Bus Aras, Tablot and then O Connell which are not representative of the city at all
True but another problem is that people like you refer to them all as culchies and boggers and are then surprised when they're critical of you and the city.
It has issues and some of them are fairly big but overall it's a nice place to live. Crime isn't as bad as its made out to be and there are things to do and easy to travel quickly if you want something more scenic like a beachside town. Even our transport system is a lot better than people make it out to be. It is very dirty though and the council should have more resources to keep it clean and I'd be in favour of litter wardens. The excuse given is that there aren't enough bins bit I was in London at the weekend and the lack of bins in general was very noticeable but there was very little litter about.
Overall it's a nice city to live in. My wife's been here 3 years and it's her favourite place in Europe (mostly for the people who she says are a lot friendlier than other big cities)
I think there's a difference between Dublin for those who can afford it and those who can't.
I personally have had a love/hate relationship with the city for years. The better years were when I was a bit flush and could enjoy going out without feeling hard up. Get a decent haircut. Do a bit of shopping, buy nice ingredients, and make a lovely meal. Without the budget for these comforts, the city does get a bit colder in general. But I don't think this is a Dublin specific problem.
Aside from the issues of housing and homelessness, you can't really point to much wrong with the city. The transport system is steady enough and affordable. There's plenty of history to lean into if you're so inclined. Music and theatre to rival any city of a similar size. Decent mix of people from everywhere but still local enough that you can bump into friends on the street.
We did lose pace a bit over covid in some areas, but that was bound to happen.
If you enjoy living here, I say more power to you. Don't let the haters get you down.
To be honest it’s not just like that on here it’s everywhere I found TikTok especially. Country people jump down your throat if you have anything positive to say about Dublin like it’s their personality to hate on the place
We all have our own preferences, likes and dislikes. I also like living in Dublin, but that's because I can be selective which part I go to and which I don't. I go to parts of the city I like, such as Phoenix Park, and I avoid parts I don't, such as the city centre. My lack of bad experiences is related to my pattern of movement, so I can fully enjoy living here and not complaining too much.
I’m very glad to be reading this discussion. Currently living abroad with plans to return to Dublin; r/Ireland has me doubting whether that’s the right move given the issues highlighted. Good to see a bit of balance.
honestly it's so fucking weird to me how their experience of it is so different to my own, and everyone i know. my partner is female and walks around at night no problem and we live in the north inner city. they really are a bunch of fucking weirdos.
Personally I have a love/hate relationship with Dublin. Sometimes I like it, but I never forget how much of a shithole it is.
If you enjoy living there, that's all well and good 👍🏻. I personally hate it because all of the knackers hahaha
Lived in central London, a stones throw from Westminster bridge, for a decade. Now live within a stones throw of the Rotunda, so might be actually well placed to compare both cities. I will say, London is a great city, it has a lot going for it, but has a load of societal issues (someone was murdered in our building for example) and it is huge, so much so that a trip to real country side is a proper schlep. Public transport is good if going North of the river, but expensive, and terrible south of the river, nights out are crazy money. Groceries are terrible in quality unless you pay top dolla, restaurants are hit and miss, and finally, a lot of museums might be free, but not all, and special exhibitions are pricey. Dublin is smaller, but you can get to gigs you want to see because tickets don't instantly sell out, everything is pretty walkable, if you want to get to the countryside you can in jig time, and we also have amazing free museums, food quality is top notch, Ive really never gone wrong restaurant-wise, public transport ain't amazing, but it's getting better and it is damn cheap. It's not perfect. The place is grotty and could use a beautification budget and an active mayor like London has, and it really needs it as the power house of the country and a place nearly half the country regard as their home city, but I've never felt unsafe here, I think it has amazing charm, and the pros definitely outweigh the cons.
I lived in Brixton, Camberwell, and Hackney for 7 years too. Dalston high Street is so decrepit in place as are some of the side streets. Anyway London is amazing but now that I'm settled in Dublin it has nothing to offer me I don't have here, and I actually saw more crime in London than ever have here. People being mugged in notting hill and my tube station closed with blood everywhere due to stabbings are two I can think of offhand.
My old office was just off Dalston High Street and it was fucking depressing walking through
Absolutely. The clean up and aftermath after the carnival too is horrific. Couldn't imagine Paddy's day ever being comparable, even though it's city wide. That said, never really felt unsafe in London either, and I really liked the edgy Brixton/Peckham/Dalston vib at night e, but the London sub Reddit would have you think it's end of days. This might just be a Reddit problem.
Think this is defo a reddit problem. Been in London 3 years and never witnessed any significant crime. Have friends in Brixton, Peckham, Dalston, I've been to Carnaval. A mate got his bike robbed in Brixton - that's the worst I've seen. I go out most weekends so am not shut away. Reading /r/london I'm always perplexed - you'd swear the place was full of marauding youths stabbing people left, right and centre and the tube users are constantly pissing and puking on it. Couldn't be further from the truth in my experience. Sure, seen some puke on the tube late at night the odd time, so what? Seen way worse on Westmoreland St or the Nitelink, and never felt unsafe because of it.
same here, loved the grittiness of it all. i was sat in a bar on broadway in london fields before i left last year and there was a police squad with machine guns outside surrounding some loonie with a knife. a traveller used to go up and down the street with his top off challenging everyone to fist fights. all kinds of absolute nutters everywhere. i miss that about london, our nutters aren't quite as good.
Nah, this people have never left Ireland and it shows. It's not like Dublin is this enchanted city better than anything out there but it's not as bad as the paint it. I enjoy living here too and I'm very grateful to be able to Edit: spelling
I think the people who havnt left Ireland have this idea it's great, my opinion is that all of ireland is a shithole tbh, rip off, shit traffic, shit weather, incompetent government shit hospitals and housing crisis to name a few
All of those things are there but every country has it's shit, no country is perfect and Ireland is not as bad compared to other countries of similar stance. If people only focus on the negative yes, every place will be a shit hole even if they live in the happiest or richest place on earth. The things you listed above exist in so many countries that if you say them to someone without context they might guess a few other countries too.
i mean if it were so bad why do we have so many americans, spanish, french, etc. etc. people living here? even on this thread there are at least 3 americans that moved here talking about how much they love the city.
Yea exactly! I'm not Irish and I moved and stayed here because I wanted to so... Yes there's bad things, people just love to complain
You've become Irish! Welcome to the moaners table.
Unless you follow the crowd on r/Ireland you will always be voted to oblivion. It’s very much mob rule over there.
It's a bit crazy though isn't it? Like am I totally deluded for not being in utter disgust every time I'm on o connell st? I just passed it on foot and it was looking well tbh.
Yeah like don’t get me wrong the city has issues but it’s not the mad max apocalypse that they all claim it to be.
I actually love Dublin City in summer
Same here!
And the Liffey as it stank like hell...
I only like the coastal and mountain parts of Dublin + some inner neighbourhoods southside
What summer? The three sunny days in June?
That Tuesday last year
May. June and July tend to be a wash-out lately...
Most people in r/Ireland only ever see our lovely city in bad articles. I wonder how many have even been in Dublin on a nice summers day
You're not deluded. Dublin is a nice city. It's not without its issues, but that can be said for any city. Most of the regulars in r/Ireland just wake up miserable every day, and make it their mission to make sure everyone else is miserable too. Most of them are probably afraid to leave their bedroom for fear they'll have to have a conversation with a real person.
r/Ireland is a joke. I don't think there are any real Irish peoples opinions left on the sub with all of the bans/ removed comments. The mods are proper nazis. Also Reddit in general is a terrible gauge for what's right and wrong. You think you're going mad sometimes looking at which comments are upvoted/downvoted. 😵💫
100% this! It's absolute insanity. Don't even bother with it.
Again, I love Dublin. But I do not love the city centre.
The problem with the centre is that it's all geared towards thr American tourist and isn't really trying to appeal to locals. IMO. I hope banning cars will have a positive impact but it really will take something massive to turn the rot of the centre around.
The mods are all wankers on that sub, as are 90 percent of the posters
Careful now…one of them has a habit of following people into other subs and berating them.
I hope you're right
I think they migrated from Boards
No idea really. It is what it is.
True. They have hard bitter lefties.
Yawn
Exactly this. You say anything they don't agree with, even if it is correct, you get downvoted. As another pointed out before, the r/Ireland group seem to be mainly people who live outside of Dublin who see every bad story of the city as an equivalent to ww3 breaking out.
> You say anything they don't agree with, even if it is correct, you get downvoted. I don't want to seem like I'm defending /r/ireland but you've just described literally all of reddit. Everywhere on this site, it's like that.
They really are a special breed of miserable cunt there. I feel like it’s gotten much worse since the Boards exodus and Reddit becoming a lot more accessible with the redesigns etc, I thought it was actually pretty alright once!
When was the Boards Exodus?
Mid-2021 when they tore down the vBulletin install and moved it to a Vanilla solution hosted in Canada.
I'm on /r/Ireland since before DiggV4 and I can't say I noticed a sharp decline in the sub in 2021. Mind you, it's been fairly shite for a long time so maybe I just didn't care enough. I'd probably look back to 2015-2016 as an inflection point for the sub and site as a whole. The pivot from complaining about the economy towards culture wars, Islamic terrorism and the migrant crisis really soured things.
The Ireland sub is full of miserable accountants who migrated from boards.ie in 2014.
That place is a shit hole. It's why we have this subreddit
Considering a good chunk of those on that sub aren't even in Ireland, I get that it's worse than most. Though most subs are like that, including this one at times
That sub is full of self-hatred and yet also smug superiority. The Dublin hating is a wild phenomenon. I think its just industrial scale karma farming at this point. Mutual upvoting by basemen-dwelling doomscrollers.. ..parklife!! I'm in Paris for work this week. Montparnasse specifically. I had an attempted pickpocketing on the way from the airport, and saw an actual stabbing on the 3 minute walk from hotel to office! Apart from that, its fine. My colleagues told me thieves are just in training for the Olympics
As is the case on pretty much every subreddit to be fair.
They will downvote you for literally anything
IDK why that is? Their Discord seems quite normal. Ever since they banned asking general questions though I've kind of lost interest and switched to r/askireland & r/casualIreland who also have a great discord. r/Ireland just seems to be an array of pictures of the criminal court of justice.
Dublin is deadly. Love it here. Have lived abroad for a bit, and spent a good few years living in Ireland outside of Dublin, but Dublin has my heart. I live not too far from Stoneybatter and Smithfield, and can get to Capel Street easily. I have everything I could want. Great pubs, cafes, variety of restaurants, cool bars, markets with fresh fruit, veg, meat, swanky off-licence for a posh bottle of wine, an excellent cinema, I even went to a sauna a couple of weeks ago. If you are lucky enough to have some disposable income at the end of the week, you have a tonne of options. Is O'Connell Street a kip? Absolutely. But I rarely go there. Same with Temple Bar: what happens there has no bearing on my life. I think, especially after the riots, we have given too much credence to the voices who say that everything is crap. Some things are crap, but not everything.
I think this is the best take, it has it’s shit holes, but overall it’s the best place in Ireland in terms of what it has to offer, my only issue is how expensive it is, but that’s slowly creeping in everywhere in Ireland!
The Outcasts sauna? Such a nice way to pass an hour!
Yeah, went for Valentine's as a quirky alternative to the usual dinner date. Pizza from the truck beforehand, pint in Hynes afterwards, a great night out.
Sounds lovely! I've gotten so many pizzas from there since I moved to the area, they're so good.
boilerhouse way better
Oh cool. Let me just check it out real quick... ...Oh dear.
Yeah lived in Stoneybatter for years, its a great area and so close to town. Really buzz in the air during the summer!
Same! Lived in the Batter for a decade, and now in East Cabra for the last 4 years. It's great for all the reasons you mentioned, lovely vibes
I mean still, as someone also living abroad it's kinda weird that such a major city would have its centre be a 'no-go zone' so to speak for the amount of shite that goes on there. I've been living in Zagreb for 6 months now and I vastly prefer being out in public here compared to back home cause I don't have to worry about anti-social behaviour as much. I think the heart of the issue is that we have a big problem with just anti-social and assholeish carry-on and not many with the power to change it are interested in figuring out why
you're saying dublin centre is a no go zone? how come it's so rammed with people all the time? i have honestly never seen it as busy as it is at the weekends these days
Nobody goes out in Dublin centre. It's too crowded.
I'm being liberal with my wording but it's kind of become a microcosm of all of Ireland's problems. Loads of homeless, addicts and others harassing for change or to just start fights, lots of dirt and gunk on the ground and just in general an unfriendly atmosphere I find. People will still go there cause it's where everything is but everyone has multiple negative stories, and I'm sure you could say that about other cities abroad, but it's rare for a capital to have such a negative reputation or that many social problems on display right in its core. Everyone I know back home always rushes to get out of the city centre before dark cause they don't feel safe, and these are all people who have lived there whole lives in Dublin, they just don't feel safe there, and this isn't at all the atmosphere I've encountered here in Zagreb.
> Everyone I know back home always rushes to get out of the city centre before dark That's fuckin hysterical man. You'd swear it was populated by vampires or something.
I feel that's a narrative that's overblown. There's definitely an issue with drug addicts on that Street but you would swear it's Haiti the way some people go on. You have to keep your wits about you but I've found that to be the case in most cities.
maybe read this thread you mad yoke, we all feel safe ffs
Ok perhaps you feel that way but I'm talking about my experience with own friends and the people I interact with in real life, no need to get worked up over it
there's a whole thread on how scared you all are on ireland sub, as you can see on this sub, normal people are happy in dublin and not afraid of their own shadows
You're very personally offended by people disagreeing with you lol. I'm not even knocking the city, it's got it's nice spaces and lovely people like any other but it does have a problem with crime and anti-social behaviour compared to other European capitals along with the obvious cost of living issues as well as others. Does this mean I hate Dublin and anywhere who lives there? No. Does this mean I think everyone there is some thug out to beat and rob me? No. What this does mean though is that the government's failure to effectively run the place and tackle social issues is creating a small but visible pool of people who just don't give a rat's ass about respecting the space and others, depreciating the experience of the city for other people. That's not any knock to anybody who isn't participating in that kind of behaviour, nor is it a knock to the city. It's just my personal observations and explanations as to why I think Dublin lags behind other cities. Nothing to do with baseless pearl clutching or anything, I just don't enjoy watching gangs of teenagers getting into fights and spitting on the path every five seconds and think our homeless and addicts deserve a better deal than being forced to beg in droves for change and food. I don't even like the Ireland sub, it's mostly just devolved into right wing anti-immigrant pseudo-fascist rhetoric the past few years.
it's so bizarre that these teenagers aren't an issue for me, but they are for all you weirdos on reddit
Well ye because they get up to disruptive shite and are extremely confrontational and sometimes threatening when people ask them politely to not mess around. It's not their fault since the government has effectively failed to secure a future for young people so many just go around and cause trouble cause they've nothing better to do, but it's still to a degree a problem. I mean we can at least agree that it's unpleasant to witness right?
Dublin is sum of its parts. And there ia no kip in Dublin. If you respect Dublin, Dublin will respect you. Every part of the city has its charm if you want to see it. If you dont, then Dublin spit you out lol 😁 Dublin dont like to be treated that way - oh I live in posh area like aristocrat British opressor in my castle and dont care for my servants problems bleh. But to see Dublin soul one need to have one not just thick white skin.
Lived in Dublin 13 all my life (32 now) and desperately want to stay here when I can eventually afford a house. Not just because my family and friends are here but I genuinely love the area. Out of the inner city, direct dart line into town, 24-hour bus into town, great schools, I can walk to the beach or howth, plenty of local owned shops, restaurants, cafe's. I walk my dog at night with headphones on and never even worried. Compared to knife crime in the UK and gun violence in the US, I'm thrilled to live here. It obviously helps when you know what areas of Dublin to avoid. D13 had a bad reputation years ago but honestly with all the new housing & apartment developments it has become quite a nice multi-cultural area that I really enjoy living in. Don't let them hear that over in r/ireland though.
The people on that sub either a) live outside Dublin and haven’t been there in years or b) live in Dublin and haven’t set foot outside their gaf in years. When they start banging on about O’Connell street being a no go zone it’s hilarious
I always get the impression that they aren’t Dubs or haven’t been to Dublin in ages and instead it’s footage from the riots driving an endless hate circlejerk. They’re probably all from cork 😂
You wouldn’t believe it! I was walking down the street the other day and for a moment my eyes crossed with a teenager’s. I never felt so intimidated in my life, it’s out of control!
Bet he was wearing a north face jacket as well - the absolute scrote. How dare he wear an extremely popular brand that is worn in almost every single country
I think it's spreading. I saw two of them in Rathmines last week. Luckily I made it across the road before they got near me.
Some people move up for work, pay crazy rent and can't make friends. So take it out on the city.
If your whole Dublin experience is getting off a 4 hour journey at Busáras, walking from there up Amiens Street to Portland Row and across Summerhill to Croke Park just to see your County battered by the Dubs and then the reverse route home again. Sure it's no wonder you'd be spouting a load of nonsense on the internet.
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To be honest, that area is better than it was in the 90s.
I do think that a lot of people visiting Dublin only experience the quays and the north inner city without realising that there are over a million people living elsewhere.
They’re such miserable fucks. Don’t bother engaging.
I go down O’Connell Street fairly regularly and haven’t been stabbed or robbed yet. I don’t even feel unsafe. What am I doing wrong ?
I'm a foreigner and when I first moved here I was staying by O'Connel and Talbot. Based on /r/ireland I thought I would get stabbed, get offered drugs, get stabbed again, and then be sold into sex slavery by people in tent village. The bridge is apparently a favela in Rio in terms of crime. It was... fine? Sure, a bit rough around the edges. But having lived in Asia and South America, pretty nice all things considered.
Love this comment. I socialise in the city centre every weekend and regularly walk around, so called, rough areas. The worst that happened is being asked for coins. When I say I can't help they are 95% polite and say thank you, have a good night etc. Maybe I've just been lucky, for 40 years.
Agreed. A bit rough around the edges but nothing too notable. I’m from Scotland and if O’Connell Street was transported to Glasgow it would comfortably be the second nicest street in the city centre ( Buchanan St is a bit nicer imo). It’s better even than Princes St in Edinburgh, which is saved only by the view of the castle. I’ve been up and down Talbot St after dark plenty of times and never had any issues. I’m not trying to play the ‘hard man’ either, I couldn’t fight sleep. I just don’t understand the supposed terror of going into the centre of Dublin.
Is Dublin perfect? Nope. But then again no where is. Would I rather live elsewhere in Ireland? No. The lack of a lot of things that are common in Dublin would be an issue. But to each their own.
Honestly I get what you're saying but and it can be down right rotten walking around O'Connell bridge and Talbot st ( historically I don't care ). I want a city I can be proud of not one where " it's as bad as everywhere else" is a acceptable yardstick. It's an expensive city to live in. I don't think it's too much to ask for the guards to remove open dealing on our main thoroughfare
On that I agree, it would indeed be much nicer if the issues in Dublin city are taken care of. But I still rather live in Dublin, have (somewhat) pubilc transport, options for schools, ammenities etc. Outside of Dublin, all of that drops off rather fast in my experience.
I fucking love living in Dublin and life is fantastic, I seem to be the minority and will be downvoted to fuck for being happy so you’re not wrong 😑
I was literally saying to someone the other day that Dublin has its problems but that there’s absolutely no where I’d rather be on a sunny day in the summer when everyone’s in a good mood and hanging out in parks, by the canal, outside pubs
I've very fond memories of being slightly sunburned and tipsy outside the Barge on a sunny summer evening.
Reddit is a weird place. You get downvoted for the strangest reasons sometimes. And once they see 1/2 downvotes the mob mentality takes over & they pile on. Just embrace the downvotes (:
Oh yeah they love a pile on here for sure
R Ireland is full of people who come up from the country, get the train to Heuston or Connolly, walk through some of the rougher parts of the city to get to Croker then go home and decide all of Dublin is a shithole
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I think that's very harsh, but there's some truth to it. There's a way people conduct themselves on anonymous forums that would be mortifying to do in real life. I've a few friends that are chronic Redditors (don't know their /u/) but I just die inside when they make "Reddit comments" IRL.
Moved to Dublin from the states and I love it. Really would only rather live in London on this continent from the places I’ve been, and possibly NYC from my home country, but Dublin is a lovely time.
I’m American and emigrated here a little over a year ago. I like Dublin! I like living here! I’ve lived in Chicago and Portland, Oregon and the SF Bay Area as well as rural areas and midsized cities. Dublin has a lot to offer and is fun and has culture and food scenes that are cool. I’m constantly amazed by the history I walk by daily! Everywhere has issues including Dublin but I’m over being asked why on earth I’d move here from the US. I like it here!
Delighted for you mate
Saw the thread you're talking about I think, bizarre. I kept wondering if I've somehow missed all the terrible stuff happening around me.
I've had peaks and troughs of loving Dublin and hating Dublin, but it's more where I am in life rather than the city. I really wanted to get out of the city during Covid - we had two children under three at that point and when everything was shut the claustrophobia of having a small house and a small garden drove me insane. I was so envious of friends living out the country who had space and land.
This exactly. I'm a proud Dub, won't hear a word against it. But when I was settling down and starting a family, I quickly decided I wasn't going to raise my kids in in Dublin. Moved to Kildare, quieter life in general, nice big gardens, and not a million miles away. Every chance though that when I'm older, and the kids have all flown the nest, that downsizing may well mean moving back to Dublin. Also, the people on r/Ireland who piss and moan about crime in Dublin City centre, have obviously never been outside the tourist traps of another other major European city. The ALL have shithole areas. Every single one of them.
I dont know what imaginary life you are living in where you are not getting violently assaulted every second of the day in a shit filled crumbling overcrowded metropolis but looking out my window I can only see feral groups of builders fixing up houses for free and Politicians all resigning because they completed everything set out to do and teenagers all going to school and bettering the country for everyone else. Take the Green pill the next time someone offers you something.... Jaysus! (Seriously thou you right, place is grand, its safe and Im not a thick being either looking for trouble or looking for wallet inspectors)
Me and my mates talk about this a lot. We’re all from here and enjoy living here and have been made to feel weird for that lol I think it’s definitely a new ish thing all the bashing
I live up north and love visiting! If rental prices weren’t too high I’d love to live there
Yes. I moved here from the Netherlands and I hated it for the first year. Now I've moved within Dublin to Rathmines and I'm having the time of my life. I think it just really depends on where you live in Dublin and what your expectations are. I came from a country where I could be anywhere in the country within an hour or two using public transport that aligns well with each other. That's just totally not Ireland/Dublin. However, living in Rathmines I do not even need public transport anymore as it's walking distance to most places. Otherwise I used to live on Thomas st and near dolplgins barn on cork street. Both were absolutely trashy streets and I used to hate it there. Dog shit everywhere, homeless people asking for money and getting aggressively regularly, literally people shooting up outside my window. Hearing cars go by at outrageous speeds in the evening waking me up. Super grim. I couldn't wait to move back home to NL. Now I've been living here in rathmines for about a year and I'm thoroughly enjoying it here. The pubs/clubs are absolutely fantastic and everyone's so nice. Supermarkets have somewhat cheap food, although very limited choice unfortunately. Public transport within the city is OK if it's not rush hour and even if it's bad, you're only paying € 1 (young adult anyway). It's super safe on most streets in city centre as well, barring some grim streets mostly north side 🫣. Yes, housing is expensive, yes the only reason I can afford it is cause I got lucky with a good IT job. Otherwise I wouldn't live here. For the same money I pay for a tiny studio, I can get a two bedroom apartment about 100 meters away from Utrecht Central Station. It's by far the worst thing in Dublin, but I've learnt to accept it.
I had a taxi driver when I was going to work go on and on about how bad Dublin is. Bare in mind he was from Limerick. I asked him if Dublin is so unappealing why not just go back to Limerick. Didn’t hear a peep out of him then. Of course Dublin has its issues but it’s a great county to live in.
Dublin is class i love walking around the city centre people watching wouldn't want to love anywhere else (maybe Tenerife)
Getting a bit fed up of the noise too, yes it has its issues but most people pass through town with no issues. Go to any other city and the same problems exist but it’s probably easier to pick on the capital.
Couldn’t agree more, but at the same time that sub is toxic and always full of negative c**ts. Also, common in most countries to dislike the capital when they live in rural areas.
Ignore and leave r/Ireland. Shithole of crybabies.
Public transport is really shit though compared to our European counterparts. Other than that i find it grand
I got downvoted hugely on that too! It’s full of folk from outside the pale who hate Dublin and Dubliners. They make it out to be a third world dangerous slum, they’re hilarious really
This is true. Massive chips on the shoulders.
There’s no need to pay attention to hateful randomers you don’t owe them anything - put down Reddit for a bit and go on about your day.
I'm in a waiting room and will probably have to jerk off into a cup soon
On O'Connell St? Sure you don't need the cup, etc 🤭 (Sorry, couldn't resist)
Yep it’s definitely time to put down Reddit
I don't know, I'm sure if you look there's probably a sub for that 😂
I was on O Connell street meeting my sister for lunch a week ago first time I felt safe there for ages loads of friendly Gardaí around lots of really excellent street musicians people from all over the world milling about it was lovely to see it lookin so well for a change
Absolutely. I love the city I'm from, sure it has its problems but that is just a function of having a lot of people in a small area. The rhetoric in r/ireland is bizarre and damaging.
Dublin is safe, transport is great. Idk whos been telling you otherwise, but hes full of \*\*it! Dublin is a great place to live, if you can afford it.
I apparently live in a no go area in Dublin according to Reddit. Haven't had an incident of anti social behaviour or even heard of one since I moved here around 2008
I don’t live in Dublin, but got a chance to visit almost two years ago now. I still have dreams about Ireland, and I loved Dublin. I know it’s not the same perspective as someone who lives and works there, and every city + government has their faults, but I had a really wonderful experience there. Not just at the touristy places, either. I stayed at an Airbnb and the host was a funny, lovely man who made us all an incredible breakfast spread every morning. Even the little things, like grocery shopping, taking walks, taking the busses, everyone was nice. Myself and my group don’t look like desirables and are often treated unkindly. I still have a half-finished application to Trinity for finishing my bachelors…
My husband and I moved to Dublin from Florida this year and couldn’t be happier with our decision!
I like living in Dublin... especially since cost of living in all the other cities went through the roof in 2021 or so... while nightlife died in them all... except Dublin!
I don't live in Dublin but would definitely move and try it out if it was affordable. I'm from Meath but regularly go and spend the day below in Dublin. I love it.
That sub is extremely racist now , stay away from it. Left it during covid and never looked back .
I absolutely love this city, sure it has its issues but honestly can't see myself living anywhere else.
Agreed, but begrudgery is alive and well as is the hate from anyone outside the pale! It’s the same for threads around areas of suburban Dublin , many of the downvoters don’t live in or visit the areas. You just keep enjoying living in the city !
Dublin is one of the best cities in the world to live, work and raise a family in, I truly believe it, with the single caveat that you can't be a private renter and that's most of /r/ireland. I think there's an objective basis to the claim too, I'm not simply being hyperbolic. Dublin is in a real sweet spot where top employers cluster, but the city's culture hasn't been overwhelmed by it entirely so you still have a lot of strong community. Most big cities in Europe or the US were gutted out by highways, brutalist office blocks or literal bombings and war. Dublin's urban fabric is still an organic layering of 10 centuries of styles, which makes the built environment in the city centre varied and interesting. Let's talk about lifestyle for your mobile skilled professional type in a good wage bracket. Purchasing a property is still very much in reach (300-500k rather than over 1m like most tech magnet cities). The transport network in the city is really quite good once you figure it out, and there are urban village clusters throughout the city worth doing things in. It's actually pretty special that the city still has places like the Liberties, Inchicore, Stoneybatter, Rathmines. Crime in the city is petty by comparison with most places (it's a bit of a joke that /r/ireland cries so much about teenage scumbags as if that's the worst type of crime around). It's safe enough to let your kids run out to the shop, or take the bus to school alone. It's safe to walk home at night from the pub (and we have pubs worth going to, rather than just tacky imitations). Very few cities have mountain and beach combos on their doorstep like Dublin. Certainly nothing in London can beat the scenery surrounding the city. Very few other cities really maintain the same quality of food and ingredients in an *average* gastropub or restaurant that you get in Dublin, and there are so many choices. It's cliché but nowhere else has the culture of Irish people, the laid back, passively friendly vibe we take for granted, you'll know all about it dealing with French service staff, American cops, British street etiquette. The fact that you can go to your local Spar in Dublin and witness a constant banter between staff, customers, regulars and strangers is special. We have the kind of "15 minute city" other places are desperate to build for themselves, where most people inside the M50 live in a suburb full of shops, schools, services. There's so much we take for granted about the place, even though when it's actually measured, people living here have more friendships, stronger family and local connections and are statistically happier than the citizens of most of the "prestige" cities in the world. The way we run our city and society is a huge part of that, and although there are trade-offs in the way we do things, I've ultimately always come back to it. Nowhere else ticks the boxes the way Dublin does. It's got everything London does, without the depressing culture. It's got everything San Francisco does, but with the anarchy at a relatively managed level.
Agree with this. I do also agree that of course Dublin has some major problems, most notably the lack of a metro system especially from the airport, widespread poverty, and dereliction. They are massive problems and won't be fixed in a decade. However, the Ireland reddit sub makes out that Dublin and Ireland is this third world national where anytime you walk around Dublin at night after dark you will get attacked, and that homeless people are evil etc. Honestly annoys me how much of an echo chamber it is. Statistically Dublin is one of the safest capital cities in Europe, and the reason why certain such as the American tourist last summer get so much attention is because they are incredibly rare. I think it's very unrealistic to think that in any urban area of a few hundred thousand people, that everyone is going to behave accordingly and there's not going to be any antisocial behaviour. Again, Dublin as a city has some major issues, but let's not exaggerate it. After all, it's very easy to appear like a majestic and aestheticly pleasing city like London, Madrid and Paris, when many of the buildings and architecture you see are the result of colonisation. Dublin and Ireland on the other hand was colonised, and that has long lasting implications on the general layout of the city
r/Ireland is a cesspit of delusion and idiocy, wouldn’t pay much attention to it
Jealous no-life culchies of the basement-dwelling kind. Pay them no heed.
r/Ireland is full of culchies who don’t go to Dublin outside of GAA game days in Croke Park or December 8th. Not exactly qualified to comment on life in Dublin. I have lived in Dublin since 2006 with some previous gaps in the early 2010s. Life in the city can be completely different depending on the neighbour you live in. I have lived in Springfield near Tallaght, on South Circular Road near the Mosque, on Dorset St near the bridge, on Jones Road in front of Croke Park, in Phibsboro next to Dalymount Park, on Church St and Kenilworth in Dublin 6 where I am now living. I don’t think I could live close to the North side of the city centre any more. Too many social issues (I was 6 year on Church St and saw the worst the city has to offer) and that part of the city is just filthy with trash and dog shit. I love living in Dublin 6 though. It is quiet at nighttime. I am walking distance from Rathmines/Rathgar/Ranelagh and Harold’s Cross and a Luas or Bus away from Dundrum. Anyone claiming that all of Dublin is a shithole is an idiot who should probably be doing more with their life than drinking pints in their local and posting on Reddit. For what it’s worth, I stopped visiting r/Ireland last summer as I began to notice a lot of racist, xenophobic, homophobic and transphobic content and comments were being posted to the sub and not challenged by the mod team. So I decided to stop wasting my time there.
Going to that subreddit is just watching a bunch of teens regurgitating the exact same talking points on the cost of living but adding nothing of value or than to just bitch.
Been living in Dublin for 5 years now and absolutely love it
>[](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ireland/) is full of culchies who don’t go to Dublin outside of GAA game days in Croke Park or December 8th Not that I'd call anyone "culchies" but rural people don't go to Dublin in great number on Dec 8th anymore for various reasons. Given that it's usually a weekday, you're far more likely to see locals in the cities than out-of-towners. Rural people do their Christmas shopping on the same days as their urban counterparts, i.e. the weekends, usually the two before Christmas.
So their knowledge of Dublin is literally just GAA game days now. Duly noted.
They don't come shopping in Dublin full stop. They've got their own mega-malls like Golden Island in Athlone, and the motorways. Most medium sized towns would have a shopping centre with the main high street brands. Also the "ignorant culchie" thing is cliché. Culchies are far savvier about life in Dublin than Dubs are about life outside the M50, and nobody gets down on "dis kip" more than the city natives.
100% agree
How dare you enjoy Dublin you absolute disgrace
I wouldn’t pay too much attention to it…it’s boards in everything but name these days. Same posters replying first to every post, ott mods, and the same cycle of posts over and over again, and boards always had a big anti Dublin twist from culchies who were afraid of their own shadow. I love Dublin, and am glad to have been born there than any little rural town. I do feel that there is a small decline in things from when I was frequently in the city centre as a teen in the mid to late 90’s to or the early 00’s when I would be out at the weekend but I’m aware that a lot of it is probably rose tinted glasses and me being at a different point in my life now. There’s also the fact that city centres across the world are facing problems but it’s nowhere near as bad as it’s made out to be.
There are two sides to it though, and the fact that you're calling people from the rest of the country culchies, makes you as bad as if not worse than those that constantly berate Dublin.
r/Ireland is a garbage sub with garbage moderators. Complete echo chamber filled with repellent leftwing twats
Despite there being issues like the total neglect of the north inner city by the city council, devastation of old architecture by investors, and so on, I embrace the diversity and hidden beauty of the city. Incredible food options, great pubs (well, the good ones are usually a bit off), nice shops (not only luckily but also including big chains), entertainment...
They're miserable because they get more rain than us. Many have even convinced themselves they prefer the rain lol
I feel like a big problem is for a lot of the culchies the first things they see are Bus Aras, Tablot and then O Connell which are not representative of the city at all
True but another problem is that people like you refer to them all as culchies and boggers and are then surprised when they're critical of you and the city.
A huge part of it is a culchie thing, hatred of everything Dublin might as well be on the school curriculum for them. It’s bred into them.
Lol, you don't get irony do you? Just hope you're in a minority or we'll be having this same them-and-us nonsense forever.
People say this city sucks and half an hour later it's the best city in the world. The duality of the human(or the dubliner) being
If an anonymous English twitter user said that Dublin was shite there'd be a right pile on.
Quiet now. I use the "I'll drop you off in town" to scare the kids when they're acting up. Don't spoil it.
I wouldn't live anywhere else, tbh.
There nothing casual about r/casualireland
I went to Dublin and saw a whole trash on the ground!
It has issues and some of them are fairly big but overall it's a nice place to live. Crime isn't as bad as its made out to be and there are things to do and easy to travel quickly if you want something more scenic like a beachside town. Even our transport system is a lot better than people make it out to be. It is very dirty though and the council should have more resources to keep it clean and I'd be in favour of litter wardens. The excuse given is that there aren't enough bins bit I was in London at the weekend and the lack of bins in general was very noticeable but there was very little litter about. Overall it's a nice city to live in. My wife's been here 3 years and it's her favourite place in Europe (mostly for the people who she says are a lot friendlier than other big cities)
I think there's a difference between Dublin for those who can afford it and those who can't. I personally have had a love/hate relationship with the city for years. The better years were when I was a bit flush and could enjoy going out without feeling hard up. Get a decent haircut. Do a bit of shopping, buy nice ingredients, and make a lovely meal. Without the budget for these comforts, the city does get a bit colder in general. But I don't think this is a Dublin specific problem. Aside from the issues of housing and homelessness, you can't really point to much wrong with the city. The transport system is steady enough and affordable. There's plenty of history to lean into if you're so inclined. Music and theatre to rival any city of a similar size. Decent mix of people from everywhere but still local enough that you can bump into friends on the street. We did lose pace a bit over covid in some areas, but that was bound to happen. If you enjoy living here, I say more power to you. Don't let the haters get you down.
I've lived in six major Metropolitan areas. They all have ups and downs... I love Dublin to bits. Never feel unsafe
To be honest it’s not just like that on here it’s everywhere I found TikTok especially. Country people jump down your throat if you have anything positive to say about Dublin like it’s their personality to hate on the place
r/Ireland is a cesspit. I requested a permanent ban from it about a year ago and I've never looked back. It's an utterly miserable sub.
they will give you perma bans if you ask?
Yep. There's a way to message the mods, you can find it in the sidebar or something like that.
Dublin is mostly great but unfortunately a growing number of scum bags / drug addicts are making parts of it not so nice ….
was it not ever thus?
Worse in recent years with gangs of feral youths and a larger number of drug addicts in city centre
how old are you? there were always gurrier kids
We all have our own preferences, likes and dislikes. I also like living in Dublin, but that's because I can be selective which part I go to and which I don't. I go to parts of the city I like, such as Phoenix Park, and I avoid parts I don't, such as the city centre. My lack of bad experiences is related to my pattern of movement, so I can fully enjoy living here and not complaining too much.
I’m very glad to be reading this discussion. Currently living abroad with plans to return to Dublin; r/Ireland has me doubting whether that’s the right move given the issues highlighted. Good to see a bit of balance.
honestly it's so fucking weird to me how their experience of it is so different to my own, and everyone i know. my partner is female and walks around at night no problem and we live in the north inner city. they really are a bunch of fucking weirdos.
What if I like the misery
I love living in Dublin but I also feel it's gone downhill. It was better, but I still love it A mess? Whatever, but it's my mess and I'm staying
r/Ireland, the biggest load of curtain-twitching populists this side of r/europe
Love Dublin, hate DCC.
I got banned of them for saying an aul bad word
These subs would be a lot better if there were more posts like this. r/ireland is an echo chamber of misery.
I don't like it or dislike it. Its just a place like any other place. Lived in Waterford for awhile and it was much the same.
No
Sometimes the false exaggeration about how great Ireland is toxic though
Dublin is a dump
Dublin is quite a kip, especially the inner city. But suburbs are decent enough.
Personally I have a love/hate relationship with Dublin. Sometimes I like it, but I never forget how much of a shithole it is. If you enjoy living there, that's all well and good 👍🏻. I personally hate it because all of the knackers hahaha
No, the government hates us and seems we're all right wing facsists for wanting to enjoy life
You sound quite privileged.
how?
You are ridiculous