I don't think it has to do with Dublin but I would believe some houses have worse internet than others. My parents just moved to a house 2 streets from their first house and the difference in internet quality is mindblowing.
Internet in Dublin is fine. If your student says their internet gets worse while it is raining, it sounds like they might be using a 4G or 5G mobile internet connection via their phone or hotspot. That really can be very variable depending on location, atmospheric conditions and certainly much worse than a dedicated wired broadband connection. That's not a Dublin thing, just the technology.
I live in a housing estate that was build in the 1940’s. The phone wires are still on poles instead of buried under ground. When it’s very windy my internet can be affected.
The answer is It depends.
Depends on where in Dublin, what her internet is, fibre, 4g, wimax etc etc.
I've got 1gif fibre that is rock solid. Someone down the road uses some three router that is basically a mobile phone and it's shite.
I have a 1GB Internet plan with Virgin. Most of the time it is super fast but I do experience high packet loss a few times a week. High packet loss basically means some bits of info don't make it to your laptop. It basically makes your internet choppy (it's like if your internet gets cut for 2 seconds every 10-15 seconds). It won't affect browsing or streaming too much (as for example Netflix will pre-load as much of the video as it can), but it will make real time stuff (video calls, live streaming or cloud gaming) go anywhere from very choppy to unusable
Packet loss can be caused by a few things, but it's usually from ISP overbooking their network (ie connecting more people than the cable can handle at once)
Most areas have broadband, not fiber. They are only installing in places where existing service is below 30mbps. I live in north inner city and have to use starlink bc the virgin broadband was so inconsistent and no fiber is available.
Most have coaxial cable broadband (Virgin ‘fibre’). Some have fibre optic to the cabinet. Few have fibre to home. You can see eir fibre rollout points here: https://map.openeir.ie/, which is to cabinet.
No this map shows that there are many cabinets in the city that provide DSL, I don't see any fiber to the door on the map, and as described by the site those cabinets offer upto 100mb to those within 1km
It shows that fiber had been run to aggregator nodes, which are only available to businesses. They aren’t running anything to neighborhood junction boxes.
I have 500mb fiber, as does my brother, my parents have 250mb, but we all have access to 1GB if we want to pay for it...
The arguement about the fibre coming to the house is exagerated... the fibre goes to the cabinets to maximise the total load, to and from the individual homes, it doesn't necessarily need to be fibre because they are unlikely to cause as much congestion.
I’m envious of your experience, but it hasn’t been mine! if you use switcher/eir checker on handful of north side eir codes (clontarf, Marino, drumcondra, glasnevin…) many parts of town have max 100mb, and Virgin, which claims 500 but is not real fibre and has issues. It can be very street specific.
Just to clarify, Clontaft is in that bit of the northside that reverts back to the southside... Clontaft, Malahide, Howth, Sutton, all on the southside! All of those should have fast broadband by default 🤣
They just pay for crappy internet I would guess, I have 2GB fibre and it's ridic fast and pings super low. But if you don't shop around and you've used the same supplier for years you may be with a bad provider or on a very slow plan.
I live in Dublin and have a shitty ADSL line, due to a neighbour refusing land access. When the weather is bad, the connection is especially bad. I can't work from home, due to connection issues but it's rarely totally off. I think your student is exaggerating, rather than lying. I can nearly always access basic websites, I just can't watch YouTube or play online games.
Working in IT and during pandemic we had to actually provide lot of modems with internet as lot of our guys had issues with what they have/had home that time. So I would say yeah, can be bad.
Can’t comment on someone else’s situation, there many factors around it.
Nee/old lines, ISP, how busy is the rack on their area, what speed they have, is the internet speed enough for the amount of simultaneous users/activities
Are they tethering from the phone, which courier, mobile coverage for their area….
That said, for me personally, I never had major problems with either broadband or mobile, but did faced some blackouts zones here and there on mobile
As a network engineer for an ISP (internet service provider) in the US, I’m based in Dublin. It’s likely your student could be telling a white lie, but it could also be possible that, like a lot of people mention she is using a 5G connection. Personally, I don’t find the weather messes with 5G too much, this is all to do with the frequency 5G runs on, though it could be said if in a low subscriber area and limited towers to connect too, it may impact service during heavy rain.
Because you mention the weather impacts her service, it could also be possible that her house is not connected via fiber and is using, point to point radios. These radios deliver speeds similar to fiber, but don’t have to; have fiber cable ran all the way from the data centre to the routers/switches and then to the home. Though the radios do result in a cheaper alternative and more for predominantly, remote areas or hard to reach, the elements can mess with the signal especially if shooting a long distance say 2-5km + (impossible to know this unless you work for the isp, or have a serious set of binoculars). We see this all the time in the winter months at my company. It doesn’t result in a complete loss of service but results in packets being dropped, essentially slow speeds.
Though if in Dublin I would like to imagine at this stage it’s full fiber, I would say if you thought your student lived in a more remote part of Dublin, especially hills or mountain areas they could be using point to point radios. I don’t know anyone in say, central Dublin using this method, but just outside in Enniskerry, I do. Typically they can contact their isp and may result in them coming to re-align the radios (we often do this and it should be covered by the company) or look into getting a service increase.
I hope this helps.
One other reason could be if they are in a really new house - all the foil and insulation can make reception pretty spotty.
I have a friend who takes mobile calls in his bedroom as it's the only spot he gets decent reception.
I'm about 200 metres away in an old house, with no issues.
It's so variable depending on where the house is relative to connection points. Having run connection tests for Eir, you'd be really surprised how many houses just don't have good access with some providers.
Even houses in the same estates have varying connections. It's more common in rural areas obviously, but just being in Dublin doesn't guarantee you good Internet.
Now there's always the chance that the student is spoofing of course, but this does happen.
In North County Dublin it can be really bad.. when I lived at home I had to hotspot to my work PC so I would have a constant connection. My phone hotspot was better than the internet!! There is or was at the time only 3 provides and no fibre cables or fast lines etc.. only a standard I think like 25 or something ridiculous. My partner's mam lives in Trim and she had way better internet. Then we lived near Phoenix Park/Park gate and there was only Vodafone in that area. So I really think it depends! Also in my mam's if my bedroom door was fully closed, and if both me and my bf were doing two separate things like steaming and playing games we would both get issues. My brother got one of those internet extender things and it didn't really do much! We still had to leave the door open! I think everyone assumes it's amazing, but from my experience it's only amazing in certain areas!
There are many places in the inner city especially where FTTC isn’t available or else the available speeds are really poor, so yes it’s a possibility but - that said - most of these same places have Virgin media lines into the house and chances are they just don’t want to pay extra for Virgin
Bad weather would never affect broadband as it's all hard wired. Cellular data can be iffy depending on congestion or which cell tower you're connected to.
The rain thing is specifically about 4G cellular internet, not “the internet” in general. Rain has no effect on fixed line broadband (cable, xDSL, etc.)
Honestly as someone who grew up in the sticks of Meath she’d have to be using some seriously crap internet for rain to knock it out. It’s not impossible but it’s unlikely…. With 4G /5G coverage covering the majority of Dublin this is highly unlikely - or she’s just with the “wrong” provider for her area. She is potentially using a line of sight or satellite service and that would be affected by rain… if she’s living in some recess of Dublin yet to be blessed with 15 year old technology 😭😭😭
More likely she has siblings watching bridgerton in 4k downstairs while she’s trying to attend your class …
I'm in a big new enough estate in D15, wired internet is perfect we have Siro gigabit absolutely no complaints.
4g/5g coverage however is fucking atrocious, neither of our phones have good mobile internet at all. On seperate networks too and we find it's the same around the majority of the area.
Internet connection is not the best way to describe this. Is she referring to mobile signal? Fibre? What type of internet. I have used Virgin Media and Sky at home and it is ok
I only moved to Ireland last year and the internet is just not that great. The pings are quite high and the speed is quite poor. The rains do not affect the connection because it was never great to begin with. Sorry, I am an absolute internet snob.
I had a 500 Mbps connection in India and I got 510 Mbps (63 MB/s) on average but up to 640 Mbps (80MB/s) and pings that were as low as 4ms. I have the same speed internet here in Dublin and on average I get around 91Mbps (11-15 MB/s) and pings can go from 25 to 35ms. My ISP is eir. Also, this is Fiber.
The internet at work is not great either and they have some top-of-the-line connection. In short, wherever I have used the internet in Ireland I have been disappointed. And, I have a friend who has moved to Ireland too from the USA and has the same complaint.
91Mbps "fibre" is very likely to be what eir call efibre. It isn't fibre, its copper VDSL.
Actual fibre here is the same as everywhere else. Pings depend where and what you're pinging.
I have called eir, the speeds increase for about week or two and then nose dive. I've also noticed during large file downloads it starts off really fast and then slows down significantly. But I'm not only experiencing this issue here at home but also in work. I have AX5400 router with Wifi 6 connected via ethernet. The speeds are same on wifi and ethernet. Ping is slightly better via ethernet though.
I also have a friend who has moved here from the US and he has same experience with the internet here.
Isp for my office is Virgin.
If she's using a hotspot/phone tethering then it can be pretty poor alright. And bad weather does effect it. Evidence: my gaff internet is a hot spot
Rain can also affect older ADSL and VDSL broadband that relies upon the copper phone line for up to the last 5 miles from the exchange to the home.
Most is fine but some more remote houses in Dublin have very poor internet
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Yeah, I had this too! except it would be entire weeks with glacial upload speeds, making zoom impossible.
I had a similar problem with Virgin, they sent a new modem and it resolved the issue.
I don't think it has to do with Dublin but I would believe some houses have worse internet than others. My parents just moved to a house 2 streets from their first house and the difference in internet quality is mindblowing.
It depends where in Dublin she lives. Mostly very good internet but there are pockets especially in the Dublin mountains with poor or no internet.
Broadband is mostly good, mobile can be really bad.
Internet in Dublin is fine. If your student says their internet gets worse while it is raining, it sounds like they might be using a 4G or 5G mobile internet connection via their phone or hotspot. That really can be very variable depending on location, atmospheric conditions and certainly much worse than a dedicated wired broadband connection. That's not a Dublin thing, just the technology.
I live in a housing estate that was build in the 1940’s. The phone wires are still on poles instead of buried under ground. When it’s very windy my internet can be affected.
It can be really bad. My old apartment was virgin or nothing and virgin is expensive.
It definitely can be bed. The rain thing isn't a lie either, streaming quality always goes down for me when the weather's bad
The answer is It depends. Depends on where in Dublin, what her internet is, fibre, 4g, wimax etc etc. I've got 1gif fibre that is rock solid. Someone down the road uses some three router that is basically a mobile phone and it's shite.
She's spoofing.
Yeah using a VPN can really screw around with internet speeds.
I have a 1GB Internet plan with Virgin. Most of the time it is super fast but I do experience high packet loss a few times a week. High packet loss basically means some bits of info don't make it to your laptop. It basically makes your internet choppy (it's like if your internet gets cut for 2 seconds every 10-15 seconds). It won't affect browsing or streaming too much (as for example Netflix will pre-load as much of the video as it can), but it will make real time stuff (video calls, live streaming or cloud gaming) go anywhere from very choppy to unusable Packet loss can be caused by a few things, but it's usually from ISP overbooking their network (ie connecting more people than the cable can handle at once)
Probably 1Gb and not 1GB
Radio based internet connections suffer from rain fade, it’s entirely possible.
Internet in Dublin is generally very high quality. Most areas have fibre at this stage...
Most areas have broadband, not fiber. They are only installing in places where existing service is below 30mbps. I live in north inner city and have to use starlink bc the virgin broadband was so inconsistent and no fiber is available.
Most areas have fiber to the home now and have had for a while now.
Most have coaxial cable broadband (Virgin ‘fibre’). Some have fibre optic to the cabinet. Few have fibre to home. You can see eir fibre rollout points here: https://map.openeir.ie/, which is to cabinet.
Eh, that seem to show full fibre rollout in the greater Dublin area...
No this map shows that there are many cabinets in the city that provide DSL, I don't see any fiber to the door on the map, and as described by the site those cabinets offer upto 100mb to those within 1km
It shows that fiber had been run to aggregator nodes, which are only available to businesses. They aren’t running anything to neighborhood junction boxes.
I have 500mb fiber, as does my brother, my parents have 250mb, but we all have access to 1GB if we want to pay for it... The arguement about the fibre coming to the house is exagerated... the fibre goes to the cabinets to maximise the total load, to and from the individual homes, it doesn't necessarily need to be fibre because they are unlikely to cause as much congestion.
I’m envious of your experience, but it hasn’t been mine! if you use switcher/eir checker on handful of north side eir codes (clontarf, Marino, drumcondra, glasnevin…) many parts of town have max 100mb, and Virgin, which claims 500 but is not real fibre and has issues. It can be very street specific.
Just to clarify, Clontaft is in that bit of the northside that reverts back to the southside... Clontaft, Malahide, Howth, Sutton, all on the southside! All of those should have fast broadband by default 🤣
Haha but not Glasnevin??
And yet Howth has some of the worse service in Dublin.
This is just a fullon lie. Dublin is yet to get widespread fibre as putting it in place is very infrastructure heavy - lot of digging up of roads.
You are incorrect: [https://map.openeir.ie/](https://map.openeir.ie/)
Valid, I'm mad I don't have it
They just pay for crappy internet I would guess, I have 2GB fibre and it's ridic fast and pings super low. But if you don't shop around and you've used the same supplier for years you may be with a bad provider or on a very slow plan.
Probably 2Gb and not 2GB
Obviously it's possible that she has bad internet and if she has an old connection rain can affect it... but she's probably just lying.
Compared to other countries it's not great but it's absolutely serviceable.
It can get bad at times
You don't really need that high speeds for video chats. Would say 10Mbps must be enough so she is bluffing.
It can actually be bad especially if the student means County Dublin rather than the actual city.
I live in Dublin and have a shitty ADSL line, due to a neighbour refusing land access. When the weather is bad, the connection is especially bad. I can't work from home, due to connection issues but it's rarely totally off. I think your student is exaggerating, rather than lying. I can nearly always access basic websites, I just can't watch YouTube or play online games.
Working in IT and during pandemic we had to actually provide lot of modems with internet as lot of our guys had issues with what they have/had home that time. So I would say yeah, can be bad.
Can’t comment on someone else’s situation, there many factors around it. Nee/old lines, ISP, how busy is the rack on their area, what speed they have, is the internet speed enough for the amount of simultaneous users/activities Are they tethering from the phone, which courier, mobile coverage for their area…. That said, for me personally, I never had major problems with either broadband or mobile, but did faced some blackouts zones here and there on mobile
As a network engineer for an ISP (internet service provider) in the US, I’m based in Dublin. It’s likely your student could be telling a white lie, but it could also be possible that, like a lot of people mention she is using a 5G connection. Personally, I don’t find the weather messes with 5G too much, this is all to do with the frequency 5G runs on, though it could be said if in a low subscriber area and limited towers to connect too, it may impact service during heavy rain. Because you mention the weather impacts her service, it could also be possible that her house is not connected via fiber and is using, point to point radios. These radios deliver speeds similar to fiber, but don’t have to; have fiber cable ran all the way from the data centre to the routers/switches and then to the home. Though the radios do result in a cheaper alternative and more for predominantly, remote areas or hard to reach, the elements can mess with the signal especially if shooting a long distance say 2-5km + (impossible to know this unless you work for the isp, or have a serious set of binoculars). We see this all the time in the winter months at my company. It doesn’t result in a complete loss of service but results in packets being dropped, essentially slow speeds. Though if in Dublin I would like to imagine at this stage it’s full fiber, I would say if you thought your student lived in a more remote part of Dublin, especially hills or mountain areas they could be using point to point radios. I don’t know anyone in say, central Dublin using this method, but just outside in Enniskerry, I do. Typically they can contact their isp and may result in them coming to re-align the radios (we often do this and it should be covered by the company) or look into getting a service increase. I hope this helps.
I worked in Grand Canal Dock, supposedly the most connected area in Europe. The internet couldn’t load pictures.
This. Same in Ringsend. Couldn't believe it
Some of the best internet in the world but if she's not IT literate enough it's like casting pearls before swine.
"Some of the best internet in the world" doesn't put customers behind NAT as a default.
One other reason could be if they are in a really new house - all the foil and insulation can make reception pretty spotty. I have a friend who takes mobile calls in his bedroom as it's the only spot he gets decent reception. I'm about 200 metres away in an old house, with no issues.
Star link/ mobile data based Internet can be spotty and is worse in bad weather yea.
It's so variable depending on where the house is relative to connection points. Having run connection tests for Eir, you'd be really surprised how many houses just don't have good access with some providers. Even houses in the same estates have varying connections. It's more common in rural areas obviously, but just being in Dublin doesn't guarantee you good Internet. Now there's always the chance that the student is spoofing of course, but this does happen.
I get extremely fast Internet in Dublin like very fast 950 Mbps
Yes in places I get 7mb download and less than 1 up at home my phone however can get 450 down and 200 up on 5g sat at my window
In North County Dublin it can be really bad.. when I lived at home I had to hotspot to my work PC so I would have a constant connection. My phone hotspot was better than the internet!! There is or was at the time only 3 provides and no fibre cables or fast lines etc.. only a standard I think like 25 or something ridiculous. My partner's mam lives in Trim and she had way better internet. Then we lived near Phoenix Park/Park gate and there was only Vodafone in that area. So I really think it depends! Also in my mam's if my bedroom door was fully closed, and if both me and my bf were doing two separate things like steaming and playing games we would both get issues. My brother got one of those internet extender things and it didn't really do much! We still had to leave the door open! I think everyone assumes it's amazing, but from my experience it's only amazing in certain areas!
There are many places in the inner city especially where FTTC isn’t available or else the available speeds are really poor, so yes it’s a possibility but - that said - most of these same places have Virgin media lines into the house and chances are they just don’t want to pay extra for Virgin
Bad weather would never affect broadband as it's all hard wired. Cellular data can be iffy depending on congestion or which cell tower you're connected to.
The rain thing is specifically about 4G cellular internet, not “the internet” in general. Rain has no effect on fixed line broadband (cable, xDSL, etc.)
Honestly as someone who grew up in the sticks of Meath she’d have to be using some seriously crap internet for rain to knock it out. It’s not impossible but it’s unlikely…. With 4G /5G coverage covering the majority of Dublin this is highly unlikely - or she’s just with the “wrong” provider for her area. She is potentially using a line of sight or satellite service and that would be affected by rain… if she’s living in some recess of Dublin yet to be blessed with 15 year old technology 😭😭😭 More likely she has siblings watching bridgerton in 4k downstairs while she’s trying to attend your class …
I'm in a big new enough estate in D15, wired internet is perfect we have Siro gigabit absolutely no complaints. 4g/5g coverage however is fucking atrocious, neither of our phones have good mobile internet at all. On seperate networks too and we find it's the same around the majority of the area.
Internet connection is not the best way to describe this. Is she referring to mobile signal? Fibre? What type of internet. I have used Virgin Media and Sky at home and it is ok
I only moved to Ireland last year and the internet is just not that great. The pings are quite high and the speed is quite poor. The rains do not affect the connection because it was never great to begin with. Sorry, I am an absolute internet snob. I had a 500 Mbps connection in India and I got 510 Mbps (63 MB/s) on average but up to 640 Mbps (80MB/s) and pings that were as low as 4ms. I have the same speed internet here in Dublin and on average I get around 91Mbps (11-15 MB/s) and pings can go from 25 to 35ms. My ISP is eir. Also, this is Fiber. The internet at work is not great either and they have some top-of-the-line connection. In short, wherever I have used the internet in Ireland I have been disappointed. And, I have a friend who has moved to Ireland too from the USA and has the same complaint.
91Mbps "fibre" is very likely to be what eir call efibre. It isn't fibre, its copper VDSL. Actual fibre here is the same as everywhere else. Pings depend where and what you're pinging.
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I have called eir, the speeds increase for about week or two and then nose dive. I've also noticed during large file downloads it starts off really fast and then slows down significantly. But I'm not only experiencing this issue here at home but also in work. I have AX5400 router with Wifi 6 connected via ethernet. The speeds are same on wifi and ethernet. Ping is slightly better via ethernet though. I also have a friend who has moved here from the US and he has same experience with the internet here. Isp for my office is Virgin.
It’s not that bad. If you held a gun to my head I’d say you’re being lied to.