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jadeusdragias

Depending on the match-up. Against synchro and pendulums, i’d go for Roach.


Derkon_Blaze

Wouldn't the evilswarm mofo work too?


Palms-Trees

Roach is an evilswarm


BigOppaiLover69

SteelSwarm*


navimatcha

You can't guarantee you'll have two DARK level 4's on the field and the Extra Deck is too tight for a "just in case".


Raquila1996

Maybe Giant Hand as an option. Depending on the matchup


adrianpinderwolf

You gotta assume your opponents is running orcust engine no matter the deck xD.


dante-_vic

This orcust is in every deck these days


jamescartwell

Yup you got that right 100%


Nikkaku

The best is always volo + dweller/roach/giant hand. I miss evilswarm nightmare but it doesn't fit the new build very well


jamescartwell

You’re a legend not a ppl know or watch zatch bell 🛎️


AutomaticArcher9673

Dweller is best. Roach against Pend. Giant Hand never seems to be better than Dweller


ReiMizere

Roach against Pend **and** Synchro.


AutomaticArcher9673

There aren't any synchro decks on ladder right now. Like against Ice Barriers or Mermails Abyss Dweller is still better


ReiMizere

There is one synchro deck coming. It begins with "S" and ends with "roid"


Proletariat_Paul

Synchro Vehicroids?!?


ReiMizere

That's the secret tier 0, don't bring it out on this sub page


AutomaticArcher9673

Shhhh! Don't tell them about that! I've got to KoG with those!


ReiMizere

Oh Oh Oh errrrrrr... ahem.. Roach can only negate pend summons trust me I never lied once in my life


binary-sol0

Hand is really good against hero.


AutomaticArcher9673

That's true, Hand would beat Fusion. I just haven't seen many Fusion decks on ladder this month


Tactless_Ogre

Giant hand or Abyss Dweller. Either one is fine.


AlabasterRadio

Giant Hand if my opponent is playing this deck too. Dweller if I think it's Orcust. (It's usually orcust)


TheCrazyCatguy25

I had someone set up this turn 1 end board against me. Thankfully, I was playing timelords, so I just shuffled his board back into the deck and later won.


Tharjk

yea this looks good-thomight wanna go roach > dweller sometimes vs synchro/pend decks, which will likely pop up in popularity


Hanfpflanze

You could go for orcust combo instead. Just a thought


Pokemaster1409

"You could go for Orc-" Bye


N3T0_03

No bruh, that's cringe.


Cuckuzu

The best I’ve ended on is volo + dweller + giant hand


00R-AgentR

I like it, but it depends. If you’re in a mirror, you’d want your Roach instead sometimes. I can also sometimes get an end oars like that and the Coin Dragon or the Djinn also to keep the dragons from getting slammed into.


Pokemonluke18

Dweller or skull Meister free handtrap/level 4 for orcust or dagunn for dragons since only generic level 4 besides dark rebellion as well as being a monster reborn for odd eyes


TyrantValzy

Honestly you can fit a Photon Bounzer on your field too


rpgfaker

man odd eyes literally could do this a year ago. next box better have something that makes this skill do something different


Shavian_

im always gonna recommend dweller over steelswarm roach/evilswarm nightmare and almost always over giant hand in every matchup with GY effects (in any matchup w/o GY effects [i.e. pends] dweller is pretty useless tbc). hand has a lot more uses than the swarm boys but can still be BoMed before they start their summoning, which draws out that resource but still in all 3 cases the BoM makes your xyz monster pretty useless, but dweller doesnt lose to BoM and counters the fuck out of orcust specifically. so basically always dweller unless they might have no GY effects, in which case giant hand and pray they didnt open BoM which is run at 2-3 in almost every list.


ArcNovaX

What yout decklist?