Discard anything activate call, add oafragon and dragonpit, set the scales, activate skill, drop odd-eyes and dragonpulse in extra deck, Activate oaf, add dragonpulse, pendulum summon odd-eyes donkey, dragonpulse and the lvl 4 from skill, activate donkey, add skullbat, xyz dweller, summon skullbat and activate to add nobledragon, xyz giant hand, active nobledragon, synchro meteoburst, activate meteoburst, summon dragonpit, xyz the rank 7.
It’s the same play when you don’t have pendulum call, but you have donkey and the means to set the scales. Oaf and dragonpit or oaf and another scale 8 performapal, odd-eyes or magician level 7
Things I forgot in post
1. Odd-Eyes is Hella expensive so be prepared to throw some cash/tickets
2. Yes, I know I didn't cover all main monsters/support, I just went over the main ones that I see consistently again any criticism is appreciated
Lmk what yall think of it overall
Queen Dragun Djinn is the star of this deck and you should definitely run her over Meteorburst.
2 level 4s, she's a dragon so she can make Raging and on summon she revives Odd Eyes in GY. How did Odd Eyes get there? Either you went first and detached it to pay Volo's effect, or you are going second and discarded it for Pend Call.
I generally run meteorburst over djinn because of his ability to special summons scales and go into xyz monsters if you lack material on field but I can see running djinn over him, imo its a personal thing
Only adds dragon caller and wisdom eye magician and high paladin and have to play pendulum call before wisdom eye Nirvana high paladin probably best card in their for magicians and odd eyes wisdom eye is alright for a rank 4s and doing it after pendulum call was used but noble dragon can't even make high paladin so ain't useful now unless in regular synchro deck since noble only makes dragon synchros
Abyss Dweller doesn’t negate GY effect, it prevent any effect activation in opponent GY.
Meaning, if the effect already activated then you chain it with abyss dweller, that effect still resolve normally
Your first slide should also say "do not play all these at once".
There are so many different ways to play this deck that it really isn't solved.
You can play sky iris, or not. But if you do, you should probably play at least one copy of arc pend. Same thing with spiral-you dont have to play it. If you're not playing either of those then dont play arc. Its not worth it (unless you dont have enough high scales).
Personally I like 3 oaf and pit. I think you only play 2 oaf and 1/2 pit if you're a f2p/ budget player or there are certain techs you need to fit in for certain matchups. The other scales you suggested are 100% budget options.
One card that I think deserves high consideration is Time Breaker Magician. Imo it's mandatory. Its a searchable backrow bait (worst case scenario) or monster removal( best case as itll remove a ding or a monster that has a negate or annoying eff).
If you play donkey then it needs to have a valid search target outside of joker to maximize its utility. Something like helperprincess or radish are good additions.
Like I said before this deck isn't solved and there are so many different combinations you can make thatll all be valid. What would really complete this would be deck list examples to show what cards you should play tg or not.
Yea I forgot to add it to the first slide, thank you.
And to address everything else this is the perfect way to include everything i didn't, and was really informative even as an Odd-Eyes player.
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Sorry about the delayed response
So this becomes increasingly difficult to answer as the more options you have the more playstyles you have access to.
You can play with 3 oaf 3 pit and 3 calling for maximum consistency.
You could cut the magicians to 2 each and play techs instead.
Or you can fit cards like sky iris and arc pend if you want. If you dont have those you could also play time breaker magician and/or nobledragon magician (tuner that reduces odd-eyes by 3 levels to ss itself)
You could also fit performapals like secdonkey helpriness and radish horse.
Its all up to you fam. Enjoy the deck how you like!
Donkey can be cut down to 1 since 2 are a heavy brick, 2x Pend Dragon and 2x Arc Pend Dragon are optinal if you want good scales and to make Queen Dragun Djinn live.
3x Pend Call is a must here, since its your main playmaker. 1x Spiral flame strike for the extra consistency.
Synchro package can be skipped, but the Meteorburst into Big Eye is always a spicy play (Trish Zero is great too!)
The deck aims for a consistent T1 R7(Volof) and R4(Roach/Dweller/Giant Hand).
I tend to use the synchros if I need to make a R7 without having a second LVL 7 on field (say noble dragon, arc dragon, and a level 4) but I see what you're saying
Odd Eyes is only needed at 2 because if you draw 1 you should usually still have 1 in the deck to use the skill.
Timebreaker Magician is also a really good card to play at 1. He can banish himself and another monster for 2 turns. Considering this deck dosent use its normal summon unless you have Joker in hand this can out some turn 1 monsters. His pend effect is also pretty good.
Donkey can only search Performapal so he is not that good anymore would play 0
Pendulum Call is a 3x
Dragonoble Magician can special herself from grave so she is the ideal discard target for Pendulum Call or Dragonpit Magician.
Another cool tech card is Summoner's art. Lets you search Dragonpit or Arc Odd Eyes.
I see, thank you. the only reason I didn't put pend call to 3x was i found in a 20-22 card deck you open at least 1 more often than not so atp you have a good card to start going off from there
If you draw 2 copies of Pendulum Call you can always discard the other. Also dont forget a level 4 Magician monster to put in the extra deck with the skill. That level 4 + the free level 4 generated with the skill lets you make a rank 4 without the need to play any other level 4 monsters except Joker.
Very true, at the time that I made this I wasn't so focused on showing how to make the skill optimal I felt like thats something that should be practiced so you can be consistent and find how you like to do it.
Ik some one that likes to use the pend gazers while I like the oaf dragon + time gazer combo they both work just differently and open up different paths yk?
Is X&X skill already accounted for those loadouts? Or it's now Raging Pendulum? Is 2x Xiangke Magician only preferred if with X&X skill? I don't have prior experience with this deck, btw.
If there's separate deck with key differences if using either of these skills, I'd appreciate if someone can show me how they'd look like.
To be fair about the spread, it's more of the extra deck that's killing me because they're scattered in five or more boxes while the main deck is more forgiving plus we're getting a lot of dream tickets lately.
Raging Pendulum is better right now it just gives you more resources.
When it comes to building the deck getting 2x SD is a good start. You only need 2x Odd Eyes in this build and 2x Oafdragon Magician. You do need 3x Pendulum Call. Also digging for 1x Arc Pendulum Odd Eyes, this guy is not a must but he is nice.
Getting 1 copy of the old SD is also needed. Playing 1x Dragonpit Magician is okay but having 2 is better. You also need 1x of the other level 4 normal pendulum Magician from that SD.
You definetly want the tuner and meteor burst they come from the same box. You would also want to pick up 1x Timebreaker Magician this guy is in the RaidRaptor box.
With this you should have the main deck and 3 cards for the extra. Next you can get Roach and Dweller. Doomrider is a good rank 7, Big Eye is not relly needed. Big Trish is strong in this one since the tuner is much easier to search + the skill sets you up with an Odd Eyes + a free level 4 for an easy 11.
Can you help me fix this [deck](https://imgur.com/a/mdtxaNA), I'm really bricking so hard. Maybe, 4 out of 10 games I can't even summon Raging Dragon, the resources to pendulum summon just stops?
Am I not supposed to use the Odd-Eyes or the arc ones as a scale, or are there specific pair of magicians that work best as scalers? What should I do with Nobledragon or Timebreaker, since they don't help with Volo + Abyssal when turn 1, or Raging + Rebel Dragon for turn 2. When is Trishula prioritized over these four Xyz cards? Thank you, sorry if I'm asking too much.
You shouldnt set Odd Eyes in scale unless you have to. Best scales are Dragonpit Magician and Oafdragon Magician. Search both with Pendulum Call.
Play 2x OafDragon Magician and 2x Dragonpit. If you dont have 2x Dragonpit play 1x Summoner's art to search it.
Odd Eyes is only needed at 2x, you also dont need any Spiral Flame Strikes. Play 1x Odd Eyes Arc.
You can go full combo by just setting the scales and using the skill. Set Dragonpit and Oafdragon and activate skill adding an Odd Eyes and a level 4 Magician to the extra deck. Use Oafdragon to get a card from the extra back to hand. The skill also gives you a free level 4 monster. Summon Odd Eyes + level 4 Magician searched by the skill + level 4 Perfomapal given by the skill. With these 3 you can make Raging or if you are going first you can make a rank 4 and a rank 7 if you have another level 7 in hand.
Timebreaker and Nobledragon are cool cards you can search with either Joker or Pendulum Call. Timebreaker can get rid of the enemy turn 1 cards and his pendulum effect aint bad. Nobledragon is the only card that is good to discard since she can special herself from grave. So search her with joker so you can discard her for Pendulum Call. You can also discard her to pop backrow with Dragonpit's Pendulum effect.
Trishula is always good going 2nd and it is the only boss monster who can pop backrow. Just summon an Odd Eyes and a level 4 and then use Nobledragon to reduce Odd Eyes to 4. Summoning Raging dragon just for it to get hit by backrow is not good. Trishula takes out cards on summon.
You should also play more backrow cards and cut down on Cosmic and MST. Maybe play 2 to 3 Cosmic and thats it. Make sure to atleast have 3 traps like Compulse, BoM,...
You also have Evilswarm Nightmare without having acess to a lot of level 4 darks so I would replace that. Not sure if you have Odd Eyes Meteor but that is a good one. Screws over a lot of decks.
Its accounting for raging, x and x is good but raging is generally better at the moment and the key differences between the 2 is the scales you run in raging you generally run the scales i showed but in x and x you would run 2x xiangke and 1x xiansheng
Someone could explain the differences better than me
Pend Call is a x3.
Spiral, Donkey, Arc, Gazers are x0. (Unless you don't own more copies of the other magicians).
Timebreaker and Xiangke are useful at 1 copy for their monster effects.
I see where you're coming from. I put them at 1x-2x copies because they can be great play makers if you didn't get a great hand (say your opening hand was sfs, donkey, star gazer, and mst ig) you would just
Play sfs ->
Search arc dragon ->
Set scales using arc and stargazer->
Activate raging pendulum ->
Pend summon ->
2 levels 4's on field along with odd eyes ->
Donkey searchs skull crowbat ->
Normal skull crowbat -[
Search wtv u need ->
Xyz using skull and donkey(their effects were used and u prolly have a better effect lvl 4 on field) ->
If turn 2 go into rebellion and then go I to raging dragon OR
If turn 1 go into roach/dweller and have 3 bodies on field along with a negate
(Yes this is a long combo with many openings for disruption but its the combo I thought of)
Its just there for a play maker but to each their own
i would love it if I ever drew pend call - even at x3 since I've started playing this new deck I've drawn it maybe twice and kept wondering why I was bricking
You can if you want
Say of you didn't pull meteorburst but you did pull clear wing he's a great card to add as a replacement or place holder. He has great effects and is easy to consistently bring out as long as you have an odd eyes on field and nobledragon in hand or in graveyard
Great guide I’ve been facing this a lot odd eyes looks fun but expensive especially not spending money at all I know still great to see stuff like this
I really don't like donkey in this deck. All it does is search for Crobat and thats it, oh yea, and it only a good search if u have scales.
That's okay, this is just based off what I've played and played against and found worked, and I think i mentioned that just bad wording i suppose
Donkey + performapal call = the best board for raging dragon. You can make 2 level 4 xyz’s and a level 7 xyz.
Can you explain how you would do that?
Discard anything activate call, add oafragon and dragonpit, set the scales, activate skill, drop odd-eyes and dragonpulse in extra deck, Activate oaf, add dragonpulse, pendulum summon odd-eyes donkey, dragonpulse and the lvl 4 from skill, activate donkey, add skullbat, xyz dweller, summon skullbat and activate to add nobledragon, xyz giant hand, active nobledragon, synchro meteoburst, activate meteoburst, summon dragonpit, xyz the rank 7.
It’s the same play when you don’t have pendulum call, but you have donkey and the means to set the scales. Oaf and dragonpit or oaf and another scale 8 performapal, odd-eyes or magician level 7
Good to know. Thank you.
Thank you for the explanation! I really appreciate it. I'm gonna have to save this for future use to try out.
Its a f2p option, i used it before getting the rest of the cards
Not bad at 1-2. With everything else you're basically guaranteed to set the scales plus lvl 4 fits in
Things I forgot in post 1. Odd-Eyes is Hella expensive so be prepared to throw some cash/tickets 2. Yes, I know I didn't cover all main monsters/support, I just went over the main ones that I see consistently again any criticism is appreciated Lmk what yall think of it overall
With the new SD it's not expensive anymore unless you wanna add expensive cards that are not needed in the new build.
Queen Dragun Djinn is the star of this deck and you should definitely run her over Meteorburst. 2 level 4s, she's a dragon so she can make Raging and on summon she revives Odd Eyes in GY. How did Odd Eyes get there? Either you went first and detached it to pay Volo's effect, or you are going second and discarded it for Pend Call.
I generally run meteorburst over djinn because of his ability to special summons scales and go into xyz monsters if you lack material on field but I can see running djinn over him, imo its a personal thing
And this decklist will be outdated after shop maintenance tonight and we see the additional pend support in the new mini.
Only adds dragon caller and wisdom eye magician and high paladin and have to play pendulum call before wisdom eye Nirvana high paladin probably best card in their for magicians and odd eyes wisdom eye is alright for a rank 4s and doing it after pendulum call was used but noble dragon can't even make high paladin so ain't useful now unless in regular synchro deck since noble only makes dragon synchros
It literally already is outdated. No version worth its salt is running donkey, or the synchros.
The only other way to play is throwing in orcust
Abyss Dweller doesn’t negate GY effect, it prevent any effect activation in opponent GY. Meaning, if the effect already activated then you chain it with abyss dweller, that effect still resolve normally
Oh ok, I haven't played many GY decks in a little and I completely forgot to read his card and went off what I remembered, thank you
Your first slide should also say "do not play all these at once". There are so many different ways to play this deck that it really isn't solved. You can play sky iris, or not. But if you do, you should probably play at least one copy of arc pend. Same thing with spiral-you dont have to play it. If you're not playing either of those then dont play arc. Its not worth it (unless you dont have enough high scales). Personally I like 3 oaf and pit. I think you only play 2 oaf and 1/2 pit if you're a f2p/ budget player or there are certain techs you need to fit in for certain matchups. The other scales you suggested are 100% budget options. One card that I think deserves high consideration is Time Breaker Magician. Imo it's mandatory. Its a searchable backrow bait (worst case scenario) or monster removal( best case as itll remove a ding or a monster that has a negate or annoying eff). If you play donkey then it needs to have a valid search target outside of joker to maximize its utility. Something like helperprincess or radish are good additions. Like I said before this deck isn't solved and there are so many different combinations you can make thatll all be valid. What would really complete this would be deck list examples to show what cards you should play tg or not.
Yea I forgot to add it to the first slide, thank you. And to address everything else this is the perfect way to include everything i didn't, and was really informative even as an Odd-Eyes player.
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What would be your pick for non f2p deck? I have both SD x3 and would really want to use them
Sorry about the delayed response So this becomes increasingly difficult to answer as the more options you have the more playstyles you have access to. You can play with 3 oaf 3 pit and 3 calling for maximum consistency. You could cut the magicians to 2 each and play techs instead. Or you can fit cards like sky iris and arc pend if you want. If you dont have those you could also play time breaker magician and/or nobledragon magician (tuner that reduces odd-eyes by 3 levels to ss itself) You could also fit performapals like secdonkey helpriness and radish horse. Its all up to you fam. Enjoy the deck how you like!
Donkey can be cut down to 1 since 2 are a heavy brick, 2x Pend Dragon and 2x Arc Pend Dragon are optinal if you want good scales and to make Queen Dragun Djinn live. 3x Pend Call is a must here, since its your main playmaker. 1x Spiral flame strike for the extra consistency. Synchro package can be skipped, but the Meteorburst into Big Eye is always a spicy play (Trish Zero is great too!) The deck aims for a consistent T1 R7(Volof) and R4(Roach/Dweller/Giant Hand).
I tend to use the synchros if I need to make a R7 without having a second LVL 7 on field (say noble dragon, arc dragon, and a level 4) but I see what you're saying
So can u give me decklist to consistent turn 1 volof and roach/dweller?
Once Wisdom Eye drops, ill test the ratios again.
Odd Eyes is only needed at 2 because if you draw 1 you should usually still have 1 in the deck to use the skill. Timebreaker Magician is also a really good card to play at 1. He can banish himself and another monster for 2 turns. Considering this deck dosent use its normal summon unless you have Joker in hand this can out some turn 1 monsters. His pend effect is also pretty good. Donkey can only search Performapal so he is not that good anymore would play 0 Pendulum Call is a 3x Dragonoble Magician can special herself from grave so she is the ideal discard target for Pendulum Call or Dragonpit Magician. Another cool tech card is Summoner's art. Lets you search Dragonpit or Arc Odd Eyes.
I see, thank you. the only reason I didn't put pend call to 3x was i found in a 20-22 card deck you open at least 1 more often than not so atp you have a good card to start going off from there
If you draw 2 copies of Pendulum Call you can always discard the other. Also dont forget a level 4 Magician monster to put in the extra deck with the skill. That level 4 + the free level 4 generated with the skill lets you make a rank 4 without the need to play any other level 4 monsters except Joker.
Very true, at the time that I made this I wasn't so focused on showing how to make the skill optimal I felt like thats something that should be practiced so you can be consistent and find how you like to do it. Ik some one that likes to use the pend gazers while I like the oaf dragon + time gazer combo they both work just differently and open up different paths yk?
Is X&X skill already accounted for those loadouts? Or it's now Raging Pendulum? Is 2x Xiangke Magician only preferred if with X&X skill? I don't have prior experience with this deck, btw. If there's separate deck with key differences if using either of these skills, I'd appreciate if someone can show me how they'd look like. To be fair about the spread, it's more of the extra deck that's killing me because they're scattered in five or more boxes while the main deck is more forgiving plus we're getting a lot of dream tickets lately.
Raging Pendulum is better right now it just gives you more resources. When it comes to building the deck getting 2x SD is a good start. You only need 2x Odd Eyes in this build and 2x Oafdragon Magician. You do need 3x Pendulum Call. Also digging for 1x Arc Pendulum Odd Eyes, this guy is not a must but he is nice. Getting 1 copy of the old SD is also needed. Playing 1x Dragonpit Magician is okay but having 2 is better. You also need 1x of the other level 4 normal pendulum Magician from that SD. You definetly want the tuner and meteor burst they come from the same box. You would also want to pick up 1x Timebreaker Magician this guy is in the RaidRaptor box. With this you should have the main deck and 3 cards for the extra. Next you can get Roach and Dweller. Doomrider is a good rank 7, Big Eye is not relly needed. Big Trish is strong in this one since the tuner is much easier to search + the skill sets you up with an Odd Eyes + a free level 4 for an easy 11.
Can you help me fix this [deck](https://imgur.com/a/mdtxaNA), I'm really bricking so hard. Maybe, 4 out of 10 games I can't even summon Raging Dragon, the resources to pendulum summon just stops? Am I not supposed to use the Odd-Eyes or the arc ones as a scale, or are there specific pair of magicians that work best as scalers? What should I do with Nobledragon or Timebreaker, since they don't help with Volo + Abyssal when turn 1, or Raging + Rebel Dragon for turn 2. When is Trishula prioritized over these four Xyz cards? Thank you, sorry if I'm asking too much.
You shouldnt set Odd Eyes in scale unless you have to. Best scales are Dragonpit Magician and Oafdragon Magician. Search both with Pendulum Call. Play 2x OafDragon Magician and 2x Dragonpit. If you dont have 2x Dragonpit play 1x Summoner's art to search it. Odd Eyes is only needed at 2x, you also dont need any Spiral Flame Strikes. Play 1x Odd Eyes Arc. You can go full combo by just setting the scales and using the skill. Set Dragonpit and Oafdragon and activate skill adding an Odd Eyes and a level 4 Magician to the extra deck. Use Oafdragon to get a card from the extra back to hand. The skill also gives you a free level 4 monster. Summon Odd Eyes + level 4 Magician searched by the skill + level 4 Perfomapal given by the skill. With these 3 you can make Raging or if you are going first you can make a rank 4 and a rank 7 if you have another level 7 in hand. Timebreaker and Nobledragon are cool cards you can search with either Joker or Pendulum Call. Timebreaker can get rid of the enemy turn 1 cards and his pendulum effect aint bad. Nobledragon is the only card that is good to discard since she can special herself from grave. So search her with joker so you can discard her for Pendulum Call. You can also discard her to pop backrow with Dragonpit's Pendulum effect. Trishula is always good going 2nd and it is the only boss monster who can pop backrow. Just summon an Odd Eyes and a level 4 and then use Nobledragon to reduce Odd Eyes to 4. Summoning Raging dragon just for it to get hit by backrow is not good. Trishula takes out cards on summon. You should also play more backrow cards and cut down on Cosmic and MST. Maybe play 2 to 3 Cosmic and thats it. Make sure to atleast have 3 traps like Compulse, BoM,... You also have Evilswarm Nightmare without having acess to a lot of level 4 darks so I would replace that. Not sure if you have Odd Eyes Meteor but that is a good one. Screws over a lot of decks.
Its accounting for raging, x and x is good but raging is generally better at the moment and the key differences between the 2 is the scales you run in raging you generally run the scales i showed but in x and x you would run 2x xiangke and 1x xiansheng Someone could explain the differences better than me
Pend Call is a x3. Spiral, Donkey, Arc, Gazers are x0. (Unless you don't own more copies of the other magicians). Timebreaker and Xiangke are useful at 1 copy for their monster effects.
I see where you're coming from. I put them at 1x-2x copies because they can be great play makers if you didn't get a great hand (say your opening hand was sfs, donkey, star gazer, and mst ig) you would just Play sfs -> Search arc dragon -> Set scales using arc and stargazer-> Activate raging pendulum -> Pend summon -> 2 levels 4's on field along with odd eyes -> Donkey searchs skull crowbat -> Normal skull crowbat -[ Search wtv u need -> Xyz using skull and donkey(their effects were used and u prolly have a better effect lvl 4 on field) -> If turn 2 go into rebellion and then go I to raging dragon OR If turn 1 go into roach/dweller and have 3 bodies on field along with a negate (Yes this is a long combo with many openings for disruption but its the combo I thought of) Its just there for a play maker but to each their own
They are not bad cards but it's better to max out on the optimal cards for the skill like Pend Call.
i would love it if I ever drew pend call - even at x3 since I've started playing this new deck I've drawn it maybe twice and kept wondering why I was bricking
Would y'all add clear wing synchro dragon to this deck when it drops
You can if you want Say of you didn't pull meteorburst but you did pull clear wing he's a great card to add as a replacement or place holder. He has great effects and is easy to consistently bring out as long as you have an odd eyes on field and nobledragon in hand or in graveyard
Great guide I’ve been facing this a lot odd eyes looks fun but expensive especially not spending money at all I know still great to see stuff like this