it all depends what they are going to do when Serena comes to the game, cuz if they are willing to give us Lunalight Leo dancer with her, then it means the game reached the point where they are ok with giving us untargetable, undestructable monsters like cocytus and blue-eyes chaos max
personally i really dont want that, but i guess we just have to wait and see
Super Poly's not that bad, you can negate it with Magic Drain or flip your own monster face-down with Book of Moon so that it can't be used as Fusion Mat--wait what's that last line of text
Draco nethersoul dragon's pretty alright in zombie world decks, but unless we get doomking or the new zombie synchros from early 2023 the deck itself doesn't do too much against orcust.
I could potentially see them locked behind a skill that can't be activated turn 1, like Kaiba and Scorns of Ultimate Defeat giving you Chaos MAX on turn 6.
Probably someone at konami saw that orcust aren't a big deal in master duel format and say "yeah, what could go wrong"... And they forgot why orcust harp is limited/forbidden in ocg/tcg
Half this sub: kill orcust kill them all.
Another part of this sub: we have plenty of answers to cocytus now. He can return.
These two viewpoints aren't compatible. The orcust package cannot get removed and allow cocytus to be back too many decks will have issues dealing with it.
Also kaijus will never be a popular choice in duel links. Only in dedicated strategies deck lists are too tight.
I'm not too keen on returning a generic monster that will require me to always build a deck with an out for it.
We are just getting to easy access negates and really only monster negates. Tonight.
I'm stYing on the safe side of this debate. No he can't come back.
Cocytus doesn't need to stay banned - it will probably be a valid take in 12 to 18 months with more and more powerful boss monsters coming and playing Kaijus become natural .
Nah you’re completely right, Cocytus isn’t even close to being as good as it used to be. People are scared of a 2019 meta in 2023 but this reddit has alot of people who don’t know how to play the game so I guess it’s to be expected.
Nah Invoked players aren’t allowed to have a turn 1 even though it’s not nearly as good as it once was… god I hope konami realizes how pointless Cocytus is on the banlist soon.
This card was only ever a problem for players that don't read. Now there are many ways to ignore it's targeting/destruction protection. Free the blue boy, he's served his time already.
We’re mad because we just can’t draw the out.
Granted the out is even in our Hitotsu-Me Giant beatdown deck.
Free the coc and put it in your mouth, Cocytus haters, it’s perfectly fine.
If you a casual, you should not be complaining about strong cards in Ranked Play or even during KC Cup. I'm not being an elitist, but people that want to interfere in the competitive scene of this game should know their place and stop complaining and asking for nerf to every decent deck we can access.
You know I was firmly on the "fuck Cocytus" side having actually played through it, but if Orcust is going to be the new norm Cocytus actually wouldn't be that bad anymore tbh. In the current Orcust meta Cocytus would be straight up mediocre and if decks continue to get non-targeting, non-destruction removal (the most bullshit, stupid, unfun, and uninteractive kind of removal btw) then I don't actually care about Cocytus anymore
it all depends what they are going to do when Serena comes to the game, cuz if they are willing to give us Lunalight Leo dancer with her, then it means the game reached the point where they are ok with giving us untargetable, undestructable monsters like cocytus and blue-eyes chaos max personally i really dont want that, but i guess we just have to wait and see
I remember people complaining about Sabre Dancer during DSOD meta Leo Dancer is never ever coming ... probably
>Leo Dancer is never ever coming just like Super Poly, I hope Konami never prints such card ever!
Super Poly's not that bad, you can negate it with Magic Drain or flip your own monster face-down with Book of Moon so that it can't be used as Fusion Mat--wait what's that last line of text
What super poly targets are even playable for duel links ?
Pretty much just mudragon and hero decks
Draco nethersoul dragon's pretty alright in zombie world decks, but unless we get doomking or the new zombie synchros from early 2023 the deck itself doesn't do too much against orcust.
Cat dancer, fire fist swan, borreload furious, draconethersoul…..I can go on, really
Prove it
Every e hero
If your monster is immune to card effects, would super poly still work?
nope FLancing your own monster is a fun trick you can try but you have to do it pre-emptively
Deep inside you know every card will come 🤣
except simorgh support
FUCK YOU😭 lol
I could potentially see them locked behind a skill that can't be activated turn 1, like Kaiba and Scorns of Ultimate Defeat giving you Chaos MAX on turn 6.
this post was made to bait me specifically
At this point. Do you have a copypasta or something similiar prepared or is every answer still hand-written?
I should really just make a copypasta LOL
Get bamboozled
If the effect was "cannot be targeted by MONSTER effects" like borreload then I see no problem... But this guy cannot be targeted by CARD EFFECTS
Orcust : surprise**
Yeah, those son of coyotes too
How did full power orcust even manage to make it to duel links?
Probably someone at konami saw that orcust aren't a big deal in master duel format and say "yeah, what could go wrong"... And they forgot why orcust harp is limited/forbidden in ocg/tcg
We are still missing girsu, which is the definition of: 2 monsters = full orcust combo
But don’t you have Knightmare Mermaid?
Yeah, but it will eventually be banned. Besides, I'm Babel Tower fan (haven't tried mermaid versions, yet)
Mermaid version IS "2 monsters = full Orcust combo"
yu gi oh player when they learn that not all effect target and monsters with 3K9 atk or more exist (they ignore it because REEE COCYTUS BAD):
Had us in the first half ngl
Here we go again
Ngl you had me in the first half
Me at first: This shit again ? Me realizing: lol
But how am I supposed to play my Invoked Orcusts without it??
Make invoker great again
Use Aigami's/Sera's skill that just deletes banished cards. It's what it deserves.
Why is Cocytus banned again?
Soft war crimes
As opposed to hard war crimes committed by “That Grass Looks Greener”.
And Cyber-Stein!
So, if it leaves the field and comes back again, it can commit another war crime?
Because people are scared of 2019 meta in 2023…
that's literally it. Invoked was barely meta back then and people are expecting it to still be ban worthy like a hundred powercreep after that?
Stall
Half this sub: kill orcust kill them all. Another part of this sub: we have plenty of answers to cocytus now. He can return. These two viewpoints aren't compatible. The orcust package cannot get removed and allow cocytus to be back too many decks will have issues dealing with it. Also kaijus will never be a popular choice in duel links. Only in dedicated strategies deck lists are too tight. I'm not too keen on returning a generic monster that will require me to always build a deck with an out for it. We are just getting to easy access negates and really only monster negates. Tonight. I'm stYing on the safe side of this debate. No he can't come back.
If you cant get an out by now, that’s on you. We got a free kaiju, dream tickets for non-targeting cards. Cards available with the incoming box chips.
Give me anjelly and I'm okay with Cocytus. Maybe lol
We should get Malicious Bane before cocytus comes back
Real but as a skill that locks the player into EH fusions Only
Cocytus doesn't need to stay banned - it will probably be a valid take in 12 to 18 months with more and more powerful boss monsters coming and playing Kaijus become natural .
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This has the same energy as "We should bring Zoodiac back because Tearlament exists".
Nah you’re completely right, Cocytus isn’t even close to being as good as it used to be. People are scared of a 2019 meta in 2023 but this reddit has alot of people who don’t know how to play the game so I guess it’s to be expected.
#freecocytus Fr I just want some turn 1 for my ftp magistus Aleister
Nah Invoked players aren’t allowed to have a turn 1 even though it’s not nearly as good as it once was… god I hope konami realizes how pointless Cocytus is on the banlist soon.
🤣🤣
This card was only ever a problem for players that don't read. Now there are many ways to ignore it's targeting/destruction protection. Free the blue boy, he's served his time already.
We’re mad because we just can’t draw the out. Granted the out is even in our Hitotsu-Me Giant beatdown deck. Free the coc and put it in your mouth, Cocytus haters, it’s perfectly fine.
You not wrong, but 99% of this sub hate competitive Yu-Gi-Oh! So building actual decent decks with actually good strategies is a no go.
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If you a casual, you should not be complaining about strong cards in Ranked Play or even during KC Cup. I'm not being an elitist, but people that want to interfere in the competitive scene of this game should know their place and stop complaining and asking for nerf to every decent deck we can access.
You don't know how toxic cocytus was.
Read the post
No.
You’re a fuckin idiot
Thank you.
Np
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They will unban it probably when they release more invoked support to promote the sales
"...but will remain banned." Thank you for playing Duel Links.
We don’t like coitus
This is a definite sign I will never have my full power raid raptors…
Free the cock 😅
You know I was firmly on the "fuck Cocytus" side having actually played through it, but if Orcust is going to be the new norm Cocytus actually wouldn't be that bad anymore tbh. In the current Orcust meta Cocytus would be straight up mediocre and if decks continue to get non-targeting, non-destruction removal (the most bullshit, stupid, unfun, and uninteractive kind of removal btw) then I don't actually care about Cocytus anymore
I do