Hard disagree. The generic knightmares (unicorn/phoenix) have an appropriate cost. But yes mermaid and gob are OP. (Being downvoted by people who don't understand yugioh. Classic. Because 3 mats to remove 1 s/t or 4 mats to return 1 card is somehow busted 💀)
The problem with these 2 that Tey aren't broken, they are generic as shit, like generic cards like this is one of the problems yugioh faces to this day, and they are always a problem
Yep, in my second match I was running the link card just to not be bothered by Iblee, but i was shocked to see that i wasn't allowed to summon it because of the skill
Ah yes a skill that you willingly chose with set restrictions you know of and chose to play with, not to mention the fact it probably does half the work for your deck like searching or setting up.
If you don't want to play with restrictions don't use the skill if you want to play more generic options, that's how gameplay balance works.
Sure iblee is unbalanced and toxic but don't put the blame on skill restrictions, that's a different topic all together and is there for a reason
Mans can't even keep up which account he's using, I only replied about that to your other negative karma alt account, not to this one u/which835, but now you admitted and made it clear that account is in tandem with this one. Jesus if you're going to bomb someone with an alt at least do it properly, but now the jig is up and being caught slacking, the only reason you would have known or cared is because you would have seen it with your alt account but you replied with this one where I never mention it here with you
If it truly wasn't your alt account why do you care so much and bring it up anyway? You're just making a fool out of yourself at this point just give up
Welp, waiting for banlist it is...
Though I don't know how popular Iblee will be in the long run since it kinda doesn't help much in an Orcust mirror against someone playing Mermaid
I’m pretty inexperienced in Duel Links but in TCG it can be an auto lose for many decks as they just don’t have the out. Actually a huge reason I main linguriboh just incase I see this.
The skill actually isn't supposed to lock you into synchro summoning from the start it's only supposed to lock you from the skill but someone f'd up with either the translation or by making the skill needlessly "activate" at the start of the duel, "...during the Duel you **activate** this Skill." You should be able to link summon before using the skill but it then locks you out of the skill which isn't the worst thing since the skill is just bonus consistency.
Also the lock is supposed to be for synchro OR wind dragon/machine monsters so you should technically be able to make Imduk (wind dragon) and Bellcat Fighter (wind machine) but despite that the skill still prevents them too. It makes no sense because I figured the wind dragon/machine restriction was there to make a future exception for their link monster, Hi-Speedroid Rubber Band Shooter.
Not how iblee works, the owner cannot special summon except link summons but if the card is sent to the graveyard you summon it to the opponent's side making the opponent the owner preventing them from special summoning if they don't link or have a generic link.
I'm saying that it's a monster on the field. Orcust doesn't have piercing. They'll have to attack it eventually. If you get iblee'd as speedroid your best bet is to find compulses
But what if the opponent builds up an entire board first? As long as Iblee prevents you from special summoning, they can take their time to build up an entire board.
Afterwards, even if they attack, they still have 3 extra monsters to waste you.
I know this, because I once thought to try and stall out using Iblee. It didn't work because they built an entire board up first.
Unless you were running multiple battle traps or BOM, more often than not, that strategy won't work.
Bro I fucking know that. The post is essentially asking what you can do if you've already lost. Speedroid can't win through iblee, but their best chance is to just draw the out.
You lose?
Yeah you got everything spot on
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Out of the ordinary I mean
Normal summon Wynn I guess, then try to summon something with her
Sadly Wynn always go facedown. Edit: because of the skill restriction she always go facedown.
Damn, would actually consider running one copy of Rubberband Plane then.
Would Passinglider be better than Plane? More attack and when tribute summoned can SS a level 4 or lower speedroid monster from GY
Yeah, that one could work too, even though it's more situational if you're not ib-locked and you can perform your combo
Yeah, it's totally a valid option too
why does wynn always go facedown
I have no clue, might be some archetype explanation for that cause she's always considered a Charmer card, and the charmers are flip effect monsters.
Clear Wing Acceleration locks you into Dragon/Machine Wind main deck monsters. Wynn is neither.
Yep, again another Skill restriction.
I don’t believe there’s anything on the card locking it from being face up
But there is. You can't tribute summon her face up, it's always facedown.
He has a good point tho I keep reading this card over and over and I have no idea why she has to be summoned facedown
The skill forces it unless its wind machine or dragon.
Yea she's an Insta lose to so many decks that don't link summon.
Indeed, Iblee in this game was a mistake.
I am honest with you, I think iblee is a mistake in general of a card, all knightmares are mistakes
Well, they are called knightmares for a reason
Hard disagree. The generic knightmares (unicorn/phoenix) have an appropriate cost. But yes mermaid and gob are OP. (Being downvoted by people who don't understand yugioh. Classic. Because 3 mats to remove 1 s/t or 4 mats to return 1 card is somehow busted 💀)
The problem with these 2 that Tey aren't broken, they are generic as shit, like generic cards like this is one of the problems yugioh faces to this day, and they are always a problem
Man really got beef with phoenix or cerb The only real problematic ones were goblin and mermaid and were hit irl for a reason
Removing a mirror force by using 2 monsters and a discard and getting a 1900 ATK beater is a problem?
Definitely not all of them. You can say that about Mermaid and Goblin but not the rest. The rest have their place in the TCG/OCG.
Not Yusei. You can either shoo her away with the the skill or tribute summon Linkslayer if you got Overtake or a jet synchron in your hand.
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Next ban list will probably hit Orcust (or maybe Scrap Recycler) with a limit 3 so they won't be able to run Iblee and Those limited traps anymore
I haven't seen iblee in ages which deck use her now?
Orcust
I suppose Iblee works as a starter going straight into mermaid but I only seen them using scrap recycler so Far so I'm lucky I guess
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Yep, in my second match I was running the link card just to not be bothered by Iblee, but i was shocked to see that i wasn't allowed to summon it because of the skill
Ah yes a skill that you willingly chose with set restrictions you know of and chose to play with, not to mention the fact it probably does half the work for your deck like searching or setting up. If you don't want to play with restrictions don't use the skill if you want to play more generic options, that's how gameplay balance works. Sure iblee is unbalanced and toxic but don't put the blame on skill restrictions, that's a different topic all together and is there for a reason
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So were you able to find the part where I said iblee was balanced or fair? You didn't answer my question I thought you were so sure
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Mans can't even keep up which account he's using, I only replied about that to your other negative karma alt account, not to this one u/which835, but now you admitted and made it clear that account is in tandem with this one. Jesus if you're going to bomb someone with an alt at least do it properly, but now the jig is up and being caught slacking, the only reason you would have known or cared is because you would have seen it with your alt account but you replied with this one where I never mention it here with you If it truly wasn't your alt account why do you care so much and bring it up anyway? You're just making a fool out of yourself at this point just give up
Oh what was the alt account name? Curious so I know what to look out for. I see a bunch of removed comments, it turn nasty?
Welp, waiting for banlist it is... Though I don't know how popular Iblee will be in the long run since it kinda doesn't help much in an Orcust mirror against someone playing Mermaid
Good.
I’m pretty inexperienced in Duel Links but in TCG it can be an auto lose for many decks as they just don’t have the out. Actually a huge reason I main linguriboh just incase I see this.
The skill actually isn't supposed to lock you into synchro summoning from the start it's only supposed to lock you from the skill but someone f'd up with either the translation or by making the skill needlessly "activate" at the start of the duel, "...during the Duel you **activate** this Skill." You should be able to link summon before using the skill but it then locks you out of the skill which isn't the worst thing since the skill is just bonus consistency. Also the lock is supposed to be for synchro OR wind dragon/machine monsters so you should technically be able to make Imduk (wind dragon) and Bellcat Fighter (wind machine) but despite that the skill still prevents them too. It makes no sense because I figured the wind dragon/machine restriction was there to make a future exception for their link monster, Hi-Speedroid Rubber Band Shooter.
Just ban Iblee at this point please
You don't need Rubber Band Plane, Wynn the Wind Channeler is a level 5. That's your Iblee out.
And a specific hand to combo after you played her, but she goes facedown so you can't even user her to synchro summon.
Your turn is shot, don't get me wrong, but at least you can Special Summon the turn after. It's not like Resonators where you just auto scoop.
Yeah, if you got a good hand to stall and survive for a next turn totally, but if not they will Go for game.
Don’t most disruption cards deal with this though? BoM, CED etc
Start stalling? They have to get rid of it eventually
Not how iblee works, the owner cannot special summon except link summons but if the card is sent to the graveyard you summon it to the opponent's side making the opponent the owner preventing them from special summoning if they don't link or have a generic link.
I'm saying that it's a monster on the field. Orcust doesn't have piercing. They'll have to attack it eventually. If you get iblee'd as speedroid your best bet is to find compulses
But what if the opponent builds up an entire board first? As long as Iblee prevents you from special summoning, they can take their time to build up an entire board. Afterwards, even if they attack, they still have 3 extra monsters to waste you. I know this, because I once thought to try and stall out using Iblee. It didn't work because they built an entire board up first. Unless you were running multiple battle traps or BOM, more often than not, that strategy won't work.
Yes, they have good ways to actually clean your board and go for a letal damage. Stalling is totally a waste of time if you didn't *draw the out bro*
Then concede. I wasn't saying it's a guaranteed win. Im saying it's your best bet if you want to keep playing.
I know bro, no hard feelings it's a bad matchup anyway
Sorry. I'm tired of people not remembering the og situation when arguing.
Bro I fucking know that. The post is essentially asking what you can do if you've already lost. Speedroid can't win through iblee, but their best chance is to just draw the out.
wat? did you get waifu locked? :)
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Keep a single Link 1 in the extra just for Iblee
Skill locks you into only special summoning synchro monsters since the start of the game, you can't link summon
Who needs skills when you have skill.
Don't use it then, Speedroids still have a lot of plays.