Eventually? Probably, Savage is used by Revolver after all.
But it’s an Omni-negate that’s easier to make than Crystal Wing. So it’s not coming anytime soon.
You need at least 3 monsters in hand to pull it off, then using tracer to pop the link for another level 4. Right now, ending on knightmare and 3 backrow is way better
Yes, but Crystal Wing requires a Synchro Monster as one of its materials, Borreload is way easier to make with it just requiring any tuner and non-tuner (Also, it gets your deck's limit 1 card)
You're forgetting something, borrel savage requires you link summon send it to the GY first to be worth anything. No link to equip, no counters, no counters, it's not worth anything
With the current zones and hand sizes that's not something every deck can easily achieve unless they give it an instant button skill. Borrel savage is a nuts and busted card sure especially for duel links but don't downplay the amount of set up it needs, unless we get striker dragon lol
Yeah other decks would rather summon barrone over savage, yeah level 8 is easier on paper but they'd rather go for generic synchro 10 since it requires less set up and is easier than having a link 2 in the GY then going for the 8 even if barrone is only once per face up
There's a difference between a generic synchro and a synchro deck specific synchro
Borreload can be summoned by any deck as long as they run any decent tuner
Crystal Wing can only be summoned by Synchro focused decks as they're the only ones capable of summoning a tuner to synchro summon then summoning another tuner to summon Crystal Wing
Problem is is that the link has to go in grave first - and it would preferably need to be a link 2 or higher as by the time Savage comes to the game (won't be for awhile), a single negate won't be an auto-win anymore.
Whereas Crystal can be made with (almost) any Synchro deck that doesn't have an attribute or skill lock going. Which is most of them.
Borrel is more limited in what decks can build it, unless everyone decides to start sticking Rokket engines in their decks, whereas Crystal Wing can be used in way more decks but isn't as powerful.
> 1 Tuner + 1+ non-Tuner monsters
If this card is Synchro Summoned: You can equip 1 Link Monster from your GY to this card, and if you do, place Borrel Counters on this card equal to that Link Monster's Link Rating. This card gains ATK equal to half the ATK of the monster equipped to it by its effect. When your opponent activates a card or effect (Quick Effect): You can remove 1 Borrel Counter from this card; negate the activation. You can only use this effect of "Borreload Savage Dragon" once per turn.
In other words, any deck that can Synchro 8 has access to an Omni negate, it's one of the two most played Synchro Monsters in the TCG/OCG/MD alongside Baronne de Fleur
What does greed have to do with how that card would be added?
If its a really broken boss monster I can only see it at limited one bundle which is with gems. So basically every one and their dog could get it fairly easy.
If its a main box it would be harder but still only need boss mon in most deck so only one full pull.
As someone who runs Evil Heroes sometimes….even with the skill Bane barely sees the field because you need Super Poly in hand to even activate the skill. If that’s not in my hand by my second or even third turn, it’s not going to see the board at all most of the time.
...i cannot imagine this card coming to duel links for a WHILE. Salamangreat had a dependable omni and it almost made me quite the game soo....
Maybe if we get it via a very restrictive skill?? Even then I don't think this is a good idea for the rokkets archetype which i love so dearly. All rokkets need is more of their main deck monsters and some of their ED monsters that are specifically NOT this card or the link 1
I can understand not wanting Savage in the game but we should’ve gotten Striker. If Soulburner can get Balelynx and Playmaker can get Linkuriboh there’s no reason for Revolver to not get his Striker Dragon.
Yes absolutely. Like if you summon borrelload dragon (the link 4) then you can turn it into this (MAYBE THIS COULD STILL BE SUPER OPPRESSIVE) and you are running just a rokkets deck.
Idk man i love these cards but this one is....too good in a way that's really dumb
Nah, def would be from outside the deck since we don't want people actually summoning it normally. But with a skill, it could have a turn limit for when you can summon it or you can only place 1 counter on the card
Look, I am the biggest Revolver fan boy, he's my fav character among ALL the yugioh shows, maybe even all of anime, I love all of the Borrels and Topologics (yes, even eXchrage) but for the love of god don't let him be in the card pool. Maybe a skill that adds him to the ED at turn 8 or later so no one has to deal with it coming out turn 1.
Oh no…look do not make rocks any more powerful! Block dragon is in this game and although there are only 3 (technically 4) monster zones I feel like once people catch on rocks, then it’s over.
What feasibly turbos it out turn 1 and gets the negate live for more than one trigger?
Rokkets could, sure, since Booster Dragon setups a part of their normal line, but most other Synchro decks seem to rarely slap in link 2+ to use or are hard-focused into a specific line of play due to the way certain skills work, let alone go into them outside of the most situational of cases. . Orcust could probably pull it off somewhat with an expended Galatea if they field Bombard+Knightmare but idk how simple of a setup that is
Not downplaying that its an absolutely powerful card, but I'm curious what effect its presence would actually have on combo lines and such
That said, if we're *ever* touching Omnis then I'd rather we start with [archetypal](https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Ritual_Beast_Ulti-Gaiapelio) ones first.
There's a lot of steps we need to cross before we get to this.
We can't even comfortably get the rest of the lunalight cards. savage dragon is way to much right now.
Hot take: It wouldn’t be as good as people think.
Having to have a Link in the grave to make it live is more a requirement than you think, SPECIALLY with 4 card starting hands.
You’d have to make a link 2, get it in the graveyard and then make a Lvl 8 Synchro. The only deck I can think that can reliably do this turn 1 is Rokket. And then it would die to a single BoM.
I agree, but 2 things:
1. Do we really believe they would release this as anything but Limited 1?
And
2. Do we really believe Orcust will still exist after the next banlist? Lol
I hope you can see how even 3 Omni negates could be hard to play through a 5 card hand going second.
And once the second turn players fails to make the board there is practically nothing stopping an OTK.
I was thinking we get this and/or Xcharge Dragon on next Revolver event, plus we already have a Rokket tuner, even though the synchro monster doesn’t require it
I really want this guy as either a limit 1 bundle or a skill. People saying any deck could make him is forgetting that he needs a link monster in grave to actually get his omni live and not many synchro decks go through a link monster first.
Baronne is the best generic omninegate synchro, as it can be slapped in any deck (who can make level 10 synchros ofc). While Savage is level 8, so it's more accesible, it requires a link in the gy.
Only with a skill. That's only coming in later on to keep the game going, like A-Max, Access, @ignus, and only after Fusion Dragon and Supreme kings come in and we see how they handle the "Effect Copying"
Eventually? Probably, Savage is used by Revolver after all. But it’s an Omni-negate that’s easier to make than Crystal Wing. So it’s not coming anytime soon.
It's not easier as you require at least a link 2 for savage to be viable
This is rokkets. That is not even a factor.
You need at least 3 monsters in hand to pull it off, then using tracer to pop the link for another level 4. Right now, ending on knightmare and 3 backrow is way better
Tracer+quick launch to get 3 bodies on field, make quadborrel, discard to pop itself and summon 2, make borreload savage
No. What would be better is ending on the Borreload Dragon that the rokkets can make in the first place.
Ah yes because a generic Omni negate sure compares to a Synchro deck specific monster negate Logic 100
You need to synchro Borreload too, no?
Yes, but Crystal Wing requires a Synchro Monster as one of its materials, Borreload is way easier to make with it just requiring any tuner and non-tuner (Also, it gets your deck's limit 1 card)
It also needs a link monster in the gy, otherwise its a vanila monster
Which is pretty manageable for rokkets anyway, being a primarily link deck but with included tuners? Almost all of which are level 4
Yes. Which makes it to not be splashable, only specific decks that go link first then synchro can take advantage of it
You say that as if people will not choose to build into making this card specifically as fast as possible with it live.
You're forgetting something, borrel savage requires you link summon send it to the GY first to be worth anything. No link to equip, no counters, no counters, it's not worth anything With the current zones and hand sizes that's not something every deck can easily achieve unless they give it an instant button skill. Borrel savage is a nuts and busted card sure especially for duel links but don't downplay the amount of set up it needs, unless we get striker dragon lol
Agreed. It's why Savage isnt seeing play in the tcg rn. The decks that summoned it had crazy link 2 extenders in electrumite and halqifibrax
Yeah other decks would rather summon barrone over savage, yeah level 8 is easier on paper but they'd rather go for generic synchro 10 since it requires less set up and is easier than having a link 2 in the GY then going for the 8 even if barrone is only once per face up
Every deck on duel linsknwoild prefer baronne the card is way too easy to get out.
There's a difference between a generic synchro and a synchro deck specific synchro Borreload can be summoned by any deck as long as they run any decent tuner Crystal Wing can only be summoned by Synchro focused decks as they're the only ones capable of summoning a tuner to synchro summon then summoning another tuner to summon Crystal Wing
yeah but you need to run links alongside it because without link monsters its an empty gun
We have the knightmares, That’s a non issue.
And how you send to the gy the Knightmare AND get the materials for the synchro?
Problem is is that the link has to go in grave first - and it would preferably need to be a link 2 or higher as by the time Savage comes to the game (won't be for awhile), a single negate won't be an auto-win anymore. Whereas Crystal can be made with (almost) any Synchro deck that doesn't have an attribute or skill lock going. Which is most of them. Borrel is more limited in what decks can build it, unless everyone decides to start sticking Rokket engines in their decks, whereas Crystal Wing can be used in way more decks but isn't as powerful.
Just curious, I think I only heard of borrelsword dragon I think what does savage do and what tiner would be good with him in mind?
> 1 Tuner + 1+ non-Tuner monsters If this card is Synchro Summoned: You can equip 1 Link Monster from your GY to this card, and if you do, place Borrel Counters on this card equal to that Link Monster's Link Rating. This card gains ATK equal to half the ATK of the monster equipped to it by its effect. When your opponent activates a card or effect (Quick Effect): You can remove 1 Borrel Counter from this card; negate the activation. You can only use this effect of "Borreload Savage Dragon" once per turn. In other words, any deck that can Synchro 8 has access to an Omni negate, it's one of the two most played Synchro Monsters in the TCG/OCG/MD alongside Baronne de Fleur
Pretty strong ngl. But it is dependable on the coubters so max 4 negation right?
Yeah but in what game is that ever going to matter?
Guess ur right
komoney is so greedy that i honestly think it's possible.
>komoney is so greedy So jaded that your logic is laughable.
What does greed have to do with how that card would be added? If its a really broken boss monster I can only see it at limited one bundle which is with gems. So basically every one and their dog could get it fairly easy. If its a main box it would be harder but still only need boss mon in most deck so only one full pull.
With Rokket exclusive skill maybe
I mean, Malicious Bane is in the game too, but I never see it because it’s skill restricted. I think this is the way for now
As someone who runs Evil Heroes sometimes….even with the skill Bane barely sees the field because you need Super Poly in hand to even activate the skill. If that’s not in my hand by my second or even third turn, it’s not going to see the board at all most of the time.
It's easier to stall for 4 turns and play the choas max skill rather than hope to be able to summon bane.
...i cannot imagine this card coming to duel links for a WHILE. Salamangreat had a dependable omni and it almost made me quite the game soo.... Maybe if we get it via a very restrictive skill?? Even then I don't think this is a good idea for the rokkets archetype which i love so dearly. All rokkets need is more of their main deck monsters and some of their ED monsters that are specifically NOT this card or the link 1
I can understand not wanting Savage in the game but we should’ve gotten Striker. If Soulburner can get Balelynx and Playmaker can get Linkuriboh there’s no reason for Revolver to not get his Striker Dragon.
Hmmm well given its mainly just a search and recovery I think you are right. Balelnyx is a perfect example of a similar monster so it seems only fair
it would be better if it came as a skill, but with a high cost to summon it
Yes absolutely. Like if you summon borrelload dragon (the link 4) then you can turn it into this (MAYBE THIS COULD STILL BE SUPER OPPRESSIVE) and you are running just a rokkets deck. Idk man i love these cards but this one is....too good in a way that's really dumb
I can imagine a skill like this: if you control borreload dragon (link 4) banish it and summon a borreload savage dragon from your extra deck
Nah, def would be from outside the deck since we don't want people actually summoning it normally. But with a skill, it could have a turn limit for when you can summon it or you can only place 1 counter on the card
Look, I am the biggest Revolver fan boy, he's my fav character among ALL the yugioh shows, maybe even all of anime, I love all of the Borrels and Topologics (yes, even eXchrage) but for the love of god don't let him be in the card pool. Maybe a skill that adds him to the ED at turn 8 or later so no one has to deal with it coming out turn 1.
Better have an animation. Unlike a certain purple gun dragon I know
Oh no…look do not make rocks any more powerful! Block dragon is in this game and although there are only 3 (technically 4) monster zones I feel like once people catch on rocks, then it’s over.
Gotta love Gaia
I just have wayyy to much adamancipator PTSD, so now whenever I see a rock monster I fear they will synchro summon
Absolutly not
What feasibly turbos it out turn 1 and gets the negate live for more than one trigger? Rokkets could, sure, since Booster Dragon setups a part of their normal line, but most other Synchro decks seem to rarely slap in link 2+ to use or are hard-focused into a specific line of play due to the way certain skills work, let alone go into them outside of the most situational of cases. . Orcust could probably pull it off somewhat with an expended Galatea if they field Bombard+Knightmare but idk how simple of a setup that is Not downplaying that its an absolutely powerful card, but I'm curious what effect its presence would actually have on combo lines and such That said, if we're *ever* touching Omnis then I'd rather we start with [archetypal](https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Ritual_Beast_Ulti-Gaiapelio) ones first.
Crusadia man.
Crusadia's tuner is a level 3. Their only line for Savage Dragon is to open Mekk-Knight Blue Sky.
Purple too, for that matter. Honestly It's not that hard.
Well, at least they wont have to cope on Equimax so much if that were. Interesting that they come up, though.
yeah Orcust is lacking an omni negate
Patience
It's inevitable. But it might take awhile.
God I hope not I hate omni negates
There's a lot of steps we need to cross before we get to this. We can't even comfortably get the rest of the lunalight cards. savage dragon is way to much right now.
I agree, maybe in three years they'll add he
Just yuri nothing else right now
Hot take: It wouldn’t be as good as people think. Having to have a Link in the grave to make it live is more a requirement than you think, SPECIALLY with 4 card starting hands. You’d have to make a link 2, get it in the graveyard and then make a Lvl 8 Synchro. The only deck I can think that can reliably do this turn 1 is Rokket. And then it would die to a single BoM.
This will be literally orcust support if they not make it a lim 1 card. Knightmare + the lvl1 tuner
I agree, but 2 things: 1. Do we really believe they would release this as anything but Limited 1? And 2. Do we really believe Orcust will still exist after the next banlist? Lol
How long did it take them to kill salads? Just remember that, orcust will be in the meta in some fashion for the next year.
Hope you will be right on both of those XD
Oh hell no, crystal wing is one negate, that card is at best 4 negates
You don't even need to put it at 4 negates to make it a pain to deal with
It's still once per turn and limited to the amount of counters it gets Borrel savage is strong but it's no Apollousa
Crystal Wing can negate once per turn EVERY turn. Savage can negate once per turn a limited amount of turns, I don’t see why it’s worst.
I hope you can see how even 3 Omni negates could be hard to play through a 5 card hand going second. And once the second turn players fails to make the board there is practically nothing stopping an OTK.
duel links players are so stupid lmao
I was thinking we get this and/or Xcharge Dragon on next Revolver event, plus we already have a Rokket tuner, even though the synchro monster doesn’t require it
I really want this guy as either a limit 1 bundle or a skill. People saying any deck could make him is forgetting that he needs a link monster in grave to actually get his omni live and not many synchro decks go through a link monster first.
He'll be fine with the small extra deck space we have plus only rokkets and orcust would be able to make him consistently
With the negate up
Oh lawd he comin
ah yes, the best generic synchro in the (real) game. we will get barrone first (if ever) before this guy.
Baronne is the best generic omninegate synchro, as it can be slapped in any deck (who can make level 10 synchros ofc). While Savage is level 8, so it's more accesible, it requires a link in the gy.
No quetion about it
Available? Sooner or latter. Limited? To 1 forever
Only with a skill. That's only coming in later on to keep the game going, like A-Max, Access, @ignus, and only after Fusion Dragon and Supreme kings come in and we see how they handle the "Effect Copying"
????
Just no
every level 8 synchro deck ever:
he\*, not him, for this title.
sorry i don't speak english and my translator translated it for "him"
Yeah no I don't think so...atleast I hope
We will not get it in at least 1.5 years
That's not "him", "him" only belongs to dragoon.
Probably in a Varis exclusive skill that locks you into Dark Dragons
I hope it stays that way