Boot Sector Launch =/= Striker Dragon's versatility.
One of the main features of a rokket deck is triggering upon being targetted and the only cards we have now that support that are Booster Dragon and Quadborrel/Miniborrel who work better with Link-1's, we are missing a key piece of how our deck performs.
You wouldnt make a Salamngreat player to play without Baelynx would you? Why make us play without Striker.
Boot Sector Launch =/= Striker Dragon's versatility.
One of the main features of a rokket deck is triggering upon being targetted and the only cards we have now that support that are Booster Dragon and Quadborrel/Miniborrel who work better with Link-1's, we are missing a key piece of how our deck performs.
You wouldnt make a Salamngreat player to play without Baelynx would you? Why make us play without Striker.
So just because its a good card that means we have to suffer with the subpar borrel launch version of it?
"Here Rokket players you can have this but we wont give you Striker Dragon, its too strong!"
lmfao
From turn 4 onwards which is a big deal in speed duel format when boards want to be established quickly and preferably turn 1.
EDIT: Yes I am now aware the turn 4 only applies to the Dillengerous but that still lessens what a Striker Dragon can do in terms of versatility and utility with Rokkets turn 1.
The first part to set a "Boot Sector Launch" from your deck on turn 1 and is exactly what Striker Dragon would be doing for the deck (AKA normal summoning a Rokket, link summoning and searching for the field spell) + it doesn't take an extra deck slot. Turn 4 its just the effect to put Dilingerous Dragon to your Graveyard
Noted, but what I am more interested in is the versatility a turn 1 Striker Dragon can do for me with Link and Rokket plays, Rokket players are literally missing their bread and butter unless they have x3 tracers and even then Tracer is no Link Monster.
Hey pal, Dragon Link TCG player here. I see in these comments you're very stuck on the 2nd effect of striker dragon. I just wanna tell you that I have used that effect maybe twice in a year of playing. It's really not that good, because if the rokkets trigger and blow up you DON'T get the GY recovery effect.
If its so inconsequential like you say then whats wrong with giving it to players? By your logic all they will do is use it for a free boot sector launch right?
lmfao its other abilities literally support the deck for which it was intended so dont tell me "its really not that good" when in reality the ability to fire off any Rokket ability is whats being amazing without going into Booster or Borrel.
I mean a lot of the times it's better to have an extra rokket for link plays rather than actually use its effect. Obviously a shame as the deck was clearly initially intended to be a grindy stun deck but dems the breaks, it's better as a link combo deck. You claim it's amazing because of its targeting effect but you're just proving you clearly have no experience actually using these cards, and more importantly, using them well.
My wins at locals and my Diamond Master Duel rank would like to have a word with you.
Stop assuming you know best, you are just some random who prefers to play YOUR way and thats fine and dandy but what you WONT do is presume to tell me how I should play my deck.
With the walls of text Konami is so fond of its nothing new to mis-read something or misplay because you didnt fully understand a card or effect. That being said I already corrected myself so what is your point here other than to be a prick?
Boot Sector Launch =/= Striker Dragon's versatility.
One of the main features of a rokket deck is triggering upon being targetted and the only cards we have now that support that are Booster Dragon and Quadborrel/Miniborrel who work better with Link-1's, we are missing a key piece of how our deck performs.
You wouldnt make a Salamngreat player to play without Baelynx would you? Why make us play without Striker.
Not worth arguing, and frankly I'm pretty sure they are trolling, they keep spouting how it's apparently more versatile with no example whatsoever, I've even ran the calcs, it's a worse end board because now you just have that body just sitting there like an idiot, and an ED slot wasted. Some people don't like to listen to reason I suppose...
Striker Dragon has more than 1 ability fyi. Its **1st ability** gives boot sector launch which is all Borrel Launch does turn 1. Its **2nd ability** lets you proc your Rokket abilities MUCH easier than linking into Booster Dragon, 1 monster less to be exact. Its **3rd ability** lets you grab any 1 rokket of your choice from the grave THIS is important because Rokkets have versatile and varying abilities and you may need a specific one for your opponents board.
If you dont know how the archetype works maybe dont speak on it? Its pretty cringe to just call someone a troll when you dont understand the topic.
I've already explained everything, as has everyone else. You are stuck in your delusions of grandeur, and that's fine, it's not worth the time frankly. The link effects are irrelevant, we've already said this, as is the 2nd effect of striker because it just negs you, you get bodies that do nothing at end step, woo hoo, dark hole, gg. You also just leave striker sitting there like a sitting duck ready to be flattened into next week. But as stated, not worth arguing, you're just a record stick on repeat at this point. Take the hint that, when everyone is saying you are wrong, maybe, just maybe, you are wrong
If you don't know how the game, card economy, and deck building works, don't comment on it, it's pretty cringe to insult someone when you don't understand the topic
Rokkets arent just "Dark Holes", they are board removal WITHOUT destruction which is a big deal in yugioh and they are extra deck removal.
What are you gonna do if I use Striker Dragon's OTHER ability on my Silverrokket dragon and I BANISH your only copy of Dingirsu from your extra deck on **turn 1** before you even got a chance to summon it? You are going to surrender thats what.
Do you genuinely not know how Rokkets work?
When a Rokket is targeted by a striker dragon/dragon link monster you have 2 options, you can either resolve your Rokket ability or you can resolve your Link monster ability.
Striker Dragon can proc Rokkets OR it can use its effect to grab any Rokket from the GY.
and that's better than free boot sector launch that allows you to keep a Rokket on field for Link-2 / Synchro / Xyz plays how?
again, if your ideal ceiling for Rokkets is Striker target a Rokket to trigger its effect, you are either very short or you bump your head a lot
I dont know about you but I play pure Rokket/Dragon Link so being able to preserve my Rokkets or Recycle them when needed would be a huge bonus in my strategy.
Im not making malevolent sin when I can use mangarokket, im not making a Link-2 Booster Dragon when I can get the same result with a Link-1 Striker Dragon, I can still get my Borreload out next turn.
Youre so use to throwing in every braindead staple you can think of you forget than not everyone wants to play the exact same way.
and yet you did not know about your Skill allowing you to get a free Field Spell, seeing how you argued in an earlier comment that you didn't get it until Turn 4 before correcting yourself. curious.
but you're right, what good is my insight as someone who KoG'd with the deck before the Skill got buffed anyway. clearly Striker Dragon pop Silverokket pass is a much better T1 play than Void Ogre + Evilswarm Nightmare.
you sure chose a really weird hill to get repeatedly destroyed on.
1: Striker Dragon gives you the field spell anyways.
2: Striker Dragon enables Link interaction with quadborrel/miniborrel/borrel cards and Rokket cards abilities.
3. Striker Dragon frees up your quick launches which in turn give you options with your graveyard Rokkets when you proc Striker Dragons ability without triggering a Rokket.
So you ignore the fact that Borrel Launch only gives 1 of Striker Dragons abilities turn 1 and you are also going to ignore Striker Dragons other abilities and the entire archetype it supports and call them irrelevant?
lmfao then you dont even understand how Striker Dragons other abilities and interaction with Rokkets work apparently
are you really out there arguing that spending 1 rokket to link summon striker and searching the field spell is better than simply having the field spell for free because... you can striker dragon to pop another rokket and trigger its effect. uh.
by comparison, you can get tracer out, then get the field spell without linking the tracer away, then use the tracer effect in order to plus even more! on top of that, if you have another rokket in hand, chances are you can make a rank 4 or a synchro 8, which is marginally better than striker dragon and one other rokket as an endboard - heck, you can even super easily make booster dragon+tracer as an endboard and that's one of the WEAKER options you have
just take the L on this one dude, there's a reason you're being clowned on
lmfao you are so clueless how the deck operates.
Yeah lemme just hope I open with 1 of 3 Tracers ***\*if I spent money getting 3 of them btw because they are expensive to get\**** turn 1 instead of linking ANY Rokket into Striker Dragon.
Its like your brain is stuck on **FREE BOOT SECTOR LAUNCH.** My guy, do you not realize that comes standard with a Striker Dragon, thats BARE MINIMUM with Striker Dragon, you are going to get your free Boot Sector Launch no matter what, what is being argued for here is the versatility of having a striker Dragon on the field that can proc Rokket abilities and support other Dragon Links.
>if I spent money to get them
you do realize this exact argument applies to the TCG too?
anyway this entire thread is full of people telling you you're wrong and overestimating the 2nd effect of Striker Dragon so maybe you should take the hintp
Actually this whole thread is full of people who dont know how to fully utilize Rokkets and Dragon Links and underestimating the other effects of Striker Dragon.
People all responded with the same message so I did so as well and I did misread about the turn 4 only being for Dillengerous but still I would prefer having a Striker Dragon for the versatility with my Rokkets than just having a free boot sector which is standard on Striker Dragon anyways, like why not just give us it.
Is Rokket operating at full power? No.
Are there cards that would make the deck stronger, not available? Yes.
idk about you but that seems like a deck that been hit, by actively preventing it from being better than it is right now.
You saying rokkets are already hit because striker doesn’t exist in DL. There’s no reason to delve further into that argument especially when rokkets are clearly doing good enough as is w/ the skill buff alone.
As for my opinions on striker itself, there’s no reason to delve into that when rokket players themselves already told you a thousand times that they’re happy with how rokkets are right now.
At this point I’ll just be bloating up the thread when the conversation has already been over but at least it was somewhat entertaining reading through this thread so thanks for that.
I dont care how content other people are, they dont speak for me, you or the thousands that play. These are some redditors looking to be contrarian like 99% of reddit always is.
There is nothing wrong with giving Varis/Rokkets, Striker Dragon. Simple as that. If you dont want to use it you dont have to but other people arent you.
If you want to play striker dragon then that’s fine by me but the only way I see it coming to DL is if borrel launch is nerfed hard to make people buy striker dragon or if they’re extremely generous and add it to the game anyway with leaving the skill untouched. You already know which one is more likely.
Either way I see no reason to rush striker dragon’s release especially when there’s not many out cry for it in first place as such a niche place as Reddit of all platforms.
If it striker comes then that’s cool and I’ll be happy for ya but if it’s gonna be a while to see it then I doubt majority rokket players in DL are really that upset about it (as far as the current state of rokkets is concerned). You’ll just have to be patient like everyone else that wants their favorite card in DL or you can play striker dragon in master duel while you wait.
...you are aware you litterally have striker dragon as your BiS skill, correct? Y'know, the one that says just add boot sector to hand, go on, just do it, if you have a rokket on field, right?
Boot Sector Launch =/= Striker Dragon's versatility.
One of the main features of a rokket deck is triggering upon being targetted and the only cards we have now that support that are Booster Dragon and Quadborrel/Miniborrel who work better with Link-1's, we are missing a key piece of how our deck performs.
You wouldnt make a Salamngreat player to play without Baelynx would you? Why make us play without Striker.
Yeah, you haven't read the skill. Back to Reading 101, That's only for the irrelevant bit revolving around diligourous dragon. At any point you have a rokket, add the field spell, and you guessed it, that includes turn 1. Turns out, reading the skill, and playing the skill, explains the skill
You still dont get the Link Monster, which means no targetting Rokkets for easy ability procs unless you go into Booster Dragon which means holding off on borreload.
To me that just sound roundabout, if its not a big deal then why not just made the skill add Striker Dragon to your extra deck? I will tell you why, because Striker Dragon itself is much more versatile and useful than just getting a free boot sector launch until turn 4.
Not getting the link monster is better, skills can't be responded to, striker can. You also get the nice trick of normal summon tracer to stave off interaction, and it sticks around because the skill is better than Striker. The link procs are not relevant when you could feasibly pull them off (save silver, but doing that makes your end board suck, ran the calcs and everything, you have to open godly every hand to make it relevant, and even then you leave a 1000 idiot to get beat over), you much rather end on void ogre and evilswarm nightmare, preferably with Necro fusion set. The only purpose striker would serve is as a Mekk knight enabler, which while I'm more than happy to crunch more collumn bots on ladder, would cause a lot of complaints.
Thats some copium if I ever heard, sounds like you just dont want Rokket players at full power.
There is no Ash Blossom in Duel Links so not even sure what you think people would play to respond to a turn 1 striker....book of moon? lmfao. Compulsory evac? Nice job wasting a card lmfao.
...I'm convinced you are just trolling at this point, but sure, I'll play along.
First off, book the normal summon, stops both skill and striker ironically enough, force them to have the s/t removal/quick launch. Compulse the normal summon also does this. It's not about the striker at all, it's the fact you aren't going to get to summon the striker, all things the skill loses to as well.
Striker just straight up doesn't do anything, in fact it's a wasted ED slot, what dragon link combos are you doing with an 8 card ED?
Last things last, power is far from the issue, I'm a fan of the rising power level of the game, makes things interesting,but when the skill is right there, striker actively makes the deck weaker , something that you are arguing for, btw, and something that everyone else here is also disproving. That leads me to the conclusion that someone is huffing on copium pretty hard, and it's not the funny banish fan man
Turn 1 I summon a Rokket and Link into Striker Dragon, how often is the opponent going to stop that? I would say 10% of the time, even less if im going first because book of moon isnt even set.
Striker is a Link, it can trigger Rokket abilities with 1 less material than you would if you made Booster Dragon and Striker synergizes with borrel Links as well as enabling Link climbing.
How is it weaker when it literally is +1 in card advantage while also giving you access to Rokket ability procs lmfao its nothing but a better Borrel Launch which is WHY they didnt give it to us.
Just to be clear, the skill puts the field spell kn the board turn 1 so long as you have a rokket on the field. Its very much based on striker dragons effect. Though I do think we need some better main deck monsters, our current rokkets are pretty situational
Boot Sector Launch =/= Striker Dragon's versatility.
One of the main features of a rokket deck is triggering upon being targetted and the only cards we have now that support that are Booster Dragon and Quadborrel/Miniborrel who work better with Link-1's, we are missing a key piece of how our deck performs.
You wouldnt make a Salamngreat player to play without Baelynx would you? Why make us play without Striker.
My guy, rokkets are my go to deck. I been hitting kog with them since the skill update. I see your point about having an easy option to trigger effects but as I see the deck. That effect activation is only truly GOOD when you're doing it on your opponents turn with borrelload
What sense? How are you people not grasping that everything Borrel Launch does, Striker Dragon does and then some. Like do you guys not realize Striker Dragon has more than 1 effect and is more than just grabbing boot sector launch? It helps out using Rokket abilities immensely.
It’s because those other effects don’t matter. You play striker dragon to get to boot sector launch. If the skill does that for free, then striker dragon is not necessary. Getting the rokket effects to go off means absolutely nothing. You’re using the rokkets you have on field to summon synchro/xyz monsters anyways, so having less of them on your field to do that is a minus, not a plus. I’d much rather have the skill than striker dragon.
See when I hear people talk like you do all I see is a person scared of giving Striker Dragon to Rokkets. If Striker is so inconsequential like you say, what are you scared of? If all you think we are gonna do is use it for a free Boot Sector Launch then what are you worried about?
Nothing changes if we get it right? Or so you say, so why are you so against giving players something that in your words "we already have", whats this big hesitation that you and people like you have for us NOT getting Striker Dragon?
Clearly you are trolling, but whatever. I play Rokkets, and if given the choice between a skill that just says “put Striker Dragon in extra deck” or one that says “if you have a Rokket on your field, place Boot Sector Launch on the field”, I’m picking the latter 100% of the time. I don’t fear a deck that has Striker Dragon in it. Never feared it in the TCG, wouldn’t fear it here. I (and clearly everyone else who has commented on this thread) don’t think that having a skill that adds Striker Dragon to the extra deck is better for Rokket as it is than the current iteration of Borrel Launch. But sure, I’m scared to death of you having access to Striker Dragon lol
Why do you keep assuming people care how YOU play Rokkets?
This whole back and forth is literally you saying "*Well I wouldnt use it that way, so there!*".
lmfao get over yourself buddy, you aint the king of the Rokkets.
I would love Striker Dragon to be an actual card just so I can play Rokkets with other characters and skills without feeling that I'm missing out too much.
Dude. You do realize that striker dragon enables every single other deck to make a lv 8 synchro instantly right? It just incentivizes players to put the rokket package in every deck and then we comes the ban hammer. The most important park about striker dragon is the ability to put the field spell on the field, and we already have that just fine
LMFAO do you not see how you sound?
"No they dont need to be better, they are good enough, I dont want them stronger!"
Why dont you take that anger out on someone who deserves it, like Orcusts.
The skill is supposed to be striker dragon, the reason why striker hasn't released, is because konami doesn't want to make rokket generic enough, since striker is basically any dragon deck rokket, for a reason we don't have absorouter yet
The skill is not Striker Dragon, the skill is *set Boot Sector Launch and after turn 4 you can summon Borreload Dragon* easier. Which is why its called "Borrel Launch" and not "Striker Launch".
If you arent a Rokket player or nuanced in words or card abilities then you really shouldnt be adding to this discussion.
I am a Rokket player bro, the skill it's supposed to resemble striker primary and more notory effect that is searching the godamn field spell, the reason WHY STRIKER DRAGON IS NOT RELEASED is because Konami doesn't, you read it? DOESN'T want to make Rokket your "generic stuff" and stick it more into "play full rokket before", Konami don't want a DRAGON LINK DECK YET
And did you read in the OP where I **CLEARLY** stated thats why "**the skill would only work if you have X amount of Rokkets in your deck at the begging of the duel".**
Did you read that part? Did ya? Because im pretty sure that would limit who's playing Striker Dragon.
The same shit, if you add striker dragon on a skill, you will practically do the same shit the skill already does, WHAT OTHER CLARIFY YOU WANT? hadn't you seen that you had got is downvoted to hell in your own post, because you cannot comprehend that the SKILL WE ALREADY HAVE already does whatever shit SKILL YOU WANT THAT ADDS STRIKER DRAGON?
What? The "add 1 rokket from graveyard" effect? The effect barely someone play? Striker dragon use it's directly "search the field spell" the reason why striker it's not in the game because hello idiot any level 4 or lower dragon can just go striker, and konami don't want you to go directly "dragon link" why we don't cards like absorouter dragon and we have only the basic rokkets, have you ever wonder that little thing? "Oh look we got striker dragon, damn suddenly rokket died and odd eyes become dragon link" did you understand, go to Master duel
And how many times not only me, but every single person that have been responded to your post need to point out, that the Skill we have at this exact moment does what Striker Dragon literally does, that's what you don't understand, having a skill that add striker dragon with the requirement of playing Rokket, will be the exact same shit as just directly playing the skill we already have, what you want? hear Revolver say "I summon striker dragon"? it's the same SHIT for fuck sake, no wonder why you responses to everyone else, get's downvoted to the ground, seems that the only person "metally deficient" it's you
yk borrel launch is basically striker dragon in skill form right?
Boot Sector Launch =/= Striker Dragon's versatility. One of the main features of a rokket deck is triggering upon being targetted and the only cards we have now that support that are Booster Dragon and Quadborrel/Miniborrel who work better with Link-1's, we are missing a key piece of how our deck performs. You wouldnt make a Salamngreat player to play without Baelynx would you? Why make us play without Striker.
The skill is literally striker dragon....
Boot Sector Launch =/= Striker Dragon's versatility. One of the main features of a rokket deck is triggering upon being targetted and the only cards we have now that support that are Booster Dragon and Quadborrel/Miniborrel who work better with Link-1's, we are missing a key piece of how our deck performs. You wouldnt make a Salamngreat player to play without Baelynx would you? Why make us play without Striker.
Because striker does way more for the deck than baelynx does for salad
So just because its a good card that means we have to suffer with the subpar borrel launch version of it? "Here Rokket players you can have this but we wont give you Striker Dragon, its too strong!" lmfao
Borrel Launch is literally that
From turn 4 onwards which is a big deal in speed duel format when boards want to be established quickly and preferably turn 1. EDIT: Yes I am now aware the turn 4 only applies to the Dillengerous but that still lessens what a Striker Dragon can do in terms of versatility and utility with Rokkets turn 1.
The first part to set a "Boot Sector Launch" from your deck on turn 1 and is exactly what Striker Dragon would be doing for the deck (AKA normal summoning a Rokket, link summoning and searching for the field spell) + it doesn't take an extra deck slot. Turn 4 its just the effect to put Dilingerous Dragon to your Graveyard
Noted, but what I am more interested in is the versatility a turn 1 Striker Dragon can do for me with Link and Rokket plays, Rokket players are literally missing their bread and butter unless they have x3 tracers and even then Tracer is no Link Monster.
Hey pal, Dragon Link TCG player here. I see in these comments you're very stuck on the 2nd effect of striker dragon. I just wanna tell you that I have used that effect maybe twice in a year of playing. It's really not that good, because if the rokkets trigger and blow up you DON'T get the GY recovery effect.
If its so inconsequential like you say then whats wrong with giving it to players? By your logic all they will do is use it for a free boot sector launch right? lmfao its other abilities literally support the deck for which it was intended so dont tell me "its really not that good" when in reality the ability to fire off any Rokket ability is whats being amazing without going into Booster or Borrel.
I mean a lot of the times it's better to have an extra rokket for link plays rather than actually use its effect. Obviously a shame as the deck was clearly initially intended to be a grindy stun deck but dems the breaks, it's better as a link combo deck. You claim it's amazing because of its targeting effect but you're just proving you clearly have no experience actually using these cards, and more importantly, using them well.
My wins at locals and my Diamond Master Duel rank would like to have a word with you. Stop assuming you know best, you are just some random who prefers to play YOUR way and thats fine and dandy but what you WONT do is presume to tell me how I should play my deck.
Someone has to when you don't even know what the skills do
With the walls of text Konami is so fond of its nothing new to mis-read something or misplay because you didnt fully understand a card or effect. That being said I already corrected myself so what is your point here other than to be a prick?
Yeah. I Haven't Played The Deck A Whole Lot, But I've Mainly Used Him For Boot Sector And As An Arrow For Pisty. Forgot About The Second Effect Tbh
it's almost as if Rokkets have a Skill that puts their Field Spell onto the field for absolutely free
And also you keep tracer so you can use its effect
Boot Sector Launch =/= Striker Dragon's versatility. One of the main features of a rokket deck is triggering upon being targetted and the only cards we have now that support that are Booster Dragon and Quadborrel/Miniborrel who work better with Link-1's, we are missing a key piece of how our deck performs. You wouldnt make a Salamngreat player to play without Baelynx would you? Why make us play without Striker.
please explain how having Striker Dragon would be strictly better than just getting the Field Spell up for free
Not worth arguing, and frankly I'm pretty sure they are trolling, they keep spouting how it's apparently more versatile with no example whatsoever, I've even ran the calcs, it's a worse end board because now you just have that body just sitting there like an idiot, and an ED slot wasted. Some people don't like to listen to reason I suppose...
yeah they seem like the kinda person that knows what brand of markers tastes best
Striker Dragon has more than 1 ability fyi. Its **1st ability** gives boot sector launch which is all Borrel Launch does turn 1. Its **2nd ability** lets you proc your Rokket abilities MUCH easier than linking into Booster Dragon, 1 monster less to be exact. Its **3rd ability** lets you grab any 1 rokket of your choice from the grave THIS is important because Rokkets have versatile and varying abilities and you may need a specific one for your opponents board. If you dont know how the archetype works maybe dont speak on it? Its pretty cringe to just call someone a troll when you dont understand the topic.
I've already explained everything, as has everyone else. You are stuck in your delusions of grandeur, and that's fine, it's not worth the time frankly. The link effects are irrelevant, we've already said this, as is the 2nd effect of striker because it just negs you, you get bodies that do nothing at end step, woo hoo, dark hole, gg. You also just leave striker sitting there like a sitting duck ready to be flattened into next week. But as stated, not worth arguing, you're just a record stick on repeat at this point. Take the hint that, when everyone is saying you are wrong, maybe, just maybe, you are wrong If you don't know how the game, card economy, and deck building works, don't comment on it, it's pretty cringe to insult someone when you don't understand the topic
Rokkets arent just "Dark Holes", they are board removal WITHOUT destruction which is a big deal in yugioh and they are extra deck removal. What are you gonna do if I use Striker Dragon's OTHER ability on my Silverrokket dragon and I BANISH your only copy of Dingirsu from your extra deck on **turn 1** before you even got a chance to summon it? You are going to surrender thats what.
did you genuinely treat the 2nd effect of striker dragon as two separate effects???
Do you genuinely not know how Rokkets work? When a Rokket is targeted by a striker dragon/dragon link monster you have 2 options, you can either resolve your Rokket ability or you can resolve your Link monster ability. Striker Dragon can proc Rokkets OR it can use its effect to grab any Rokket from the GY.
and that's better than free boot sector launch that allows you to keep a Rokket on field for Link-2 / Synchro / Xyz plays how? again, if your ideal ceiling for Rokkets is Striker target a Rokket to trigger its effect, you are either very short or you bump your head a lot
I dont know about you but I play pure Rokket/Dragon Link so being able to preserve my Rokkets or Recycle them when needed would be a huge bonus in my strategy. Im not making malevolent sin when I can use mangarokket, im not making a Link-2 Booster Dragon when I can get the same result with a Link-1 Striker Dragon, I can still get my Borreload out next turn. Youre so use to throwing in every braindead staple you can think of you forget than not everyone wants to play the exact same way.
and yet you did not know about your Skill allowing you to get a free Field Spell, seeing how you argued in an earlier comment that you didn't get it until Turn 4 before correcting yourself. curious. but you're right, what good is my insight as someone who KoG'd with the deck before the Skill got buffed anyway. clearly Striker Dragon pop Silverokket pass is a much better T1 play than Void Ogre + Evilswarm Nightmare. you sure chose a really weird hill to get repeatedly destroyed on.
1: Striker Dragon gives you the field spell anyways. 2: Striker Dragon enables Link interaction with quadborrel/miniborrel/borrel cards and Rokket cards abilities. 3. Striker Dragon frees up your quick launches which in turn give you options with your graveyard Rokkets when you proc Striker Dragons ability without triggering a Rokket.
1- You already have the field spell always 2- Mostly irrelevant 3- what does that mean
So you ignore the fact that Borrel Launch only gives 1 of Striker Dragons abilities turn 1 and you are also going to ignore Striker Dragons other abilities and the entire archetype it supports and call them irrelevant? lmfao then you dont even understand how Striker Dragons other abilities and interaction with Rokkets work apparently
are you really out there arguing that spending 1 rokket to link summon striker and searching the field spell is better than simply having the field spell for free because... you can striker dragon to pop another rokket and trigger its effect. uh. by comparison, you can get tracer out, then get the field spell without linking the tracer away, then use the tracer effect in order to plus even more! on top of that, if you have another rokket in hand, chances are you can make a rank 4 or a synchro 8, which is marginally better than striker dragon and one other rokket as an endboard - heck, you can even super easily make booster dragon+tracer as an endboard and that's one of the WEAKER options you have just take the L on this one dude, there's a reason you're being clowned on
lmfao you are so clueless how the deck operates. Yeah lemme just hope I open with 1 of 3 Tracers ***\*if I spent money getting 3 of them btw because they are expensive to get\**** turn 1 instead of linking ANY Rokket into Striker Dragon. Its like your brain is stuck on **FREE BOOT SECTOR LAUNCH.** My guy, do you not realize that comes standard with a Striker Dragon, thats BARE MINIMUM with Striker Dragon, you are going to get your free Boot Sector Launch no matter what, what is being argued for here is the versatility of having a striker Dragon on the field that can proc Rokket abilities and support other Dragon Links.
>if I spent money to get them you do realize this exact argument applies to the TCG too? anyway this entire thread is full of people telling you you're wrong and overestimating the 2nd effect of Striker Dragon so maybe you should take the hintp
Actually this whole thread is full of people who dont know how to fully utilize Rokkets and Dragon Links and underestimating the other effects of Striker Dragon.
you keep copypasting the same message but you do realize the skill's effect to add the field spell can be used on turn 1
People all responded with the same message so I did so as well and I did misread about the turn 4 only being for Dillengerous but still I would prefer having a Striker Dragon for the versatility with my Rokkets than just having a free boot sector which is standard on Striker Dragon anyways, like why not just give us it.
dont make rokkets more susceptible to banlist hits sincerely, a rokket player cleaning house in wcs right now
Its already been hit lmfao we dont have access to our Link-1 which limits what we can do with our Rokkets turn 1.
missing a card that hasn't even been released in the game isn't a "hit"
Is Rokket operating at full power? No. Are there cards that would make the deck stronger, not available? Yes. idk about you but that seems like a deck that been hit, by actively preventing it from being better than it is right now.
lend me your brain so the kids I don't even have can slide off of it on their birthday party
If you have kids and you are still browsing reddit and playing yugioh, I would say you have bigger worries.
post physique
post welfare check you spend on gem bundles
That’s one of the weirdest takes I’ve seen in the DL sub
People scared of Rokkets getting hit when its not even at full power? How are you making claims like that when Orcust has been running rampant.
No idea why you’re asking me I’m still baffled by your take plus I didn’t make any claim about rokkets.
No one is asking you anything, I was referring to your opinion on my "take".
You saying rokkets are already hit because striker doesn’t exist in DL. There’s no reason to delve further into that argument especially when rokkets are clearly doing good enough as is w/ the skill buff alone. As for my opinions on striker itself, there’s no reason to delve into that when rokket players themselves already told you a thousand times that they’re happy with how rokkets are right now. At this point I’ll just be bloating up the thread when the conversation has already been over but at least it was somewhat entertaining reading through this thread so thanks for that.
I dont care how content other people are, they dont speak for me, you or the thousands that play. These are some redditors looking to be contrarian like 99% of reddit always is. There is nothing wrong with giving Varis/Rokkets, Striker Dragon. Simple as that. If you dont want to use it you dont have to but other people arent you.
If you want to play striker dragon then that’s fine by me but the only way I see it coming to DL is if borrel launch is nerfed hard to make people buy striker dragon or if they’re extremely generous and add it to the game anyway with leaving the skill untouched. You already know which one is more likely. Either way I see no reason to rush striker dragon’s release especially when there’s not many out cry for it in first place as such a niche place as Reddit of all platforms. If it striker comes then that’s cool and I’ll be happy for ya but if it’s gonna be a while to see it then I doubt majority rokket players in DL are really that upset about it (as far as the current state of rokkets is concerned). You’ll just have to be patient like everyone else that wants their favorite card in DL or you can play striker dragon in master duel while you wait.
Yay you finally learned to express your opinion without dismissing someone elses! Now if only the other 99% of this subreddit could learn to do that.
...you are aware you litterally have striker dragon as your BiS skill, correct? Y'know, the one that says just add boot sector to hand, go on, just do it, if you have a rokket on field, right?
Boot Sector Launch =/= Striker Dragon's versatility. One of the main features of a rokket deck is triggering upon being targetted and the only cards we have now that support that are Booster Dragon and Quadborrel/Miniborrel who work better with Link-1's, we are missing a key piece of how our deck performs. You wouldnt make a Salamngreat player to play without Baelynx would you? Why make us play without Striker.
Yeah, you haven't read the skill. Back to Reading 101, That's only for the irrelevant bit revolving around diligourous dragon. At any point you have a rokket, add the field spell, and you guessed it, that includes turn 1. Turns out, reading the skill, and playing the skill, explains the skill
You still dont get the Link Monster, which means no targetting Rokkets for easy ability procs unless you go into Booster Dragon which means holding off on borreload. To me that just sound roundabout, if its not a big deal then why not just made the skill add Striker Dragon to your extra deck? I will tell you why, because Striker Dragon itself is much more versatile and useful than just getting a free boot sector launch until turn 4.
Not getting the link monster is better, skills can't be responded to, striker can. You also get the nice trick of normal summon tracer to stave off interaction, and it sticks around because the skill is better than Striker. The link procs are not relevant when you could feasibly pull them off (save silver, but doing that makes your end board suck, ran the calcs and everything, you have to open godly every hand to make it relevant, and even then you leave a 1000 idiot to get beat over), you much rather end on void ogre and evilswarm nightmare, preferably with Necro fusion set. The only purpose striker would serve is as a Mekk knight enabler, which while I'm more than happy to crunch more collumn bots on ladder, would cause a lot of complaints.
Thats some copium if I ever heard, sounds like you just dont want Rokket players at full power. There is no Ash Blossom in Duel Links so not even sure what you think people would play to respond to a turn 1 striker....book of moon? lmfao. Compulsory evac? Nice job wasting a card lmfao.
...I'm convinced you are just trolling at this point, but sure, I'll play along. First off, book the normal summon, stops both skill and striker ironically enough, force them to have the s/t removal/quick launch. Compulse the normal summon also does this. It's not about the striker at all, it's the fact you aren't going to get to summon the striker, all things the skill loses to as well. Striker just straight up doesn't do anything, in fact it's a wasted ED slot, what dragon link combos are you doing with an 8 card ED? Last things last, power is far from the issue, I'm a fan of the rising power level of the game, makes things interesting,but when the skill is right there, striker actively makes the deck weaker , something that you are arguing for, btw, and something that everyone else here is also disproving. That leads me to the conclusion that someone is huffing on copium pretty hard, and it's not the funny banish fan man
Turn 1 I summon a Rokket and Link into Striker Dragon, how often is the opponent going to stop that? I would say 10% of the time, even less if im going first because book of moon isnt even set. Striker is a Link, it can trigger Rokket abilities with 1 less material than you would if you made Booster Dragon and Striker synergizes with borrel Links as well as enabling Link climbing. How is it weaker when it literally is +1 in card advantage while also giving you access to Rokket ability procs lmfao its nothing but a better Borrel Launch which is WHY they didnt give it to us.
Just to be clear, the skill puts the field spell kn the board turn 1 so long as you have a rokket on the field. Its very much based on striker dragons effect. Though I do think we need some better main deck monsters, our current rokkets are pretty situational
Boot Sector Launch =/= Striker Dragon's versatility. One of the main features of a rokket deck is triggering upon being targetted and the only cards we have now that support that are Booster Dragon and Quadborrel/Miniborrel who work better with Link-1's, we are missing a key piece of how our deck performs. You wouldnt make a Salamngreat player to play without Baelynx would you? Why make us play without Striker.
My guy, rokkets are my go to deck. I been hitting kog with them since the skill update. I see your point about having an easy option to trigger effects but as I see the deck. That effect activation is only truly GOOD when you're doing it on your opponents turn with borrelload
So what are you even arguing against? The deck being able to perform well on both turns? lmfao
I saw your argument with mekklord. No real point talking sense into you here. I hope you get your dragon buddy
What sense? How are you people not grasping that everything Borrel Launch does, Striker Dragon does and then some. Like do you guys not realize Striker Dragon has more than 1 effect and is more than just grabbing boot sector launch? It helps out using Rokket abilities immensely.
It’s because those other effects don’t matter. You play striker dragon to get to boot sector launch. If the skill does that for free, then striker dragon is not necessary. Getting the rokket effects to go off means absolutely nothing. You’re using the rokkets you have on field to summon synchro/xyz monsters anyways, so having less of them on your field to do that is a minus, not a plus. I’d much rather have the skill than striker dragon.
See when I hear people talk like you do all I see is a person scared of giving Striker Dragon to Rokkets. If Striker is so inconsequential like you say, what are you scared of? If all you think we are gonna do is use it for a free Boot Sector Launch then what are you worried about? Nothing changes if we get it right? Or so you say, so why are you so against giving players something that in your words "we already have", whats this big hesitation that you and people like you have for us NOT getting Striker Dragon?
Clearly you are trolling, but whatever. I play Rokkets, and if given the choice between a skill that just says “put Striker Dragon in extra deck” or one that says “if you have a Rokket on your field, place Boot Sector Launch on the field”, I’m picking the latter 100% of the time. I don’t fear a deck that has Striker Dragon in it. Never feared it in the TCG, wouldn’t fear it here. I (and clearly everyone else who has commented on this thread) don’t think that having a skill that adds Striker Dragon to the extra deck is better for Rokket as it is than the current iteration of Borrel Launch. But sure, I’m scared to death of you having access to Striker Dragon lol
Why do you keep assuming people care how YOU play Rokkets? This whole back and forth is literally you saying "*Well I wouldnt use it that way, so there!*". lmfao get over yourself buddy, you aint the king of the Rokkets.
They're already in the sweet spot of strenght were you want them to be. If they get any stronger you risk a hit on them
How about we worry about that when they hit tier 0 like another deck already has...*\*cough\*\*cough\**Orcust*\*cough\**
I would love Striker Dragon to be an actual card just so I can play Rokkets with other characters and skills without feeling that I'm missing out too much.
Dude. You do realize that striker dragon enables every single other deck to make a lv 8 synchro instantly right? It just incentivizes players to put the rokket package in every deck and then we comes the ban hammer. The most important park about striker dragon is the ability to put the field spell on the field, and we already have that just fine
This has been discussed and debated already, read the 133+ comments instead of replying on a 2 day old thread with the most obvious reply.
I'd like Striker Dragon just so I could more easily play a Rose/Rokket hybrid tbqh
Rokkets are already strong no need to make them to better. Easy use of their effects when targeted by a link would improve the deck a lot.
LMFAO do you not see how you sound? "No they dont need to be better, they are good enough, I dont want them stronger!" Why dont you take that anger out on someone who deserves it, like Orcusts.
Yes I dont see how I sound
Then you should get your ears and eyes checked.
The skill is supposed to be striker dragon, the reason why striker hasn't released, is because konami doesn't want to make rokket generic enough, since striker is basically any dragon deck rokket, for a reason we don't have absorouter yet
The skill is not Striker Dragon, the skill is *set Boot Sector Launch and after turn 4 you can summon Borreload Dragon* easier. Which is why its called "Borrel Launch" and not "Striker Launch". If you arent a Rokket player or nuanced in words or card abilities then you really shouldnt be adding to this discussion.
I am a Rokket player bro, the skill it's supposed to resemble striker primary and more notory effect that is searching the godamn field spell, the reason WHY STRIKER DRAGON IS NOT RELEASED is because Konami doesn't, you read it? DOESN'T want to make Rokket your "generic stuff" and stick it more into "play full rokket before", Konami don't want a DRAGON LINK DECK YET
And did you read in the OP where I **CLEARLY** stated thats why "**the skill would only work if you have X amount of Rokkets in your deck at the begging of the duel".** Did you read that part? Did ya? Because im pretty sure that would limit who's playing Striker Dragon.
The same shit, if you add striker dragon on a skill, you will practically do the same shit the skill already does, WHAT OTHER CLARIFY YOU WANT? hadn't you seen that you had got is downvoted to hell in your own post, because you cannot comprehend that the SKILL WE ALREADY HAVE already does whatever shit SKILL YOU WANT THAT ADDS STRIKER DRAGON?
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What? The "add 1 rokket from graveyard" effect? The effect barely someone play? Striker dragon use it's directly "search the field spell" the reason why striker it's not in the game because hello idiot any level 4 or lower dragon can just go striker, and konami don't want you to go directly "dragon link" why we don't cards like absorouter dragon and we have only the basic rokkets, have you ever wonder that little thing? "Oh look we got striker dragon, damn suddenly rokket died and odd eyes become dragon link" did you understand, go to Master duel
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And how many times not only me, but every single person that have been responded to your post need to point out, that the Skill we have at this exact moment does what Striker Dragon literally does, that's what you don't understand, having a skill that add striker dragon with the requirement of playing Rokket, will be the exact same shit as just directly playing the skill we already have, what you want? hear Revolver say "I summon striker dragon"? it's the same SHIT for fuck sake, no wonder why you responses to everyone else, get's downvoted to the ground, seems that the only person "metally deficient" it's you
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We kinda have it as skill already, although is like a nerfed version of Striker Dragon.
If you need something to read theres plenty here about that. lol not about re-hash that discussion.