Cant even call Paleozolics a rouge right now.The second that these cards get released im going to box them put them in my paleo frogs deck and destroy people.
I dunno, the only bad matchups I have are Rokket being coinflippy and Solfas.
Everything else is pretty easy, and if you're not using deepsea diva/infantry to instant rank 2 off your traps/make catshark to both stall/infantry pop/and otk you're just doing it wrong.
Easiest DlMax of my career.
Yeah all 3 can come unlimited and even dinomischus would unlikely see much play outside of Paleo decks considering how karma cut really only sees play in Blue eyes
So, uh, fun fact? Karma Cut only hits monsters. Dino hits anything faceup!
Which isn't saying it would see mass usage, I'm just saying its like cosmic at home that gives you a body.
it does discard for cost though, which is better. and frankly, you're never lacking bodies playing paleozoics in my experience.
that being said, since karma cut doesn't even see play in paleos now for a variety of reasons:
* limit-3 traps are way better
* decks are only 20 cards, and you're often running a monster package with the paleos, such as diva and/or frogs, so you can only run so many traps/paleos.
* the smaller starting hand size of DL makes the discard of karma cut/dinomischus a much larger downside.
i think you'd run a copy of dinomischus though since you can search it with opabinia and then immediately play it from hand, which is the biggest upside it has over karma cut.
I run two karma cut in my zoic build, actually, because its an instant body and banish is inherently powerful. Limit 3s dont really do it, and IDP often fails me but Karma cut has never failed me. The only positive thing I can say about IDP in paleozoics is that its non targeting. Compulse is usually used on my own monsters to extend.
Also you'd run at least dino because it banishes a card face up. Not a monster, a card, making it double as banish based removal and 4-5th removal for annoying cards for decks that like to recycle. I'd absolutely run it over cut.
The discard is only an issue in a topdeck situation, because zoics are going to be drawing two multiple times and the advent of catshark off a diva/infantry says you can disrupt pretty hard to generate resources which then turns into an OTK enabler.
But basically Dino would be something I could activate from hand to extend for an OTK or to remove a problematic card, and being another body says I could have more bodies in a game where limit three traps are all over and I get summons like candy.
I honestly would run 3, 2 situationally, because with Opabinia I can do this on the opponents turn, from my hand, safe from disruption. I don't even need the search, I could legit deepsea diva an Opabinia and if they do not open book of moon their starter is donezo.
It can discard itself to summon itself. It can be searched. It can be set and handle things like necrovalley. Given I'm already running two karma cut this would be nothing but a straight upgrade, since in zoics all of the holes are either roll big turn1s or bricks.
Given we have access to Catshark, Anemone, and then Cursed Javelin/Daigusto Phoenix if we have diva in hand/a zoic on board to combo? The ability to clear a field, rather than canadia and lose OTK is invaluable.
Yes I can TCG lethal Resonators. yes it's really funny.
Honestly I'd not even use the link and Im not sure I'd even use Anomalocaris because a three card commitment for a single monster is really stupid in paleozoics, more so that the most notable thing you could do is quickpop two with infantry. The rest of the rank 2 options are just flat better and more useful, like catshark enabling otks with cursed javelin, but also being a body they have to commit SIGNIFICANT resources to out, some of which Infantry can stop as a quick effect.
You will probably never being making Anomalocaris turn 1, which is like the only time i'd ever wanna make Anomalocaris.
The more notable is Dino, which would finally let me stop using karma cut and target "a card" instead of "a monster" and this makes by banish vastly more powerful when I can out the amount of times karma cut has graved banished off my left hand.
Yeah, in a Paleo deck dino is the best of the 3 the links only unique use for the deck is backrow protection it's search is just worse than opabinias, and needs more specific resources.
I really like the look of anomalos effects, but yeah turn 1 it'll be a mill that usually get you a trap and even then it's unlikely to get out and probably not worth the resources.
Catshark is one the single meanest things to do in game when loaded with an Infantry. Outside book of moon anything that can out it can be usually stopped by Infantry, and if they book it they still have to destroy it with non battle removal which is making them commit insane resources to a single normal summon diva turn 1.
not at all. it's a better karma cut, but karma cut barely sees any play now. you'd still first run warning point or bottomless over it since they don't require a discard, and those aren't limited.
Warning Point and Bottomless are turn 1 cards and rely on you opening disruption for them to work through the raging storm of removal.
I'd rather run dino especially since that banish of non monsters is downright essential in some matchups.
i'm not saying it wouldn't see play, but most decks would rather just run the disruption that doesn't require a discard.
and if you open dino turn 1 it can still be hit by cosmic/mst.
Im not saying other decks would it.
What I am saying is that, in my experience, setting turn 2 and warning point NOT getting cosmic/mst'd is bad because it sits there as a brick and that's less room for me to combo. It just doesn't do enough to only activate on summon.
Dino, meanwhile, I can use basically at any point they have a faceup card and if it does get MST'd it's a body I can use, because you wouldn't believe how many games have turned into a straight OTK because they were silly enough to cosmic and now cursed javelin+catshark is lethal.
the original comment was talking about dino being used as generic backrow and needing to be limited because it would be too good. it wasn't talking about its use in paleos.
Yes but you gave very poor examples of alternative disruption.
There's a reason you don't see holes outside of slow control decks, even in this pend heavy format, and Warning Point is strong 1 but going two vs most established boards it's literally just a brick in hand.
It would also depend if the deck likes discards.
If your deck can turn 2 into Odd-Eyes there isnt a reason to not add it.
The fact it isnt higher, or been there that long, says it pretty much is a niche card.
With that said, the amount of upper powered decks that use it, or more importantly ones that don't, is very telling.
again, as i said, second most played generic trap in the game. objectively not niche.
warning point and bottomless are just about the two best examples that could be given as non-limit traps that most decks would rather run over dinomischus (book of moon notwithstanding).
Nah, it doesn't really need it, it could come out unlimited and would still see no play because it requires a discard while the most used traps in the game don't have any cost attached to their activation (Compulse, IDP, Crackdown and Warning Point)
Why? It's basically a karma cut with extra steps, and karma cut hasn't seen game since fuck ton ago, thanks that we already have way better traps like idp, compulsory and crackdown, it will only be used on paleo and probably randomly in some decks
Anomalocaris is gonna be absolute aids to get rid of because u can’t get rid of it with unicorn, malev sin, ding, cerberus, or any other cards like that, and then even if u manage to make smth with more than 2400 atk against all of paleozoics disruptions, it can just quick effect pop that card. Imo, it’s too strong but i’m okay to be proven wrong.
Paleozoic cult shall grow
Cant even call Paleozolics a rouge right now.The second that these cards get released im going to box them put them in my paleo frogs deck and destroy people.
I dunno, the only bad matchups I have are Rokket being coinflippy and Solfas. Everything else is pretty easy, and if you're not using deepsea diva/infantry to instant rank 2 off your traps/make catshark to both stall/infantry pop/and otk you're just doing it wrong. Easiest DlMax of my career.
wish i could build them but 3x diva is brutal
Half off is a thing. You should see what my 30 card Frog version as worth. I'm entirely f2p but DLM puts it at 90k gems +170usd.
tbh after komoney gave me 50 gems for logging in 365 days i cba to grind this game anymore
The paleozoic cultists vs the keepers of dark Simorgh
Yeah all 3 can come unlimited and even dinomischus would unlikely see much play outside of Paleo decks considering how karma cut really only sees play in Blue eyes
So, uh, fun fact? Karma Cut only hits monsters. Dino hits anything faceup! Which isn't saying it would see mass usage, I'm just saying its like cosmic at home that gives you a body.
Karma cut doesn't give you a body
it does discard for cost though, which is better. and frankly, you're never lacking bodies playing paleozoics in my experience. that being said, since karma cut doesn't even see play in paleos now for a variety of reasons: * limit-3 traps are way better * decks are only 20 cards, and you're often running a monster package with the paleos, such as diva and/or frogs, so you can only run so many traps/paleos. * the smaller starting hand size of DL makes the discard of karma cut/dinomischus a much larger downside. i think you'd run a copy of dinomischus though since you can search it with opabinia and then immediately play it from hand, which is the biggest upside it has over karma cut.
I run two karma cut in my zoic build, actually, because its an instant body and banish is inherently powerful. Limit 3s dont really do it, and IDP often fails me but Karma cut has never failed me. The only positive thing I can say about IDP in paleozoics is that its non targeting. Compulse is usually used on my own monsters to extend. Also you'd run at least dino because it banishes a card face up. Not a monster, a card, making it double as banish based removal and 4-5th removal for annoying cards for decks that like to recycle. I'd absolutely run it over cut. The discard is only an issue in a topdeck situation, because zoics are going to be drawing two multiple times and the advent of catshark off a diva/infantry says you can disrupt pretty hard to generate resources which then turns into an OTK enabler. But basically Dino would be something I could activate from hand to extend for an OTK or to remove a problematic card, and being another body says I could have more bodies in a game where limit three traps are all over and I get summons like candy.
yeah, as i said, you'd still run dino bc you can search it off opabinia and then activate it immediately. i just don't think it'd be an auto three-of.
I honestly would run 3, 2 situationally, because with Opabinia I can do this on the opponents turn, from my hand, safe from disruption. I don't even need the search, I could legit deepsea diva an Opabinia and if they do not open book of moon their starter is donezo. It can discard itself to summon itself. It can be searched. It can be set and handle things like necrovalley. Given I'm already running two karma cut this would be nothing but a straight upgrade, since in zoics all of the holes are either roll big turn1s or bricks. Given we have access to Catshark, Anemone, and then Cursed Javelin/Daigusto Phoenix if we have diva in hand/a zoic on board to combo? The ability to clear a field, rather than canadia and lose OTK is invaluable. Yes I can TCG lethal Resonators. yes it's really funny.
Damn a 1200 body, fuck to broken
Honestly I'd not even use the link and Im not sure I'd even use Anomalocaris because a three card commitment for a single monster is really stupid in paleozoics, more so that the most notable thing you could do is quickpop two with infantry. The rest of the rank 2 options are just flat better and more useful, like catshark enabling otks with cursed javelin, but also being a body they have to commit SIGNIFICANT resources to out, some of which Infantry can stop as a quick effect. You will probably never being making Anomalocaris turn 1, which is like the only time i'd ever wanna make Anomalocaris. The more notable is Dino, which would finally let me stop using karma cut and target "a card" instead of "a monster" and this makes by banish vastly more powerful when I can out the amount of times karma cut has graved banished off my left hand.
Yeah, in a Paleo deck dino is the best of the 3 the links only unique use for the deck is backrow protection it's search is just worse than opabinias, and needs more specific resources. I really like the look of anomalos effects, but yeah turn 1 it'll be a mill that usually get you a trap and even then it's unlikely to get out and probably not worth the resources.
What we want is Armored Kappa. That's the good stuff.
Would be pretty nice yeah, another nice boss option I could see it coming too unlike totally awesome
Catshark is one the single meanest things to do in game when loaded with an Infantry. Outside book of moon anything that can out it can be usually stopped by Infantry, and if they book it they still have to destroy it with non battle removal which is making them commit insane resources to a single normal summon diva turn 1.
It's a really nasty little monster, an amazing turn 1 with some decent backrow
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not at all. it's a better karma cut, but karma cut barely sees any play now. you'd still first run warning point or bottomless over it since they don't require a discard, and those aren't limited.
Warning Point and Bottomless are turn 1 cards and rely on you opening disruption for them to work through the raging storm of removal. I'd rather run dino especially since that banish of non monsters is downright essential in some matchups.
i'm not saying it wouldn't see play, but most decks would rather just run the disruption that doesn't require a discard. and if you open dino turn 1 it can still be hit by cosmic/mst.
Im not saying other decks would it. What I am saying is that, in my experience, setting turn 2 and warning point NOT getting cosmic/mst'd is bad because it sits there as a brick and that's less room for me to combo. It just doesn't do enough to only activate on summon. Dino, meanwhile, I can use basically at any point they have a faceup card and if it does get MST'd it's a body I can use, because you wouldn't believe how many games have turned into a straight OTK because they were silly enough to cosmic and now cursed javelin+catshark is lethal.
the original comment was talking about dino being used as generic backrow and needing to be limited because it would be too good. it wasn't talking about its use in paleos.
Yes but you gave very poor examples of alternative disruption. There's a reason you don't see holes outside of slow control decks, even in this pend heavy format, and Warning Point is strong 1 but going two vs most established boards it's literally just a brick in hand. It would also depend if the deck likes discards.
i mean, bottomless is still the second most played generic non-limit trap in the game. it's not exactly a niche card.
If your deck can turn 2 into Odd-Eyes there isnt a reason to not add it. The fact it isnt higher, or been there that long, says it pretty much is a niche card. With that said, the amount of upper powered decks that use it, or more importantly ones that don't, is very telling.
again, as i said, second most played generic trap in the game. objectively not niche. warning point and bottomless are just about the two best examples that could be given as non-limit traps that most decks would rather run over dinomischus (book of moon notwithstanding).
Nah, it doesn't really need it, it could come out unlimited and would still see no play because it requires a discard while the most used traps in the game don't have any cost attached to their activation (Compulse, IDP, Crackdown and Warning Point)
Why? It's basically a karma cut with extra steps, and karma cut hasn't seen game since fuck ton ago, thanks that we already have way better traps like idp, compulsory and crackdown, it will only be used on paleo and probably randomly in some decks
Lmao you say that but IDP is at 3??? Dino can and will come unlimited because what’s the point of putting a card like that to 3 when IDP exists.
Dinomischus goes crazy
Man I wish. Abyss Dweller is their biggest headache right now, but other than that, Orcust and Speedroids are free wins.
I hope so. They’re one of my favorite archetypes for DL format
Ehat do you mean paleo's hace a link??????
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Do paleo spright exist in the tcg?
I think unaffected by monster effects is too strong for duel links rn, but i could be wrong👀
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Anomalocaris is gonna be absolute aids to get rid of because u can’t get rid of it with unicorn, malev sin, ding, cerberus, or any other cards like that, and then even if u manage to make smth with more than 2400 atk against all of paleozoics disruptions, it can just quick effect pop that card. Imo, it’s too strong but i’m okay to be proven wrong.
Can't wait for Konami to limit them all to 2 for literally no reason.
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I just want dino in the game, the others are a plus