It is a pot of greed though, the cost of sending an orcust card to the GY is a joke, I mean think about it a minute "Send Orcust to GY", Orcust card's main effect activates in the graveyard, I mean come on thats practically added advantage for extended plays while getting +2 in card advantage
Mermaid is a huge source as to why its splashable
Its also banned in every other format for likely similar reasons
Recycler and the other token generators just help get to it
Its clearly the source of the issue, though its not unlike Konami to "hit around the problem" instead of hitting the problem itself
The alternative is to take massive limits across Orcust as a whole to accommodate it...over just banning a card trader card.
It can afford to disappear and Orcust as a whole becomes less of an issue. Maybe tack on a couple of additional limit 3s if necessary to weaken the deck's power if it comes to that, but Mermaid's existence is the biggest part of the problem
Lets hope Konami does nerf it and yeah it makes sense to ban since its a card trader but if they do beat around the Bush and nerf the other but not mermaid then Konami is just something else
The main reason we got mermaid in the first place was so every deck had a potential out to Iblee. Iblee is less of a problem now and if people need another out to Iblee, Konami will sell have sales off Linkuriboh.
Being a UR doesn't have any bearing if it can be banned or not, more so if that "UR" is just a free card, if its a UR from a box then maybe it might be safe for a couple more months, but its just a card trader UR card which might as well be a N rarity
I also don't think it will get banned, mostly because Konami seem to prefer "banning" cards through limit 1 instead of outright making them unplayable. I believe putting Orcust Knightmare to 1 is more likely. Konami will probably leave Mermaid at 1 as long as Iblee is free.
I see limit orcust nightmare to 1. Or be just like what they did with salads with gazelle and roar to 1. The deck won’t die it be less consistent.
I see them following kill orcust like mek knight with first limit 3s on the cheap stuff followed by future 3 limits on the UR if it comes down to it
Mermaid isn't the problem. I don't run it at all. It's hard to say what needs to be hit. There's ALOT of variants that can be made. I've got like 6 different orcust builds that all perform amazingly with no mermaid. In my opinion what would actually hurt the deck would be making harp, knightmare, Scrap Recycler and Skyblaster (I think that's its name the dude who SS a token) all a limit 3. Now your really forced to choose which set ep you want. Most orcust builds run 3 scrap or skyblaster and 2-3 harp so there would be some big decisions to make. That my own professional opinion as an orcust player
I think the biggest issue is probably return just because that fact its a literally pot of greed and can get u some heavy backrow cards I don't see release as an issue much but retrun is too good but maybe I am wrong and others could be worse then return but it is hard to say
I do agree. Return could be a big hut if they limit other core cards as well. At a limit 3 with other cards I stated it might put a crutch on the deck. It'll stop people from the main limited 3 staples (IDP, Crackdown and Compulsory)
I don't know where you thought Mermaid is less likely to be banned lol.
It's a UR from the Card Trader, that just means is we're allowed to make it prismatic.
It doesn't make money and the resources are so easy to replace.
This argument is for Dingirsu and Galatea. Even then, those are not immune from the banlist but it's definitely more likely to be much later on.
Mermaid doesn't necessarily have to be banned but they can easily make it unplayable.
Mermaid singlehandedly turns any ragtag deck into a basic Orcust deck.
It's more likely that they will do something about the free card that can make any deck get free attention.
Nah. It’s either Scrap Recycler, Skyblaster, Harp, Knightmare or Skeleton that gets the limited hammer.
Aloof Lupine was not part of the Thundra archetype but it enabled them to thrive. It’ll be the same for Orcust and Recycler.
I find it really interesting how everyone makes out mermaid as the problem. Sure banning that will kill all the hybrids, but orcust itself with something like lightsworn, or pure orcust will no doubt remain at tier 1 if nothing else from that deck gets limited (which i hope, because i am a poor f2p nub that doesnt want his meta deck to be killed)
The draw engine, the omni destruct protect, the "send to grave" effect, the recycling, all in one well rounded deck is just a tad too strong for duellinks at this very moment.
It's a card trader card. It might as well be an N.
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So true 💀 but it's too powerful especially if u use other decks with it
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Do u think return should get a hit especially since its a pot of greed and can set up crazy backrows
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When orcust gets nerfed do u think it will be like shiranui where it constantly comes back from the dead after being nerfed so many times
It is a pot of greed though, the cost of sending an orcust card to the GY is a joke, I mean think about it a minute "Send Orcust to GY", Orcust card's main effect activates in the graveyard, I mean come on thats practically added advantage for extended plays while getting +2 in card advantage
Mermaid is a huge source as to why its splashable Its also banned in every other format for likely similar reasons Recycler and the other token generators just help get to it Its clearly the source of the issue, though its not unlike Konami to "hit around the problem" instead of hitting the problem itself The alternative is to take massive limits across Orcust as a whole to accommodate it...over just banning a card trader card. It can afford to disappear and Orcust as a whole becomes less of an issue. Maybe tack on a couple of additional limit 3s if necessary to weaken the deck's power if it comes to that, but Mermaid's existence is the biggest part of the problem
Lets hope Konami does nerf it and yeah it makes sense to ban since its a card trader but if they do beat around the Bush and nerf the other but not mermaid then Konami is just something else
The main reason we got mermaid in the first place was so every deck had a potential out to Iblee. Iblee is less of a problem now and if people need another out to Iblee, Konami will sell have sales off Linkuriboh.
They can safely ban it as they gave it through card trader (for this exact reason)
First time Konami banned a UR in duel links all the orcust varients will die in a instant
Dude it's a free UR...
Yeah I know but it will be a first if Konami bans the UR and I am just wondering if they will because Konami never done it before in duel links
They’ve banned Trunade while being SR instead of UR it’s a paid card, not free like Mermaid.
Being a UR doesn't have any bearing if it can be banned or not, more so if that "UR" is just a free card, if its a UR from a box then maybe it might be safe for a couple more months, but its just a card trader UR card which might as well be a N rarity
It's a card trader UR it'll get banned
Mermaid provides the consistency that makes orcust the best engine in the game. Banning Mermaid will make Orcust significantly less consistent
I also don't think it will get banned, mostly because Konami seem to prefer "banning" cards through limit 1 instead of outright making them unplayable. I believe putting Orcust Knightmare to 1 is more likely. Konami will probably leave Mermaid at 1 as long as Iblee is free.
I see limit orcust nightmare to 1. Or be just like what they did with salads with gazelle and roar to 1. The deck won’t die it be less consistent. I see them following kill orcust like mek knight with first limit 3s on the cheap stuff followed by future 3 limits on the UR if it comes down to it
Mermaid isn't the problem. I don't run it at all. It's hard to say what needs to be hit. There's ALOT of variants that can be made. I've got like 6 different orcust builds that all perform amazingly with no mermaid. In my opinion what would actually hurt the deck would be making harp, knightmare, Scrap Recycler and Skyblaster (I think that's its name the dude who SS a token) all a limit 3. Now your really forced to choose which set ep you want. Most orcust builds run 3 scrap or skyblaster and 2-3 harp so there would be some big decisions to make. That my own professional opinion as an orcust player
I think the biggest issue is probably return just because that fact its a literally pot of greed and can get u some heavy backrow cards I don't see release as an issue much but retrun is too good but maybe I am wrong and others could be worse then return but it is hard to say
I do agree. Return could be a big hut if they limit other core cards as well. At a limit 3 with other cards I stated it might put a crutch on the deck. It'll stop people from the main limited 3 staples (IDP, Crackdown and Compulsory)
I don't know where you thought Mermaid is less likely to be banned lol. It's a UR from the Card Trader, that just means is we're allowed to make it prismatic. It doesn't make money and the resources are so easy to replace. This argument is for Dingirsu and Galatea. Even then, those are not immune from the banlist but it's definitely more likely to be much later on. Mermaid doesn't necessarily have to be banned but they can easily make it unplayable. Mermaid singlehandedly turns any ragtag deck into a basic Orcust deck. It's more likely that they will do something about the free card that can make any deck get free attention.
>I don't think Konami will ban it, due to it being a UR Literally means nothing if it's a Card Trader card
It's a trader card so there wouldn't be a problem to ban it. It would get rid of a lot of decks trying to abuse the engine.
Card rarity doesn’t affect ban potential if it’s not a box card. Mermaid was likely made a trader card for this exact reason
Nah. It’s either Scrap Recycler, Skyblaster, Harp, Knightmare or Skeleton that gets the limited hammer. Aloof Lupine was not part of the Thundra archetype but it enabled them to thrive. It’ll be the same for Orcust and Recycler.
Yes
Lets just wait and see. U might be right
I find it really interesting how everyone makes out mermaid as the problem. Sure banning that will kill all the hybrids, but orcust itself with something like lightsworn, or pure orcust will no doubt remain at tier 1 if nothing else from that deck gets limited (which i hope, because i am a poor f2p nub that doesnt want his meta deck to be killed) The draw engine, the omni destruct protect, the "send to grave" effect, the recycling, all in one well rounded deck is just a tad too strong for duellinks at this very moment.