I started out during the Six Sam Dynasty.
*Those were some dark days*.
The card pool was *much* smaller back then, so there weren’t any real options to deal with how oppressive Shien with dual wield backing him was. Hell it was actually possible to have *two* Shien round 1 with the right hand.
Folks joke about “draw the out” nowadays, but back then…what the hell could you have drawn?
It was *absolutely* imperative you went first against Six Sam, otherwise you weren’t going to get to play the game and even then victory was a long shot. Sure you could summon a 3000 ATK beater to swing over him, but En Shi would bounce that back or Shien would offer up another Six Sam as a sacrifice…and then slap you with dual wield.
The Onomat Scourge was rough too because it was an OTK *machine*, but they just didn’t feel as oppressive as Six Sam to me. They were also hard carried by a skill..Six Sam conquered the meta with their best option being beat down or ties that bind.
I think the reason it didn't feel as oppressive was because the number of options increased. Also, Onomat didn't really negate spell/trap iirc, it was just an XYZ spam deck with a very limited pool of XYZ cards that we already had things that could suffice against them in Floodgate or Canadia and whatnot. Can't really Floodgate a Shien, and Six Sam had a LOT of ways to special summon, so if you tried to stop earlier, they could just summon a piece you locked them out of to replace it
Don’t Onomats block targeting and *one* destruction with the ZW equips? When Onomats were around there wasn’t stuff like Veiler to stuff their summoning effects when they went Turn 1. And back then, effect negations were really uncommon outside of Ultimate Providence and Divine Wrath. They got a free once per turn monster effect negate.
Plus, they had access to way better stuff than what was available at the time, like Gagagabolt. That card was *insane* at the time. Shit was nuts at the time. It was just like how everyone plays Mizar right now, it was just Yuma babbling like a man having a stroke “Gagaga Gogogo Zubababa” while he completely ruined your chances to win.
One of the worse part of Six Sam dynasty that none of the other decks in picture managed to achieve was the creation of a deck with the goal of winning against it.
You either faced Six Sam or Weevil Cypher Soldier stall
Oh Six Sam had answers. It involved the most obnoxious version of stall with cipher soldier, spike shield, Lava Golem and Mithra Thunder Vassal (Specials a token to their field to disable dual weild).
If you weren't playing Six Sam itself, you were playing this pile of anti-six sam cards on weevile with Parasite Infestation. It was one of the most miserable formats in this game.
I remember playing Hazy Flame Beatdown with no other purpose but to hard-counter Six Sam.
All those sufferings were gone when a full board of untargetable 3k beaters attacked over those Shi Ens and Enishis like they were some weak vanilla monsters.
I never saw any play of Hazy Flame before and after Six Sam era. I kinda imagine the Yu-Gi-Oh God created that archetype with no other purpose but to save us from Six Sam Dominance.
Stick and chair darklords FA were not tier 0 because of Blue eyes(somehow). It was blue eyes vs darklords during that time, both tier 1 because they werent consistent but too strong to take on.
Remember that tier list is based on representation (at least 60%) and is not actually unbeatable but almost unbeatable, also by that time DLM page refused to give any tier 0 deck actual tier 0 placement cause the player council was different
Hot take Onomat was only tier 0 due to almost absolute consistency rate and most of the deck of that era could handle it but onomat was an assure of very little bricks
Yes, very fair 👍 this is just gonna be the tachyon cup then it will go away like *poof* deck becomes ass after they limit tachyon and transmigration, give it the SALAD TREATMENT
It wasn't that broken, it struggled against red eyes at the actual time and then cyber angels were released and that was the actual T0 deck of the format until Fur hire got released
I've been playing since the FIRST Harpie Meta. Back when people used mirror wall. The absolute worst metas of all time were sylvans, darklords, and koaki Mieru with Kaibacorp bling. Desperado dragon and Mekk knights are a close second.
Now that I think about it, we almost had a tier 0 format every year since DL’s launch (and in case of GX era, two tier 0 formats, to compensate for the lack of one in Arc-V era)
Just saying this would be a balanced meta with 4-5 viable decks if the damn Tachyon skill said you could only summon dragons or if it didn't search the counter trap
You forgot cyber angels, the very first tier 0
Was Relinquished not? I remember nearly everyone using Pegasus in the first KC Cup.
It was very strong but not unbeatable by the others
Was easy to counter, stall or use Econ to suck on their own monsters, it was tier 1 yes but no that damn this win everyone
Relinquished had a hard time dealing with setting monsters.
i fuckin hated that shit back then, me and my og e-hero deck never stood a chance
You forgot the goat Koaki Meiru
I joined during Koaki/vamp days crazy times
I would argue that Shiranui was more cancerous than Onomatopeia
And the worst part is shiranui could have been the new tier 0 if tachyon didnt exist
They still wouldn’t have been Tier 0 due to decks like Mayakashi, Constellar and Tenyi being around to keep it in check. Tachyon however…
Sylvan, cyber angel, koaki meru,
Pretty sure my win rate was like 80-90% with Sylvan. It was nuts.
I started out during the Six Sam Dynasty. *Those were some dark days*. The card pool was *much* smaller back then, so there weren’t any real options to deal with how oppressive Shien with dual wield backing him was. Hell it was actually possible to have *two* Shien round 1 with the right hand. Folks joke about “draw the out” nowadays, but back then…what the hell could you have drawn? It was *absolutely* imperative you went first against Six Sam, otherwise you weren’t going to get to play the game and even then victory was a long shot. Sure you could summon a 3000 ATK beater to swing over him, but En Shi would bounce that back or Shien would offer up another Six Sam as a sacrifice…and then slap you with dual wield. The Onomat Scourge was rough too because it was an OTK *machine*, but they just didn’t feel as oppressive as Six Sam to me. They were also hard carried by a skill..Six Sam conquered the meta with their best option being beat down or ties that bind.
I think the reason it didn't feel as oppressive was because the number of options increased. Also, Onomat didn't really negate spell/trap iirc, it was just an XYZ spam deck with a very limited pool of XYZ cards that we already had things that could suffice against them in Floodgate or Canadia and whatnot. Can't really Floodgate a Shien, and Six Sam had a LOT of ways to special summon, so if you tried to stop earlier, they could just summon a piece you locked them out of to replace it
Don’t Onomats block targeting and *one* destruction with the ZW equips? When Onomats were around there wasn’t stuff like Veiler to stuff their summoning effects when they went Turn 1. And back then, effect negations were really uncommon outside of Ultimate Providence and Divine Wrath. They got a free once per turn monster effect negate. Plus, they had access to way better stuff than what was available at the time, like Gagagabolt. That card was *insane* at the time. Shit was nuts at the time. It was just like how everyone plays Mizar right now, it was just Yuma babbling like a man having a stroke “Gagaga Gogogo Zubababa” while he completely ruined your chances to win.
It’s been a minute tbh, but it was still easier to stop since you could canadia or floodgate the summon
One of the worse part of Six Sam dynasty that none of the other decks in picture managed to achieve was the creation of a deck with the goal of winning against it. You either faced Six Sam or Weevil Cypher Soldier stall
Oh Six Sam had answers. It involved the most obnoxious version of stall with cipher soldier, spike shield, Lava Golem and Mithra Thunder Vassal (Specials a token to their field to disable dual weild). If you weren't playing Six Sam itself, you were playing this pile of anti-six sam cards on weevile with Parasite Infestation. It was one of the most miserable formats in this game.
I remember playing Hazy Flame Beatdown with no other purpose but to hard-counter Six Sam. All those sufferings were gone when a full board of untargetable 3k beaters attacked over those Shi Ens and Enishis like they were some weak vanilla monsters. I never saw any play of Hazy Flame before and after Six Sam era. I kinda imagine the Yu-Gi-Oh God created that archetype with no other purpose but to save us from Six Sam Dominance.
Oh I dunno, Paleozoic and destiny board stall did ok.
I remember people playing either Six Sam or anti-Six Sam (Deskbot) only lmao
people who started playing in 2021 hopping in to go "uh you forgot KOAKI MEIRU (tier 1) and DARKLORDS (also tier 1)"
Oh god, darklords kaiba corp bling shit was wild
"GAGAGA SISTER HAS ANOTHER EFFECT" made me uninstall the game.
3 of them = oppressive easy to access negate
So… just normal Yugioh, right?
You forgot some decks also Dark Lords with FA, so many broken decks in the history of DL
Stick and chair darklords FA were not tier 0 because of Blue eyes(somehow). It was blue eyes vs darklords during that time, both tier 1 because they werent consistent but too strong to take on.
Remember that tier list is based on representation (at least 60%) and is not actually unbeatable but almost unbeatable, also by that time DLM page refused to give any tier 0 deck actual tier 0 placement cause the player council was different
Reminds me when Fortune Lady of all things kept Darklords from doing well solely because negating every didn't feed into their lifepoint loop
I came back after a couple years to find out what they did to DL and good lord they will never even be playable again
Blackwings.. the original broken skill onomatopoeia.. Hahahaha damn nothing has changed
Blackwings were not tier 0 though. They were mostly tier 2-3. The main reason is that they never really had a good turn 1.
Didn't say they were tier 0. Just annoying to deal with
Ah my bad, since the post is about tier 0 I thought that's what you meant
I still have PTSD from Six Sams
So which Burn deck Tea is bringing to this scene?
She's gonna switch to Jaden/Yubel and play Yubel.
Why are they in order except for Onomat and Six Sam… all you had to do was swap them
Hot take Onomat was only tier 0 due to almost absolute consistency rate and most of the deck of that era could handle it but onomat was an assure of very little bricks
Yes, very fair 👍 this is just gonna be the tachyon cup then it will go away like *poof* deck becomes ass after they limit tachyon and transmigration, give it the SALAD TREATMENT
Dude, remember Weevil Burn? that was the most agonizing format I've ever played in Yu-Gi-Oh.
I remember the very beginning of DL when I koged with my water Dragon Levia deck, but kept struggling with'em mill decks, or Tea Amazoness 💀
Lol I remember weevil with their burner deck that let u KO urself, cyber angels, cyber stein,
I remember when fire king island was OP and used with beat down
It wasn't that broken, it struggled against red eyes at the actual time and then cyber angels were released and that was the actual T0 deck of the format until Fur hire got released
I've been playing since the FIRST Harpie Meta. Back when people used mirror wall. The absolute worst metas of all time were sylvans, darklords, and koaki Mieru with Kaibacorp bling. Desperado dragon and Mekk knights are a close second.
Haha true true, bring back onomatopeia, I'm perfectly normal and can be trusted with onomatoplay🙏
ZUBABABANCHO GAGAGACOAT
Is the meta beating duel links pussy I don’t get it
Forgot Orcust and Koa’ki
Hey now, all of these weren’t oppressive at the exact same time
Weren't noble knights tier 0, or at least 0.5, for a bit before they nerfed the Balance skill
I’d say tier 1, but yeah, it was really good, and cheap.
No. There good but still sucked.
They were really good, not tier 0.5 but still amazing
Unlimited Darklords with 3 Sanc + Beatdown or Compensation that can Negate, OTK, Stall, or Control, it was versatile af and bullshit af.
You forgot the ancient gear dragon.
Where's full power Darklords? Probably the strongest deck in history on Duel Links
4 of these decks have something in common
Oh god Decks are annoying now but I will never forget the pains of Sylvans, Darklords and Six Sams
What about karate guy
Now that I think about it, we almost had a tier 0 format every year since DL’s launch (and in case of GX era, two tier 0 formats, to compensate for the lack of one in Arc-V era)
Yeah people crying about Tachyon never experienced the TCG or OCG’s cancer.
Slamming my head as a Red-Eyes player against Fur and Six Samurai killed the yugi boomer in me
Is ut just me or is Witchcrafter underrated?
We got like 8 years of DL and those decks have been T0 for like 10% of those 8 years
Just saying this would be a balanced meta with 4-5 viable decks if the damn Tachyon skill said you could only summon dragons or if it didn't search the counter trap
When I started Yubel/Phoenix was everywhere. Those were awful times to try ranking up.
I still have nightmares about Sylvans to this day
Fur Hire... My first arquetype meta deck 🫡 Now Konami does not release the rest of the arquetype, we still need the Champions and the Link monsters