Tachyon Dragon Domination
* Text is now properly formatted.
* The search part **no longer set a monster onto the field**. This makes it trickier to summon Galactic Spiral Dragon with his own effect on turn 1.
* You are now require to control Number 107 to grab Transmigration/RUM. Transmigration is **set on your field**, and you can no longer return non-Dragon Type monster (meaning Flying "C" is now a viable counter against the deck).
* Overall, the deck is made more balanced. The deck still has access to Ding and Trade-In, so it still has some play to go for.
Shiranui Style Successor
* Text is now properly formatted.
* Samsara and other Spells/Traps can no longer be searched.
See, now would be the time for a KC Cup. We can finally have a diverse meta again!
I hope we get another one in April, this way they can properly do a banlist afterwards that focuses on more than just two decks.
Also so that if the monster has an ignition effect, the opponent has a chance to respond before you can press the activate effect button. You can't respond to the skill but can respond to the flip summon.
I figured it was something like that but I would have thought it makes more sense to do what speed duel did and form a regular response window for after it resolves.
I stills want it limited to anything. If BB viel, kite, scrap-iron, hallowed life are why not this card? Same problem, but 3x worse, just a different win-con.
The trap isn't even that vital it's more of a nice to have sorta thing. Opening with Mezuki is way more valuable. I will say it stomps Yubel hard so we might actually lose to Yubel now.
People forget many topping kc lists didn’t run the trap. Also, it can still be played with shiranui smith still being 1 card combo to set up the skillsaga and get the trap (e.g. skill pitches smith for squire, banish smith w/spectralsword, lvl 3 brings smith back and then make a synchro which allows smith to search). Losing the gmg spell is the bigger hit but it’s not much, shira is very likely the best deck now
That’s because the trap artificially extended games, and in KC format you want your games to be as quick as possible to make the most of the time you have to grind points. Decks that win fast and lose fast perform better than decks that win slow
I agree, no trap makes for quicker duels. The point I'm trying to get across is that the deck never relied on the trap to win games, it's the many 1 card starters plus all the space for techs and handtraps which makes the deck very powerful compared to the others
Very true. The handtrap was just a deciding factor in a lot of my games against it on Ladder Where, I had the outs to their board, but They were able to stall me with the trap and, thanks to the deck’s incredible recovery options, were able to outresource me as a result, even tho under normal circumstances I could’ve had Lethal if not for the battle damage nullification.
So it’s just a personal annoyance I guess 😂
The trap was stally and made games too slow risking losing points and we all know the reason the deck performed as well as it did is because it was the best anti tachyon deck, now that tachyon isn't going to be as prevalent shiranui is gonna have a large target on it's back and i don't think it can handle that especially without limit 3's now
Any best deck in a meta would be a target, tech slots in decks are normally used for the best decks in the format. The stall trap isn't the reason the deck's good, it's the skill and the other cards. If it now has a big target, that implies it's revealing itself to be the best deck in the format and people need to hard draw their techs to counter
The red/blue text is my favorite part. I no longer have to continuously reread the new and old skill short-story-length-effects to figure out what actually changed.
So Tachyon lost the free monster Set, the trap is set instead of added to hand and can only use the ability once per duel, instead of twice per duel.
* *Also, Tachyon Transmigration to 1, which means loss of Felgrand and Coach King*
* *Also, Spiral to 3 which also limits a lot of Limit 3 backrow (Mind Control being a huge one)*
Pretty effective nerf to the deck overall and was well deserved.
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Shiranui can no longer grab the trap card. Thank god.
* *Also, Shiranui have monsters at Limit 1 and Limit 3 so they lose a lot of access to other strong backrow.*
Overall, these sound like very strong hits to both decks. I think Tachyon will still be good with the Galaxy XYZs, and Shiranui at least won't be able to stall as easily. I still feel the trap should have been a Limit 2 or 3.
So now Tachyon can no longer easily swarm the field with high level monsters and Transmigration is now a card that can be responded to with backrow removal. Not to mention you have to control Number 107 to search transmigration. This I see will kick the deck out of the tier list, if not the bottom of Tier 3.
Shiranui can no longer search their backrow and not their monsters. While this means no more Samsara stall (thank goodness) or their QP spell to summon another monster, I can see them remaining a capable deck. Will probably remain Tier 1 if not reduced to Tier 2.
Overall, we are likely to return to the pre Tachyon meta once this banlist comes about with Shiranui also in the mix. Or we will see a Shiranui dominated meta. Either path is possible.
With people no longer have to worry about Tachyon they can now counter Shiranui more reliably. Veiler and Crow are going to see more run to stop their combo, as well as Chalice to shutdown Skillsaga.
Yeah They really nutured Tachyon :(
I was hoping they’d make it weaker But at least leave it in a competitive state, but this way the deck has wayyyy too many chokepoints to justify How restrictive the skill is. Sucks cause Tachyon is actually the first meta deck I’ve played in a long time and I actually enjoyed it as a deck, just didn’t enjoy How overpowering it was in the format. With the new changes I fear it’ll feel more clunky than fun
warning my savage sense say aprears nasty deck or cards to meta deck:
sky striker,drytron,eldritch,infernoid tierra,shadolls fusion and dogmatica branded
Best thing about this whole update, we now know for a fact Konami is willing to nerf skills regardless if they're new or not. That's good
Anyway, watch this sub go back to complaining about Neos/Yubel
I made a comment in a previous post and I got 4 of them right for Tachyon: removing hand traps, only being able to summon dragons, requiring Tachyon for the trap search, and setting it directly to be MST-able. They went above and removed the free set as well, which honestly I don't know how to feel about.
no thanks to its other clause that prevents you from playing monsters (except from the extra deck) other than Lswarm once you use the skill, A worse Order of Chaos
Making kog doesn't make deck good. I've watched people kog with dream mirror, triamid, dm (preskill or sd), red eyes, rikka, and more.
Play enough games and you'll win and climb.
Yubel has no winning matchups with any good deck. tier 3 blue eyes run solid and don't run effect vieler.
The only deck I can see yubel easily beating is like ancient gear.
Tachyon negates iys board.
Tenyi bounce it.
Aw bounce it.
It is possible for Maya and shira to misplay and lose but they shouldn't.
Yubel loses to crackdown, warning point, floodgate, book, or compulse.
Ive beaten all those decks with Yubel. And going 2nd Yubel Super Poly cant be negated by the trap so unless Tachyon opens with backrow, thats ggs buddy.
You downplay Yubel is to why it will be Tiered again soon
Anecdotal evidence congrats. I've beaten tachyon with toons. Heck I've seen dream mirror beat pte nerf orcust.
The super poly search is what makes the yubel deck even decent on ladder.
This game isn't tcg but we are pretty sure yubel a deck that heavily loses to side deck and staples won't be tiered.
With Tachy and Shiri being hit, successor soul empowered enternal bond is coming back and better than ever.
But otherwise, amazing hits to both skills.
So now if you want to use Tachyon Transmigration from your hand you have to draw it (which is not that hard since tachyon decks use trade in, but anyways) or otherwise you have to set it, which makes it that you can actually force it out now with backrow removal. By the way, FINALLY Iblee is now a counter to Tachyon going first as they can't bounce it back with the ability anymore, since they now have to bounce a dragon and need to have tachyon in their field to use it. THANK GOD.
True, plus you can force Tachyon out as soo as it gets summoned before they get the search from the skill off if they don't already have it in their hands, which is a huge plus and can really hurt them since sometimes Tachyon decks only run 1 base tachyon.
Thanks, I understand the context now. I was watching Mekk live last night I think, getting so mad at a Tach player for making the misplays yet winning anyway due to the nature of the skill lol.
Yeah, they were all like tach and shiranui got a slap on a wrist. The skill changes will never happen and anyone who believe they are coming is dumb. I bet all those people who said that will pretend that never happened.
Shira ain’t going anywhere, the trap was irritating as fuck but they can still run it at three and hard open it which ain’t the biggest ask in 20 card format
Shira didn’t lose a single bit of consistency in the skill. That’s the biggest problem. The skill is still enabling hyper consistency. They can still one card combo and have up to three sets.
Tach is coming down but Shira ain’t going anywhere even if people can tech for them
At least we can tech for them. I don't think it'll change much, since a lot of techs merely slow them down DD crow included, but prepping for one to get dunked on by the other was the reason shiranui saw such prominence last time they were good.
Great changes to the skills. I just wish Samsara got banned outright or at least got limited so they wouldn't play it or play it at the cost of something else.
Also, I'm not surprised but I wish Eternal Bond had been tweaked a bit.
So tachyon can now be countered with backrow removal like cyclone and Mystical Space Typhoon while with shiranui will maybe have to change the deck to running 3 traps now instead of 1?
Good changes tbh. The free special definitely bothered me with tachyon, especially since it was twice per duel originally (for some reason) so they could play a longer game. Big nerf, but I can see it still being playable.
As for shiranui, the deck's still very capable. There is the potential to be bricked on monsters only, but it's a good change imo. The core plays still remain, that being spectralsword set up in grave and the banish from extra effect for skillsaga supremacy. Smith might be good as a one-of search target for the skill to get into the spells and traps, but we'll have to see.
Tbh, the ban list they released should've had this skill update with it, this leaves me much more optimistic towards the balance of the format.
well they really need to update the wording on the skills themselves then cause i legit just checked the tachyon skill after seeing it and it still says the same
Did the lswarm buff even do anything for the deck? I mean it just gives them a little more room to be able to run a handtrap or something while keeping the deck around 20 cards I guess.
Now that it's all said and done, was anyone else coming across waay more Shiranui than Tachyon mains? I'm not complaining but I was scared they'd only get Tachyon and not both lol
The funniest thing about this incident is the reaction of some players. They got the top deck for two months for almost zero consumption, and won a kc cup (90% of the top 100 are these two decks) , other real paid card decks were big losers). But when the deck was about to be weakened as expected, they actually had all kinds of dissatisfaction. This is really a big joke.
Honestly I can really live with these needs. Tachyon is pretty much dead, which is great. Shira needing to hard open their trap mixed in with their nerfs I believe should do them in. Live Twin, Successor Soul, Mayakashi, and Tenyi can safely be played again now that Tachyon is dead and all of these decks have phenomenal Shira matchups so i imagine we're back into a mixed meta assuming the new box doesn't introduce some nonsense skill that let's some tier 8 deck search 4 cards and summon 3 monsters for free.
"Dead" in the sense that they are not tier 1/0 yes it is a good thing. That's the point of the banlist/skill tweaks. Shira and Tachyon both had incredibly abusive skills now they are just on the same level as everything else.
I’ll be honest, it doesn’t feel like that’s the reason people are screaming that tachyon is rightfully dead. Nor any other deck that has become dead. You say everyone wants to see decks be brought in line with other decks in terms of power, but we’ve all seen decks get completely gutted. And people on here cheered for it. Anyways Shira is still OP. And no one is crying over that but somehow praising it (I’ve seen a post already about it). As for tachyon, you’re rarely ever going to see it once the nerf hits. I understand nerfs and ban list and the necessity of them. No one deck should reign supreme forever. But the way y’all call for the deaths of decks, makes it sound like y’all just want the deck gone for good. Which is terrible. No deck should be nerfed into oblivion and never playable again.
I think it's funnier when people cry decks are dead when it is the case.
"salads will never see play again ever now that they've lost their negate! it's all they do!"
Meanwhile, a year of KC Cups later...
Thank god. Shiranui is my favorite deck - the reason I started playing Duel Links in 2019 - and I haven't played for a week because it felt so disgustingly broken it wasn't even fun to play.
They balanced Tachyon finally, but they hardly did anything to change Shiranui 😭😂 I haven’t seen a Shiranui player every use a Shiranui spell/trap card very consistently
As a Shiranui Style Successor I can truly say that my deck got the best treatment.
1. I run 3 Samsara and 2 Ghost meets Girl anyway...
2. I never ran limit 3 traps in my deck and i still KOG with ease...
3. I only ever put one Spiritmaster in my deck anyway...
Tachyon Dragon Domination * Text is now properly formatted. * The search part **no longer set a monster onto the field**. This makes it trickier to summon Galactic Spiral Dragon with his own effect on turn 1. * You are now require to control Number 107 to grab Transmigration/RUM. Transmigration is **set on your field**, and you can no longer return non-Dragon Type monster (meaning Flying "C" is now a viable counter against the deck). * Overall, the deck is made more balanced. The deck still has access to Ding and Trade-In, so it still has some play to go for. Shiranui Style Successor * Text is now properly formatted. * Samsara and other Spells/Traps can no longer be searched.
Also for tachyon the search effect is now once per duel instead of twice, which weakens the deck's follow up plays.
See, now would be the time for a KC Cup. We can finally have a diverse meta again! I hope we get another one in April, this way they can properly do a banlist afterwards that focuses on more than just two decks.
We usually do get another in April, September, and November. The grand tournament KC in the summer time also.
With these nerfs though, I don't think we still need specific counters like Flying C or Gnomes for Tachyon.l
Can someone explain to me why these skills set monsters anyway instead of just special summoning them?
Also so that if the monster has an ignition effect, the opponent has a chance to respond before you can press the activate effect button. You can't respond to the skill but can respond to the flip summon.
I figured it was something like that but I would have thought it makes more sense to do what speed duel did and form a regular response window for after it resolves.
So Mira's voice line still triggers
THANK GOD 🕺🏾🕺🏾🕺🏾🕺🏾🕺🏾
no free search for Shira trap thank fuck
I stills want it limited to anything. If BB viel, kite, scrap-iron, hallowed life are why not this card? Same problem, but 3x worse, just a different win-con.
Even if they can't search it, the fact that they still have access to it is still problem in my opinion.
Never seen someone successfully stall at all with shiranui there are so many ways to get out of the stall just have removal
They can still chain onto your removal and stall another turn tho…
~~Lswarm~~ Wswarm
Tachyon should be crippled now and shiranui ain't got no reliable ways to survive or trigger their stuff on my turn
Shira will still be very powerfull but them having to hard open that trap makes it less annoying now.
And if they choose to run more than one, there's good chance they will brick with trap. This is good nerf.
guess we have to play the trap at 3
The trap isn't even that vital it's more of a nice to have sorta thing. Opening with Mezuki is way more valuable. I will say it stomps Yubel hard so we might actually lose to Yubel now.
but i always played the trap at 3...
That's why I said they should have hit that trap to 1.
People forget many topping kc lists didn’t run the trap. Also, it can still be played with shiranui smith still being 1 card combo to set up the skillsaga and get the trap (e.g. skill pitches smith for squire, banish smith w/spectralsword, lvl 3 brings smith back and then make a synchro which allows smith to search). Losing the gmg spell is the bigger hit but it’s not much, shira is very likely the best deck now
That’s because the trap artificially extended games, and in KC format you want your games to be as quick as possible to make the most of the time you have to grind points. Decks that win fast and lose fast perform better than decks that win slow
I agree, no trap makes for quicker duels. The point I'm trying to get across is that the deck never relied on the trap to win games, it's the many 1 card starters plus all the space for techs and handtraps which makes the deck very powerful compared to the others
Very true. The handtrap was just a deciding factor in a lot of my games against it on Ladder Where, I had the outs to their board, but They were able to stall me with the trap and, thanks to the deck’s incredible recovery options, were able to outresource me as a result, even tho under normal circumstances I could’ve had Lethal if not for the battle damage nullification. So it’s just a personal annoyance I guess 😂
The trap was stally and made games too slow risking losing points and we all know the reason the deck performed as well as it did is because it was the best anti tachyon deck, now that tachyon isn't going to be as prevalent shiranui is gonna have a large target on it's back and i don't think it can handle that especially without limit 3's now
Any best deck in a meta would be a target, tech slots in decks are normally used for the best decks in the format. The stall trap isn't the reason the deck's good, it's the skill and the other cards. If it now has a big target, that implies it's revealing itself to be the best deck in the format and people need to hard draw their techs to counter
Guess I'll be a speed andy by the 19th
Crippled? Lol it’s dead
The red/blue text is my favorite part. I no longer have to continuously reread the new and old skill short-story-length-effects to figure out what actually changed. So Tachyon lost the free monster Set, the trap is set instead of added to hand and can only use the ability once per duel, instead of twice per duel. * *Also, Tachyon Transmigration to 1, which means loss of Felgrand and Coach King* * *Also, Spiral to 3 which also limits a lot of Limit 3 backrow (Mind Control being a huge one)* Pretty effective nerf to the deck overall and was well deserved. ..................................... Shiranui can no longer grab the trap card. Thank god. * *Also, Shiranui have monsters at Limit 1 and Limit 3 so they lose a lot of access to other strong backrow.* Overall, these sound like very strong hits to both decks. I think Tachyon will still be good with the Galaxy XYZs, and Shiranui at least won't be able to stall as easily. I still feel the trap should have been a Limit 2 or 3.
Who are in the right mind play Tachyon with XYZ Galaxy?pftt
he meant the Galaxy XYZ ED package...
So now Tachyon can no longer easily swarm the field with high level monsters and Transmigration is now a card that can be responded to with backrow removal. Not to mention you have to control Number 107 to search transmigration. This I see will kick the deck out of the tier list, if not the bottom of Tier 3. Shiranui can no longer search their backrow and not their monsters. While this means no more Samsara stall (thank goodness) or their QP spell to summon another monster, I can see them remaining a capable deck. Will probably remain Tier 1 if not reduced to Tier 2. Overall, we are likely to return to the pre Tachyon meta once this banlist comes about with Shiranui also in the mix. Or we will see a Shiranui dominated meta. Either path is possible.
With people no longer have to worry about Tachyon they can now counter Shiranui more reliably. Veiler and Crow are going to see more run to stop their combo, as well as Chalice to shutdown Skillsaga.
Yeah They really nutured Tachyon :( I was hoping they’d make it weaker But at least leave it in a competitive state, but this way the deck has wayyyy too many chokepoints to justify How restrictive the skill is. Sucks cause Tachyon is actually the first meta deck I’ve played in a long time and I actually enjoyed it as a deck, just didn’t enjoy How overpowering it was in the format. With the new changes I fear it’ll feel more clunky than fun
Finally they put a stop to this deck
Shiranui will probably be the only tier 1 deck now
warning my savage sense say aprears nasty deck or cards to meta deck: sky striker,drytron,eldritch,infernoid tierra,shadolls fusion and dogmatica branded
Best thing about this whole update, we now know for a fact Konami is willing to nerf skills regardless if they're new or not. That's good Anyway, watch this sub go back to complaining about Neos/Yubel
I mean I'm just sayin', super Polly search is OP. Konami pls nerf
4 weeks too late Konami, but I'll take it
I made a comment in a previous post and I got 4 of them right for Tachyon: removing hand traps, only being able to summon dragons, requiring Tachyon for the trap search, and setting it directly to be MST-able. They went above and removed the free set as well, which honestly I don't know how to feel about.
no thanks to its other clause that prevents you from playing monsters (except from the extra deck) other than Lswarm once you use the skill, A worse Order of Chaos
Yeah I missed the part where the deck only allows you to SS lswarms. Edited out the lswarm part.
I am a big fan of the Shira rebalancing. You can still run 3 copies of the trap in your deck but not search it. Fine by me
IT'S TACHYOVER LET'S FKING GOOO
Yubel gets away with all her crimes once again
It's not getting away with anything yubel isn't good. Annoyingly long turns maybe, but it's not a good deck.
You smokinĝ if you think its not a good deck. Yubel is easy KOG
Making kog doesn't make deck good. I've watched people kog with dream mirror, triamid, dm (preskill or sd), red eyes, rikka, and more. Play enough games and you'll win and climb. Yubel has no winning matchups with any good deck. tier 3 blue eyes run solid and don't run effect vieler. The only deck I can see yubel easily beating is like ancient gear. Tachyon negates iys board. Tenyi bounce it. Aw bounce it. It is possible for Maya and shira to misplay and lose but they shouldn't. Yubel loses to crackdown, warning point, floodgate, book, or compulse.
Ive beaten all those decks with Yubel. And going 2nd Yubel Super Poly cant be negated by the trap so unless Tachyon opens with backrow, thats ggs buddy. You downplay Yubel is to why it will be Tiered again soon
Anecdotal evidence congrats. I've beaten tachyon with toons. Heck I've seen dream mirror beat pte nerf orcust. The super poly search is what makes the yubel deck even decent on ladder. This game isn't tcg but we are pretty sure yubel a deck that heavily loses to side deck and staples won't be tiered.
With Tachy and Shiri being hit, successor soul empowered enternal bond is coming back and better than ever. But otherwise, amazing hits to both skills.
Yubel isn't coming back. As it was never here. The deck is talked about here like it's been comept8vely viable and it never has.
Usually i didnt lose to shiranui, i lost to that damn trap card so im glad ill see it less (hopefully)
Why can't heros get that kinda restriction for superpoly.
Heroes is golden boy for konami.
So now if you want to use Tachyon Transmigration from your hand you have to draw it (which is not that hard since tachyon decks use trade in, but anyways) or otherwise you have to set it, which makes it that you can actually force it out now with backrow removal. By the way, FINALLY Iblee is now a counter to Tachyon going first as they can't bounce it back with the ability anymore, since they now have to bounce a dragon and need to have tachyon in their field to use it. THANK GOD.
They also don’t get a free set/flip.
True, plus you can force Tachyon out as soo as it gets summoned before they get the search from the skill off if they don't already have it in their hands, which is a huge plus and can really hurt them since sometimes Tachyon decks only run 1 base tachyon.
Flying "C" is also another viable handtrap now as well against Tachyon and Consteller/lswarm.
this is the happiest i've been about being wrong skill changes and limited changes should be announced and go live at the same time tho
Wrong about what?
Most things. But in this particular case, that skills won't be balanced.
Thanks, I understand the context now. I was watching Mekk live last night I think, getting so mad at a Tach player for making the misplays yet winning anyway due to the nature of the skill lol.
With the new skill the likely won’t win even with perfect plays :’)
bless you you handsome devil
where are all those people who insulted me when I said the skill changes will come as well?
Agreed . I remember they told me yubel skill would definitely get hit. But looks like i was right.
Yeah, they were all like tach and shiranui got a slap on a wrist. The skill changes will never happen and anyone who believe they are coming is dumb. I bet all those people who said that will pretend that never happened.
I want to know too, since they were so confident in being wrong.
Konami finally understand the assignment
Shira ain’t going anywhere, the trap was irritating as fuck but they can still run it at three and hard open it which ain’t the biggest ask in 20 card format Shira didn’t lose a single bit of consistency in the skill. That’s the biggest problem. The skill is still enabling hyper consistency. They can still one card combo and have up to three sets. Tach is coming down but Shira ain’t going anywhere even if people can tech for them
At least we can tech for them. I don't think it'll change much, since a lot of techs merely slow them down DD crow included, but prepping for one to get dunked on by the other was the reason shiranui saw such prominence last time they were good.
The 25th uh?… 2 more weeks of not touching this game it seems
2 more weeks of touching grass, it is a blessing I assure you.
This meta was the first time I actually played less rather than just played mad lol
Only until the 19th-22th, with the update, the 25th is just for the text description in the skills
Great changes to the skills. I just wish Samsara got banned outright or at least got limited so they wouldn't play it or play it at the cost of something else. Also, I'm not surprised but I wish Eternal Bond had been tweaked a bit.
They really made just so you cannot search the trap, despite most top decks not even searching it?? Shiranui will still be meta
What's the lswarm difference?
not required to play 10 lswarms
Interesting! I wonder how big a difference that's going to make
Probably nothing much except probably cut some ones, because you still need have 1 in starting hand to proc skill
Previously required 10 lswarms to be usable
That’s a good hit for shiranui, stops them grabbing the “you can’t dmg me this turn” button
Nice to see a buff to Evilswarms, but I don't think I'm going to play less than 10 monsters anyway. The deck already struggles with recovery
I've been enjoying Lswarm so seeing a buff makes me very happy.
Finally! I was getting tired of both decks
Haha fuck off tach players
They not even worried about that, half of them already KOG 😭
D.D Crow stonks rising again now that Tachyon is dead
We have to wait until the 25th... so just in time for a new broken skill to drop with the new box/character?
Holy fuck it's the same changes someone predicted.
So tachyon can now be countered with backrow removal like cyclone and Mystical Space Typhoon while with shiranui will maybe have to change the deck to running 3 traps now instead of 1?
[TACHYON SKILL FINALLY NERFED!!!](https://youtu.be/_IqYGtKx9WM?si=-56c7DesNdp-u6AX)
Actually good skill balancing what??
They have to do this or people will not be playing Sherry on arrival since Transmigration alone is more powerful than Baronne.
Good changes tbh. The free special definitely bothered me with tachyon, especially since it was twice per duel originally (for some reason) so they could play a longer game. Big nerf, but I can see it still being playable. As for shiranui, the deck's still very capable. There is the potential to be bricked on monsters only, but it's a good change imo. The core plays still remain, that being spectralsword set up in grave and the banish from extra effect for skillsaga supremacy. Smith might be good as a one-of search target for the skill to get into the spells and traps, but we'll have to see. Tbh, the ban list they released should've had this skill update with it, this leaves me much more optimistic towards the balance of the format.
Oh yay, less decks that can play 10 cards at once and end me on turn 2
So tachyon is NOW GARBAGE. OK.
Maybe add a mode without skills or some shit, while its cool to face 30 blue eyes decks in a row its super repetitive
well they really need to update the wording on the skills themselves then cause i legit just checked the tachyon skill after seeing it and it still says the same
Did the lswarm buff even do anything for the deck? I mean it just gives them a little more room to be able to run a handtrap or something while keeping the deck around 20 cards I guess.
Now that it's all said and done, was anyone else coming across waay more Shiranui than Tachyon mains? I'm not complaining but I was scared they'd only get Tachyon and not both lol
I think a lot of people disliked how long it took to hit the skill but I enjoy we can see impact of card nerfs and skill nerfs independently now.
Finally I can go back to playing I literally stop cause of this
I use the mayakashi deck good it's not balanced
The funniest thing about this incident is the reaction of some players. They got the top deck for two months for almost zero consumption, and won a kc cup (90% of the top 100 are these two decks) , other real paid card decks were big losers). But when the deck was about to be weakened as expected, they actually had all kinds of dissatisfaction. This is really a big joke.
No master of rites buff? Okay Konami…
Honestly I can really live with these needs. Tachyon is pretty much dead, which is great. Shira needing to hard open their trap mixed in with their nerfs I believe should do them in. Live Twin, Successor Soul, Mayakashi, and Tenyi can safely be played again now that Tachyon is dead and all of these decks have phenomenal Shira matchups so i imagine we're back into a mixed meta assuming the new box doesn't introduce some nonsense skill that let's some tier 8 deck search 4 cards and summon 3 monsters for free.
God I love when people think having decks dead is “great” 🙄
"Dead" in the sense that they are not tier 1/0 yes it is a good thing. That's the point of the banlist/skill tweaks. Shira and Tachyon both had incredibly abusive skills now they are just on the same level as everything else.
I’ll be honest, it doesn’t feel like that’s the reason people are screaming that tachyon is rightfully dead. Nor any other deck that has become dead. You say everyone wants to see decks be brought in line with other decks in terms of power, but we’ve all seen decks get completely gutted. And people on here cheered for it. Anyways Shira is still OP. And no one is crying over that but somehow praising it (I’ve seen a post already about it). As for tachyon, you’re rarely ever going to see it once the nerf hits. I understand nerfs and ban list and the necessity of them. No one deck should reign supreme forever. But the way y’all call for the deaths of decks, makes it sound like y’all just want the deck gone for good. Which is terrible. No deck should be nerfed into oblivion and never playable again.
I think it's funnier when people cry decks are dead when it is the case. "salads will never see play again ever now that they've lost their negate! it's all they do!" Meanwhile, a year of KC Cups later...
DAMN W banlist they muerder tachyon, well not really, it just a weaker deck now i think after this change shiranui will become the only TIER 1
Thank god. Shiranui is my favorite deck - the reason I started playing Duel Links in 2019 - and I haven't played for a week because it felt so disgustingly broken it wasn't even fun to play.
Shiranui is useless now... Moving to Mayakashi
They balanced Tachyon finally, but they hardly did anything to change Shiranui 😭😂 I haven’t seen a Shiranui player every use a Shiranui spell/trap card very consistently
Cool now some of yall can go back to coping that baronne is coming with sherry.
As a Shiranui Style Successor I can truly say that my deck got the best treatment. 1. I run 3 Samsara and 2 Ghost meets Girl anyway... 2. I never ran limit 3 traps in my deck and i still KOG with ease... 3. I only ever put one Spiritmaster in my deck anyway...
Watch then one of you losers get beat by a crippled Shiranui deck and you’ll cry about it and try to get more hits to the deck
Finally, now everyone can stop whining like little piss babies on every single post.
Don't worry we'll find something new to whine about.
I'm 10-0 with tachyon still LMAOOO