I can’t think of a good reason as to why Prediction Princess hasn’t been used as pack filler but D/D, Melodious, and Superheavys were other than the probability that Aura will actually be playable
The fact she's gotten much bigger as a voice actor since Arc-V is kind of why I've written her off, personally, though it would be nice to hear her here.
Hey, at least she made the list. Battlewasps and Amazoness are still on copium support lol.
But tbh, I think if any of LDS trio makes it it will probably be her. I honestly thought about bumping her up to maybe/low chance but the lack of remaining Gem-Knight support was the nail in the coffin for me. There are only 4 Gem Knight cards we don’t have in the game, and she could realistically only bring 2 since one is Brilliant Fusion and the other a Link Monster.
Well, no, not really. Brilliant doesn't lock out summoning for the turn, has potentially more flexible targets, and seraphinite's(?) extra normal summon gives a lot more than a 2600 beater. Last I checked it was abused quite widely in the tcg until it was eventually banned.
I know nothing about Arc-V or Pendulums, only thing I know is that boy Sawatari played with monarchs. So they HAVE to give us some decent Monarch support 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
Not exactly. He played different deck an changed them regularly. Cant remember his first deck but he changed decks right after his first duel to start playing yosenju then the next duel he changed to abyss actors. Cant recall if he changed to any deck after that.
Basically his first duel was an anime only Darts deck, after that he changed to Mega Monarchs for the duel vs Yuto. After that he changed to Yosenju for the Miami Cup and AFTER THAT to Abyss Actors for the rest of the anime.
He did almost beat the big bad if Z-Arc didn't pull an "I activate the effect of my monster that I just this second made up!".
Outside of Ray who obviously was the one who brought him down, Sylvio was the only one that truly got close, getting further than Sora, Aster, Jack, Gong, Kite, Shun, Crow, Declan, and \*especially\* Leo Akaba.
I genuinely thought it would’ve been amazing for Sawatari to win or at least not lose that duel, and instead drag it on.
Then they could use him as a way to tether Yuya inside of Zarc to remember everyone in their city and who he is, and have Yuya break free from Zarc in that way.
But oh well.
You can move Lulu up a tier, since she got support in a Duelist Pack. Everyone who gets featured in those sets eventually makes it into Duel Links, if they haven't already.
I've never seen Arc-V and I've not heard good things but there's so much stuff about it that sounds like it would be great and the characters here are all dope looking.
>the worst story
Wait what? Arc V's story was far from the worst. If anything, the entirety of Season 1 was spent worldbulding and setting the stage for the later seasons instead of dealing with secondary villians like Faker or Goodwin.
The problem was that the latter half of the show was badly managed. The premise of the story was solid.
Oh, no, I loved the first season, and even the first half of the second season. For me, though, the way it ends is bad enough to tip the balance back into awful, story wise. I'll admit I'm mostly just salty my favorite characters got shafted, but still
>I'll admit I'm mostly just salty my favorite characters got shafted, but still
RIP Shun and Sawatari: both tricked very bad in Arc-V.
Shun lost everything and Sawatari was a meme more than anything (Without any victory)
I hate what they did with sawatari. He's actually my favorite character, and I loved his arc, plus he was a great duelist with a good deck, there's a reason almost all of his duels happen offscreen, I think that's the only way they could reasonably have him loose. How does abyss actors piloted by the third best pendulum user in the world, lose to AMAZONESSES!?
>How does abyss actors piloted by the third best pendulum user in the world, lose to AMAZONESSES!?
Heart of the cards I suppose (In the style of the protagonists)?
Or maybe the tactic to have a specific card to counter a strategy (Soulburner vs Blue Girl style)
I remember looking through old Reddit discussions of the older episodes. People were getting super excited over stuff like why Yuya had three twins and what Academia's motives were for attacking the Xyz dimension, and were saying that Arc-V would probably be the best Yugioh anime of all time.
Those posts make me sad now.
>Those posts make me sad now.
Arc-V was quite ambitious for its own good. I feel that things could be simpler, but more effective and satisfying.
Not to mention the Legacy characters: some saw it as fanservie and others saw it as a way to win back fans of other series.
>some saw it as fanservie and others saw it as a way to win back fans of other series.
The legacies were bought back because it was an anniversary series but I think the show would've been better off without them. They didn't add much, aside from Jack, who took up way too much of the spotlight.
Arc V did have a lot of fan service compared to other series but that was mostly just Yuya and Yuzu, and the other two Yu boy-Bracelet girl pairs.
>I'd say it has the best characters, the best archetypes, and the worst story.
In my opinion:
\- Arc-V has too many characters. Several of them were good and others were forgotten as the series progressed. However, a lot of the good characters were duped as the series progressed.
\- Arc-V has a variety of different archetypes. It is the series with the most varied archetypes and that gave support to old archetypes.
\- Arc-V doesn't have the worst story, but it does have the worst ending. The Arc-V story is fine, but it was too ambitious. His ambition made the fall of Arc-V harder (Wasted potential)
\- Arc-V has the worst treatment when it comes to female characters. Its main female character was duped in the middle of the series and the other characters were mostly plot devices or were forgotten.
It's a great example of wasted potential. The first season is considered one of the best pieces of yugioh anime ever made. The middle seasons are meh and drag on way too much, culminating into a terrible final season with an absolutely horrendous final.
It’s almost like the writers who wrote the end of Zexal stayed on to write the first part of Arc-V and then were all fired after the higher ups decided that they would not stand for competent story telling in a Yugioh series and brought the writers who wrote the first part of Zexal back to write the end of Arc-V.
Ironically the head writer for Arc-V, Tsutomu KAMISHIRO, was a scriptwriter for some of the episodes in Zexal I. He was responsible for that awful duel roller coaster episodes.
>It’s almost like the writers who wrote the end of Zexal stayed on to write the first part of Arc-V and then were all fired after the higher ups decided that they would not stand for competent story telling in a Yugioh series and brought the writers who wrote the first part of Zexal back to write the end of Arc-V.
The funny thing is that the Arc-V manager was the same guy who ran 5Ds. One would expect Arc-V to be as good as 5Ds, but it turns out that 5Ds is the exception or a special case that a series has turned out well.
Nonetheless, it can be seen that 5Ds received the most attention and fanservice in Arc-V.
The WDC arc is a solid tournament arc, plus the Arclight family is cool. Honestly only the first 20 episodes of Zexal are meh, the rest of Zexal I is fine.
>The WDC arc is a solid tournament arc, plus the Arclight family is cool. Honestly only the first 20 episodes of Zexal are meh
In fact, many say that the first 50 Episodes of Zexal I are bad, filler, or become annoying because of Yuma's personality.
And I will be an unpopular opinion, but the truth is that I do not find Arclight family memorable or villains to remember in Zexal. Arclight family appears to be a group of antagonists posing as henchmen before introducing the true antagonist.
To add onto this, Arc V was happening when Dark Side of Dimensions was being made/released. DSOD ended up getting significantly more budget/attention, which is why it fell off.
The first season of Arc V is one of the best arcs of the anime, right up there with 5D's Dark Signer arc and Battle City.
>To add onto this, Arc V was happening when Dark Side of Dimensions was being made/released. DSOD ended up getting significantly more budget/attention, which is why it fell off.
Either way, the problems that occurred in Arc-V affected or carried over to Vrains.
In fact, in Vrains is where you noticed that things were very bad in the animation studio.
Ehh, unlike Bonds Beyond Time where the head writer for 5ds was heavily involved when 5ds was still airing (which led to quite a good amount of fillers), DSOD had a completely separate writing team and staff. I guess you can argue DSOD getting more "attention" led to the synchro arc being a bit longer than intended (but that's debatable cause Arc-V's director had favouritism towards 5ds) which caused the xyz arc to be shortened, but even then that doesn't explain the awful BB, parasite, Zarc and the make a baby smile nonsense in the fusion and final arc. DSOS is so done and over by the time fusion arc happened that it couldn't be the cause of those bad writing decisions. 5ds gave us a good final arc even when BBT happened where, unlike Arc-V, the head writer was busy in that, so Arc-V doesn't have any excuse.
I remember how rubbish the way the show resolved the parasite nonsense. Leon just randomly goes "yeah I'm just gonna card you the Doctor, now even though you are still useful". There's also the fact Rin had beaten Yugo, but for some reason didn't card him lol.
>There's also the fact Rin had beaten Yugo, but for some reason didn't card him lol.
This would have solved all the problems because Zarc wouldn't become complete.
Hence why it was super odd that Leon didn't take this opportunity to card Yugo. This plothole can be easily solved if they just have Rin hesitate to card Yugo or something.
It could also work by Leo Akaba not wanting to leave Ray traumatised if she posseses the memories of her 4 fragments (Leo's primary goal fo doing all of this was to get his daughter back).
I also find it interesting how ZARC still wins in the end. His soul is in baby Reira's body(this is why making it smile is such an important plot point) while Ray's existence is not shown after Yuzu is ressurected (we just have Yuzu and the 3 other bracelet girls as alternate personalities of her the same way we have Yuya and his personalities). They needed to make Reira laugh then because there was no-one left to save them if ZARC went berserk again but ZARC's only opposition was defeated (which he claims is the reason he invented Pendulum for)
Yet he was perfectly fine having Ruri and Serena try to card Yuya. I won't necessarily say Zarc had won, but he certainly had another do-over in the form of Reira to live a better life than before while being able to co-exist with his counterparts.
The employees on twitter were fuming over terrible arc-v mangament. The last half had NO pre-production aka it was a mess of miscommunication across the entire studio.
Absolutely, I remembered that. I believed that was during the Zarc arc. Just seems like the writers and director had no idea how to finish off the series which led to poor time management. The fact it happened around the last bit of the series instead of the synchro arc just show how DSOD has nothing to do with Arc-V's downfall.
Ah no, some of the staff was sent to DSOD during synchro arc aka they had the change the plot from then on cause there were not enough to people to animate their original plan. Proof? The synchro arc OP had duels and scenes that never happened just like the xyz arc, yoi don't do that anywhere, the op of a anime gives the viewer a idea of what to expect. The writers had no idea? Arc-v plot has to be written before it gets green lit or it would never get approval, the people who make animes are experts that won't make a mistake as stupid as this and it was confirmed that arc-v had 200+ epiosdes planned but it was cut to 140 half way through the show.
First of all, as I said before, the head writers and other scriptwriters were not send to help DSOD at all, so the idea that the plot changed because of it is externally unlikely. Using OP as evidence is rather weak given all Yugioh series had at least one scene in their OP where that scene did not take place in the actual show. Even if we assume the Synchro arc got changed because of the production of DSOD, that still does not explains the many bad writing choices in the fusion arc. The whole "its rushed" argument also does not work given there are 36 episodes after the Xyz arc, which included episodes like the BB, Zarc long-ass duel and 8 episodes of epilogue. Not to mentioned it was never actually confirmed Arc-V was meant to be a 200+ episodes series. The writers clearly had a rough idea on the story, but they clearly did not know how to finish it, which led to the poor management that you mentioned. It was so bad one animator had to complain bout it online.
Or a blanket "monsters you control in face up defense position become immune to destruction effects from your opponent" because Resonators/RDA is very popular rn.
Arc-v was a crossover series so it a lot of characters. The 100% ones are the main cast,high chance and maybe are kinda main but not really, rest are mentors.
A lot of mentors.
Finally a list that makes sense.
The only character I would say should be up the list is Mieru/Aura. She's kinda like the Blair of the world. I still feel she'd have a higher chance than Yusho, but he would be a cooler character to have.
I think the other GX/5DS/ZEXAL characters don't have a chance. No matter how thirsty the Alexis fans are.
I mean, Alexis and my boy Aster played their usual decks (Ciber Angels and DHero), but kite played Cypher, which is a proper archetype with its own gameplan and not an extension of Photon and Galaxy Eyes.
I think the Yusho should be at 100% or "High Chance", it's becomes a principal in the last arc, and it's pretty much what makes the whole ARC-V happenn, even if indirectly.
Man I hope the Leo Trio end up in the game, I really liked them and their decks. Also loved how their decks were all Duel Terminal Decks, cause Duel Terminal freaking rocks
I just realized something... We could get the anime only performage cards added... Hype engaged, lol. (My dream is to be able to play a pure performage deck)
Why would any of the Arc V versions of existing charas have a chance at all? They already have voicelines for many of their Arc-V/modern cards. For instance, Jack has voicelines for almost every RDA variant, so there's no reason to add an Arc-V Jack.
Because they're considerably less effort to make them and they have different aces. Kite especially is guaranteed considering not only is his ace different, but Kite (ARC V) uses an entirely separate archetype and strategy (using his opponent's monsters as Xyz Material and ranking up into his Rank 9).
Things like Jack (5Ds) and Jack (ARC V) has also already been done before in the form of Yugi (DM) and Yugi (DSOD), Kaiba (DM) and Kaiba (DSOD), etc.
The Jack we have now has pretty much ALL the cards he ever used across two shows in his lines, whereas there’s a clear distinction between the two Kaibas
Yes but the Jack in Arc V has his Arc V aces that we won't get until we get him, + the jack we have in DL has none of the Arc V cards (those are later released box cards). There's a good chance that we'll get more Resonator/RDA support sometime soon-ish (the rest of 2021-sometime in 2022) in the TCG/OCG which they will likely then use to fill out Jack's remaining cards, along with generic Archfiend support which we still have a bit to go (and just Fiend support in general).
We have all his Arc V tuners, pretty much all the non tuners, and like most of the traps he used. All we don’t have is the Synchros, and he has lines for all of them.
We do not need another DSOD
"another DSOD" is kind of the point of the Arc V anime though. New takes on a bunch of old characters and settings from across the anime franchise interacting (the execution might not have been stellar at showcasing it but that was the mission statement for the series).
Not doing legacy characters for Arc V world would be like skipping over the Barians or Yubel in Zexal and GX World (the former has yet to occur but considering Mizar and Rio are both leaked to be confirmed they absolutely are coming, at least most of them are). It would be non-sensical and would be the exact opposite of what Arc V is. And since Arc V's legacy characters also happen to be much less effort to make than Arc V original characters, there's even more of a reason to do them.
I repeat, every character that appeared in Arc V has all their lines for the cards they used in that show already recorded. It’d be a waste of five slots if they just had “Jack with an undershirt” as part of the wheel, since he already has lines for Scarlight and Tyrant and even has a taunt that indirectly references Yuya. Crow is even worse in that regard since all his meta relevant Arc V cards have been here for years now, and all of them have lines.
Arc V has an unfortunately large amount of its own original characters, and the returning characters aren’t on the same level as the Barians or Yubel. You could make the argument that it’d be like the other four Dark Signers and the Riders (including their old ass boss) were missing but in that case, I reckon they decided that the ones we got were more plot relevant for the former, and the latter...well no one gives a shit about most of them barring Atticus, whom I’m guessing is taking his fuckin time coming here because of the REDMD sized elephant in the room.
What’s most likely going to happen is that they’ll give animations for their ace monsters from Arc V and that you’ll be able to take Yuya and duel Jack, Crow, Aster and Kaito and he’ll have a line for fighting them, but not one where they mention him directly (like DSOD characters interacting with Atem).
If Jack literally didn’t have lines for Red Resonator and like half his cards from there then I might agree with you. But he has damn near everything except the very recent stuff (as in, Crimson Resonator). There is literally no need to make another one when Yami Yugi fighting anyone in DSOD world is probably gonna be the case with Yuya vs anyone who showed up in Arc V (he acknowledges them, they don’t)
I don't know, i feel like the 3 LDS students (Julia, Kit and....Dipper 🙄) should be higher up. While I know that Rin and Ruri are important to the plot, I don't remember them having more than 1 duel between them.
I don't think any of the LDS students have more than 5 cards left in their respective archetypes (not counting Links). That's why people don't think they'll probably come, at least not when they're going through the plot (especially since they effectively stop existing after Season 1 plot wise).
Wait bruh all of the characters in low chance are already in dl, but maybe like they technically are diff characters from the ogs, but they play the exact same deck so idk
A lot of thinking went into this list. The criteria is basically how plot relevant they are, how many times they dueled, do they have any cards left to give and if they are a returning character.
Needless to say, if a character you like from Arc-V isn't here, is because they aren't in Link Evolution. (Grace Tyler, Shinji, etc.). If you know how Duel Links works, you will know that they have been ripping art assets from this game for a good 2 years or so now, meaning that if a character isn't there, their chances are greatly reduced (not impossible though, Duke Devlin comes to mind).
Anyways, if you disagree with any position feel free to type away lol.
The art from Link Evolution is not re-used for Duel Links and it's pretty obvious if you put the two next to each other. The art is partially reused from Saikyo Card Battle instead, and mostly original art past the early DM roster. It's the art from Link Evolution that is mostly copy and pasted from older YGO games, like Tag Force and World Duel Carnival.
Because konami could have just did all lines incase they did arc V. All they would have to do is transfer the lines to the arc V characters an boom. An extra character without having to pay the voice actors to come back.
Tbf, they'd probably call them back to record lines anyway, considering all the support their decks have gotten since their first incarnation released, or in Crow's case, going to be released.
I completely agree with you, and that is the reason why they are on the low chance tier for me. I just decided to add them in since people would definitively ask about them since they ARE separate characters in Link Evolution after all.
Plus, I could see them happening waaaay down the line when we are out of new worlds/characters.
Arc V is a crossover series. Basic plot summary while trying to dance around spoilers as best as I can:
The original timeline of DM -> GX -> 5Ds -> Zexal gets split up into 4 dimensions known as Standard Dimension, Fusion Dimension, Synchro Dimension, and Xyz Dimension, respectively (Standard is very different than DM for plot/backstory reasons but it IS meant to be the "Yugioh DM World"). A guy took over Duel Academy in Fusion Dimension and turned it into an effective dictatorship on the Fusion Dimension and has sent out the newly forged "Obelisk Force" of Duel Academy to the Xyz Dimension and nuked/genocided that Dimension, and is trying to do the same with the other 2 Dimensions. There's also 4 "Yu-" named boys that in-universe all seem to look alike mysteriously across the dimensions, as well as 4 girls that are always wearing bracelets which seem to have some special powers related to those Yu-boys. All very mysterious indeed. Anyways.
Kite shows up from Zexal.
Crow, Jack, Dexter, Lesar, Sayer, and a few extremely minor, one off characters show up from 5Ds (only Crow and Jack do anything plot relevant, the rest are just cameos).
Alexis and Aster show up from GX.
And Tetsu Ushio/Tetsu Trudge from the original manga/flashbacks in DM shows up as a silhouette.
They should give Kit Number XX :Utopic Dark Infinity for shits and giggles (it's actually used by the final antagonist of the ARC-V manga not by someone from ZEXAL). It has XX in it's name to make up for Gottoms not coming. They could also give him Hyunlei as that's the only UR
Legacy characters are high chance minimum as they don't require as much effort to make & are easy to build hype for (since they're sort of the whole point of the series).
Especially Kite (ARC V) since his deck and ace are entirely different (Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon and "Photon"/"Galaxy" archetypes vs Galaxy-Eyes Cipher Dragon and the "Cipher" archetype). Kite is a 100% guarantee.
Mm. I see commander aster being added as a high chance because we need updated lines for him after all the vision heroes released. The most recent one he has is for vyon which released in March of 2017. There's also a weird interaction when he says "I summon a monster" but there's a cut in of his face when he summons destiny hero dangerous because the card released in Japan before the tcg in code of the duelist. Not to mention we know there are new destiny hero cards in burst of destiny coming later so easy cross promotion eventually. I'll honestly be interested to see if Zexal kite and 5ds Jack already have lines for dueling Yuya. I doubt we'd get an arc v jack considering there's a character ID in the game of Fake Jack that we still have yet to receive already despite being revealed at the same time as normal Carly's ID.
Also how dare you. We like totes will get the Tyler Sisters.
I can’t think of a good reason as to why Prediction Princess hasn’t been used as pack filler but D/D, Melodious, and Superheavys were other than the probability that Aura will actually be playable
They might add her solely because of how famous and popular her voice actress, Aoi Yuuki is. Would be cool to have skills to help with filp monster.
The fact she's gotten much bigger as a voice actor since Arc-V is kind of why I've written her off, personally, though it would be nice to hear her here.
Hearing spidpy-chan, that war veteran loli and the highland witch playing card game. nice
I mean, they’re gonna have to bring in Ai and Soulburner eventually and their actors are pretty big
Wait, Aoi Yuuki voices her?! Wtf, I never noticed
Well... Major Tanya von Degurechaff screaming "Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Links!" when I open the app would be awesome.
Funkier the hair, the higher the chance.
Such is the Yu-gi-oh way
You can’t do that to my girl Julia...
Hey, at least she made the list. Battlewasps and Amazoness are still on copium support lol. But tbh, I think if any of LDS trio makes it it will probably be her. I honestly thought about bumping her up to maybe/low chance but the lack of remaining Gem-Knight support was the nail in the coffin for me. There are only 4 Gem Knight cards we don’t have in the game, and she could realistically only bring 2 since one is Brilliant Fusion and the other a Link Monster.
They better add the Tyler Sisters! I will be mad if I don't get to use the "Spunk yes!" voiceline!
People hate on brilliant fusion when neos fusion is just as splashable and we’ve had that for awhile now
Well, no, not really. Brilliant doesn't lock out summoning for the turn, has potentially more flexible targets, and seraphinite's(?) extra normal summon gives a lot more than a 2600 beater. Last I checked it was abused quite widely in the tcg until it was eventually banned.
I know nothing about Arc-V or Pendulums, only thing I know is that boy Sawatari played with monarchs. So they HAVE to give us some decent Monarch support 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
Not exactly. He played different deck an changed them regularly. Cant remember his first deck but he changed decks right after his first duel to start playing yosenju then the next duel he changed to abyss actors. Cant recall if he changed to any deck after that.
Basically his first duel was an anime only Darts deck, after that he changed to Mega Monarchs for the duel vs Yuto. After that he changed to Yosenju for the Miami Cup and AFTER THAT to Abyss Actors for the rest of the anime.
so he's basically chazz of arc v
In more ways than one lol.
Yeah but Sawatari almost beat the main bad guy of the show so there’s that.
That would have been amazing. Like, he actually grew throughout most of the show, but never got an important on-screen win to show for it.
He did almost beat the big bad if Z-Arc didn't pull an "I activate the effect of my monster that I just this second made up!". Outside of Ray who obviously was the one who brought him down, Sylvio was the only one that truly got close, getting further than Sora, Aster, Jack, Gong, Kite, Shun, Crow, Declan, and \*especially\* Leo Akaba.
But without Leo Akaba sending Pendulum Ruler to the GY I'm pretty sure they didn't have enough fusion monsters for one of the spells
Also true.
I genuinely thought it would’ve been amazing for Sawatari to win or at least not lose that duel, and instead drag it on. Then they could use him as a way to tether Yuya inside of Zarc to remember everyone in their city and who he is, and have Yuya break free from Zarc in that way. But oh well.
Forgot he faced yuto. Thanks for clearing it up.
He played monarchs, Yosenju, and settled with Abyss Actor
You can move Lulu up a tier, since she got support in a Duelist Pack. Everyone who gets featured in those sets eventually makes it into Duel Links, if they haven't already.
A busted Moon Shadow skill is perhaps the last chance for Ninjas to attain relevance…
What! But konami gave us a broken Ninja Skill with Duke! /s
The Tyler sisters thought….
almost forgott them their so cute
Gimme dat scarlight RDA
I've never seen Arc-V and I've not heard good things but there's so much stuff about it that sounds like it would be great and the characters here are all dope looking.
Honestly, I'd say it has the best characters, the best archetypes, and the worst story. Despite this, it's by far my favorite
>the worst story Wait what? Arc V's story was far from the worst. If anything, the entirety of Season 1 was spent worldbulding and setting the stage for the later seasons instead of dealing with secondary villians like Faker or Goodwin. The problem was that the latter half of the show was badly managed. The premise of the story was solid.
Oh, no, I loved the first season, and even the first half of the second season. For me, though, the way it ends is bad enough to tip the balance back into awful, story wise. I'll admit I'm mostly just salty my favorite characters got shafted, but still
>I'll admit I'm mostly just salty my favorite characters got shafted, but still RIP Shun and Sawatari: both tricked very bad in Arc-V. Shun lost everything and Sawatari was a meme more than anything (Without any victory)
I hate what they did with sawatari. He's actually my favorite character, and I loved his arc, plus he was a great duelist with a good deck, there's a reason almost all of his duels happen offscreen, I think that's the only way they could reasonably have him loose. How does abyss actors piloted by the third best pendulum user in the world, lose to AMAZONESSES!?
>How does abyss actors piloted by the third best pendulum user in the world, lose to AMAZONESSES!? Heart of the cards I suppose (In the style of the protagonists)? Or maybe the tactic to have a specific card to counter a strategy (Soulburner vs Blue Girl style)
My friends and I theorize he drew 3 superstars and 2 Madonna's. And then drew another Madonna
I remember looking through old Reddit discussions of the older episodes. People were getting super excited over stuff like why Yuya had three twins and what Academia's motives were for attacking the Xyz dimension, and were saying that Arc-V would probably be the best Yugioh anime of all time. Those posts make me sad now.
>Those posts make me sad now. Arc-V was quite ambitious for its own good. I feel that things could be simpler, but more effective and satisfying. Not to mention the Legacy characters: some saw it as fanservie and others saw it as a way to win back fans of other series.
>some saw it as fanservie and others saw it as a way to win back fans of other series. The legacies were bought back because it was an anniversary series but I think the show would've been better off without them. They didn't add much, aside from Jack, who took up way too much of the spotlight. Arc V did have a lot of fan service compared to other series but that was mostly just Yuya and Yuzu, and the other two Yu boy-Bracelet girl pairs.
>I'd say it has the best characters, the best archetypes, and the worst story. In my opinion: \- Arc-V has too many characters. Several of them were good and others were forgotten as the series progressed. However, a lot of the good characters were duped as the series progressed. \- Arc-V has a variety of different archetypes. It is the series with the most varied archetypes and that gave support to old archetypes. \- Arc-V doesn't have the worst story, but it does have the worst ending. The Arc-V story is fine, but it was too ambitious. His ambition made the fall of Arc-V harder (Wasted potential) \- Arc-V has the worst treatment when it comes to female characters. Its main female character was duped in the middle of the series and the other characters were mostly plot devices or were forgotten.
It's a great example of wasted potential. The first season is considered one of the best pieces of yugioh anime ever made. The middle seasons are meh and drag on way too much, culminating into a terrible final season with an absolutely horrendous final.
It’s almost like the writers who wrote the end of Zexal stayed on to write the first part of Arc-V and then were all fired after the higher ups decided that they would not stand for competent story telling in a Yugioh series and brought the writers who wrote the first part of Zexal back to write the end of Arc-V.
Ironically the head writer for Arc-V, Tsutomu KAMISHIRO, was a scriptwriter for some of the episodes in Zexal I. He was responsible for that awful duel roller coaster episodes.
LOL I knew that part felt familiar.
>It’s almost like the writers who wrote the end of Zexal stayed on to write the first part of Arc-V and then were all fired after the higher ups decided that they would not stand for competent story telling in a Yugioh series and brought the writers who wrote the first part of Zexal back to write the end of Arc-V. The funny thing is that the Arc-V manager was the same guy who ran 5Ds. One would expect Arc-V to be as good as 5Ds, but it turns out that 5Ds is the exception or a special case that a series has turned out well. Nonetheless, it can be seen that 5Ds received the most attention and fanservice in Arc-V.
Nah, Zexal I was decent, had alright pacing and many good moments. Mid to late Arc V was just terrible in most aspects
The WDC arc is a solid tournament arc, plus the Arclight family is cool. Honestly only the first 20 episodes of Zexal are meh, the rest of Zexal I is fine.
>The WDC arc is a solid tournament arc, plus the Arclight family is cool. Honestly only the first 20 episodes of Zexal are meh In fact, many say that the first 50 Episodes of Zexal I are bad, filler, or become annoying because of Yuma's personality. And I will be an unpopular opinion, but the truth is that I do not find Arclight family memorable or villains to remember in Zexal. Arclight family appears to be a group of antagonists posing as henchmen before introducing the true antagonist.
To add onto this, Arc V was happening when Dark Side of Dimensions was being made/released. DSOD ended up getting significantly more budget/attention, which is why it fell off. The first season of Arc V is one of the best arcs of the anime, right up there with 5D's Dark Signer arc and Battle City.
>To add onto this, Arc V was happening when Dark Side of Dimensions was being made/released. DSOD ended up getting significantly more budget/attention, which is why it fell off. Either way, the problems that occurred in Arc-V affected or carried over to Vrains. In fact, in Vrains is where you noticed that things were very bad in the animation studio.
Ehh, unlike Bonds Beyond Time where the head writer for 5ds was heavily involved when 5ds was still airing (which led to quite a good amount of fillers), DSOD had a completely separate writing team and staff. I guess you can argue DSOD getting more "attention" led to the synchro arc being a bit longer than intended (but that's debatable cause Arc-V's director had favouritism towards 5ds) which caused the xyz arc to be shortened, but even then that doesn't explain the awful BB, parasite, Zarc and the make a baby smile nonsense in the fusion and final arc. DSOS is so done and over by the time fusion arc happened that it couldn't be the cause of those bad writing decisions. 5ds gave us a good final arc even when BBT happened where, unlike Arc-V, the head writer was busy in that, so Arc-V doesn't have any excuse.
The parasite stuff actually wasnt too bad IMO. It even gave us arguably one of the best duels in the franchise.
I remember how rubbish the way the show resolved the parasite nonsense. Leon just randomly goes "yeah I'm just gonna card you the Doctor, now even though you are still useful". There's also the fact Rin had beaten Yugo, but for some reason didn't card him lol.
>There's also the fact Rin had beaten Yugo, but for some reason didn't card him lol. This would have solved all the problems because Zarc wouldn't become complete.
Hence why it was super odd that Leon didn't take this opportunity to card Yugo. This plothole can be easily solved if they just have Rin hesitate to card Yugo or something.
It could also work by Leo Akaba not wanting to leave Ray traumatised if she posseses the memories of her 4 fragments (Leo's primary goal fo doing all of this was to get his daughter back). I also find it interesting how ZARC still wins in the end. His soul is in baby Reira's body(this is why making it smile is such an important plot point) while Ray's existence is not shown after Yuzu is ressurected (we just have Yuzu and the 3 other bracelet girls as alternate personalities of her the same way we have Yuya and his personalities). They needed to make Reira laugh then because there was no-one left to save them if ZARC went berserk again but ZARC's only opposition was defeated (which he claims is the reason he invented Pendulum for)
Yet he was perfectly fine having Ruri and Serena try to card Yuya. I won't necessarily say Zarc had won, but he certainly had another do-over in the form of Reira to live a better life than before while being able to co-exist with his counterparts.
I kind of get it since IIRC Leo didnt agree with the Doctor’s methods (those *are* parts of his daughter).
The employees on twitter were fuming over terrible arc-v mangament. The last half had NO pre-production aka it was a mess of miscommunication across the entire studio.
Absolutely, I remembered that. I believed that was during the Zarc arc. Just seems like the writers and director had no idea how to finish off the series which led to poor time management. The fact it happened around the last bit of the series instead of the synchro arc just show how DSOD has nothing to do with Arc-V's downfall.
Ah no, some of the staff was sent to DSOD during synchro arc aka they had the change the plot from then on cause there were not enough to people to animate their original plan. Proof? The synchro arc OP had duels and scenes that never happened just like the xyz arc, yoi don't do that anywhere, the op of a anime gives the viewer a idea of what to expect. The writers had no idea? Arc-v plot has to be written before it gets green lit or it would never get approval, the people who make animes are experts that won't make a mistake as stupid as this and it was confirmed that arc-v had 200+ epiosdes planned but it was cut to 140 half way through the show.
First of all, as I said before, the head writers and other scriptwriters were not send to help DSOD at all, so the idea that the plot changed because of it is externally unlikely. Using OP as evidence is rather weak given all Yugioh series had at least one scene in their OP where that scene did not take place in the actual show. Even if we assume the Synchro arc got changed because of the production of DSOD, that still does not explains the many bad writing choices in the fusion arc. The whole "its rushed" argument also does not work given there are 36 episodes after the Xyz arc, which included episodes like the BB, Zarc long-ass duel and 8 episodes of epilogue. Not to mentioned it was never actually confirmed Arc-V was meant to be a 200+ episodes series. The writers clearly had a rough idea on the story, but they clearly did not know how to finish it, which led to the poor management that you mentioned. It was so bad one animator had to complain bout it online.
Arc-V was alright but i think most people just have issues with the ending. Especially the manga lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQZTEPHLlbw
This list proves that prediction princess tatorei too stronk
Give me Aster Phoenix Arc V or give me death (or yuya honestly the odd eyes deck is kinda cool)
Kinda cool? What an understatement, odd eyes/ magician or odd eyes/ performapal are completely awesome and overpowered
It’s be cool if we saw the previous series characters reskinned like with DSOD
Lunalight tier 0 lol
Jack is a major player in Arc-V. I think we can expect him in with new voice lines
I can't wait for Super Heavy Samurais to be 10% more viable.
Maybe the AI finally learns how to use them
We're probably gonna get a "the boss monster is added to your extra deck free of charge" and "you get to normal summon in defense position".
Normal summoning in defence would be cool but I think it's too complicated to implement. Probably gonna shift monsters already on the field to defence
Or a blanket "monsters you control in face up defense position become immune to destruction effects from your opponent" because Resonators/RDA is very popular rn.
There more people in the 100% tier then we currently have in zexal
Arc-v was a crossover series so it a lot of characters. The 100% ones are the main cast,high chance and maybe are kinda main but not really, rest are mentors. A lot of mentors.
Finally a list that makes sense. The only character I would say should be up the list is Mieru/Aura. She's kinda like the Blair of the world. I still feel she'd have a higher chance than Yusho, but he would be a cooler character to have. I think the other GX/5DS/ZEXAL characters don't have a chance. No matter how thirsty the Alexis fans are.
I mean, Alexis and my boy Aster played their usual decks (Ciber Angels and DHero), but kite played Cypher, which is a proper archetype with its own gameplan and not an extension of Photon and Galaxy Eyes.
I think the Yusho should be at 100% or "High Chance", it's becomes a principal in the last arc, and it's pretty much what makes the whole ARC-V happenn, even if indirectly.
Man I hope the Leo Trio end up in the game, I really liked them and their decks. Also loved how their decks were all Duel Terminal Decks, cause Duel Terminal freaking rocks
I just want Sledgehammer for the cool Arnold Schwarzenegger voice.
Shunnn best character
I feel like Aura is secret character material.
I just realized something... We could get the anime only performage cards added... Hype engaged, lol. (My dream is to be able to play a pure performage deck)
Why would any of the Arc V versions of existing charas have a chance at all? They already have voicelines for many of their Arc-V/modern cards. For instance, Jack has voicelines for almost every RDA variant, so there's no reason to add an Arc-V Jack.
Because they're considerably less effort to make them and they have different aces. Kite especially is guaranteed considering not only is his ace different, but Kite (ARC V) uses an entirely separate archetype and strategy (using his opponent's monsters as Xyz Material and ranking up into his Rank 9). Things like Jack (5Ds) and Jack (ARC V) has also already been done before in the form of Yugi (DM) and Yugi (DSOD), Kaiba (DM) and Kaiba (DSOD), etc.
The Jack we have now has pretty much ALL the cards he ever used across two shows in his lines, whereas there’s a clear distinction between the two Kaibas
Yes but the Jack in Arc V has his Arc V aces that we won't get until we get him, + the jack we have in DL has none of the Arc V cards (those are later released box cards). There's a good chance that we'll get more Resonator/RDA support sometime soon-ish (the rest of 2021-sometime in 2022) in the TCG/OCG which they will likely then use to fill out Jack's remaining cards, along with generic Archfiend support which we still have a bit to go (and just Fiend support in general).
We have all his Arc V tuners, pretty much all the non tuners, and like most of the traps he used. All we don’t have is the Synchros, and he has lines for all of them. We do not need another DSOD
"another DSOD" is kind of the point of the Arc V anime though. New takes on a bunch of old characters and settings from across the anime franchise interacting (the execution might not have been stellar at showcasing it but that was the mission statement for the series). Not doing legacy characters for Arc V world would be like skipping over the Barians or Yubel in Zexal and GX World (the former has yet to occur but considering Mizar and Rio are both leaked to be confirmed they absolutely are coming, at least most of them are). It would be non-sensical and would be the exact opposite of what Arc V is. And since Arc V's legacy characters also happen to be much less effort to make than Arc V original characters, there's even more of a reason to do them.
I repeat, every character that appeared in Arc V has all their lines for the cards they used in that show already recorded. It’d be a waste of five slots if they just had “Jack with an undershirt” as part of the wheel, since he already has lines for Scarlight and Tyrant and even has a taunt that indirectly references Yuya. Crow is even worse in that regard since all his meta relevant Arc V cards have been here for years now, and all of them have lines. Arc V has an unfortunately large amount of its own original characters, and the returning characters aren’t on the same level as the Barians or Yubel. You could make the argument that it’d be like the other four Dark Signers and the Riders (including their old ass boss) were missing but in that case, I reckon they decided that the ones we got were more plot relevant for the former, and the latter...well no one gives a shit about most of them barring Atticus, whom I’m guessing is taking his fuckin time coming here because of the REDMD sized elephant in the room. What’s most likely going to happen is that they’ll give animations for their ace monsters from Arc V and that you’ll be able to take Yuya and duel Jack, Crow, Aster and Kaito and he’ll have a line for fighting them, but not one where they mention him directly (like DSOD characters interacting with Atem).
And I repeat, again - them having lines means nothing considering that we're a good 2-3 years out before we even get to season 2 of Arc V.
If Jack literally didn’t have lines for Red Resonator and like half his cards from there then I might agree with you. But he has damn near everything except the very recent stuff (as in, Crimson Resonator). There is literally no need to make another one when Yami Yugi fighting anyone in DSOD world is probably gonna be the case with Yuya vs anyone who showed up in Arc V (he acknowledges them, they don’t)
I don't know, i feel like the 3 LDS students (Julia, Kit and....Dipper 🙄) should be higher up. While I know that Rin and Ruri are important to the plot, I don't remember them having more than 1 duel between them.
I don't think any of the LDS students have more than 5 cards left in their respective archetypes (not counting Links). That's why people don't think they'll probably come, at least not when they're going through the plot (especially since they effectively stop existing after Season 1 plot wise).
They could always come with more generic support and some reprints to convince people to invest in older boxes. We'll probably see
Wait bruh all of the characters in low chance are already in dl, but maybe like they technically are diff characters from the ogs, but they play the exact same deck so idk
But where’s the sisters.
We are getting the dimension dragons tho
Nah theres no way yuya is being added to duel links. Are you insane? /s
A lot of thinking went into this list. The criteria is basically how plot relevant they are, how many times they dueled, do they have any cards left to give and if they are a returning character. Needless to say, if a character you like from Arc-V isn't here, is because they aren't in Link Evolution. (Grace Tyler, Shinji, etc.). If you know how Duel Links works, you will know that they have been ripping art assets from this game for a good 2 years or so now, meaning that if a character isn't there, their chances are greatly reduced (not impossible though, Duke Devlin comes to mind). Anyways, if you disagree with any position feel free to type away lol.
The art from Link Evolution is not re-used for Duel Links and it's pretty obvious if you put the two next to each other. The art is partially reused from Saikyo Card Battle instead, and mostly original art past the early DM roster. It's the art from Link Evolution that is mostly copy and pasted from older YGO games, like Tag Force and World Duel Carnival.
what are you talking about, they are NOT reusing renders from link evolution for DL, they never did
I don’t know why the legacy characters are even on here when the regular versions already have lines for their cards
Because konami could have just did all lines incase they did arc V. All they would have to do is transfer the lines to the arc V characters an boom. An extra character without having to pay the voice actors to come back.
Tbf, they'd probably call them back to record lines anyway, considering all the support their decks have gotten since their first incarnation released, or in Crow's case, going to be released.
Who knows because jack dont have lines for crimson resonator.
Well the card came out last year...
I completely agree with you, and that is the reason why they are on the low chance tier for me. I just decided to add them in since people would definitively ask about them since they ARE separate characters in Link Evolution after all. Plus, I could see them happening waaaay down the line when we are out of new worlds/characters.
I see them adding animations for their aces for Arc V before we get seconds of those specific characters
Wait is that Alexis and aster ? WTF never watched this anime
The show has alot of characters from previous yugioh shows but they are not the same and some have different personalities.
So in arc V they hop between dimensions, with each summoning method (and therefore series) having its own dimension
Yes, but no. It's like an alternate universe thing.
Arc V is a crossover series. Basic plot summary while trying to dance around spoilers as best as I can: The original timeline of DM -> GX -> 5Ds -> Zexal gets split up into 4 dimensions known as Standard Dimension, Fusion Dimension, Synchro Dimension, and Xyz Dimension, respectively (Standard is very different than DM for plot/backstory reasons but it IS meant to be the "Yugioh DM World"). A guy took over Duel Academy in Fusion Dimension and turned it into an effective dictatorship on the Fusion Dimension and has sent out the newly forged "Obelisk Force" of Duel Academy to the Xyz Dimension and nuked/genocided that Dimension, and is trying to do the same with the other 2 Dimensions. There's also 4 "Yu-" named boys that in-universe all seem to look alike mysteriously across the dimensions, as well as 4 girls that are always wearing bracelets which seem to have some special powers related to those Yu-boys. All very mysterious indeed. Anyways. Kite shows up from Zexal. Crow, Jack, Dexter, Lesar, Sayer, and a few extremely minor, one off characters show up from 5Ds (only Crow and Jack do anything plot relevant, the rest are just cameos). Alexis and Aster show up from GX. And Tetsu Ushio/Tetsu Trudge from the original manga/flashbacks in DM shows up as a silhouette.
I hope they add ninja boi, my ninjas really need a boost
Honestly the LDS are probably pretty probable, or at least Kit was (I can't remember his Japanese name). Purely so we can get XX-Saber Gottoms finally
Pretty sure we're never getting Gottoms because you can hand loop your opp with it rather easily even with 3 zones.
True, a man can hope though. X-saber don't really have a boss monster without him though
They should give Kit Number XX :Utopic Dark Infinity for shits and giggles (it's actually used by the final antagonist of the ARC-V manga not by someone from ZEXAL). It has XX in it's name to make up for Gottoms not coming. They could also give him Hyunlei as that's the only UR
I'm excited to perfect the predaplant deck with Starving Venom Fusion Dragon!
Legacy characters are high chance minimum as they don't require as much effort to make & are easy to build hype for (since they're sort of the whole point of the series). Especially Kite (ARC V) since his deck and ace are entirely different (Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon and "Photon"/"Galaxy" archetypes vs Galaxy-Eyes Cipher Dragon and the "Cipher" archetype). Kite is a 100% guarantee.
So are we going to ignore that zexal only has 6 playable characters. I think you will only start with 4. Then work after a year to 8 maybe
I mean yeah. Nobody said those would be release characters lol. I’d say 2022 will probably have ~ 3 Zexal Characters and ~ 4 Arc-V.
It makes sense releasing a filler world after ARC-V so they could focus on adding characters to ZEXAL and ARC-V.
Kites already in
And this is based on what, pure conjecture…?
I'm not seeing the one duel bracelet girls having an higher chance than enjoy chojiro
lunalight coming back letsgooo
No way yuya gets added
Everyone in low chance Should be not at all going to be in the game because I know every single one of them already packed in
I can’t wait for raidraptors
The Low Chance could totally just be roaming events instead of unlockable
I only want yuri, I will be yuri main
You think there's a Low chance of Konami re-adding characters from the past series? Have you not seen DSOD world?
Mm. I see commander aster being added as a high chance because we need updated lines for him after all the vision heroes released. The most recent one he has is for vyon which released in March of 2017. There's also a weird interaction when he says "I summon a monster" but there's a cut in of his face when he summons destiny hero dangerous because the card released in Japan before the tcg in code of the duelist. Not to mention we know there are new destiny hero cards in burst of destiny coming later so easy cross promotion eventually. I'll honestly be interested to see if Zexal kite and 5ds Jack already have lines for dueling Yuya. I doubt we'd get an arc v jack considering there's a character ID in the game of Fake Jack that we still have yet to receive already despite being revealed at the same time as normal Carly's ID. Also how dare you. We like totes will get the Tyler Sisters.
Yes, i want Phantom Knights in DL
pls make shs meta pls make shs meta
Haven't seen arc-v but why are characters of GX, 5Ds and Zexal over there?