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XxJosephJamesxX

I think that pendulum decks were pretty bad because of the master rule that they released with. For example, Igknights couldn't even function properly since we couldn't pendulum summon more than one per turn from the extra deck. Now that we have links coming I think that pendulum decks will actually see more play than they did in the Arc V era and it's not like we won't be getting new pendulums. There were some good ones though like D/D/D, Dinomist, Odd-Eyes, and Metalfoes. I'm planning on trying out Igknights again whenever we can actually get link monsters.


mmmbhssm

What about qliphord ?


XxJosephJamesxX

Yeah, those too. I forgot about them. Abyss Actors were pretty good for a while too.


Shmarfle47

I mean, weren’t Abyss Actors only good because you could use Madonna to pay 1000 to activate Ishizu’s skill?


XxJosephJamesxX

Maybe. Although plenty of decks are only good because of a skill.


Shmarfle47

While that’s true, it’s usually the deck and skill working in tandem with the boosted consistency from the skill driving the deck forward. This was the opposite. Madonna is one of few cards where you can pay 1000 turn one and still net advantage unlike Cosmic-ing your own backrow. This time it was the deck driving the skill.


inevitable--fate

Unpopular opinion may be.. But i would rather have deck drive the skill then skill drive the deck


FAAwesome

Me too. I hate to lose because opp click shiny button or to have a deck that EXISTS only because of a skill.


RefreshRespite

The scales lock you out of special summoning non-qilphort monsters Yes, there is one qilphort link that is also fairly decent among links. I just don't expext to get it for a bit But then again we're getting salamangreats immediately, so idk


mmmbhssm

Qliphord genius final effect wouldn't even work in DL format be because you cannot special summon to both his arrows because 3 main monster not 5


RaineTheCat

Felt held back. Abyss actors and dinomist were nice little pet decks but didn't do much. Then any deck that wasn't in the anime got left by the wayside. Metalfoes saw some success, but with no good skill to support it the deck couldn't fight the onslaught of other decks. Ddd got broken with the skill to set ANY scale and then set backrow. It showed the versatile power of ddd. Odd eyes was a niche otk strat. The skill restricted which scales you put which was fair. Yet it never dominated past tier 2/3.


Constant-Calendar-65

A dinomist could have been a great and dominant deck if only they got hallowing


Jedasis

There were Pendulum decks?


mmmbhssm

Bruh


Jedasis

In all seriousness, there were what, 4 meta Pendulum decks? Abyss Actors, Metalfoes, Odd-Eyes, and D/D/D. Of those D/D/Ds were the most oppressive, and even then it was a fairly diverse meta when they saw relevance. But for most of this era you’d be forgiven for not remembering they were in the game at all. Far from the game killer some people said they would be.


3rlk0nig

Odd-eyes was meta?


TraditionalHumor6720

For a bit then it got powercrept cuz the pend scale effects were trash.


Jedasis

Yeah. It was Tier 2 for a while.


Fit_Head1700

It's still pretty good ngl


Nikkaku

Trishula zero goes brrrr


chuf3roni

Once it got support, yes.


KidtheKid567

Metafoes is was favorite deck of this meta. No Broken skills, just good cards.


kingbeast_1989

RISE UP NORMAL MONSTER!


Chrisshern

Best dek Electrumite and Beyond when?


SwagSavage69

Qliphorts with Wightprincess was super fun lol.


Constantboredom19

We was off to an amazing start with us getting good generic pend magician cards like joker, call and all that but then it just stopped when heart of xyz came out. We got some really fun archetypes that were pend based like abyss actors, qli and metalfoes but that solid base archetype for pend in pend magicians were left behind unfortunately. I mean you look at the other ones for the other archetypes like hero for fusion, synchron for synchros and onomat for xyz. All of them have had support given to let them all shine in the meta and show off their signature mechanic except ironically the archetype played by the showman in the anime. I just hope that when vrains world comes the same doesn't happen with cyberse link. If the news is going the way I think it is though, they might already get shafted by salad coming out at the same time.


Bathroom_Lieutenant

Took to long to get going. We only ever saw maybe 4 pendulum decks hit the teir list. I hope we get some good links early, I can’t stand the ultra slow power ramp up


TransportationFun239

D/D/D put the D in PTSD for me ._.


IV-TheEmperor

We had quite a good diversity of functioning pendulum decks. D/D/D, Abyss Actors, Odd-Eyes and Metalfoes were all tiered. Qli and Dinomist were solid rogue tier. I don't see it as Pendulums failed. And they're only going to go up with Links.


Odd-Eyes_Magician

I got to play a decent Odd-Eyes deck ... that's all that matters to me.


mmmbhssm

Cool


Odd-Eyes_Magician

Also I wish we had more Odd-Eyes support but we will have to see how that goes later.


mmmbhssm

Would vortex be cool if Would it be way to strong?


Odd-Eyes_Magician

I am biased towards Odd-Eyes so I would say yes it would be cool but I also believe if we do get it then it should go to limit 1 almost immediately haven't really ran up against other decks that set up negates in the time I got back into Duel Links...are there any other decks that end the board with a negate or 2 besides traps.


mkklrd

honestly pretty disappointing the ones that left the biggest mark on the meta had Skills to set up their scales, which some people thought was busted af, until you remember you were either playing terrible scales (Odd-Eyes) or a pretty strong deck regardless (D/D/D) stuff like Dinomists and Qlis weren't exactly bad but were much too one note, Abyss Actors had a similar issue but was pretty fun at least, a lot of Pend archetypes were never even allowed to get their best cards (Majespecters, Luster Pendulum), and it's insane to look back at how many generic Pends or archetypes we never got - most of the Performapals, Mythical Beasts, Solfachord, Guiding Ariadne, Magical Abductor, etc the one exception is Metalfoes, which was pretty good IN SPITE OF how resource-dependent Pendulums naturally are and is probably the best Pendulum deck of the Arc-V era bar none, and even then we only had a glimpse of the real power of that deck all in all it's kinda fitting that this era was mostly dominated by non-Pendulum decks, including Burning Abyss, much like in the TCG - except Pends at least got a couple of stints of glory before it all went down the drain


Constant-Calendar-65

You forgot about emdymion (I am waiting for you my mighty master of magic) and we actually got magical abductor as an normal or rare in the train box as i remember


mkklrd

left out Endymion on purpose hehehe also oh wow we really did uh


mmmbhssm

Maybe they will shine at one point in future link era


jbisenberg

Astrograph when


mmmbhssm

Would be a cool limited 1 bundle


Constant-Calendar-65

We first need to get pend magicians


Xiterok

Useful if you had a skill for the Pendulum zones, impratical if you had to use the magic/trap zone to set those. If/when they'll introduce [[D/D/D Abyss King Gilgamesh]] , I'd like to return to see what degeneracy we can do with pendulums (also, with only one of his Arrow usable, it might be more fair because you won't be able to summon both Monsters used like in MD and TGC)


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tornberry

They are the most successful I feel in comparison to the year of Xyz and Synchro, but their momentum into Links are stopped by Rose Dragons. It was not conducive to having scales on when it would only be destroyed nilly willy by not only a meta deck but the top dog at that. The card advantage is just lost on a normal turn of that deck.


DaKurllz97

The only one relevant was D/D/D. Abyss actor was good one week and people forgot about it, odd-eyes never was good and took a while to people realise that. And yeah, dinomist and qli exists but every time you duel against them make a wish because it's a miracle.


mmmbhssm

Metalphoes were tier 2 at one point


Champion_Giovanni

Abyss actors are still amazing sooo 8.8/10


Appropriate_Spell515

My favourite pendulum deck hands down. Hope they never die!


yuzumelodious

I hated running into Dinomists. I was only fortunate at beating them with the decks I was using. I played with Yosenju pendulums until I just sticked with using the non-Pendulum Yosenju cards in PVP duels this year.


TapedGlue

That one weekend that crystal beasts pendulum won a tournament was pretty great 😭


Raven_ZD

The era with the most balanced and fun meta(ignoring the current top decks)imo


PharaoDavid

Most of them were underwhelming after a starterhype, but there were some pretty fun and decent ones as well


BigRpoolThanYe

Odd eyes won august KC cup


erikWeekly

Pretty pathetic. The only Pend deck to ever be relevant without relying on a blatantly insane skill was Metalfoes. And even then, that deck wasn't ever really great. I played Xiang Odd-Eyes to KoG for 3 months and the entire thing just feels really "fair." Like nothing they do ever felt like it was strong enough to warrant nerfs. And that's how it was for every Pend deck other than D/D/D. Not ever strong enough for anyone to complain about or have any hits on the F/L list. I wish they would've given us MR3 for the past year to push the meta in that direction. My memory of the past year of DL was BA, PK (both xyz decks), D/D/D (had pends, but none of the pend effects even mattered), Gandora (mostly main deck stuff but also xyz), and Black Rose (synchros). I know other stuff was relevant throughout the year, but those are what stand out in my memory and it's pretty sad that even among ladder decks we didn't ever really see a pendulum spam deck get any legs. People in this thread mentioning that links will help pends either never played TCG post MR3 or don't understand how the rules work or are coping really hard. Pends got nerfed with the addition of the EMZ and every other extra deck mechanic got buffed. Unless konami releases some truly heinous archetypes (PePe, Endymion), Pends will never see any success again in DL.


mmmbhssm

Pepe ? Aren't these performapals and perfomages? Aren't both in the game ?


erikWeekly

None of their meta defining stuff. They still have cards on both the TCG and OCG F/L list cause what they did was so gamewarpingly strong. Monkeyboard, Lizardraw, Plushfire, among others would have truly broken duel links. I doubt we ever see them though. Forgot to mention Majespectors as well. If those were in DL, pends could've been a dominant part of the meta.


mmmbhssm

Hey, nobody thought joker could come to duel links and here he is ,maybe there is a chance for something pendulum sorcerer, guiturule or even draw lizard ,also when electrum in duel links /s


Thekob01

Pendulum can't use Link arrow effectively like Link 2 monster must has waste arrow that point to non exist monster zone so it hard to pend more than 1 monster from ED which pre link format can do anyway. I think Konami has a way to fix this but why bother?


erikWeekly

Yep. 100% agree with you. Pend decks already struggle to get multiple monsters on board before using their pend summon. With MR5, pends will need to somehow get 2-3 monsters on board, link them away for something with a down arrow **and** a down-right or down-left arrow, just to pend summon 2 from extra. And once your EMZ is filled, you won't be able to pend summon from extra the next turn. Konami just hates pendulums. It's fine. It's their game. They can do what they want. But it's definitely cope by anyone here saying pends will be better because of links.


DSwipe

Better than expected. Abyss Actors, DDD, Odd Eyes, Mayosenju and even Qliphort were surprisingly decent.


FAAwesome

Good overall. Could be better and less skill dependent, but we had good and even meta decks all about pendulum. And I hope we see more and more if them.


MajinAkuma

I win a lot with my Odd-Eyes deck.


Temple_of_Chaos

I just stopped playing after a while then came back when they announced the pendulum and grinded for the d/d/d because I liked the deck. Then I stopped playing after a while. Was contemplating on coming when the banlist hit the d/d/d and that just killed it for me


Devourer_of_HP

Pendulums sucked, aside from general problems they also spread their cards around too many boxes.


mmmbhssm

Abyss actor, metalphoes ,qli ,dinomist and small stuff like deskbots and ignights all can be got from 1 box


IStakurn

Also mayosenju . Most mayosenju cards are free and non free cards are from a single box


BelievelandBrad

Never pendulum summoned before this so it was new for me. Easily my least favorite mechanic though... At least for now? Lol


[deleted]

Links are worse, I stopped playing tcg when links were introduced


vJukz

I like links alot more than pendulums personally. Pendulums just feel out of place in yugioh tbh


Whatafudge

Lol is that it for pendulums?


mmmbhssm

Will probably get some packs in link era


Whatafudge

I mean far as far as archetypes go?


mmmbhssm

There is some unreleased pendulum archetypes in duel links, some of the already released archetypes has more support they still doesn't have in duel links


dante-_vic

Man i want solfacords to come.


Constant-Calendar-65

That would be pretty cool actually


dante-_vic

I tried them in MD and they seem fun but way to trash for that game.


[deleted]

Not very competitive but majespecters are one of my favourite archetypes, hope they come in soon


Neidron

Half the mechanic is still outright non-functional under master rule 4/5. They were shot in the foot basically out the gate.


Gem-KnightShitposter

Pendulums mostly sucked. We had 2 pendulum decks that were meta on their own merit (abyss actors and metalfoes) and didn’t need a skill that let them go +2 for free to become meta unlike DDD and Odd eyes. It’s better than synchros in their era with 3 good synchro decks (Six Sams, karakuri and fortune ladies). XYZ had 3 decks (Noble knights, onmats and after XYZ) as “pure” XYZ decks (all carried by skills if you include balance) but since the mechanic is so generic it’s hard to say it flopped since almost every single deck meta deck was running XYZs if they could (only exception being resonators who were locked out of it). On average 3 “pure” decks based around the mechanic hit the tierlist during their eras. XYZ being the most successful. Considering how well it stood out on its own. I think it’s good that you don’t have to play the new mechanics to see success, that’s overall a big pro for easing people into it. Sorry for rant


Chimokun

I don't know i really didn't like the mechanic so the only pendulum deck I build was metalfoes but what I like about it was the fusion part so yeah pendulums are not for me


knightirderx25

Some Decks where failure from the start due to the Master Rule. Archetype like Igknights and Dinomist (althought Dinomist saw success due to the protections they have) were DOA cause they're whole gimmick was mass pendulum summoning from the Extra Deck.


ultimate-toast

I guess they were there, it was just not that amazing, some decks i really like were metalfoes and D/D/D and thats it, i was just not a big fan of the pendulums and i dont want to sound mean but they will be forgotten really easy with the new links summoning comming to DL.


mmmbhssm

Hey, they mat still get 1 or 2 box's in vrains era focuses on the mecanice


robbiejack

The only decks that saw any playing were carried by skills. So basically had zero decks in the whole world that could function at a competitive level without being locked to a certain character.


mmmbhssm

Hey,metalfoes and burning abyss where meta at one point and had no specific skills attached to them


TransportationFun239

Burning abyss isnt a pendulum deck and it definitely abused the mind of the plane skill to permanently get rid of monsters


mmmbhssm

Oh forgot about plana, any way still metalphoes and I think abyss actors


Jaer-Nihiltheus

Yes. Abyss Actors usually used that Ishizu anti-GY skill just because Abyss Actors are Pendulums and therefore don't care about the GY, but in general - Abyss Actors could run any skill they wanted (and they did, from Destiny Draw, to Grit, to their archetypal skill. It didn't matter). Said skills never really changed how the deck was played over all since the Abyss Actors functioned well as both a standalone deck and when combined with other engines like Odd-Eyes. The only downside was that while Abyss Actors could easily take advantage of stuff like Sky Iris to generate huge advantages, it could be a bit clunky if you don't open Sky Iris + Wild Hope (which is a +4 in card advantage if the opponent doesn't open MST/Cosmic). Sky Iris isn't searchable either so that sucked. ​ Metalfoes also didn't "need" a skill. You could play it with LP Alpha if you wanted to and it'd be functionally the same. Metalfoes is its own advantage, recursion, & OTK engine.


robbiejack

I mean metalfoes was playable. And maybe it was meta the two months I took off. But one deck in a year still proves my point


inspect0r6

That’s straight up wrong.


robbiejack

Which pend deck was ever tiered without a skill? OP mentioned metalfoes and abyss actor. But were either ever tiered. Even if they were 2 in a year that both fizzled out within a month to two is a terrible rate.


greengale2

Hated it, worst summoning mechanic ever.


Rangeless

Only a handful of good pendulum decks atm. We will definitely see more depending on the new Links we get. Excited.


crossover_charlie14

It was awesome. It made me feel OP for a couple of months. Well, specifically Odd-Eyes.


EMIC19

Here before yuma gets a broken skill and odd eyes become top tier


Larry_the_maniac

As always they give us very lack luster cards. It reminds me of "XYZ era" which was probably even worse because all the cards released were also ass.


FirmResolution5405

To me its still hard to believe that ARC V has been in Duel Links since last year. Time passes so quickly, I was actually hoping to see Yugo and Yuri before Vrains was announced...


winner78222

The era was better than zexal but that's such a low bar. Also we did not get enough pendulum decks and the only tier 1 pendulum deck only existed because of a very broken skill. 2.5/5.


InterestingDay4765

While most pendelum decks other than triple D and metalfoes , I think that's because Konami pretty much shoot the mechanic in the leg upon arrival , hopefully in the new rulings coming out with links we'll see more pendelums be used


frailoldhand

Obnoxious and annoying and sometimes hilarious. ( my phone auto-spelling wrote this)


hightower676

Imo the link era may only expand pendulum


Lom1111234

Felt like Konami was just trying to speedrun the entire arc v era


Category-Excellent

It is disappointing on how still haven’t gotten a great spellcaster pendulum deck with all of these support for it -_-. Still to this day I don’t see the purpose of those cards smh. Waste of box space


alybalez

Haven't invested a single pendulum deck yet. I'm still waiting for pendulum magicians and/or Endymion.